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Did Ron Paul throw in the towel to soon?

After a general inquiry to the campaign headquarters, I was politely informed that Ron Paul is no longer in contention for the Presidency of the United States. This may be old news to some, but I was hoping for an "unconventional" test of the U.S. 2 Party system. There won't be a 3rd Party run for Dr. Paul, but it looks like our good Doctor has resolved himself to be a speaker for the "cause". Too bad. Come hell or high water, I would have liked to see the campaign make a full out assault on the GOP by trying to snatch the nomination away from McCain. I don't see that happening. After the GOP convention, it'll be all over, and if you think Ron Paul was diminished in the primaries, you'll hardly hear a whisper about him in the future. Didn't have to be this way. I think we "had" the momentum, the right argument, the grassroot appeal to really go after the National interest by throwing mud in the face of the GOP, and exposing their hypocrisy and thug dealings. But, we didn't. We didn't get Ron Paul the professional PR help he needed. Now they've lost all the internet momentum they had, ticket sales are weak in Minneapolis, and why not, there is no objective left. This convention should be all about "unconventional political warfare".....teach these old elephants "how" to be a Statesman, instead, I sense a "pep talk" while McCain & Co. march on to a miserable loss in November. Can you say President Obama? Ughhhhhhhhhhhh!

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I don't think so.

I believe that he is being practical, If he had actually won one of the early primaries then he would have had a chance, but poor campaign management and even poorer advertising lost the day.

One Cannot Overestimate the Power of the People's News Sources

Maybe this is restating the obvious, but RP's showings in the primaries had more to do with news information/MSM than anything else. Since voters can't personally interview each candidate, they need to rely on others to obtain and disseminate this information, and hope that the information is unbiased. I would guess that the breakdown of our voting populace is as follows:

People who get their information from the internet and word-of-mouth:
Support Ron Paul - 50%
Support other candidates - 50%
People who get their information from the MSM:
Support Ron Paul - <1%
Support other candidates - >99%

Since most Americans still get their political information from the MSM, it was difficult for RP to be noticed, and when he was covered, it was through an anti-liberty filter. We do not have a "free" press; we have CFR-controlled media.

Until the free internet (especially sites like the Daily Paul and Break the Matrix) overtakes the MSM as Americans' primary source of information, we will be stuck with inferior candidates to choose from and unconstitutional laws and policies to live under. Maintaining the freedom of the internet is a critical component in our quest to restore the republic that the original American patriots founded. Without it, we will be thrust back into the Dark Ages. We need to continue to fight any internet regulation tooth and nail.

Maybe Ron Paul Did Not Want to Take the Blame for Collapse

Maybe Ron Paul has the foresight to see that the economy is collapsing, and did not want to take the blame for the way the other Presidents ran things.

nope, that's not it

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Absotively!!

I don't think the campaign had even reached it's crest yet. I think he should have stayed in as long as there were so many just discovering his message, and still donating. I am still plugging away, heartbroken, but not quitting. I can still hope and pray for a miracle. They can't take that away from me.

Vali

'...truth is loved in such a way that those who love some other thing want it to be the truth, and precisely because they do not wish to be deceived, are unwilling to be convinced that they are deceived." --- St. Augustine, Confessions (10:23), 5th c.

It is painfully clear now

that Dr. Paul never thought he would win. That is why he didn't. He never conducted his campaign TO WIN. He had (has) millions from us, he had professional ad agencies do commercials for him. He refused to spend the money and refused to air the ads. WHY?

Because he 'knew' he couldn't win. The sad fact is, the original poster is right, we had the momentum, we had the message, we had the messenger, but he wasn't in the fight to win.

While other candidates were buying up air time, RP2008 was doing what with all that money? I heard one single ad the day of our primary. ONE. You can't reach 2 million voters in my state with one single ad run only once. And I doubt it ran statewide as no one else reported it from other areas.

Maybe the good doctor knew the deck was stacked anyway and that no matter how many turned out to vote for him, the computers would still say someone else won.

Yes you hit the nail on the head!

We would not see Ron Paul as President (or even winning one single primary) with the current voting system we have in this country.

Ron Paul himself knew this as well and spoke of the vote count fraud on more than one occasion.

We really need a spokesperson to come out on the Election Reform issue before the next election or we will never have the president the people want.

I agree

There were some obvious "missed opportunities" that seem to indicate a lack of will to WIN. He continually emphasized the message, and it was good - good enough to win.

As a fellow Pennsylvanian I agree with DWBs as well as many

other posters here. Furthermore, I believe the RP presidential movement needed seasoned national professional promoters with excellent track records to head the RP campaign rather than local (district) promoters. There is at least an order of magnitude difference between the two. This would explain the lack of co-operation and communication between the RP grassroots and RP headquarters which bread much frustration and anger. Then, after seeing no inspiring campaign strategy or direction and no voice to enact real change, many supporters and DP’s finest dropped out in a surge of apathy. Therefore, selection of seasoned professionals with excellent track records is a must for all freedom loving candidates, especially when it involves a national campaign. I pray the RFR and CFL stay ahead of the curve on this one. As far as the LP is concerned, I believe there should have been a fact-finding committee established to ask a critical number of RP constituents if they would vote for Ron Paul for Congress regardless of what party he is affiliated with. Ron Paul is well known and very much supported in his huge district. I may be wrong, but I think the Texans there would vote for the candidate and not the party affiliation.

Love (consciousness) is in everything.

Three rhetorical questions.

1. If Ron Paul wasn't a registered Republican, would he even be a congressman right now?

2. Given that you have to join either the Republicans or Democrats to enter congress, wouldn't it be wise to hold the Republicans accountable to their stated agenda of limited government, free markets, low taxes and non-intervention in foreign affairs?

3. Hasn't Ron Paul's suspension of his presidential run forced Republicans to focus on the emperor-with-no-clothes, John McCain?

-"Ron Paul cured me of my predilection for Che Guevara T shirts."

fair points, but

1. there are several members in Congress who are "independent"
2. it's wishful thinking to think the GOP is going to be held accountable. By who? Ron Paul? About like Ben Bernanke's held accountable?
3. So what if the GOP is focused on McCain, he's the nominee to be. I don't think many yellow dog Republicans are going to jump ship.

Point by point.

1. How many independents out of how many in congress? How many of those independents originally ran as Republicans or Democrats, before they became independents with a "track record" in congress?

2. Holding the Republican Party accountable to its stated aims is "wishful thinking" huh? So what is your plan to restore the Republic?

3. John McCain has the word "loser" tattooed on his forehead. It might only be a minority at this stage, but won't that cause alot of Republicans to think again?

-"Ron Paul cured me of my predilection for Che Guevara T shirts."

NH was the clue

NH was the first clue and the Doc knew after the first 10 primaries. He's been at this a long, long time and I do not fault him for his decision to end his campaign. We did not and do not have enough people yet, but we will.

I disagree with those that say this is or was our 'last hope'. This whole Ron Paul revolution is an incredible leap forward in a libertarian movement that began nearly 4 decades ago. We've only just begun and we will win. Who will our presidential candidate be in 3 years? How many RP republicans, independents and libertarians will we elect in that time? I say the tide is turning BIG time. '08 may not be the fantasy election that many have dreamed about, but we are strong and will continue to fight for liberty.

i agree

And by the way things are going this election year is probably about our last to get somebody in there after another four years of mcBush administration (because the gop will cheat and win) we might not get another chance like this. Next time theyll be ready for somebody like ron paul and be able to cut them off more than they did the dr... there definetly isnt enough Paul people in congress to do anything so all the crappy laws that get offered to pass and we get mad and dont want them to there going to anyways.

Remember...What did Ron SAY???

First he said that.."Something big could happen before the Convention/Election...AND....

That he was "suspending" his campaign.

As far as I am concerned he left the door wide open

In Christ,
Dave

www.lionandlambministry.c...

www.lionandlambtv.com

"That he was "suspending"

"That he was "suspending" his campaign."

No offense, but when and where did he say that? He's sent out a lot of mixed signals, but I've never seen him use the word "suspend". Was it in a newsletter release?

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Nope

how can you say after the RNC it would be all over? The RNC and election is only the first battle of the war, it has only started, not ended!
I agree Ron Paul and the supporters are excellent, but some of the PR team not the best. If he had more professional people, it would have been better, but let us face it, it would NOT have made all the difference. The anti-war vote in the GOP is still in the minority, 25-30%?
Dr. Paul was NOT invited to the GOP convention, they chose to ignore him, but know they cannot, or will have to find out. In this situation, Dr. Paul has the right strategy to have an own campaign for liberty and convention. The ball is in the RNC's hand.
The majority in the GOP is more very impressed with McCain, to put it lightly. If McCain gets the nomination, it will not be the end of Dr. Paul. He will and is already receiving a lot more respect and admiration also in DC.

I usually just avoid commenting on these type of posts but ....

it is reached the point of complete dementia to believe RP was every going to be the Republican Nominee. ( He did not have the numbers, period.)

Ron Paul is STILL LEADING the REVOLUTION and doing one GREAT job of it. THE RALLY FOR THE REPUBLIC will be a landslide event. He won his district and is a REAL Congressman instead of a pretend Republican Presidential Candidate or 3rd party candidate who would get maybe 5% of the vote while giving up his seat in Congress to get the 5%.

Everyone who still talks about RP being president is just wasting time and NOT helping the REVOLUTION. PLEASE do something constructive like supporting RFTR or working locally with Constitutionally minded candidates for any level of office.

This REVOLUTION was NEVER about taking the Presidency in a couple of months and being done with it. That was a super long shot from day one. RP started a brush fire now it is up to us to continue to burn with the passion of our founders and carry the ball.

Ron Paul has done more in a week for the cause of Liberty than any of us have done our entire lives. SO STOP THE BITCHING AND THE SECOND GUESSING AND BS 3rd PARTY NONSENSE.

Our pro liberty movement is doing fantastic just stay focused on REAL issues and opportunities and resist the time wasters talking about how RP can still be president.

OK, while I am fired up I will make another of my opinions known: Steve Parent has a total distraction with his egomania and the BS that RP can still be president. Steve Parent is a former Democrat who has carpetbagged his way into the REVOLUTION. Same goes for many of the other self appointed disciples in this movement (you and we know who you are.) your are NOT important. Your pet pr

The Revolution was never about winning the Presidency?

Wow! I wish someone would have pointed that out earlier.

Yes, I feel he gave in too

Yes, I feel he gave in too soon and he's in the wrong party. I think that if Paul had taken the presidential nomination of the Libertarian Party, he'd be well on his way to breaking Perot's record at the ballot box in November. I don't know if it would have resulted in victory, but he would have been in the debates, because he certainly would be polling at over 15 percent now. And it would have redeemed the Libertarian Party as well, and empowered the party for future elections.

I respect his decision, and the truth is that it was a good decision from a standpoint of being a promoter of our ideas and a power broker in the next term of Congress. However, we have no presidential candidate now, and I am skeptical of the chances of the US surviving another eight years of red, white, and blue Fascism. In a very real sense the nation is already dead, because it's constitutionally dead.

As Ben Franklin said, "Where Liberty dwells, there is my country."

That isn't here anymore. We need to start preparing for the worst.

PS--Don't expect not to be called a "troll" or a "disinfo agent" for speaking the truth about Ron Paul ending his race. There's a certain contingent of people who will not accept the idea that McCain (or one of cronies) has the GOP nomination locked up until after November 2nd.

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imho

he made the 100% correct decision not to leave the GOP. You must remember that in the Lp he would have had severe opposition and criticism from certain radicals in the LP, especially on immigration, "states rights"/federalism" and the pro-life issue. In 1988 he faced huge opposition from them and you can see they have the same problems with Barr. Also, he would have had to use 500-750k of his 4,7 million only to get on the ballot and then would NOT have been able to get on the ballot in 4 or 5 states (including Texas) due to the sore loser clause, and what does it help if you cannot compete in 4 or 5 states???
If you would have accepted the LP nomination, Chris peden would have been appointed GOP candidate in TX 14 and they would have ignored Dr. Paul as LP candidate even more than he was as GOP candidate - just like they are ignoring Barr and Nader now - and after 5 November you would have heard almost NOTHING about Dr. Paul anymore. He would have been out of any power or political influence then. Or what do you think does it help to be the leader of a party that got say 15-20% of the popular vote, but having NO representation at all. Did one hear a much about Perot after the election? Also, are all the Ron Paul candidates to have switched their party affiliation from GOP to LP as well, and should he have abandoned his friends within the GOp where he still has influence? His voice cannot be ignored in DC anymore. If not before or after the RNC, I am sure the GOP can/will change to Dr. Paul's platform, especially if they suffer losses and need to reorientate themselves. The GOP has mostly a history of being a non-interventionist (anti-war/pro-security), civil liberties tradition, and will go back to that to differentiate themselves from the Dems.

Key Words: Conventional vs Revolutionary

Ron Paul is very intelligent and politically astute. He recognized and expressed that in "conventional terms" he could not be nominated. True...but...this never was a conventional campaign.

So his decision to scale back was conventional wisdom which is not sufficient to mount a revolution.

Granted, early primary results stunned fund raising velocity, but I believe Ron Paul missed an opportunity to rally more support because he allowed conventional thinking to dominate his decisions.

Maybe he didn't think our current economic affairs would come to pass so quickley to validate him and give his campaign real credibility with the masses. Right after he suspended we had huge financial disaster headlines.

My sense is he didn't want to leave the campaign in debt which would have been a real risk. Look at Hillary...huge debt.

My personal experience at that time was frustrated attempts to communicate with Ron Paul and his team. There was a shift from bottom-up to top-down communication. In spite of my having a team of people in place attempting to use their HQ contacts to get Ron Paul back on track, decisions were made to smother the fire rather than fan it. That was my experience. And it gave me a sense of doubt about Ron Paul's sincerity to "run to win".

We tried. But in the end we couldn't fund a campaign without a willing and fully committed candidate.

This was really evident (and very timely so) when we had our state primary here in Pennsylvania. Ron Paul had the best primary vote share here of any state. That in spite of the fact that we couldn't get him to come and campaign with any significance in the weeks before the primary.

Hillary and Obama were all over this state and McCain to a lesser degree, but still far more than Ron Paul. That was a huge lost opportunity for media exposure and "mind changing". A pity because we are so close to D.C. so missions would have been a quick and easy commute.

Remember, Pennsylvania had the largest rallies and even won the national Meetup contest which landed Ron Paul on Independence Mall in front of the Liberty Bell on Veterans Day weekend in Novermber. 5000 people showed-up on a chilly, rainy day.

We are where we are right now. And I have full and complete faith in the exisitng regime to burn the American people to the point that they will say enough. And while some fear it will be too late, I don't. It will be at the perfect time.

From a spiritual/quantum physics/technical point of view, I don't believe America can have any meaningful 'new beginning' until the poop of 9/11 and other political crimes issues are uncovered and dealt with.

"PunJab! Bring me my checkbook!"

I think the dreaded McCain-Feingold Act

also placed restrictions in the way the campaign and grassroots can communicate. I think I read this from Jonathan Bydlak. IMHO the campaign should have bought Dr. Paul a campaign bus so that he can travel from town to town, especially in IO and NH and it is also a "marketing tool". Dr. Paul needed some support and endorsements from other politicians, he got a few but more would have helped, but also not have made all the difference.
Ultimately there needs to be a (bigger) shock before people, the masses will act.
I think he was/is in the end realistic and the campaign is built on the last man standing philosophy and that the presumptive nominee may "selfdestruct". A lot can happen in 4 weeks and if Barr and Baldwin poll high enough in certain states so as to "ensure" McCain cannot win, it will help Dr. Paul and his nomination/influence prospects further.

with the diablod machines corrupt media propaganda

etc... I can´t see how he could have been elected...

What he is doing seems to be the only way... building from bottom up and educating the people....

In the long run the government will reflect the will of the people.. so it is imperative that this effort continues

Ofc always keep the hope, miracles do happen ^^

He "suspended" it,

not "ended" it.

The results at the convention will determine the outcome.
Nobody has "given up".

If he doesn't get the nomination, which we all suspect he will not(but are still working to try) then we move to the next phase which is being prepared by the C4L that RP founded.
You don't always win on the first try, but if you keep your nose to the grindstone and work smart, you might win eventually. In the mean-time, we make converts to the cause as rapidly as we can, to assist in the overall effort.

Actually he didn't say he

Actually he didn't say he 'suspended' it when he made the CFL announcement. I believe he said he "ended" his campaign for the GOP presidential nomination. I know he did not say "suspend".

Dr. Paul has also said, quote-unquote, "I will not be on a ticket in the Fall." That's word for word.

He has also stated--and I don't have the exact words in this case--but he has stated that he does not want to see a battle on the convention floor over McCain's delegates.

And of course, he says he will not run Third Party or Independent.

Nothing would make me happier than to see him on the ballot in November, but he is not sending out any signals to encourage that at all.

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Yes, He Did.

But I don't know the particulars of why, I heard it was so it would free him to spend on the Campaign, but I would have prefered that he kept pressing on until someone was nominated.

Maybe they were threatening to kick him out of the Republican Party unless he suspended?

Maybe something more

Maybe something more threatening than that was discussed behind the scenes.

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Right

after all, there was that trilateral meeting where they told Foley to go tell him to quit. You never know exactly what was said. Three weeks later, he suspended. Considering they would stop him anyway, maybe it wasn't worth the risk. Who knows.

With or without Dr. Paul, we have to get rid of our voting system. Have to.

Well, now that he has

Well, now that he has suspended, to me, the time is ripe for him to unsuspend. Give Americans a decent candidate to vote for. Get back into the fray. I wish he would.

hopefully...

the big announcement is "unsuspending" his candidacy for president!!!

That would be so awesome!

Just reading what you wrote put a big uncontrollable smile on my face.

This made me smile too.

Libera me, let the truth break, what my fears make--Leslie Phillips

That Would Probably Make Big News Too

It would have to, they wouldn't have a choice.

Do'nt Even say

that. Just the thought of it makes my heart race. I'm not sure I could handle it. Call 911.