~Traitor Within CFL???~

At the primary, vote for the guy.

At the convention, vote for the guy.

On election day, vote for the guy.

If everybody did it we would win!

And then the bureaucrats will probably throw some ridiculous book of 'rules' or 'laws' or whatever at us and tell us, no, that didn't happen because we are your masters and here are your rules. Move along, citizen, but don't expect anything from us, because we aren't liable if we fail in our 'duty' to 'protect' you.

The sooner we all realize how silly this government is and stop participating in it, the sooner we will all be free of it and the goons that run it!

A good place for everyone to start is to learn how to be a good juror. Look into being a fully informed juror at fija.org. Ron Paul cannot give you freedom. You already have it. You have to go get it, and hold on to it, and refuse to dance the dance of social morality and the terrible laws that are created by people who have NO INTEREST IN YOU. Only a very few politicians have a real interest in freedom and the natural rights of the people. I doubt whether putting one of them at the top of the heap will make the rest of the manure pile stink less.

Get informed. Go get your own freedom.

'Live for yourself, there's no one else more worth living for,
Begging hands and bleeding hearts
Will only cry out for more...'

The upper management at my work place are....umm....undecisive and slow. So.....I make my own decisions...on the fly. If i'm wrong (rarely)....I just smile and say "oops!". So yea....bring your signs, horns, hula skirts, and boom-bah's until someone with actual, constitutional authority says its a no-no :)

I am starting to doubt the granny's every time they post there is some conspiracy or they are trashing someone. I have supported them thus far and they get an A for effort but either they have poor judgment or they think they are more important then they really are because there just seems to be to many people supposedly out to get them.

All these rallies and events have done very little because the media has largely ignored them. The internet is responsible for our numbers not these events. I think they are worth while on occasion but there have been far to many and that energy would be better focused on doing what is actually working and that is taking back the republican party.

People need to stop getting poed every time something does not go their way and just move forward instead of prolonging the drama and blaming the campaign or others. Don't worry about what the official CFL says do what you feel is right and let the market decide and if it does not come out as you hoped don't blame everyone else just move forward and learn from your mistakes.

I am in Idaho and we have had our fair share of drama and people trying to thwart us but we largely ignored it and pressed forward and the tide is turning and we are making headway, not with rallies and other feel good events but with action in the trenches working to take our precincts back one at a time.
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Maybe they don't want Ron Paul for President signs because the CFL is trying to direct the movement beyond Ron Paul?

Or maybe they didn't want to have anything to do with the GWs?

hmm.... perhaps it's possible that they know something we don't, or else they seriously aren't interested in that sort of activity..... It sounds like there is still a strong push to somehow get the nomination for Ron Paul (and believe me, I pray for it every day).... but perhaps all these people, maybe even Ron Paul himself, really have shut the door completely....

I would hope not, but maybe they do hold some loyalty to the party? I don't know..... I can't see what they would have to lose/risk by possibly doing something like this....

it does seem fishy.... although, think about it, the last thing the CFL and Ron Paul would want to do is kill off the hope for those of us who think this is our last chance.... they probably recognize that Ron Paul is kind of the corner stone for success, at least until things get moving.... people just won't stay committed without him. So why would they want to tell us all to forget about winning the nomination/effecting the RNC convention.

After all, they have repeatedly said victory in the conventional sense is over (I disagree... I'm still hoping for that miracle). And they keep saying we're not going to protest, or start a fight on the convention floor.....

It very well may be that the CFL does not have the manpower to distribute these items. They may already be overworked with other responsibilities related to the rally in St. Paul.

Painting St. Paul Ron Paul is a project for the grassroots supporters.

Send your unused signs and promotional materials to http://www.dailypaul.com/...

Stop asking for a list of things to ban!!!

Whenever you call someone who says they are the 'law', for instance the St. Paul center, all you are doing is asking them to add your item to their "banned" list.

Look up the City ordinances yourself, look up the rules yourself, since nothing is banned in such a place unless the real law bans such. Policies established by the organizers do not necessarily mean it is legally banned... do your own research and do not ask some 'boss' by phone.
We found this out in Washington state, when people started 'asking' to have their particular item 'banned' by asking if they could bring such... of course everything you asked about suddenly came under some ban!

THE BEST WAY TO BE GRASSROOTS IS TO DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH ON THE LAW AND WHEN IN DOUBT BRING IT ALL... the likelihood that no one, according to State, County, or City ordinance, has ever been allowed a sign in or around that center, is extremely small !!

Let them tell you at the door and show you the law! It turned out in Washington that we were right... everything banned was suddenly in the hands of the McCainites...

Folks the battle for freedom and Liberty is not over... it is just heating up in St. Paul! As you have always done, bring Truth, Honor, Justice, and PROCLAIM LIBERTY THROUGHOUT THE LAND... President Ron Paul would, and by God's grace will, do the same!

Silence and no banner means there is NO army... all the armies of history had their ensign, their banner, their, flag! THUS SHALL IT BE IN THIS GENERATION!

If you are "THAT GENERATION", purchased by 30 years of Dr. Paul's constancy, diligence, and sacrifice for liberty, then proclaim such throughout the land! For this is our forefathers revolution you have inherited... it has been passed on to "That Generation" Ron Paul has purchased... Will you be 'that generation'? Will you carry on that revolution? Do I here a resounding answer? I pray such and that it will be seen in St. Paul!

"Suspicion is a Virtue, if in the interests of the good of the people." Patrick Henry

"We are not weak if we make a proper use of those means which the God of Nature has placed in our power... the battle, sir, is not to the strong alone - it is to the brave..."

There sure have been a few campaign errors to raise doubt.

The one that still fires me up is that horrible television ad the campaign came up with last year...October or so?

It was something like, "he's catching on!"

Errrr.

Please comment at this and at the Paint St Paul RON PAUL thread if you are helping with this effort -if you are a Painter-. http://www.dailypaul.com/...

I agree with liberty belle below, whom I respect much. What I can say about Granny is that she has a lot of insider information and believes that even if there is a sliver of a chance we should not stop trying to Restore the Republic. She disagrees with RP's campaign, as do I and many others. They should not pussy foot, slow down, or be afraid to 'upstage the Convention'.

We have seen a huge change in this county this last couple of months, we don't have much time. It is now, at the convention, that we must show America our commitment to Liberty. America needs to hear what I have told so many corn and beef Americans; It is ok to be proud of the Constitution and to defend it. It is ok to demand Freedom. We should not be afraid or ashamed of the Constitution; THERE ARE STILL MANY PEOPLE WHO LOVE IT!

How do we show them? WE PAINT ST PAUL RON PAUL! If we pull it off, we will be sending a very strong message to the delegates, the media and all people in America who hear about it.

Please post here or at the main thread if you are a Painter.

Boris in Miami

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This is a Rally for petes sake! The biggest one called for so far! The whole idea of having it is to launch the Campaign for Liberty and yes it is ( in a sense) to upstage the RNC!!!! We are not going to be near the RNC so we will not be interfering with the convention or causing a scene at that location... but the whole damn city, alll the delegates and the all media needs to know we are there and are not going away!!! C'mon people!
We have a fight to fight and there are many that would have us divide and lose focus at this moment! Septemeber is not to be a "whimper" it is to be A SHOUT!!!

I am going to call the Target Center tomorrow!! I want to know exactly what they will or will not allow at the center regarding signage and I want it from at least one credible first hand source from the center itself!!!

On the Paint St Paul with Ron Paul Project- This has to be a grassroots project and other than "city limitations on signs" there should be no reason not to have as many Ron Paul and Liberty minded signs in the face of everyone around that city and for the media to see! What the hell do you think the billboards are for? If Borisimo needs help to get the signs there and people to put them up then I am sure we can manage that on a grassroots level.

The Grannys can have whatever attitude they want about Ron Paul but I personally, very strongly do not like or agree with the attitude and the remarks. I also do not care for spreading rumors and trying to discredit Ron Paul, the campaign for liberty staff, grassroots projects and personal attacks on people that are each in their own way doing positive things. All that rubs me the wrong way!

Anyway- have been gone a few days and I just had to log in on this. Please do not believe everything posted especially if it just seems to not make sense to you!

but I'm pretty sure I sent my stuff to a Minnesota address.

I believe that there was a misunderstanding in the meaning of what the C4L was saying (see my post below). However, try to remember that each event that we are seeing now is just the beginning of the freedom movement that has finally been set on fire in this country and the world.

The tricky part about life is that you have to do your best and give your all to each endeavor...... but you must also keep each endeavor in perspective and remember that it is just one event in the the lifelong quest for excellence.

All of us are just human beings. That includes Ron Paul, and Boris and Granny. Human beings have bad days and good days. You cannot expect someone to come along that is going to do everything right all the time. And you cannot expect someone else to do things for you. And this will be true for the rest of your life.

Things are looking good. Let's not poison the baby before it is even out of the crib. Have faith guys.

here is the deal, RP decided to suspend his campaign....
that is going to be a real tough thing to try to get back the numbers -
that once supported him ... many have probably jumped on the "pop"
band wagon already - so CFL - what ever happens with the numbers game
could possibly be based on that decission. I hope everyone coming there
will think for themselves - when inside the Rally sure we can represent
the CFL ... outside - thats another story - and I really need to chill because the thought of not wanting to upstage the GOP is still pissing
me off greatly! That implies way to much against the apathy that was
cured almost for a year now for me .... time to breathe deeply
RP may be a republican congressman - but I have no allegiance to
that party nor any other. They have burned me year after year as I was
always voting for the lesser of evils .... wasting my votes!
If no RP to vote for in November - 3rd Party vote 08 ...

Stop making every damn thing some kind of conspiracy theory. The convention center, where the Rally will be held, does not allow signs. Geez people!!!!

What the heck do you think we're going to do with Ron Paul for President signs anyway? Dr. Paul has dropped out of the race. That stage is over! Now, it's on to taking back our country from the local level on up and CFL will be there to help us.

that their official policy position is that "we shouldn't upstage the RNC convention"? Who's making this policy, if it is true?

Or is this comment an "off the cuff" comment from some worker there who has his head in rectal-cranial inversion?

and was crowned a king!

miracles do happen
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First let me start by saying that I hold Granny Warrior in the highest regard and get much of my inspiration for activism for Freedom from her. For a whole year she has worked full time towards Restoring the Republic.

I don't know of anyone else who has done so much to advance the freedom movement this last year. She has toured the country showing so many what real commitment to Freedom is. She organized the April 15th Freedom Rally in front of the Capitol on Washington D.C on a working Tuesday. About 2000 people showed up and showed Congress the power of the message. (I say a working Tuesday because Congress was in session and the people inside the Capitol kept on looking out to see the rally.)

At the April 15th Rally she put together the luminaries of the freedom movement. She got them together again in South Dakota for a whole week. And these are people like Bob Schultz of the "We the People Foundation", The Lakota Nation Elder who declared total sovereignty from the USA. The list of luminaries is to long to list, but she got them together and they discussed the situation and strategy.

My point is that I agree with Granny that this is not just about Ron Paul's campaign; It is about empowering ourselves to personally make a change in our lives, and to spread the message of Freedom to all people in America.

I called the Campaign for Liberty to offer to send the signs directly to them, and to ask them to support the effort. Their reply was that they would not be able to use the signs, and more tellingly that "we don't think it is a good idea to upstage the Republican Convention."

Well, as many active people I have spoken to, including Granny, I respectfully disagree.

We have spent a year spreading the message and re-lighting the fires of Liberty. This campaign is ours. We must spread the message regardless of party affiliation and inspite the Republicans.

I for one hope that we are able to show America at the Convention that we were no flash in the pan. And with the help of Mr. Wilkinson from the St. Paul meet up to "Paint Saint Paul RON PAUL" because right now he represents our quest to bring back a constitutional Republic.

There are hundreds of thousands of signs and materials around the country. And this is our last chance to use them. Let's not waste them and use them in this Last HURRAH of our presidential campaign.

I ask of all of you to make "Paint Saint Paul RON PAUL" your own. To spread the information, to ask people to send their signs. To contact your meet ups and let them know about this effort. Please feel free to direct traffic to your own page or forum, as long as the message is the same: To get all material to St. Paul and paint the town FREEDOM.

Thank you, I am glad to be in this alongside so many wonderful people.

Boris in Miami

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"He does not want to be President, never did"

That is disinformation and biased presumption and I don't like it! I can find many interviews where Ron Paul proved he very much wanted otherwise.

After Ron Paul was initially convinced to run for President and then saw the massively growing support he began receiving, he really felt he had a chance. It was only after personally witnessing the vote count fraud in each of the primaries (which he spoke about), coupled with the blatant and ever-growing media black-outs, that this became too much to overcome in his bid for Presidency. However, he did not give up even then and has kept his positive attitude, as always.