So how many of you are still wary of Muslims?

in the future, add links to the examples you are talking about or be specific, and pull direct quotes from statements put on DP.
I have not seen examples of what you are talking about here on DP, so it might be just your own opinion and not necessarily correct, unless you show examples to people, who can look at the posts for themselves and agree with your position or not.

of Muslims.But I dislike liars and people who hide who they really are and if you are talking about the great exhaulted Obama I don't trust him,I dislike him and I don't have to accept him or welcome him.
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Minneapolis has a large and fast growing Somali population. I sometimes walk past a large high rise low income housing project full of Somalis. I do not worry about crime in their neighborhood. Not from them anyway. My son, a liberal who voted with the Somali's for Kieth Ellison, our nation's only Muslim congressman, made the offhand comment that Somalis mix with the rest of the population like oil mixes with water.

And I admit, much of my new found faith turned into islam bashing. And even though I knew 9-11 was an inside job, I joined the navy and I kinda convinced myself that GWB must have knew something that the rest of us didnt... and that is why he waged war against the muslems. Now I understand that given all the historical facts of US involvement in that region (base in saudi, overthrow of the shah, supporting saddam before going against him, creating al queda to fight the russians ect ect) I began to realize that radical islam only a symptom... not the disease. The disease is the NWO.

Now im to the point where i dont want an empire... i just want my country. I mean 1 million dead iraqis over demonstratably false information... my God in Heaven... leave these people be.
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I have never been afraid of Muslims. Personally, it is not in my nature to judge a whole, by its parts. I have a nice family who moved across the street from me and most of neighborhood freaked. They would talk about them or they had their house paintballed. It was a shame the first few years, but people have thankfully come to accept them. They stay to themselves. They wave hi and bye. I would not be outwardly thrilled with my neighbors after what they encountered. Their oldest daughter graduated from my school and she was always very pleasant to me and my family. I see how they stick together as a family and I admire that a lot.
We have a ton of Albanian students in my school who are all Muslim. It was just a matter of getting used to a new culture or ideals. They are still into arranged marriages, as well as the daughter being prepared as a wife and the son is very important to the family. As a woman I I find it challenging to work with them based onn my experiences and values. Most of them look European, so without asking you would not know their religion, yet they believe the same as others from the Middle East.

Life is about find ways to work together and to see the person/spirit of each individual. We are all doing the best we can with what we know how. Individual I mean not as a collective- just because I think or know something and hold it to be my truth- it may not be anothers.

I like questions like this that hold ourselves accountable and make us reach insideto see what our true value individually are.
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I'm wary of Zionists

immediately following 911. 911 was caused by 19 disgruntled maniacs.
I have researched 911 for many years, and can only say a couple of things with conviction.

First - the government knew it was going to happen.

Second - certain people knew exactly when is was going to happen.

Third - the government allowed it to happen.

Most of the moslems that hate the U.S. have had family members or close friends killed by the U.S.

If someone killed my family, I would dedicate my life to seek revenge, even though it goes against what Jesus would do.

And futhermore, the more religious people are, the more likely it is that they will kill people of other faiths, this goes for any religion.

You can take any religious book, Bible, Koran, Torah, etc. and find elements of good or evil. You can choose to follow whatever elements you wish. You can justify your actions, with "good" parts or the "bad" parts of the books. Basically, any argument can be justified by a part of the religious writings.

So, what we have here is "blowback", when people's family's are killed, they can justify their retribution with the "eye for an eye" part of the book.

I don't personally know any moslims that have had family members killed by errant U.S. policy, but they exist, and many will do what they can in the name of their loved ones.

We have got to stop looking at people as groups, and start identifying them as individuals. (I think someone famous said that).

I welcome peaceful people of all religions into the fight for freedom. It is the diversity of our culture that makes us great.

Peace.

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Very 1930s Germany.

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I was never wary of muslims so how could I "still" be wary of them.

WAHOR!!
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But you have to admit that Obama/Biden sounds an awful lot like Osama Bin Laden.

I really do not know any Muslims here in the US but I have traveled to Jordan, Morocco, Zanzibar, and Israel. There were both things I appreciated and disliked about these communities as with all others.

The best thngs I encountered were the incredible hospitality and friendliness. I can not think of a more helpful, happy, genuine, live-in-the moment group of people that I have met.

There is a constant gratefullness of Allah type of feeling everywhere. Not in a sense of "my God is better than your God" type of way, but in a "We are all the same" type of way. I guess when you are reminded at least 5 times a day of the Creator it is easy to stay focused.

The dislikeness of being unique was facsinating. In Morocco everyone wears a jelaba, men and women alike, which seems to cover up superficial disturbances and makes you focus more on who people are instead of what they look like, kinda like the Internet.

I loved the ever presence of the elderly. Something that the American culture has gotten rid of. Everyone takes care of their family as in most parts of the World besides here. It is nice to see all of the old and wise hanging around.

And the exceptance of outsiders was quite amazing, especially in Zanzibar. I was there during Ramadan, hanging with people fasting who never drank but was is no way ridiculed about having a drink. I can not say that I felt as comfortable, from nondrinking folks, as I did there.

The one big and bad thing is the nonexistence of women on the streets or even that I even met there. Especially in the non-westernized places. It is eery. In some small towns you may see hundreds of men on the streets and not a single women. Ouch.

Israel is a different story. I have to say that I never traveled to a place with such uptight and sad people. There were only 1 and 10 drivers that were women. They may tout there liberal western ways but have a long way to go. And the poor, poor, Arabs. I was completely appalled at the treatment of the Arabs there. After visiting Israel I have always said "If I was a Palestinian I would be a terrorist too." What a sad situation.

Although I have read a little of the Koran and was not too keen on the fact that Mohamad used force to establish his views, I still have a great deal of respect and admiration for the Islamic people I have met. In my travels I came to appreciate the Muslims and there religion.

Here are the 5 pillars of Islam which I noticed are widely practiced.

Five Pillars of Islam:

1. The Shahadah - "I testify that there is no god but Allah, and I testify that Muhammad is a messenger of Allah"

2. Salat - The second pillar of Islam is Salat, the requirement to pray five times a day at fixed times.

3. Zakat - The third pillar is the practice of charitable giving by Muslims based on accumulated wealth, and is obligatory for all who are able to do so. It is considered to be a personal responsibility for Muslims to ease economic hardship for others and eliminate inequality.

4. Sawm - Is fasting. Three types of fasting (Sawm) are recognized by the Qur'an: Ritual fasting, fasting as compensation or repentance, and ascetic fasting.

5. The Hajj is a pilgrimage that occurs during the Islamic month of Dhu al-Hijjah to the holy city of Mecca, and derives from an ancient Arab practice. Every able-bodied Muslim is obliged to make the pilgrimage to Mecca at least once in their lifetime if they can afford it.

Im no more wary of muslims than anyone else. I dont buy into the idea that somehow they ALL want to blow us up. Its a smaller segment of them who are embittered by the results of this awful us/israeli policy in the middle east.
If we offered them peace and justice we'd get the same in return.

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My personal experiences with Muslims have been negative. I strive to evaluate them on an individual basis, but it's sometimes difficult for me to set aside what I observed while I was involved with the local Muslim community. They're raised in cultures that don't value honesty.

Ive had the fortune of knowing more than a few Muslims on a casual aquaintence basis. My experiences were just as positive/negative as anyone else depending on the individual. Im ashamed to admit that in the weeks following 9/11- when it seemed that as a community they were doing little to decry the attacks - i became a little leery and paranoid. (sadly much like the German citizens probably felt about the Jews after their govt's propaganda campaign). I wondered if deep inside these people was kept a hidden, secret joy over the sucker-punch the Islamo-facists had apparently landed on us that they not dare share in mixed company. Within a month of seeing scattered reports of racial profiling and hate attacks on these regular people I began to equate the Islamo facists as the Muslim version of mainstream Christian's perversion in the "God Hates F*gs" church. By 10/11 I was back to where I was on 9/10. Today I see that we were mostly lied to and manipulated about Muslims. There's just plenty of reasons to hate people on an individual basis- the guy up the road from me that buys butter at Safeway and sells it at 3 am for a 400% mark-up is an a-hole...but not because he's a Muslim.

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I knew a preschool teacher who came to America from Egypt. She was a coptic christian and her family had been persecuted by Muslims for years. She came to this country and her husband tried to start a christian grocery store near Philadelphia and the local Muslims intimidated him to stop being christian, take down his image of Jesus and close the store. He did close his store because the neighborhood had turned mostly muslim. The preschool teacher told me she asked a black muslim woman why she was muslim and the black muslim said "because they pay me a few hundred dollars a month".

I live next to a Muslim, who has had women relatives visit his home and one day I was going over to talk to him, but only saw this woman in a burka on the front porch. So, I was going to ask her where he was and his wife (who's white) rushes outside and says I can't talk to the woman in the burka.

What we got here is a bunch of different people who think they're part of the whole group, but are really a sect that hates most other people. Whatever the religion, or group people say they belong to doesn't really matter-just like going to church doesn't mean you're christian. I don't exactly know who's been compromised by wrong values, but fundamentalist Islam is a known CIA operation.

of those who would convince me to be wary of Muslims.

.......people who happen to be Muslim from different parts of the world. Also, when I was a prison guard the Islamic religion was growing very quickly. Most Muslim people seem very kind and are very hard working and usually very polite. For a class I went to an Islamic religious service and was made welcome and allowed to participate. As a Freemason, many of my Brothers are Hindu, Muslim, Jewish, Christian and Buddhist. Again, we are all Brothers. Muslims are 100% right about one thing, Allah Akbar! (God is Great!)

and VP says they are coming after us....and if we don't take care of them on their own land, they will come get us over here. That is scary.

Imagine them hiding in the Home Depot parking lot trying to blow up your car? This scares me....

/100% sarcasm

I've never been wary of Muslims.

Well, I should clarify: I've never been any more wary of Muslims than I am of Christians or Jews or adherents of any other organized religion. They all frighten me equally. But I don't find Muslims extra scary just because there are Muslim terrorists. There are Christian terrorists and Jewish terrorists, too. I fear all religions because religion is about controlling people. I'm a libertarian; we don't like to be controlled.

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I couldn't care less of anyones religion. It's their actions that matter most.

First of all I don't hold anything against anyone, especially those who haven't wronged me or others. I Honestly believe that Christ is THE way, however it is not up to me to condemn or judge others. I would have no problem being friends with Muslims, however there are few if any in my Podunk town, and the one that I did befriend in Oklahoma City right after 9/11 I loved to death. He was a great man about 50 years old and was having problems in our training class, where we were learning the airline reservation system "Sabre". I sat by him and guided him and helped him out on our breaks, he was a great man who sat in his suburban on all of our breaks and listened to and said his prayers. He is a great man, I can't help but personally think that he was "lost" in my way of thinking, but again he was a great person and only God truly knows what is right, what is in someones heart, and what is going to happen.

That being said..

Who is to say that we are not ALL being tested by the One True God? I look around at people who claim to be "Christian", and they are no more "Christ-like" than my dog. If you were/are a true follower of Christ, you would live, judge, and care as Christ did. Most "Christians" are full of hate and judgment, and that my friends is reserved for God and God alone. Jesus freed us from legalism and the requirement of being of a certain bloodline in order to be accepted. Most "Christians" don't have a clue as to what the Bible really says about how to live life. If you want to be "Christ-like", read what the man said when He was here with us.....you know the red print. If you want a good sermon, read the "sermon on the mount", that should pretty much cover it. No where does it say hate your neighbor for being different, give up on those imprisoned, and judge others. In fact Jesus taught us the opposite of those things.

(1) If you claim to be a Christian, and you don't know the first thing about what Christ taught the world, you need to think again. If your only education about Christ and Christianity came from a man standing in the pulpit, you need to dig for yourself. Just as we can't depend on the MSM to give us the truth, neither can you depend on organized "religion" to show you the true way.

(2) If you want to bash "Christians" for whatever reason, and there are many many horrible things done in the name of Christianity, please reconsider. Just because someone claims to be a Christian doesn't make it so. Facist Nazi Busche says that he is a devout Christian, but as far as I know Christ never stated that Lies, Deceit, and Warmongoring were acceptable to Him.

To summarize, to be a Christian, one must be "Christ-like", and if you don't read the Word of God and especially Christ's own words, you will never know what being Christ-like is about. Please for your own sake, look into it.

I am completely involved with Ron Paul and OUR revolution only because Ron Paul is the most "Christ-Like" person I have ever heard publicly speak. That my friends is what woke me up to the Babylon that is around us, and I am sure that there are many more just like me.

Thank you for your time, and ear.

Peace be with you.

At first I befriended Iraqi Christians - and it was them that opened my eyes to the reality of the region and their relationship with Muslims, and allowed me to really open up to feeling comfortable around people of that faith - I really fell in love with Arabic culture, and the people.

You have to know that even the radical Islamist doesnt hate us because of our religion, our freedom, our prosperity, our western indulgance - its simply not true.

They are not killing themselves over big macs, barbie dolls and our right to run off and call ourself Mormons if we so wished and our ability to broadcast it on sattelite t.v. - as Ron Paul has made all aware here - they hate us because we've been meddling in their affairs for the past century - the CIA has killed leaders democratically elected in the past and replaced them with dictators we felt we could do business with - (Iran, for one example, in the 1950's) and we supported and propelled thugs into positions of power (Saddam himself and the ruling Saudi family)

Add to this our open presence with military bases, strung across their landscape, and I have to tell you, if the situation were reversed, and the Saudis had killed Kennedy while Iraqi planes patrolled the skies off our coast, and Ft. Hood was renamed Ft. Islamabad - while I wouldnt be called a jihadist for ramming planes into Mecca - I would be called a patriot.

and you are right to fear us. The Ginger Revolution will soon dominate the world.

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You can't have both

Im wary of government and politicians.

John Hagee is no better than a Muslim extremist.

As I have heard by numerous Muslims, it's the U.S. neo-con, zionist policies at home and abroad, but not necessarily the U.S. citizens, they have problems with.

However, the other part of that sentiment is: but when the citizens of the U.S. allow their government to be taken over by these groups, that by the way hate Muslims, and don't do anything about it, then the citizens should be held accountable for their governments actions.

Unfortunately, I agree.

Muslim, Christian, Druid, Jew, Wiccan.
It makes little difference to me. I am wary of anyone who structures his or her life around invented nonsense. The only exception is fanboys. Fanboys structure their lives around invented nonsense also, but at least we are aware that it is invented and we revel in it. The difference is, knowing that it is fantasy, we are not apt to sacrifice our lives to Peter Parker nor kill random innocents in the name of the greater glory of Krypton.

Personally, I think the Muslim people are no more "evil" or dangerous than anyone else, but they can be just as misguided as anyone. Fearing a person based on their religion is the height of ignorance. Fearing the damage some one can do because of religous fanaticism (whether Christian, Muslim or whatever) is prudent. Fanaticism in any form is dangerous. Here's some quotes that come to mind:

"If you have two religions in your land, the two will cut each other's throats; but if you have thirty religions, they will dwell in peace." -anon

Nothing is more dangerous than an armed religio-nut doing God's will.
Bush and Osama think alike.
-- Bartcop

"It's downright amazing to see how many people have a direct line to God, yet all receive different messages." - anon

"No country or people who are slaves to dogma and dogmatic mentality can progress."
-- Jawaharlal Nehru, Indian statesman (1889-1964)

Isn't killing people in the name of God a pretty good definition of insanity?
--Arthur C. Clarke

"There is a particular danger with a war that God commands. What if God should lose? That is unthinkable to the evangelicals". "They cannot accept the idea of second-guessing God, and he was the one who led them into war. Thus, in 2006, when two thirds of the American people told pollsters that the war in Iraq was a mistake, the third of those still standing behind it were mainly evangelicals (who make up about one third of the population). It was a faith-based certitude."
-- Garry Wills, in "A Country Ruled by Faith"

"You can tell you have created God in your own image when it turns out that he or she hates all the same people you do."
-- Anne Lamott

The World is divided into armed camps ready to commit genocide
just because we can't agree on whose fairy tales to believe.
In the end, Religion will kill us all.
-- Ed Krebs

The world makes absolutely no sense anymore unless you get up every morning and say to yourself, as a reminder; "There has been a coup in this country and George Bush is trying to kill us all," then things will make sense again.
-- anon

"Christianity has nothing to do with Christ and probably never has, unless Christ was a close-minded, misogynistic, war-loving, imperialistic, aggressive hater of anything he didn't understand or agree with. "
-- seen on CathiefromCanada.com

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