My take on Bob Barr supporters

Tog you are a great R3VOLutionary and I know you will see the movement to the end.And I respect you for that but to not have another alternative is simply suicidal. I am in this to WIN and for me it means breaking the two party system the one that have excluded Paul and all his ideals.I know a national delegate in my precent and have tried to share with him the DVD for delegates all to no avail.He even admits he threw it in the garbage.This is what we are up against in the RNC.I ve even tried to hand national delegates acopy of the REVOLUTION manefesto and they wouldnt even accept it So I am very proud of each and everyone of you hard work. but I simply brought this up now because guite simply we must because after the convention might be too late.I still salute you and too all those who have worked hard and continue to work hard for the Revolution.

Here is a video from a West Virginia TV station featuring the wonderful people from all over the country who are working to get a candidate who speaks out for Liberty and the Constitution onto its Presidential ballot. Otherwise, the folks there will have either McCain or Obama. Not a good choice. http://blog.bobbarr2008.c...

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For those that missed these articles being posted a couple months ago!
link to full articles below
Here is the relevant excerpt in first article:

"The determination by the financial controllers that Obama is the anointed one may also be shown by the entry into the race of former Georgia congressman Bob Barr as the candidate of the Libertarian Party. Barr will siphon votes away from John McCain and make Obama's election a certainty, just as Ross Perot did with President George H.W. Bush in 1990, allowing the election to swing to pro-business Democrat Bill Clinton.

Barr's entry is no accident and serves multiple purposes. According to journalist James P. Tucker, Jr., for instance, attendees at an April 25-28 meeting of the Trilateral Commission in Washington , D.C. , made a determination to stop Republican candidate Dr. Ron Paul's momentum in stirring up a political “revolution.” (James P. Tucker, Jr., “Trilateral Commission: Global Elite Gather in D.C.,” Global Research, May 6, 2008)

full article http://www.marketoracle.c...

and then theres this:
James Tuckers Article Here Report on Trilateral Commission
http://www.globalresearch...

Now, I will move on to doing something positive today and will ignore the Barr threads from now on! We have a job to finish!

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isn't there a Barr site for his supporters? Why would anyone spend as much time here as a few seem to be if not to detract from Dr. Pauls message. I for one have realized the danger of voting for the lessor of two evils and will never be enticed to do so again. Whether its counted or not you can bet I'm writing in Ron Paul on my ballot. Now you may begin the insults.

Here is the link to the video of part of Bob Barr's Testimony to the House Judiciary Committee this past week:

http://blog.bobbarr2008.c...

Bob Barr has now raised over $530,000 and now has over 5,700 Meetup Group Members.

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Bob Barr has dedicated his life to serve this country. He has been a CIA man, doing what all patriotic people do in the CIA. He was a great prosecutor in the war on drugs. God knows how many non violent self prescribers would be running on the streets if he hadn't done such a great job.

And how dare you insult a CIA agent. Don't you know that once CIA always CIA???

And tell me, who if not Bob Barr is going to save us from "global warming"? I can't see those evil terrorist gases, but the media tells me they are out there. Bob Barr just met with Al Gore and praised him for working on solving this terrible problem and advised him to let the "private industry" help the government issue its decrees.

Bob Barr is a great hero. He might all his adult life misunderstood the constitution and his duty to it. But now with the revolution making great strides, I'm sure the kind people at CIA are seeing us in a different light, and this might have influenced Mr. Barr.

By the way has any one searched the past of that other hero, his running mate? He is quite the patriot!

Boris in Miami

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I am about to give up on this site, I really have better things to do.

With nonsense like this post this site, why should I stay? Now before you say, "good, then leave you Bob Barr supporter you!" Ask yourself the question, how do you gain liberty when your actions are to make the group of supporters smaller?

I know there are some rational people left on here, but we are becoming the minority. And you guys wonder why no one is even signing up on RP CFL site? You guys are destroying this movement. What a shame. BTW... McSame and Obama called to say thank you.

I support Paul and Barr. No rule says you can't.

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thats all. If you are a Ron Paul supporter turned Bob Barr supporter you should respect that. If your Bob Barr promoting causes one delegate to give up on going to the convention, I say everything you have done before promoting Barr on this site, for Ron Paul, is null and void. I say it makes you a detriment to this Revolution more so than ever being an asset. I like the saying "What have you done for the Revolution lately?" Christmas is gone, why aren't you? Like I have said before, if the soldiers that fought in the Revolutionary War gave up as easily as you, we would still be speaking English, only with a British accent. If you can't respect the delegates working for us right now, by posting Bob Barr, Chuck Baldwin promotional threads, I will say you are a turncoat. I will say it everytime you ask me what you are. I am asking for you to give the delegates the respect they deserve for spending their time and money. I don't have any problems with who you support, I am saying I have a problem with you trying to pull people to your side on a site designed to promote Ron Paul.. There is a site to promote Liberty, and to continue Ron Paul's ideals and it is called www.campaignforliberty.co... not www.dailypaul.com- can you recognize the difference. Spread your Barr and Baldwin promotion after the convention and you will not hear a peep from me if Ron Paul is not the nominee, not a peep. In fact I will take your suggestions into consideration. Until the convention happens, I will consider your posts disrespectful to the people still working hard for Ron Paul, and I will continue to defend my position for the delegates and their sacrifices.

Who does not want to see Bob Barr in the debates with Obama and Mccain?

I've been a Libertarian for years, I supported Aaron Russo in 2004, and I was the RPI Objectivist club president.

I was emotionally, physically, Spiritually, and financially invested in Ron Paul, I organized almost every meetup in Vermont and I was the ballot access coordinator and even did the Vermont Ron Paul myspace site. I worked part time and just Ron Pauled my life away. I cried just about every day and I am still in debt today as I write this. I was completely and utterly selfless because I believed. I became deathly ill on the night of the New Hampshire primary and was depressed for 4 months. It took me that long to get my self esteem back.

I now support Bob Barr. And when people suggest that I am retarded or evil in my decision to support Bob Barr, you can just GO TO HELL for suggesting that I am not a true American, have no intelligence, am a troll, a neo-con puppet ect. You can just go to hell, your irrational accusations of Bob Barr supporters gets an irrational response. You hurt my feelings and my intelligence. You will never get anyone to follow anything you ever suggest because you are irrational and barbaric. You will never engage in a intelligent discussion about who to support in 2008. f*ck off.

Ron Paul said he doesn't want to disrupt the RNC, he doesn't want to be written in, he said its the message not the man, and he also said he doesn't want to get in between Barr and Baldwin. Is Ron Paul NOT a man of his word?????

I don't hate Barr, I just consider him unworthy of my vote because of the Patriot Act, and his VP seems spectacularly unlibertarian--enough so that he's a sort of mockery of the whole non-aggression principle concept. They make two very strange standard bearers.

The Libertarian Party should have nominated someone else; if so, a lot more people would be supporting the party this year. I would probably be one of them.

Baldwin has problems too, I'm sorry to say, none of which are his fault, exactly, but I can't blame anyone for writing in Ron Paul instead.

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No offense but you are not using your gray matter.

Many Barr supporters don't understand that he is very likely to slide to the left or neocon way and betray our principles BUT they are thinking strategically.

"Run at the first sign of opposition"?? What are you talking about?

1 - they don't want John McCain

2- they want to punish with the hope of reforming the Republican party

3- maybe they believe this will have more effect than still pushing Ron Paul now he has suspended his campaign and rather than writing him

I think you can argue against that point.

4- they see Barr as part of a broader CFL - pushing a liberty/libertarian agenda wherever they can

And you can argue that that is not going to work either

That's my take on this post. You sound like a hater to me *on this subject* or you are just frustrated.

Hi Tog,
Check out this video: http://www.youtube.com/wa...
I voted for Ron Paul in 1988 for President as the Libertarian Party candidate and in 2008 for the Republican Party's Presidential nomination. But Congressman Paul has suspended his campaign and moved on to the Campaign for Liberty, which I joined immediately.
Now is the time to start supporting a Presidential candidate who will be on the ballot in all 50 states and is speaking out for the US Constitution and liberty. Here is a good video that ties together alot of the great libertarian messengers from the last 50 years. Congressman Ron Paul and Bob Barr are heroes because they are doing what they can where they are at. Ron Paul has changed many minds for liberty. Bob Barr has changed his mind about many issues for the better. May I suggest that some people change their mind about Bob Barr? Lets rally together and make a difference for freedom. Here is the link: http://www.youtube.com/wa...
Let freedom grow. Peace and God bless you.
George Whitfield
Organizer, Seoul Ron Paul and Bob Barr Meetup Groups

But who the F*&K are you to pigeon hole me into one of those two categories?

How about this one:

Take Number Three - I supported Ron Paul from the beginning, even before he formed his exploratory committee. I fought to elect delegates from my state. We were not successful. (Louisiana) There is nothing more I can do in Louisiana to help Ron Paul at the RNC, which he won't even be attending because he will be at the Rally for the Republic. (I will be in school and so cannot attend, though I would if it were possible) I don't have the option to write in RP. My state doesn't allow it. There is no place on the ballot, or mechanism to do so with the types of machines we use. (push button) If I chose to vote absentee, I stand a chance of my vote not being counted at all. If I take that chance, and write in Dr. Paul somewhere on the ballot (since there is no blank for a write in) my ballot will be tossed in the trash and so will my vote for other Libertarian candidates. I still hope Ron gets the RNC bid. I have already donated a large amount of time, blood, sweat, effort, and money to his campaign, and I currently donate to the Campaign for Liberty. I am voting for Barr, and I support him, because he is the best voice for Liberty who is definitely in the race. If Dr. Paul gets the nomination, I will vote for him and not Barr. At this point, there isn't much other choice than simply not voting in the presidential race. I don't see that as doing much good. I'd rather, absent Dr. Paul in the race, give the LP the best showing I can.

I think sir, you owe myself and all others like me an apology.

Here is a summary of Bob Barr's famous or more appropo infamous record:

1. Employed by the CIA. Perhaps he is still employed by the CIA?
2. One of the House Managers in the Clinton impeachment preceeding. Regardless of your opinion of Bill Clinton, it is outragious that Barr assisted with Clinton's impeachment and yet has not demanded impeachment of George W Bush until recently as a Presidential candidate himself, who clearly has violated the Constitution.
3. Voted for the 1st Patriot Act. Barr's explanation is that he tried to add sunset clauses to the Patriot Act and thus why he voted for it. He could have voted No and the other congressmen would have voted Yes with the sunset clauses included.
4. Voted Yes for the Iraq Resolution. President Bush used this resolution to unconstitutionally invade Iraq. Congress must declare war. A resolution is NOT a declaration of war. How does a Libertarian Presidential nominee explain voting Yes for the Iraq resolution?
5. Bob Barr while in Congress proposed that the Pentagon ban the wicca religion. I thought Libertarians believed in civil liberties which includes freedom of religious choice?
6. Bob Barr sponsored and authored the Defense of Marriage Act. This act prevented the federal government from recognizing same sex marriages. Again where are the civil liberties?
7. Barr was a proponent on the war on drugs. There even is a Barr Amendment that allows the federal government to ban marijuana use for medicinal purposes. Regardless of your opinion of marijuana even for medicinal purposes, since when does a free constitutional republic tell its citizens what they can put in there bodies. I thought Libertarians supported civil liberties?

As you can see in my opinion the evidence is clear and indisputable that Bob Barr is NOT a Libertarian. Perhaps he is a CIA wolf in sheeps clothing. But what do I know. I only looked up the poor saps voting record.

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