The people in Denver need to unite. They need to drive the Police Chief and the mayor to absolute DISTRACTION for allowing this sort of treatment to their brothers. This is unconstitutional and just plain wrong. I know when the police here were rude to me, I called the mayor, and when the NEW mayor came in I talked to him at length. He promised the "public servants" would get much nicer, and they now are. SO even one complaint worked wonders.
These guys are goons of the first degree. Look up Ishmael Mena, and see how they treat mexicans that are here legally. Of course, those without correct papers are sheltered, Denver is called a refuge city, or something like that.
THE MORE I LEARN ABOUT GOVERNMENT
THE MORE I LOVE MY GUNS
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for those cops to have everything that they intended to have happen to the victim, happen to them, including having two teeth knocked out of the cop that slammed the victim's head into the pavement. Oh, also, the cops should personally have to pay for the victim's medical bills, and for pain and suffering.
Probably the worse thing that will happen to the cops, however, is getting fired.
Why the hell is there always such deferrel to "internal investigations" in these situations. The video does not lie. These lying asshole cops blatantly attacked this man. They should be charged with ATTEMPTED MURDER.
A rush to judgment my ass.
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Rainey, Willie: “We overplay the Black card as an issue,” he says, referring to allegations of racism in the shooting of Sean Bell. Yes they do. The problem is thuggery and gangsterism in police departments, not racism. The victim of the Stark County strip search was White. That’s how they treat everybody.
I'll add a definition about this video and link the definitions. But could someone tell me that man's name, please? The audio is poor on my laptop and all I got was his first name, John.
Thanks.
p.s. For those who haven't already guessed, "Shaka" is Victor Aguilar. I'll just speak in the first-person from now on, as talking about myself in the third-person was a bit awkward.
Rogue Police: There’s no such thing. Beating or killing innocent people and then charging them for defending themselves is standard procedure. When the FBI killed Randy Weaver’s son in an ambush, they initially charged Weaver with the murder. More recently, the Denver P.D. beat John Heaney and then charged him with assault. They would have put him in prison for three years until this video came out. For another example, see Rainey, Willie.
As citizens of the United States of America, we must understand that we are the rulers of our own lives and each of us holds sovereign rights over our bodies and liberties.
We must also understand that when police officers or government officials break the law they no longer hold any authority what so ever. In the instant they act outside the law and under color of authority or jurisdiction we have a right and duty to resist.
Below are some very interesting court decisions and legal precedents in which honorable judges and juries have found the right to resist with mortal force is the right of all free citizens.
The police departments should be made of aware of these facts. Maybe that will raise some eyebrows instead of lethal tasers.
"Citizens may resist unlawful arrest to the point of taking an arresting officer's life if necessary.” Plummer v. State, 136 Ind. 306. This premise was upheld by the Supreme Court of the United States in the case: John Bad Elk v. U.S., 177 U.S. 529. The Court stated: “Where the officer is killed in the course of the disorder which naturally accompanies an attempted arrest that is resisted, the law looks with very different eyes upon the transaction, when the officer had the right to make the arrest, from what it does if the officer had no right. What may be murder in the first case might be nothing more than manslaughter in the other, or the facts might show that no offense had been committed.”
“An arrest made with a defective warrant, or one issued without affidavit, or one that fails to allege a crime is within jurisdiction, and one who is being arrested, may resist arrest and break away. lf the arresting officer is killed by one who is so resisting, the killing will be no more than an involuntary manslaughter.” Housh v. People, 75 111. 491; reaffirmed and quoted in State v. Leach, 7 Conn. 452; State v. Gleason, 32 Kan. 245; Ballard v. State, 43 Ohio 349; State v Rousseau, 241 P. 2d 447; State v. Spaulding, 34 Minn. 3621.
“When a person, being without fault, is in a place where he has a right to be, is violently assaulted, he may, without retreating, repel by force, and if, in the reasonable exercise of his right of self defense, his assailant is killed, he is justified.” Runyan v. State, 57 Ind. 80; Miller v. State, 74 Ind. 1.
“These principles apply as well to an officer attempting to make an arrest, who abuses his authority and transcends the bounds thereof by the use of unnecessary force and violence, as they do to a private individual who unlawfully uses such force and violence.” Jones v. State, 26 Tex. App. I; Beaverts v. State, 4 Tex. App. 1 75; Skidmore v. State, 43 Tex. 93, 903.
“An illegal arrest is an assault and battery. The person so attempted to be restrained of his liberty has the same right to use force in defending himself as he would in repelling any other assault and battery.” (State v. Robinson, 145 ME. 77, 72 ATL. 260).
“Each person has the right to resist an unlawful arrest. In such a case, the person attempting the arrest stands in the position of a wrongdoer and may be resisted by the use of force, as in self- defense.” (State v. Mobley, 240 N.C. 476, 83 S.E. 2d 100).
“One may come to the aid of another being unlawfully arrested, just as he may where one is being assaulted, molested, raped or kidnapped. Thus it is not an offense to liberate one from the unlawful custody of an officer, even though he may have submitted to such custody, without resistance.” (Adams v. State, 121 Ga. 16, 48 S.E. 910).
“Story affirmed the right of self-defense by persons held illegally. In his own writings, he had admitted that ‘a situation could arise in which the checks-and-balances principle ceased to work and the various branches of government concurred in a gross usurpation.’ There would be no usual remedy by changing the law or passing an amendment to the Constitution, should the oppressed party be a minority. Story concluded, ‘If there be any remedy at all ... it is a remedy never provided for by human institutions.’ That was the ‘ultimate right of all human beings in extreme cases to resist oppression, and to apply force against ruinous injustice.’” (From Mutiny on the Amistad by Howard Jones, Oxford University Press, 1987, an account of the reading of the decision in the case by Justice Joseph Story of the Supreme Court.
As for grounds for arrest: “The carrying of arms in a quiet, peaceable, and orderly manner, concealed on or about the person, is not a breach of the peace. Nor does such an act of itself, lead to a breach of the peace.” (Wharton’s Criminal and Civil Procedure, 12th Ed., Vol.2: Judy v. Lashley, 5 W. Va. 628, 41 S.E. 197)ot be televised... It will be downloaded!!!
Excellent documentation. You, sir, if a lawyer, are one of the good ones (there are some). This confirms something I had long held as truth, but it is so nice to see it documented. Thanks again for posting this. It is posts like this that keep me coming back. Well done. And if you are not a Freemason, you should be.
Freemason.. No sir. I am just a rocker that comes form a gang infested neighborhood. Now it seems the police are the gangsters we must be weary of. My parents left the prison island of Cuba to give me an opportunity to live in freedom. I'll be damned if I'm going to sit idly by and watch our nation devolve into a police state. I have family in Cuba fighting for freedom, ironically I find myself here fighting for liberty as well.
My downfall was reading the Constitution 13 years ago when a "judge" told me ignorance of the law was no excuse. That's when I fell into this rabbit hole called the Freedom Movement.
I had to try understand why localities and states are acting in ways contrary to the Constitution. I realize now, that most is courts and their jurisdictions are not lawful but just a giant extortion apparatus.
Resistance is not futile!
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The American Revolution 2.0 will not be televised... It will be downloaded!!!
Sorry, didn't mean to give away the ending.. but it's true. The internal investigation will show that the cops did nothing wrong, they operated within the limits of the law.
Didn't you know that's how the outcome of investigations of yourself are? Just look at that police chief. To say they did something wrong would be a rush to judgement? He's viewed the video, which clearly shows wrongdoing, and he won't even say that they should not have slammed his face into the ground. And he won't ever say that either.
I tell you what, I am so glad I stopped watching the show COPS in a way that had me worshiping the cops and always hating the bad guys. I still watch the show, mostly to allow me to see how different things can happen. It helps you be alert to the dangers you may face. Cars driving crazy running from cops, etc. It allows me to understand what may happen, how it may happen, and learn to lookout for it and be prepared. But I don't watch it now thinking the cops are always right no matter what they do.
The more I watch REAL news taken by civilians, the less I trust the police. I never thought I would ever feel that way. I will show respect to the police when required, but I refuse to look to them for safety anymore. Time and time again, it has been shown that you are not always safe when you are in the hands of the police. That's sad that most of the country cannot see that. Oh well, one day the chickens will come home to roost and it will be those sheep being targeted by out of control cops.
Even after the internal investigation finds no wrongdoing, which is most likely, the officers can be charged with perjury. Eyewitness and video testimony has already proven it wrong. Just depends how honest the DA is. We all the the guilty will probably go without punishment, it is part of living in a fascist society.
The battle today is not between conservatives and liberals or Republicans and Democrats. It is a battle between Americans and globalists. ~ Chuck Baldwin
They're just your average police who just happen to get caught on tape.
And no, so called "good cops" have the pack mentality and though they may be less brutal, they know that when they blow their lid they are going to need their more vicious brethren to cover for them.
Welcome to the modern police state -- get up against the wall and spread your legs so we can knock your teeth the **** out.
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The people in Denver need to
The people in Denver need to unite. They need to drive the Police Chief and the mayor to absolute DISTRACTION for allowing this sort of treatment to their brothers. This is unconstitutional and just plain wrong. I know when the police here were rude to me, I called the mayor, and when the NEW mayor came in I talked to him at length. He promised the "public servants" would get much nicer, and they now are. SO even one complaint worked wonders.
Have fun protestors...
These guys are goons of the first degree. Look up Ishmael Mena, and see how they treat mexicans that are here legally. Of course, those without correct papers are sheltered, Denver is called a refuge city, or something like that.
THE MORE I LEARN ABOUT GOVERNMENT
THE MORE I LOVE MY GUNS
FourWindsTradingPost
Justice would be
for those cops to have everything that they intended to have happen to the victim, happen to them, including having two teeth knocked out of the cop that slammed the victim's head into the pavement. Oh, also, the cops should personally have to pay for the victim's medical bills, and for pain and suffering.
Probably the worse thing that will happen to the cops, however, is getting fired.
BS
Why the hell is there always such deferrel to "internal investigations" in these situations. The video does not lie. These lying asshole cops blatantly attacked this man. They should be charged with ATTEMPTED MURDER.
A rush to judgment my ass.
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I've addressed this issue
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Rainey, Willie: “We overplay the Black card as an issue,” he says, referring to allegations of racism in the shooting of Sean Bell. Yes they do. The problem is thuggery and gangsterism in police departments, not racism. The victim of the Stark County strip search was White. That’s how they treat everybody.
I'll add a definition about this video and link the definitions. But could someone tell me that man's name, please? The audio is poor on my laptop and all I got was his first name, John.
Thanks.
p.s. For those who haven't already guessed, "Shaka" is Victor Aguilar. I'll just speak in the first-person from now on, as talking about myself in the third-person was a bit awkward.
Stark County strip search
In this definition, I want to make "Stark County strip search" a link to the video about that incident.
Could someone please post that link?
Thank you.
done deal
Rogue Police: There’s no such thing. Beating or killing innocent people and then charging them for defending themselves is standard procedure. When the FBI killed Randy Weaver’s son in an ambush, they initially charged Weaver with the murder. More recently, the Denver P.D. beat John Heaney and then charged him with assault. They would have put him in prison for three years until this video came out. For another example, see Rainey, Willie.
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John Heaney
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"I killed the banks"
OMG...
They broke his teeth! They broke his teeth! They should be arrested and jailed.
Sorry but...,
I hope they hang.
"I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever." - Thomas Jefferson
everyday
i get more and more disgusted with the things going on in this country. makes me want to puke
They might have broken the law?
Assaulting a citizen for no reason, then charging him with a crime, then lying under oath... That sounds like at least 10 years
Mike
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Citizens do have a right to resist with FORCE!
As citizens of the United States of America, we must understand that we are the rulers of our own lives and each of us holds sovereign rights over our bodies and liberties.
We must also understand that when police officers or government officials break the law they no longer hold any authority what so ever. In the instant they act outside the law and under color of authority or jurisdiction we have a right and duty to resist.
Below are some very interesting court decisions and legal precedents in which honorable judges and juries have found the right to resist with mortal force is the right of all free citizens.
The police departments should be made of aware of these facts. Maybe that will raise some eyebrows instead of lethal tasers.
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"Citizens may resist unlawful arrest to the point of taking an arresting officer's life if necessary.” Plummer v. State, 136 Ind. 306. This premise was upheld by the Supreme Court of the United States in the case: John Bad Elk v. U.S., 177 U.S. 529. The Court stated: “Where the officer is killed in the course of the disorder which naturally accompanies an attempted arrest that is resisted, the law looks with very different eyes upon the transaction, when the officer had the right to make the arrest, from what it does if the officer had no right. What may be murder in the first case might be nothing more than manslaughter in the other, or the facts might show that no offense had been committed.”
“An arrest made with a defective warrant, or one issued without affidavit, or one that fails to allege a crime is within jurisdiction, and one who is being arrested, may resist arrest and break away. lf the arresting officer is killed by one who is so resisting, the killing will be no more than an involuntary manslaughter.” Housh v. People, 75 111. 491; reaffirmed and quoted in State v. Leach, 7 Conn. 452; State v. Gleason, 32 Kan. 245; Ballard v. State, 43 Ohio 349; State v Rousseau, 241 P. 2d 447; State v. Spaulding, 34 Minn. 3621.
“When a person, being without fault, is in a place where he has a right to be, is violently assaulted, he may, without retreating, repel by force, and if, in the reasonable exercise of his right of self defense, his assailant is killed, he is justified.” Runyan v. State, 57 Ind. 80; Miller v. State, 74 Ind. 1.
“These principles apply as well to an officer attempting to make an arrest, who abuses his authority and transcends the bounds thereof by the use of unnecessary force and violence, as they do to a private individual who unlawfully uses such force and violence.” Jones v. State, 26 Tex. App. I; Beaverts v. State, 4 Tex. App. 1 75; Skidmore v. State, 43 Tex. 93, 903.
“An illegal arrest is an assault and battery. The person so attempted to be restrained of his liberty has the same right to use force in defending himself as he would in repelling any other assault and battery.” (State v. Robinson, 145 ME. 77, 72 ATL. 260).
“Each person has the right to resist an unlawful arrest. In such a case, the person attempting the arrest stands in the position of a wrongdoer and may be resisted by the use of force, as in self- defense.” (State v. Mobley, 240 N.C. 476, 83 S.E. 2d 100).
“One may come to the aid of another being unlawfully arrested, just as he may where one is being assaulted, molested, raped or kidnapped. Thus it is not an offense to liberate one from the unlawful custody of an officer, even though he may have submitted to such custody, without resistance.” (Adams v. State, 121 Ga. 16, 48 S.E. 910).
“Story affirmed the right of self-defense by persons held illegally. In his own writings, he had admitted that ‘a situation could arise in which the checks-and-balances principle ceased to work and the various branches of government concurred in a gross usurpation.’ There would be no usual remedy by changing the law or passing an amendment to the Constitution, should the oppressed party be a minority. Story concluded, ‘If there be any remedy at all ... it is a remedy never provided for by human institutions.’ That was the ‘ultimate right of all human beings in extreme cases to resist oppression, and to apply force against ruinous injustice.’” (From Mutiny on the Amistad by Howard Jones, Oxford University Press, 1987, an account of the reading of the decision in the case by Justice Joseph Story of the Supreme Court.
As for grounds for arrest: “The carrying of arms in a quiet, peaceable, and orderly manner, concealed on or about the person, is not a breach of the peace. Nor does such an act of itself, lead to a breach of the peace.” (Wharton’s Criminal and Civil Procedure, 12th Ed., Vol.2: Judy v. Lashley, 5 W. Va. 628, 41 S.E. 197)ot be televised... It will be downloaded!!!
My husband needs to see this! Thank you very much!
I wish we had known this several months ago!
Libera me, let the truth break, what my fears make--Leslie Phillips
Bravo!! Thanks for posting this. Very educational. A must read.
Excellent documentation. You, sir, if a lawyer, are one of the good ones (there are some). This confirms something I had long held as truth, but it is so nice to see it documented. Thanks again for posting this. It is posts like this that keep me coming back. Well done. And if you are not a Freemason, you should be.
I'm just a concerned citizen...
Freemason.. No sir. I am just a rocker that comes form a gang infested neighborhood. Now it seems the police are the gangsters we must be weary of. My parents left the prison island of Cuba to give me an opportunity to live in freedom. I'll be damned if I'm going to sit idly by and watch our nation devolve into a police state. I have family in Cuba fighting for freedom, ironically I find myself here fighting for liberty as well.
My downfall was reading the Constitution 13 years ago when a "judge" told me ignorance of the law was no excuse. That's when I fell into this rabbit hole called the Freedom Movement.
I had to try understand why localities and states are acting in ways contrary to the Constitution. I realize now, that most is courts and their jurisdictions are not lawful but just a giant extortion apparatus.
Resistance is not futile!
...........................................................................................................
The American Revolution 2.0 will not be televised... It will be downloaded!!!
these aren't rogue cops...
this is the accepted behavior of a police state enforcer (we won't have humane police until we have humane laws)...
The cops did nothing wrong!
Sorry, didn't mean to give away the ending.. but it's true. The internal investigation will show that the cops did nothing wrong, they operated within the limits of the law.
Didn't you know that's how the outcome of investigations of yourself are? Just look at that police chief. To say they did something wrong would be a rush to judgement? He's viewed the video, which clearly shows wrongdoing, and he won't even say that they should not have slammed his face into the ground. And he won't ever say that either.
I tell you what, I am so glad I stopped watching the show COPS in a way that had me worshiping the cops and always hating the bad guys. I still watch the show, mostly to allow me to see how different things can happen. It helps you be alert to the dangers you may face. Cars driving crazy running from cops, etc. It allows me to understand what may happen, how it may happen, and learn to lookout for it and be prepared. But I don't watch it now thinking the cops are always right no matter what they do.
The more I watch REAL news taken by civilians, the less I trust the police. I never thought I would ever feel that way. I will show respect to the police when required, but I refuse to look to them for safety anymore. Time and time again, it has been shown that you are not always safe when you are in the hands of the police. That's sad that most of the country cannot see that. Oh well, one day the chickens will come home to roost and it will be those sheep being targeted by out of control cops.
Perjury.
Even after the internal investigation finds no wrongdoing, which is most likely, the officers can be charged with perjury. Eyewitness and video testimony has already proven it wrong. Just depends how honest the DA is. We all the the guilty will probably go without punishment, it is part of living in a fascist society.
That is unbelievably sad.
The battle today is not between conservatives and liberals or Republicans and Democrats. It is a battle between Americans and globalists. ~ Chuck Baldwin
Sadly these weren't "rogue cops"
They're just your average police who just happen to get caught on tape.
And no, so called "good cops" have the pack mentality and though they may be less brutal, they know that when they blow their lid they are going to need their more vicious brethren to cover for them.
Welcome to the modern police state -- get up against the wall and spread your legs so we can knock your teeth the **** out.
Learn hand to hand self defense
And use it when necessary, regardless of who the attacker is.
I concur..
Self-defense is no vice..
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The American Revolution 2.0 will not be televised... It will be downloaded!!!
Love it! Good Job!
Keepin' it reaul.
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