Why I MIGHT have To Vote For McCain

It's Ron Paul or bust!!!!

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"Truth is treason in the Empire of Lies."

not agree with you dude!
Thats the same propaganda B.S. train they are running and your running down the station trying to jump aboard.
If your a McCain supporter coming on here making it seem like your a Dr. Paul supporter, than you got another thing comin' there guy!
We are not going to give in to McShitstain McCain, we are not weak minded, and it took us a awhile to get here and it will not be unhinged for just "well, do we really want this or that to happen!?!?!"

Kiss your ass good bye!!

"Observe the masses,and do the opposite."

Remember when McCain called RP an appeaser to hitler in a debate? Remember that look on his face? McCain is smiling right now and thanking you for your vote.

If you still think your vote counts, then you have a long way to go before understanding what's really going on. For years, (and probably decades) our 'presidents' have been pre- chosen, and are bought and paid for long before people waste their time punching buttons on a "liebold" machine. Until we use paper ballots, counted by hand, in public, we will get who the Bildibergs and CFR ass-clowns put on the throne.

Here's something to think about from Prison Planet:

"The Daily Show live from the White House

The Bush Regime imbeciles don't know when to stop. With the world still rolling in laughter from John McCain's claim that "in the 21st century nations don't invade other nations," the moronic US secretary of state declared: "This is not 1968 and the invasion of Czechoslovakia, where Russia can threaten a neighbor, occupy a capital, overthrow a government and get away with it. Things have changed."

This from Condi Rice who is "proud" of the Bush Regime's invasion of Iraq.

This is not 1968. It is 40 years later, and roles have reversed. In the 21st century it is the United States that invades countries, occupies capitals, overthrows governments, and gets away with it.

The criminal Bush Regime has sent out its flunkies to huff and puff because Russia put its foot down against American hegemony on its border. Take your aggression elsewhere, the Russians said. We did not free constituent parts of our empire in order for them to become constituent parts of an American empire.

For years the Bush Regime has been fodder for the Daily Show. Condi Rice's inane statement will keep the laughter rolling."

Apparently, this type of foriegn policy is unacceptable unless WE are the ones doing it. The Bush regime's hypocracy is only surpassed by its hypocracy.

Doc Holladay
Nashville, TN
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Until libertarians, republicans, and patriots overwhelmingly vote against the Demoblican Phony Choice, we'll get more of the same.

Give Me Liberty or Give Me Gridlock

Now there something I can get excited about - voting for the guy who wants to re-start the cold war with Russia - Great idea! - And to quote you Mr. Cantor "I sincerely believe that an Obama presidency COULD be the end of the world." I think it is equally likely with McCain at the helm. - While I agree with you that Obama could ruin the country - I just see McCain as an equally bad option, so - I am still holding out for a Ron Paul miracle at the convention, and failing that will vote in protest for Bob Barr - Maybe the Republican Party will realize the errors of its ways and win me back in four years. Maybe.

tells me to.

P.S. - It won't be a vote for McCain.

I'm voting for Ron Paul, via absentee write in. That's the only way for me.

If I had to pick...I would really have a tough time doing so. It's a question of would you like to expand our empire (McCain) or would you like to extend our welfare state (Obama).

Would we like to completely burn our image around the world and get one step closer to becoming the evil empire everyone hates.... (McCain)

Or...would we like to promise hundreds of millions of Americans that we will pay their doctor bills forever, along with feeding them if they don't want to work, promising to feed them in their old age. (Obama)

That's why I choose to "waste" my vote on someone I really think would help our country...because I wouldn't know which of these two yahoo's are the lesser of two evils.

Vote your conscience in November. I guess if I were forced to choose, I'd take BHO, but only because I really don't want to see more American kids die in the desert, and don't want to see millions of people in Iran get bombed to death.

Remember folks...it took 4 years of Jimmy Carter to make America think that Ronald Reagan might just be electable after all. Maybe 4 years of socialist collectivism and disrespect for the free market will make Americans realize that there's a better choice.

even if he was running against Hilter

If you vote for McCain or Obama because you have no other choice, it will appear that they have real support from the people. If you can write in Ron Paul do it; or if no other choice vote for the most conservative 3rd party that reflects your ideas. Imagine, if McCain gets 33% of the vote, Obama gets 32% of the vote and the other parties collectively get the balance, than neither one could claim that they got even close to a majority of the support from the American public.
grant

if youre going to try to rationalize your way into swinging a vote for mccain because you think obama would bring doomsday, here of all places, you might as well be taking a big dump on the faces of all of us who are willing to sacrifice our vote to write in a candidate, support a third party candidate or otherwise stick it to the two party machine by somehow voting 'no fucking thank you'.

If we're going to be brutally honest here (*looks around*) it is this very exact rationale by which the average american voter presents themselves with which enslaves them to the very two party machine we're all so desperate to defeat. And as such, following through with your rationale would make you no less ignorant of a voter as the droves of people who think mccain knows more about economics than an earthworm, or are voting for obama because he doesnt like offshore drilling or any of the other pointless, baseless conceptions by which people choose their media inflated, party boss elected republo-cratic candidates election year after election year after freaking election year.

the worlds gonna end if obama is elected president? i thought people in this forum were a little smarter than this as to be so naive to think that any one party propped candidate is any better or worse than the next.

but a vote for mccain is a vote to approve and legitimize

the patriot act
unconstitutional wars
preemptive wars
neocon agenda

just to name a few...

Anyone that would vote McCain after all we have gone through deserves what he gets. I for one would never ever think such a thought. I won't tell you what to do but when things go south I wouldn't want my name associated with a vote for McShame. Viva La Revolution

Principle would involve you not voting for McSame.

seriously, what?

~peace

You've got to be kidding me. McCain is worst than bush and has almost the complete opposite platform to Ron Paul. Ron Paul HIMSELF said Obama has a closer stance to him.

McCain will only take us into another war with Iran, destroy the economy and see through the end of the United States of America.

...for deciding to vote for what you feel to be the lesser of two evils they've decided they can trust to continue to screw us over.

You want to be an asshat? Go ahead and vote for 'the lesser of two evils'. Why don't you make your vote count instead?

Many people who are supporting McCain are doing so not because they like McCain but because they are Republicans and they do not want the Democrat to win.

I've had many people tell me through the course of discussion that they don't understand why the GOP passed on other much better candidates, but nonetheless they will be voting for McCain to support the Republican side.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out this next part.... Go on YouTube and you will find videos of thousands of people who say they are voting for Obama because he is black. Black is the reason for supporting him for many people who got on camera. It's nothing to do with his policies for them. Without a doubt, there are just as many or more people who will be voting for McCain in order to vote against the 'black' candidate. For many this election will be as simple as black/white.

For me, I absolutely and most definitely will not be voting for Obama. I believe he is the greater of the evils. I really don't want to support McCain, either, but I might. Baldwin and Barr really have very little going for them IMO. They might be more like RP, but they simply do not have that same *fire* in their hearts or maybe it is our hearts that is the problem. The only chance Barr or Baldwin have in gaining the support of the majority of our revolution would be via endorsement from Ron Paul. Until that time I'm thinking that I might be cringing at the polls in November, sick to my stomach that I voted for McCain, the lesser of the evils, so that the greater evil did not get elected.

What I find most hilarious in your post is that you threw Hussein in there for effect.

Sure, you'll claim that you didn't. "Hey, that's just his name."

Yeah, right.

In my experience so far, those who mention the "Hussein" part, are invariably thinking that his name has something to do with him not being electable. You're part of the roughly 10-12% of people who think that he's a muslim and "oh, you can't trust muslims because of 9/11....yadayada"

Go ahead, keep discriminating for the dumbest of reasons. Stick to the issues, like the rest of your post.

are not related to Eric Cantor?
Voting for McCain would be just as a mistake as voting form Obama. If you vote fir McCain, the message that you send is that you agree with his basic policies, wars and more wars, amnesty etc. Think about it, is there not already a mixed economy and sort of socialism?
Vote the direction you think the GOP should go into. So if Barr and/or Baldwin fares reasonably, the message to the GOP would be to abandon the neocons and move towards Dr. Paul.

Also, Obama would not be able to do so much. As commanders he has to make decisions about the military. It would really not be so bad under Obama, in any case not in the first two years (different than McCain) and if it is worse economically then, then it is all the more easy to get a GOP win of congress and senate in 2010 and then Obama's hands are tied. He would NOT be able to do irresponsible things. Also, if the Dems do not get 60 senators (or more), the Republicans can still fillibuster legislation by liberal Democrats and Obama.
The next two years will in any case be very difficult, regardless who wins.
If McCain wins, there is less likelyhood that the GOP can take control of the senate/house in 2010. Remember, there could even be a scandal or some revelation (Rezko etc.) that can lead to an impeachment of Obama. Think about it....

Pick the best candidate, the one you consider to be the most qualified to lead the country, and vote for that person. Yes, it is that simple. If that person does not win, it is not your fault. You did your duty. But don't vote for McCain because you are in fear of Obama. For all intents and purposes, Obama and McCain are conjoined twins. They both feed off of the CFR and Trilateral Comm. There is no difference between the two. Vote as if your soul depends upon it, because it does.

Do whatever you like, but I never have and I never will vote for somebody just to keep somebody else from winning. I personally think that would just be stupid. It's tacit approval, and until I'm offered a candidate I can feel good about voting for (like Paul), I'm not ever voting for either of these idiots or any of the other morons that they offer up for my approval for the destruction of my country.
www.paulforronpaul.com

Now get lost!

"Whenever I despair, I remember that the way of truth and love has always won. There may be tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they may seem invincible, but in the end, they always fail. Think of it: always"
Gandhi

Who cares about which one of those turds win... Do you have respect for your beliefs?

www.ronpaul2008.com

There is life at the end of the tunnel my friends!

Your vote doesn't count.

That is the problem.

Your vote doesn't matter because someone has already hand-picked the next president (with a lower-case "p").

McCain and Obama (along with others) are putting on this farce of a race. I'm pretty sure both of them already know who's going to win.

And now... On to the next distraction!

It's kind of funny, I feel about McCain the way Cantor43 feels about Obama, but I couldn't vote for either.

If you genuinely believe the election of Obama will result in the world coming to an end in the next four years, you probably should vote for McCain.

Otherwise, while your vote may prove irrelevant to the outcome of this election, it will, absolutely 100 percent for sure, be scrutinized by GOP strategists trying to figure out where the missing votes that would have enabled them to defeat Obama went. Let them find them cast for a candidate whose platform is much closer to Ron Paul’s than McCain’s is. Then they’ll know what to do to get your help defeating Obama next time.

They are both going to do what the elites tell them to do. Both will be bad for business, bad for personal liberty, bad for America.

You guys are still playing the 'this democrat is better than that republican' crap or 'my republican can beat up your democrat' sh*t.

After all this time and all you know you still can't figure out there is no difference between them? Obama's against the war? McCain's for lower taxes? What are you folks smoking?

If you believe that either candidate is going to 'change' anything of consequence if they reach the office, you're all delusional. I thought better of Daily Paul'rs. Where's the solidarity? Where's your balls?

RP remains the only 'change' candidate because he was going to change the status quo. The only change you'll have with either of these two monkeys is what remains in your pocket after they tax the living sh*t out of you.

What you should be doing is figuring out what you're going to do if RP does not get into office, cause there's a shitstorm comin' very soon after.

I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...

Matter....watch....McCain will win.....mark my word......

Here are my thoughts...personally.......

#1 I am 100% for Ron Paul and his ideals.......but if you force me to choose....here is how it lays out for me.....and me only!!

Don't get me wrong..........I am 100% RP but you put a gun to my head...this is how it plays out..

Obama.....Great Speaker, and I do believe he honestly wants to change this country.....well...for me...it is going to be for the worse. He is going to crush ME on taxes.....and come after me in Costa Rica. Democrats always go after "ExPats" just like Clinton tried to do. Democrats are always for taking from the people who have made it....and stripping them of their wealth and handing it out freely to the poor.

Well, we all want to be rich...Right? We all work for it? Right? Well, what if you get their? Do you want it stripped from you??

I am not saying I am rich....but I am working my ass off to get their......why take from me because I work 10 times harder and smarter then the average Bonehead?

McCain.....well, he will stick to the Bush Doctrine, Lower Taxes for people with money (which I am working toward)...will not come after people leaving the country, but he will keep these perpetual wars going on forever.............

It is so tough...........Personally.....If I did not give a SH*T I would vote McCain....but I do care......so then I would have to vote Obama....because on a worldwide view...maybe we can get some respect back.....I will give up some of my $$$ to help the poor if Obama tries to do what is right,....

Do you see what a crock of SH*T this whole election is.....?????

2-Dirt bags again.......

Ron Paul.....the Dream Candidate sent from above.....and I mean he would be "Gods" Choice!

And this is the one I would side with.......

I don't care about your beliefs.......and if anybody bitches about religion...I am just telling you what "I THINK".

We in America were sent Ron Paul by a higher power(My Opinion)....and I think this nation is so lost....we missed our chance!! SAD!!

Just my 2 cents