"They are destroying the Constitution" ROBERT F. KENNEDY JR.!!! another potential VP??
Submitted by Jdayh on Sun, 08/03/2008 - 01:14
www.brasschecktv.com/page/328.html
Before you immediately think this is the worst idea ever...please watch the video and then post your comments....
He may be coming around to true conservative values..... and if true..it will be the rebirth of AMERICANS STANDING UP FOR THE Constitution... (mainstream...) I know we have woken up and we stand up for the constitution...but the masses...still don't....he represents a large section of the 60's generation that remember John F Kennedy and would take it seriously this election..I MEAN IF YOU THINK WE ARE DIE HARD RP FANS...some of the JFK fans from the 60's make us look mild and and passive....
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Fathers and sons
George Bush Sr's corrupt idiot son is elevated to the White House where he has succeeded in doing more damage to America than any external enemy in its history.
Meanwhile, the deeply informed, insightful, patriotic son of Robert F. Kennedy is all but banned from the airwaves.
This tells you everything you need to know about why America is where is is today and what track it's on.
for a better understanding of RFK Jr. please watch this brief interview on vaccines...and the damn corporations that make them....RFK tells it like it is....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrIM2hwrLoc
Great Videos
Have seen then before but watched again since RFK jr. is such a good speaker and so focused on The Constitution and having an informed citizenry.
He completely looses me at the Kyoto Protocols and Global Warming - fraud.
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I think it may be well to understand him...a bit better
Just because something says they support
the Constitution, it doesn't meant they're Constitutionalists. They're usually full of it. For example, Kuncnich. He's only a Constitutionalist when it's convenient. When has he ever called for government to limit its involvement in the economy to Constitutional limits? Never. He's for more government involvement in the economy, such as minimum wages, central planning, more government ownership of means of producution, expanding the federal welfare state, and so on..
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I agree actually I think Kuncnich does use it when it is
convenient...
---if he would only read it ...then he might change his mind...most of what you mentioned is not even permitted in the constitution
Constitutional interpretation
You won't like how he interprets most of the Constitution. I listen to his radio show in the car and it isn't pretty. It's a little early in the possible true understanding of Mr. Kennedy, or he may never really come around.
someone needs to ask this
someone needs to ask this dolt how many votes his uncle voted for unconstitutional legislation! so its ok for his family to destroy the constitution but heaven forbid if its the liberal RINO'S!
as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD
"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson
I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain
Invite him
everyone is needed in the revolution.
/Mike
Front Fell Off
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcU4t6zRAKg
at what point does the
at what point does the revolution get watered down like the republican party?? think about it!
as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD
"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson
I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain
At what point
does the church get watered down? This isn't your revolution, this isn't my revolution, this isn't even Ron Paul's revolution. All are welcome. Who knows, give him a day or two with the Patriots, and he might have an epiphany!
http://www.youtube.com/user/Walk4Freedom
http://www.walk4freedom.org/
http://ronpaul.meetup.com/363/
http://www.youtube.com/user/Walk4Freedom
http://www.walk4freedom.org/
http://ronpaul.meetup.com/363/
his version of constitution
his version of constitution and how it is interpreted fits his needs.. tigers don't change there stripes! ask his uncle! being watered down is the reason why this country finds its self in the bad situation it is in!
as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD
"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson
I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain
I love 2 things that he says...
and he also believes it.
1) they are destroying the constitution.
2) we don't have a "working press" in this country.
MSM are liars.
But, he still believes in big government's cradle to grave approach.
He's A Progressive...
... steeped in a liberal tradition which, understandably, gives you and I pause. But I don't think your assessment is correct.
The only criticisms I've heard are the same group affiliation assumptions that are never accompanied by a specific quote or particular policy indictment.
He clearly has history of bold distrust of government. His proposed solutions, while couched in the rhetoric necessary to address his constituency, is not the usual liberal pablum. He is unapologetically pro free market and anti government.
Who stands a better chance of bringing progressive liberals along in our fight ?
I say: Welcome Aboard..... Let's dialog.
I would love to see this man interviewed by one of our new
press....BTM or RB I think that the type of questions we would ask would be amazing!!!!
Actually,
That's a good idea.
Here Is Some Of What I Learned As I Researched
I like the guy. I like him a lot.
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/48360#comment-462058
great assesment....there is more to him than just the Keneddy
name....I feel that if Ron Paul ever parts ways with the Republicans and starts a LIberty party...RFK would fit in...(he just needs to reread the constitution once in a while to continue detoxifying alll the liberalism he was raised on--probably once a month ought to do...)
BTW great video for those who want to get a better idea of the man
www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrIM2hwrLoc
thanks LibBerte
This guy endorsed Hillary!
If he's so gawd almighty well-informed, why does he believe in global warming? How could he endorse a shill like Hillary? How could he not believe in Ron Paul? I REALLY take offense to his statement about how "many republicans are just democrats who aren't informed." Where does he get off thinking democrats have their shit together? If he thinks our constitution is being so maligned, does he mention checking out the Libertarian or Constitution parties? He's a crock.
mosr people
are still blinded by party color...
maybe we could educate him, make him see more light :) just like we wan´t to do with all other ppl..
/Mike
Front Fell Off
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcU4t6zRAKg
Ididnt say he was ripe or primed...just that....
...He may be coming around to true conservative values..... and if true......
some people it takes a while for them to wake up!! I think that JFK came to different conclusions when he was in office than when he started....
I agree that he may not be ready...In fact I would not be surprised if he has a value system that he keeps closely guarded....most Kennedy's (except his uncle..) seem to be fairly outspoken on many issues...both for good and not so good causes...
here is one of his most recent articles..
http://www.faithandthecity.org/issues/physical/articles/The-...
where was this joker when
where was this joker when clinton was destroying the constitution!
as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD
"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson
I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain
I Think ...
... he was on the front lines, doing personal battle with drug warriors.
Unfortunately, he thinks we
Unfortunately, he thinks we live in a democracy (rather than a republic). When someone misses (misleads?) the most basic stuff like that....I have to worry about underlying intentions.
He's dead-on accurate about our media bias and info black-outs, but that doesn't necessarily make me a huge fan. I'd have to see & read a lot more before I join that particular fan club.
this guy is an idiot...
this guy is an idiot... period!
as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD
"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson
I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain
Sierra, There You Go Again
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/55309#comment-558961
Why don’t you join the dialog among colleagues. But bring your best game. On the playing field of ideas finesse in the execution, and sportsmanship count. Heckling and cheerleading is for the peanut gallery. If you want to score points, take aim and give it your best shot. Flipping it backhanded usually misses the goal.
If we want to win we need to develop teamwork. Practice helps.
SORRY BUT , I'm tired of
SORRY BUT ,
I'm tired of brainwashed countrymen electing idiots to congress then sitting here complaing about unjust wars and paying 4 bucks a gallon for gasoline.. the Amercan peop[le have brought these problems on themselves! they are the ones who vote.. they are the ones who vote democracy so they can have a handout.. guys like kucinich are the ones who play the game.. he is not an honest man! so he's abainst the war.. thats one out of a multitude of issues! I haven't once heard dennis say bring all the troops home, close all the bases, stop all foreign aid, abolish the fed etc etc etc.. yes there I Go again... alone but thats fine with me.. right is right and wrong is wrong...
as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD
"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson
I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain
Well, to be precise..
We don't live in a Republic anymore, and we haven't since the federal government decided to ignore the constitution in the 1860's. What we have now is a partial democracy, with a hell of a lot of corruption.
-jcr
"The problem with trying to child-proof the world, is that it makes people neglect the far more important task of world-proofing the child." -- Hugh Daniel
I'm not sure about vp material
but he's also been outfront on some of the vaccine-related issues.
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"I killed the banks"
you know perhaps not..but can you imagine if he were to be
included in the cabinet??? something like EPA, or US Attorney GENERAL WOW talk about turning some heads.......I MEAN A CABINET LEVEL POSITION FOR A KENNEDY----THAT WOULD BE THE BIGGEST NEWS BOMB PLANET EARTH HAS HAD SINCE....Bobby (his dad) was murdered...or MLK was killed.... AND I DO MEAN HUGE!!!!
he's one of those global al
he's one of those global al gore warming types.. thats enough to turn me off!
as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD
"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson
I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain
He sounds like he is not
He sounds like he is not just a talking head. From the video clips, I can see some die hard republicans will get offended bec they are being equated with ignorance and sheeple. However, we all know that the Ron Paul movement consists of one of the most informed body of electorates, so I am assuming that we can get by with the cursory allusions.
He mentioned that he does talk to Republicans, so that makes his invitation to Sept 2 probable for both him and intended audience.
But more importantly, he seems to talk about topics that are dear to our hearts in this movement.
What nags me is, how do we ascertain that someone is not just talking the talk, or that they will actually have the courage to stand by their rhetoric. We all like Dr Paul bec of his voting records and his speaking the truth under fire from establishment.
Do u think RFK Jr has a record and will stand under fire, unlike perhaps his uncle Ted?
That was solid. Invite him
That was solid. Invite him out to Minneapolis. Send him the Manifesto.
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"But, indeed, no private person has a right to complain, by suit in court, on the ground of a breach of the Constitution. The Constitution it is true, is a compact, but he is not a party to it."
All we want to do
is educate him further. Remember, his views and impressions are largely because of the way he was raised, taught, and educated.
Some re-education is required and teh Manifesto will be a BIG start!
Ya, I think if he came out
he could be budged more towards free-market capitalism.
He uses it a lot in his rhetoric, but I'm sure he makes a lot of exceptions (minimum wage, anti-trust, etc).
Well he seems to understand
Well he seems to understand that what we're getting isn't free market capitalism. I can talk to anybody that knows the difference between capitalism and corporatism. I know several people I can't even talk to because they think corporatism is capitalism. It's really disturbing. At the same time I know liberals that blame everything on the "free market" and their eyes glaze over when I tell them that we do not have a free market economy and that it's a fixed and managed market.
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"But, indeed, no private person has a right to complain, by suit in court, on the ground of a breach of the Constitution. The Constitution it is true, is a compact, but he is not a party to it."
He's interesting
I have read him saying some pro free-market stuff and this is a good video. But I think he is still truly a liberal in his heart.
And I wouldn't want him if he was coming around to true conservative values. Why?
Despite, RFK's rhetoric in video 1, conservatism is a sham. It is simply a philosopohy of maintaining the status quo. It has nothing to do with free-market capitalism.
I prefer libertarian values.