What 3rd party candidate do you agree with most on their positions.

Ralph Nader = Social-democrat (socially liberal; fiscally left-wing)

Bob Barr = Libertarian (socially liberal; fiscally right-wing)

Chuck Baldwin = Paleo-conservative (socially conservative; fiscally right-wing)

Since I'm a libertarian, I chose Barr. Although he has changed position on a number of issues, I have to judge him on his current positions. That doesn't mean I'm a Barr supporter, however.

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Liberty for Dummies

Bob Barr and Chuck Baldwin are compromisers. Bob Barr is because he believes that abortion should be legal in cases of rape and incest and Chuck Baldwin is because his arm had to be twisted to vote for the disaffiliation of the Nevada Independent Party from the Constitution. Before that, he failed to bring the issue up at the National Committee Meeting when he had promised to. I have also heard that Barr actually paid for an abortion.

Both Bob Barr and Chuck Baldwin are cozy with neoconfederates.

http://agoodchoice.blogsp...

http://totalactionradio.c...

Diane Beall Templin is a reasonable alternative with no hypocrisy or neoconfederate leanings.

http://www.theamericanpar...

Matthew Miller

I support Ron Paul and only Ron Paul.
If he's not in it, then I'm not voting.
I'd vote Libertarian if they were still really Libertarians.
However, your vote is wasted on all of them anyway.
They dont get enough votes, and never will.
And Diebold decides for us anyway.

And for anyone that says if you dont vote then you cant bitch about the outcome.
I say, the hell I cant.
Im an American and I can do whatever I wish.

Stick that in yer pipe and smoke it

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Someone needs to slap that webmaster around and tell him that auto-playing audio when a user clicks to their site is extremely rude. No website should take control of my hardware or do anything I don't explicitly request it to do.

(There is a 'stop' button, but it doesn't work - even more annoying)

would be my choice. I knew very little of her before the libertarian national convention, but after hearing her speak [both at the podium and otherwise] I was won over instantly. She's actually a big RP supporter and a true libertarian.

She could probably outdebate the four ne'er-do-wells I list below. Here's her campaign video. Enjoy!

http://www.funnyordie.com...

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Ron Paul isnt an option. I will not vote for a flip-flopping man or a theocrat.

And if Ventura runs third party, I wont vote for him either.

It's actually hard to decide, because on the Constitution Party side, we have an unappealing platform but a good candidate...and on the Libertarian side, we have a good platform with an unappealing candidate.

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"Our founding fathers certainly took stronger Christians positions than Baldwin is and look at the respect of rights and liberties the people had back then."

Prove it. The Enlightenment thinkers were atheists, who fought against the Divine-Right of Kings. Jefferson and the founders took their ideas from the Enlightenment, not from their bibles. Read a book.

People that are against Baldwin for his distinctively Christian stances need to admit that he is truly going after the roots of big government whereas Barr is only chopping at a few limbs, that is if you can trust him, I don't. Barr has claimed to have a change of heart but without a record to prove it, he becomes a huge risk.

Our founding fathers certainly took stronger Christians positions than Baldwin is and look at the respect of rights and liberties the people had back then.

I don't want to get too philosophical, unless someone wants me to, but without the Christian conception of special rights and liberties that distinguish human beings from the rest of the animal kingdom, there are no such things as inalienable rights, rights reduce down to merely suvival of the fittest. If I didn't see every human being as having special rights coming from the fact that they are made in the image of God, how could I argue that you have such rights? Lions sure don't respect the "rights" of the antelope he eats.

Starting to wonder about the context of your post's at this time of the battle.
Why not keep focused on a delegate revolt along with DVDs for delegates?

I mean you have a part of the delegates so to speak so why not stay on that topic or are you just tired and wavering and really don't see what is really possible in Sept.???

I personally and can speak for many others here that we don't give a rat's ass right now hearing about Barr or Balwin or anyone else for that matter.

Wait until after Sept 2nd.Oh, and by the way I will write in Ron Paul if he does not get the nomination. There is no way I would vote for Barr or Baldwin.

Paper Ballots,Hand Counted At The Precinct Or Bust

The Constitution Party has a contradictory combination of beliefs in its platform; look at this mess:

1) Pro-capitalism/individualism + no women in the military, no gambling, no free market for recreational drugs = NOT pro-capitalism and individualism
2) For the war on drugs + against the war in Iraq = not in accordance with the libertarian non-initiation of force principle.
3) pro- Capitalism(western)(rational self-interest) + pro-Christian(middle-eastern)(preaches altruism) = ZERO
4) anti-gay marriage + Anti-NWO = A VERY UNIQUE COMBINATION OF BELIEFS!!!

The simpler version of the fuzzy logic of the CP:
1) apple + orange = not-apple
2) not-apple + not-orange = apple
3) apple + not apple = apple
4) apple on planet A + orange from Planet Z = 2 apple/orange hybrids

Strange!!!!!

These are directly from the CP website. As you can see they are very clear. Agree or disagree there's no hidden agenda.

Seven Principles of the Constitution Party are:

1. Life: For all human beings, from conception to natural death;
2. Liberty: Freedom of conscience and actions for the self-governed individual;
3. Family: One husband and one wife with their children as divinely instituted;
4. Property: Each individual's right to own and steward personal property without government burden;
5. Constitution: and Bill of Rights interpreted according to the actual intent of the Founding Fathers;
6. States' Rights: Everything not specifically delegated by the Constitution to the federal government is reserved for the state and local jurisdictions;
7. American Sovereignty: American government committed to the protection of the borders, trade, and common defense of Americans, and not entangled in foreign alliances.

I am more closely aligned with Chuck Baldwin than Bob Barr. Most people coming to the constitution party are former republicans and libertarians.

that will be on the most ballots and has the highest national polling should be the pick for the R3VOLUTION. I like some of what Barr says but still dont fully trust that he has had some sort of major transformation of his old views. Baldwin also has some good things to say but he won't qualify for more than 30 state ballots plus the CP's platform and Chuck's writings are way to moralistic and religious based that they will turn away a lot of voters. I know many will bitch and moan, but the alternate candidate that will be on the most ballots and have the highest national polling average will be Ralph Nader. He's polling at 6% right now and should be on 45 state ballots. If he has a chance to make the debates with a little help from us civil-libertarian conservatives, why not push him over the edge and get him into the debates to guarantee a civil-liberatrian anti-war voice on the stage.

How come so many chuck baldwin fans? Seems to me anyone who really understands RP's views would vote for Bob Barr. RP is a religous man but keeps his beliefs in check and refers to the constitution, much like the recent voting record of Bob Barr. Maybe I'm missing something, but Chuck Baldwin seems a little too faith driven for me and in my opinion appears to be a weaker candidate than Barr, especially in the debate department. Chuck's overall voting record is closer to RP, and I'm not saying I wouldn't vote for him, but as far as I can tell Mr. Barr has seen the light over the last several years and votes right along side RP on just about every issue.

if Ron Paul is not on the ballot, then whichever one makes it into the debates or is on the ballot in my state.

www.dvds4delegates.com