Who's Greatest Founding Father: Adams, Jefferson, Paine, or Washington
Posted July 24th, 2008 by OctoBox
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Listen to Ron Paul above tell you who his favorite President was.
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Ben Franklin
I just love these quotes.
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I agree with Franklin
He was so major in everything political or not. I think he is the one figure that if you take him out of the equation, America does not happen the way it did.
John
For my money, it's Ben Franklin.
TJ was a highly accomplished political theorist, but Ben Franklin makes every one of his contemporaries look like also-rans. His achievements went far beyond politics.
-jcr
Ummm, Franklin was a media mogel
No one could gain power without his say so.
He lied his competition out of business.
He stole lots of ideas and technology from other countries.
He promoted himself falsely more than Don King.
Because of his ambition, he helped the founding fathers scrap off the oppressive British and international banking cartel rule...primarily I give him credit for the Colonial script. He and the other founding fathers really had a good bead on the international banking cartel.
But generally, I question his intentions. They all had ambitions and uterior motives.
Washington and Paine are my favorites. However, for inspiration, I rely on the Founding principles...not the Founding Fathers.
John Adams
While "1776" is an entertaining musical comedy, it's also historically accurate. Without Adams as the driving force, the Continental Congress would never have supported the war effort, and Washington's army would have been left to "twist slowly in the wind".
Too bad, Adams tarnished his presidency with the Alien and Sedition Acts. Less than a decade since the ratification of the Constitution and government was already trampling on it.
It's a tie
It's a tie. There would have been no Revolution were it not for Washington, the soldier. Thos. Jefferson was the brains behind the operation.
'I'm going with George
'I'm going with George Washington"
"Observe the masses,and do the opposite."
Oh snap...that's a great quote
It reminds me of Dave Ramsey's quote "Live like no one else...so later you can live like no one else."
Jefferson
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John Adams, hands down
I am not surprised at all that he chooses John Adams as the greatest. I read John Adams and I saw the movie. If you have not read it, you absolutely must. He was the real deal. The others added a lot, of course, and had their special gifts but he was true and always did the right thing, not necessarily the convenient thing. He never put others down while they were putting him down. Jefferson was not principled like Adams and Hamilton was not a nice person.
Everyone should listen the ending of the last episode of the John Adams series. It will make you cry.
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If Ron endorses John Adams
I will vote for him...
#1 Washington
#2 Madison
#3 Jefferson
#4 Adams
#5 Franklin
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flipper
Madison was a flip-flopper. :-)
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Got to go with Jefferson only because I was named after him and so was my grandfather
Wake the Hell Up
could have been the subtitle of Thomas Paine's 'Common Sense,' I have a soft spot for him. Also the sheer width of Franklin's talents was amazing. But without GW there's no USA as we know it.
-JP
The same can be said of
The same can be said of Adams, Jefferson, Franklin, Paine, etc, etc... Each one brought a very important part to the fight. There truly is no "one" that shines brighter than another when it comes down to it.
Gotta be
Washington...
Patrick Henry is one of my favorites.
There is a large variety of great men of that era to choose from, so it's hard to pick just one.
He's one of mine too! In
He's one of mine too!
In my public speaking class, we had to "introduce" someone to the class (like s/he was going to be the keynote speaker or something). I spoke about some of his accomplishments, including the speech "Give me Liberty or Give me Death" and left his name until the end. No one, NO ONE, knew who I was speaking of until I said his name. The sad, sad state of our public education system.
While not a founding father, Lincoln is my least favorite. Say something positive about him and a verbal argument is sure to insue.
In a game of b-ball I'll have to go with Lincoln "Mr. Sky-Hook"
He would have dunked on all the other founding father's in a game of one-on-one b-ball (basketball) -- referring to Lincoln
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Greatest
That would be hard pressed to pick the greatest...I think they were the sum of their parts but I like James Madison and Benjamin Franklin. I'm really fond of one of Ben's quotes about Democracy ......"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner, Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote".
According to most research,
According to most research, he never said that. Sorry.
General Washington
The leader of the original American Revolution.
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The only president
The only president not a member of a political party, although his ideology most aligned with the Federalist Party. He warned of the corruptive nature of political parties. Exhibit A: fraudulent left-right paradigm of the War Party.
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Favorite president...
Andrew Jackson... Hands down. He fought tooth and nail and set the banking cartel back a hundred years. He fought the beast and won!
More importantly, he made the people understand. They actually KNEW what was going on!
Great Photo depicting the epic battle with the banks.
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Jackson is definitely up
Jackson is definitely up there.
Irony is Andrew Jackson on a central bank note.
Yep...
A sad twist that on my more suspicious days makes me wonder if it was a deliberate choice to place him on the paper we call money as a final "ha, we won in the end."...
Hey, I was just thinking the same thing the other day...
I bet he would be highly pissed off at having his face on a piece of paper.
There is no question about it.
Washington with out a doubt.
The modern day Cincinnatus.
I have an approximately 40 volume unabridged set of Washington and his writings.
I know of only one other complete set to exist.
The humblest of men.
The leadership skills.
His men would die for him, as if he was their father.
It is almost as if I was describing Ron Paul.
WAHOR!!
The Federalist Papers really
The Federalist Papers really influenced me. These were written to argue for the ratification of the Constitution....so don't forget Alexander Hamilton, James Madison and John Jay.
Do You Think
that the constitution may have been the start of our undoing? Maybe the articles of Confederation were good enough? Maybe the states should have stayed soveriegn? Maybe the war against states rights commonly called the civil war was not really about slavery?
I now question everything. I will soon be reading " The South was Right" by Kennedy. Has anyone read it? Just the beginning of a new chapter of research for me.
As far as presidents go, even though he is not a founder JFK has moved up on my list of favorites due to his warnings about secret societies, and his moves to restore our constitutional currency.
Appreciate your thoughts.
Slavery is wrong, but the
Slavery is wrong, but the civil war was one of northern aggression. The confederate states saw the problems with strong overreaching federal government and flawed money system. They were fighting for states rights. The war was not fought over slavery; it was fought over money and federal power to tax the south.
By ratifying the constitution, we accepted the least imperfect system. Yes, the moment it was signed, started a long struggle to keep our country truly free.
JFK did some great things for civil liberties.
The start of our undoing was
The start of our undoing was when we stopped governing ourselves. We had gotten complacent and were content to let someone else handle it. We stopped fighting for our freedom and rights. That was this nations undoing. The children didn't pay attention and had forgotten the lessons their parents had learned.
You Forgot Thomas Paine...
Thats who I admire the most.
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It doesn't surprise me, his
It doesn't surprise me, his choice is mine as well.
I was always a Jefferson fan
I've been looking into Adams a lot lately, because of RP's position.
Not that RPs saying Jefferson was not "good" -- it may have been the challenges that Adams faced; it might have been is sprituality vs Jefferson's quasi-atheism.
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Adams was a very principled
Adams was a very principled man. He didn't believe in owning slaves and he believed in the rule of law. His intentions were that in this nation, man would be protected from the government by the laws which were put in place to govern the government, not man.
Yes, but what about the Alien and Sedition Act?
Adams signed these, and Jefferson said they were unconstitutional, particularly against the Tenth Amendment? He argued that the federal government had overstepped its boundaries.