The Top 3 unanswered questions about 911 are: Where was Norad? Who shorted the stocks? & Why WTC7 fell without being hit?

Actually you can't prove Who Did What in a cover-up. So #2 is not relevant, in my opinion.

It's like the Warren Commission cover-up. We don't know who the shooter at the grassy knoll was--we just know Oswald didn't kill Kennedy
because of the Altgens photo, the Zapruder film, and the absurdity of the "magic bullet theory".

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Answers to those 3 questions:

#1 All those at Norad were doing early XMas shopping

#2 The Grinch did all the shorting

#3 WTC fell at the hands of mother nature ( just on of those things )

.Supposedly he's a good shot. *confused*

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There are literally dozens (if not HUNDREDS) of unanswered questions regarding 9/11, and related events preceding it and related events following it. That, in itself, should require any thinking person to disavow the likelihood that the official conspiracy theory is anything close to reality...

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Why the FBI missed evidence and indications that there were suspicious people learning to fly planes (but supposedly not land).

#4 should be the alleged mossad agents in the van that were caught celebrating.

THe buildings are irrelevant, because there is not reasonable theory for how they were rigged for demolition prior to the attack. I suspect the building story is a creation of cointelpro, used to discredit, confuse, and take interest away from the more reasonable questions.

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thread and discussion. Your tactics have obviously backfired thus you should declare your efforts a total failure. Back to the drawing board dude!

looks like a thermite cut to me

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this again since I posted it at 2:00am and there was not much response.
The biggest lie
is committed by the MSM who is one of the biggest enemies to America and Ron Paul. Allmost all of the 911 WTC videos have been doctored or are completly fake and there is proof staring everybody in the face!! I don't understand why in this age of CSI and being able to throughly anaylize everything why these videos have not been. I also don't know why it hasn't been discussed more on this forum.

Watch september clues part 8 to start with - it is about 10 minutes long.
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Time and time again when he was asked about 9/11.

He could have said something like..."the first 9/11 "Truthers" were the victim's family members. It took them 14 months to get the government to even start an official investigation. FOURTEEN MONTHS BEFORE AN OFFICIAL INVESTIGATION EVEN BEGAN.

He could have said the 9/11 Commission didn't even attempt to explain how Building 7 collapsed. I can certainly understand why people want to know how a 47 story steel building that was not hit by a plane imploded into it's own footprint on the same day.

Many Americans were distrustful at the time of the Warren Commission after the JFK assassination and rightfully so. Not many people still believe the "magic bullet theory" the Warren Commission endorsed. If I become President I will immediately declassify anything and everything related to the JFK assassination.

Whenever the government investigates itself, there is always a cover-up. The 9/11 Commission was probably no different. To my knowledge, no one was fired or even demoted. In fact many have been promoted. Thats ridiculous."

I ran a meetup group and my most active and enthusiastic members were 9/11 Truthers until Dr. Ron dissed them.

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10) The Project for a New American Century

9) $2.3 Trillion went MISSING from the Pentagon before September 11, 2001

8) Our defense system – the most expensive on Earth – was useless, yet those responsible were not held accountable

7) Foreknowledge: Relevant intelligence was ignored and insiders were warned

6) President Bush continued reading The Pet Goat to children instead of being whisked to safety or doing his job

5) Passports fluttering down from the WTC

4) Huge airliner vanishes at Pentagon; no bodies, no debris to speak of – no plane!

3) FBI immediately confiscated video of Pentagon event

2) Obstruction of justice and tampering with evidence

1) Use of 9/11 to enable tyranny

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If the timestamp on that video is correct, that means alot more to me than two structural engineers arguing with each other.

Theories aside, there is no harm in asking questions.

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While several people have admirably attempted to dispute the claims of the conspiracy theorists with explanations clearly showing point by point how the towers came down, I have not seen a concise theory showing point by point how this conspiracy was committed. Rather it is a continual stream of posts like this saying basically that if you cannot explain this anomaly, then the conspiracy theory (well such as it is) must be true.

Rather than another futile attempt at explaining how the towers did come down, I will engage in the same argument by anomaly as used by the conspiracy theorists. IOW, I will not believe a conspiracy was involved until all of the following can be answered.

1> Relative to the original post, regardless of the answers to questions 1 and 2, how would any answer have any effect on the physical evidence and therefore have any bearing on how the towers actually came down?

2> Regarding WTC1, WTC2 and WTC7, what means of demolition was used, conventional explosives, thermite, or something else?

3> On what floor or floors was the demolition material placed, and with regards to WTC1 and 2, how was it known so accurately which floors the planes would strike, or was it rigged on a large number of floors just to make sure?

4> What type of ignition source was used with either explosives or thermite? Any conventional ignition source used with either material requires no more than the heat provided by a match. How did the ignition source survive the fire from burning jet fuel after the initial impact? Further, if it was able to survive this and subsequent fires, why was it not also resistant enough to have been found, at least as remnants, in the rubble. Remnants of primer cord for example, is regularly found in the rubble following a conventional implosion.

5> If conventional explosives were used, why are there no audible explosions. See the following two videos.
http://www.metacafe.com/w...
http://www.youtube.com/wa...

The first is the Landmark tower in Fort Worth Texas, the second tallest building ever imploded. It is shot from a helicopter from a couple thousand feet away. Note how loud the rotor noise is at the beginning of the clip, and then how loud the explosions are, almost drowning out the rotor noise.

Compare this with the second video, which is from ground level, also no more than a couple thousand feet away, and while there is plenty of "crowd noise" it is certainly no louder than the rotor noise in the first clip. Yet nothing that sounds even remotely like an explosion can be discerned.

Also note, that for a controlled implosion, very precise timing is required and there is a clear pattern, i.e. inner columns to outer columns, left to right, etc. based on the direction desired for the building to fall. If WTC1, 2 and 7 were controlled implosions, why is there no discernable pattern? If it were explosives, why did they all go off at once, which is to say a non-controlled implosion.

Lastly, where are the bright flashes found when using conventional explosives as in any other controlled demolition?

6> If thermite were used, how was the timing managed so precisely? Conventional explosives are relatively easy to time because the reaction is so quick. Conversely, thermite reactions are quite slow, so timing exactly how long it is going to take to burn through something requires both very sophisticated calculations and extensive knowledge of the targeted material and dimensions of the material. For something requiring millisecond timing, attributes such as the exact alloy, size, dimensions, accessible area, etc., of the material are going to have a significant effect on how long it will take to burn through the particular column, truss beam or other structural element. How was such precise timing achieved?

Additionally, thermite burns very brightly. How was it managed that no video from any angle of any of the three affected towers, shows a single instance of these characteristic bright flashes.

7> What exactly is meant by a controlled implosion anyway, in context with the WTC towers? In the Landmark building implosion shown above, nary a single window broke in any of the surrounding buildings. OTOH, the collapse of WTC1 and 2 resulted in the destruction of all 7 WTC buildings and St. Nicolas Greek Orthodox Church. Further, significant impact damage occurred to four other buildings, including One Liberty Plaza which was so extensively damaged that it had to be demolished (or is still in the process of being demolished).

If that constitutes a controlled implosion, just exactly what is an uncontrolled implosion?

8> While it is true much of the rubble went straight to recycling facilities, key evidence was retained and made available for inspection not only by the NIST but other non-government affiliated organizations. Annealing studies of the steel debris show that it was heated to a temperature of about 600 degrees C. A temperature at which steel loses about 85% of its strength. Further, truss beams were shown with severe bends in the middle consistent with the effects of prolonged exposure to these temperatures. The Learning Channel even showed one of these beams in its documentary on "The Day the Towers Fell".

If these buildings were brought down by implosion, why do the trusses on the floors of the impact show deformations consistent with extreme heat sufficient to have caused catastrophic failure on its own, and without the need to appeal to any other outside causes?

If explosives / thermite took out the columns to which the trusses were attached, why didn't they come down basically intact, since they were not the element that failed? Similarly, a column, beam or other element taken out either by conventional explosives or thermite will leave a very distinct signature (IOW a sharp break) at the point where it took out the structural element. Why was no evidence of this found in the rubble or debris taken for analysis?

I suppose the government could have faked it, But how did it manage to fake 60' trusses and truss beams? Is the government secreting a steel mill in area 51 to manufacture these fakes? Is Leslie Robertson (structural engineer for WTC 1 and 2), the ASCE, TLC, popular mechanics, and virtually every structural engineer and architect in the country involved in this conspiracy? My father, who is an architect, would like to know, because somebody clearly forgot to send him his check. :)

9> The last and undoubtedly hardest question to answer is, how is it that the same incompetent government that so massively screwed up in Iraq, Katrina, on national security, etc. is now suddenly showing an unprecedented level of competence by successfully pulling off a conspiracy of this sophistication?

Oh yea. I have one confession to make now that you have reached the end of this post. When I said above that "I will not believe a conspiracy was involved until all of the following can be answered", I lied. I will do exactly what all the other conspiracy theorists do when their pet anomalies are shot down, I will just move the goal posts and present a different set.

Regards,
Eric

A loyal Ron Paul supporter who while believing government is evil does not believe it is competent enough to have pulled off a conspiracy as sophisticated as 9/11.

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