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as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD

Silver is silver whatever is stamped on it, paper is paper no matter what is printed on it.

Perhaps Sierrah can back me up, but for anyone who has property for raising cattle or farming, like he does and I do. Silver is just as good as gambling on the price of beef, and it doesn't have to be feed, given shots, pass inspection and all the other demands of caring for an animal. For farmers who plant corn, wheat or other cash crops, the gamble is the same, and silver or gold are a good store of wealth since you don't have to worry about mildew, pests or leaking roofs.
So my point is for those who have gold and silver, and want to stock up on food, or just trade for monthly needs; farmers are a good outlet to trade your silver and gold. Why go through the money changers? In fact many farmers may prefer to sell you land with a land contract in exchange for gold or silver than to have to deal with FRNs. I know I would.
Let's see, I'll sell you 40 acres of farm land for $20,000 which is around 25 gold ounces at today's rate. 5 gold ounce pieces as a down payment, and I'll even give you a fixed rate of 10% interest to be paid over the next 7 years. But you have to pay me in gold pieces (20 plus interest), not FRNs or paper.
grant

Here's a question for those of you who know better than myself. I've been buying silver in mostly 1 oz bars and rounds. Often, one of my dealers, and it just so happens he is the one who gives me the best deal, often has little to offer me but the 1 oz rectangular bars that have christmas ornamentation on them, or peoples names stamped on them, or any one of a dozen other motif's that I find aethetically undesireable. Can anyone tell me if there is any reason whatsoever for me to avoid purchasing such silver. After all, it does all say .999 fine. Am I being too picky? I'm starting to think so, but just want some confirmation to help adjust my thinking.

Things are only impossible until they are not.
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read this if you think silver will still keep going down much further.. anything is possible but I jhust don't see silver going down much more..
for those who think the eirozone economy will race past the US economy on the way down this is intersting reading!

http://jsmineset.com/

as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD

Take your own advice, don't be so sure until you try. I am talking about local use for goods and services. Local farmers if that is possible, I know in my area it is common for farmers to barter goods already. My family used to raise grapes, strawberries and flowers and take them down to farmer's market in Detroit to sell to the public. However FRNs were rarely used between farmers because we would simply trade our grapes for the products we didn't grow or other goods we needed. It was also common to pay stock boys with our product as well. They were happy and we were happy. Silver being that it is a store of wealth can come in handy in the similar situations.

at a local coin shop for $14.50 each (1 oz)...they still have junk silver, too....has the market opened up yet, or are others still having trouble securing silver???

Sell your silver mining stock, paper silver Etfs and certificates. Get Physical possession of silver. Why would anyone in their right mind want to invest in a mining company, which is going to produce more silver, when you want the value of silver to increase, duh.
grant

By beginning to spend the silver you have on goods and services, you are spreading out the silver and getting it into more hands. This requires silver dealers to have to find new sources to buy from rather than just acting as middlemen between a buyer and a seller.

According to Article 1,Section 10,Paragraph 1, Clause 5 there shall be No Legal Tender but Gold or Silver.
Start using your silver for purchasing local goods and services. It is a protected right by the Constitution and it teaches people to trade 'good' money instead of bad. If good money is used again, it will drive out bad money. You don't have to accept FRN's according to the Constitution and you don't even have to accept them according to current legal tender law unless someone is in debt to you. You never have to accept FRNs if you require payment up front. In fact as a businessman I would consider offering a discount if someone was to pay me in silver as opposed to FRNs.
grant
Imagine if you go to your local market and you have silver in your pocket worth $13 dollars and you offer to pay the person you buy your vegetables from in an ounce of silver or $13 in FRN's. Of course if the person is educated they will accept the ounce of silver and probably even consider a discount for the real money. They will in turn will either store some of it, which will increase the value of your silver or he will go to his barber and offer him an ounce of silver for a $20 haircut. He probably willl accept it and then either save it or take it to his dentist and offer him a similar deal. If enough people get involved, then who in their right mind would accept FRN's, and they would be less desired on the market. In fact the more people get involved and start using silver then there will be an increase in value of silver over the FRNs. The only time you would want to have FRNs is to pay your taxes, an with an excess on the market, because silver had replaced them, you could easily find enough of them and pay the Federal government. You are not doing anything illegal, the Fed is the one that inflates and then steals our property.
grant

Zeitgeist question i have posed to him several times, i wonder what he is afraid of? You may continue to ignore my request and that is ok but im not going away!

Wisdom from reflection - as when the Moon speaks to the waves of the sea. Yeah I'm way out there.

FRN are not Constitutional, trading in silver coins is. If people begin to trade in silver coins or for that matter even modern coin, since they are good for making change. Don't accept paper. Sure it requires a little work, but it will pay off in the end. I go to my local farmer's market. I trade silver coins and can always get a better deal than if I was to pay with FRN's. People will always accept something of real value as opposed to fiat money. It is called gresham's law.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gresham's_Law
We need to use good money again and I guarentee it will buy you more for your buck.
grant

If more people start trading gold and silver for local goods and services, then more FRNs will be necessary for the purchase of other commodities. The NWO can't work on a gold and silver system because they can't keep track of all transactions this way. To be off the grid means not to use FRNs. They are useless paper that steals from the people. How many people have lost their homes because of the manipulation of the dollar. Sure the government will spend money FRNs but it will be taking on more debt and paying interest to foreign central banks who have been stocking up on the dollar and not spending it on your local goods and services.
grant

I would get out of the mining stocks and certificates and get ahold of you silver and gold. Mining stock is not the same as physically holding the product. Many things can go wrong, For example, government delays mining permits, workers go on strike, environmentalists protest production (Gold mining releases arsenic into the environment). Physically held gold or silver can be traded for local goods and services. Start doing so and teach people to use and save real money. Don't hold it in the bank. Who is to say Comex warehouse won't have their warehouse invaded by the government as has happened in the past.
grant

10 am ET Monday: Just bought 400 oz ( 1 oz. coins) silver for $5,842 delivered. Goes out the door first thing Tuesday.
If the company proves out they also have plenty of gold goins in stock.

So there are dealers that have stock on hand.

But I admit that they have about a 2 month delay on metals that are on order.

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