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Warning: Lew Moore is being paid by McCain folks now

I have received information from multiple sources that Lew Moore is being paid by the McCain folks to keep the Ron Paul people quiet at the convention. Apparently he is also asking for delegate names and of course that information should not be given to him.

I will let those sources who wish to confirm do so, but suffice it to say that grassroots politics 101 says that you don't provide lists and information without a high level of trust and reciprocal information and a clear understanding of the appropriate uses of the information.

Information is best kept local and the grassroots in control.

http://www.ronpaulforums....

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Cat got your tongue, Lex??

Are we to assume you had no source information for this post, or...?

"Truth is an absolute defense to the charge of paranoia."

LexSentry

I can't imagine you would not be monitoring such a popular thread that you started.

I need to hear more about your evidence that Lew Moore is getting money from the McCain camp before fully siding with that statement.

"Truth is an absolute defense to the charge of paranoia."

We should never let a cry of "racism"

squash legitimate criticism

Pokerface warned us about Pokerface

Remember their blog? What kind of a racist rant was that?

Don't you dis Pokerface

They're awesome..and you're not.

Sandra - you are the racist twit

You come on the DP to constantly attack others.
Never adding anything to the discussion. Always accusing people of one thing or another.
Have you taken a good look in the mirror lately woman.

The DP and The RPFs would be better off if you just left.

You are NOT a Ron Paul supporter.

You are a divider and an agent provacateur.

Who pays your salary to monitor Ron Paul forums?

Did you get slapped by the mods or something?

Don't blame me. Link to any racist slant I have said, please

Why link to a racist slant.

When we can just link to your book... Hey why don't you pay for advertising space instead of waste precious thread space. I'm sure Micheal would have no problem with you paying for advertising space instead of mooching it.

Show me

the book

You have added nothing to this discussion

What the *expletive* is your problem? This thread is full of well presented thoughts regarding a justified concern. The only thing you have added is questioning people's length of membership and getting into a "yes you did - no I didn't" argument with Steve Martin without addressing a single issue he or anyone else has raised. Now you're falling back on the old standby of shooting the messenger and deflecting from the topic by playing the racist card. That is a pathetic attempt on your part.

I have yet to see anything from you that discusses the topic at hand. Do you have anything to say besides "troll" or "racist?"

Dennis from Poker Face ---- protest rock - truth music
www.pokerface.com

Yea, they like The American Free Press...

...go a bit too far, IMPO, in assigning all of the blame for the globalist conspiracy to one of its major elements--i.e. extreme Zionism.

It is the United States of Rockefeller we should be fighting, but Pokerface is on the right side in at least searching for the truth. They are also DEAD ON CORRECT in claiming this "Presidential campaign" was totally undermined from within.

For a Jewess to deride their exposure of the extreme Zionist element in the global conspiracy doesn't really carry a lot of weight with me, especially given your trolling behavior on this thread.

"Truth is an absolute defense to the charge of paranoia."

Pokerface doesn't assign ALL the blame to Zionists

However, they are quite aware that Rothschilds (who just happen to be Khazars..as are, oh so coincidentally, most of the rest of the international bankers) are at the very top of the NWO pyramid..and they are just calling a spade a spade.

That in no way excuses their Rosicrucian Goy cronies.

Bobby, thanks for posting their URL

I love the pictures of Lew Moore.
While every one else in the crowd looks enthused, and excited. Lew Moore looks like he has all day anal leakage going on. He couldnt look any more unhappy then he does in the pics.

For someone who is in charge of one of the most exciting POTUS campaigns to come around in many decades, you would think that Lewy or should I say Sherril since thats his first real name, was pissed that so many Ron Paul supporters showed up in Philly to see the good Dr.
I know Moore did his best to screw up the Philly event.

And for all of the success that Tom Kawcsynski had in pulling off this great event, lewy had the gall to FIRE HIM, just like Lewy did to Paul Garfield in Michigan after the successful Mackinaw Island event last Sept.
Does every one see a pattern here. Have a successful event, get fired, and then get replaced by an incompetent to derail said states efforts.

Dr Paul, why have you kept this inept dolt on the payroll?
How many Lewy family members are on the RP payroll.

How much of our monies has been abrogated by this man and his family members to basically screw up Americas last chance for a real president. Instead, America is devolving into a 2nd American Revolution. The cartridge box is the only tool the globalists are leaving us with as a remedy to their global cancer.

Lew was let go in May

Lew was let go in May because he was working for The Rossi for Governor campaign when we went to the state convention in May.

So sad....

I expected some infiltration of the campaign from before the time I even got involved (in March-April 2007) but NEVER in my wildest dreams would I have expected the campaign to be so fully infiltrated with so many neocon insiders.

The first inkling I had that we were in real trouble was around July-August of 2007 when I began to urge that we do something to try to break through the media blackout that began immediately after Ames. I called Jesse Benton and asked him why we had received absolutely no TV publicity whatsoever since the Ames Straw Poll. (Don Rassmussen may have also been involved in this) "It's almost like a conspiracy to shut us out since Ames," I added. I know, because I had three VCRs taping RP coverage on all the networks set to different networks every day, and there was NOTHING following the Straw Poll, when there had been an average of 3-4 small pieces weekly prior to Ames.

Jesse said, "Oh, I didn't realize there had been any 'conspiracy'," and the way he used the word was VERY telling to me given all the contempt I have witnessed from NWO insiders for years whenever that term has been brought up. He told me he would get Ron some new TV interviews, and he got back to me that afternoon (after two weeks of nothing) and told me he had arranged three new appearances.

Folks (except for Sandra Cohen), PLEASE THINK ABOUT THAT!?! An unpaid volunteer has to tell Jesse Benton that RP was being cut out of the broadcast media, and when he was told, he immediately was able to get three interviews--and they all went off as scheduled. There is no better evidence that I know of that tells me that the campaign was loaded with saboteurs who were nearly always in constant communication with their paymasters in the Rockefeller, whore media.

That is about when the "Steve Martin is divisive" stuff began too, now that I think about it. And, interesting that Sandra Cohen decided to use that word "divisive" here to describe me as well. Don't tell me there's no connection. Moore, Seehusen, Hopper, et al know who the "troublemakers" are out here, and I am willing to bet Sandra Cohen has been assigned a task here at The Daily Paul since I stopped posting at the Ron Paul Forums. These goons want no one to interfere with their ongoing scam, now being morphed into this "Campaign for Liberty."

Sadly, I have also come to the conclusion that there is no way RP himself could not have been complicit in at least some of this. He had to know, for example, that our money was being squandered, that there was vote fraud going on, and that people like Jim Condit, Jr. were being illogically shunned for trying to help keep some transparency in the process. Did he not know he was being shut out after Ames? Did he not care?

You can tell we are on to something when people like Sandra Cohen come on here and, instead of trying to refute the very specific charges we are making, try to attack the messenger's credibility. That is STANDARD NWO TACTICS that have been used against patriot "messengers" for decades. I have seen it a hundred times. Then, if they can't destroy your "credibility" with the masses of meat heads, they use increasingly violent methods of silencing you until, eventually you have your plane shot down or you have a mysterious car accident, or sudden heart attack.

Sandra Cohen is using the whole billionaire rumor WHICH I DID NOT START BUT MERELY INVESTIGATED to attempt stage #1 against me.

It will not work. If anything worse happens, you will know where to look...

"Truth is an absolute defense to the charge of paranoia."

Rally for the Republic.

Is it real or a tactic to keep 15,000 of us from practicing civil disobediance at the RNC. I am questioning everything now. Delegates is what it has always been about. Now magically we are supposed to just walk away.

Wow, I never thought of that!

But now that you say it, hhmmmm ..........

I have always maintained that the national HQ staff, or at least the leaders like Benton,were plants and saboteurs ---- NOBODY could have been that incompetent in running a campaign. Time after time, they seemed to do nothing but impede the campaign, and doom its chances. Traitors is what they are, and were.

Remember Ron's interview

on Glen Beck he basically said that R4R is to keep us away from trouble.
I am also questioning everything...I think Paul Watson Alex Jones should do an investigation into all of this.

http://www.youtube.com/wa...
http://www.dvds4delegates...
http://www.flickr.com/pho...

I'm going to request my money back from the campaign

I'm now convinced that there is a very high probability that the entire Ron Paul campaign was run as a controlled opposition operation from the very beginning. I know all the die-hard supporters will come out of the woodwork on this assertion but the evidence is mounting that the entire upper echelon of the campaign worked extremely hard (with very high pay may I add) to do everything that they could do to make sure that it did not succeed. They made a good show but when the fight needed fighting they just cowered in the corner and let the Neocons have their way.

http://hayhurstforamerica...

I saw, first-hand, the mismanagement out here in the southwest region by the upper echelon of the campaign and I questioned it openly several months prior to the Nevada caucuses. I had Jeff Greenspan at my home and showed him a tool that we had developed where I put every Clark County, NV (Las Vegas) voter on the map. With that data we had the ability to do intricate swing voter analysis and custom generation of walk lists that would target the "highest bang-for-the-buck" individual voters to canvas. He stated that he was highly impressed and turned it over to Carl Bunce to follow up. We'd already created the data and it was in place... all the campaign had to do was say lets run with it. They went SILENT!!!!

It's time to file a class action suit and at least lock up what funds are left and seize the assets of all the campaign management until such time as they can give good answers for where the money really went. I want to name both the campaign itself and all the individuals involved in management in the suit. This is for those that feel as betrayed as I do and get at least some of our money back from these crooks. I'll never give a dime to another campaign for the remainder of this lifetime and hopefully I have translife memory and won't in the next either.

TROLL ALERT

I WANT MY MONEY BACKed by gold!! How about that!!

I WANT my money back from the IRS and the government who is spending it to prop up foreign dictatorships.

and I think McCain should be reimbursed for the money it spent on you making a obviously moronic TROLL post.

Why "troll alert"?

Because the poster is questioning the integrity of the Golden Calf? Because things don't smell right, and some of us are demanding that everything be laid out on the table?

What happened to "truth"? There's a lot of fishiness with the campaign staff and the recent re-allocation of unused campaign funds. If we're going to be chastised and demonized for demanding some answers about seemingly unsavory actions, then you people are no better than the neocons you claim to despise.

You joined this forum 4 days ago...

and this sounds like a personal vendetta because they didn't use your idea. So, you want to sue Ron Paul too.....

No new members???

Sandra, you seem obsessed with the length of membership instead of analyzing what these people are bringing to the table. I can understand caution, but, how about addressing the issue raised. If you checked out the link he provided, you'll see that Jeff Greenspan is named as one of the betrayers to the campaign.

What's your take on that?

Dennis from Poker Face ---- protest rock - truth music
www.pokerface.com

I've been around since the very beginning of the campaign

I didn't develop the data for any personal gain... that was all on my own dime and I didn't ask the campaign for money for it... I offered it free of charge. Saving this country was and still is the only issue for me. But the youth in this country aren't up to the task.... the price that you'll be asked to pay is far too high for most to accept... but that is what built this country.

I'm old and have been fighting this fight since I returned from Vietnam in 1969... I don't want to hear about I just joined anything 4 days ago.

Unless RON interjects his

Unless RON interjects his complaint, I have to assume things are going as planned. LET'S not jump to a conclusion before hand. THOSE involved must give us feedback or we're in the dark on this one. WE have to give benefit of doubt to RON, & proceed with the message.
I too, would like to know how the BIG money guys get to put into these campagns, without restraint. Seems like campagn finance reform is blown out the window where the rich & connected are concerned.
I do agree that information at that level should be held as TOP SECRET.
LET the chips fall where they may at the convention. THAT is true DEMOCRACY at work, that the polititions are always, TAUNTING us with.
YOURS
TLF

Lew Moore et al

sue b. The concerns we have about what is going on at the national level is exactly why this campaign for liberty will only succeed with actions taken at the local level to educate people. America is a huge country. Different parts of the country have different perpectives and different needs. The whole reason we're losing our freedoms in this country is that the federal government is trying to manage everything in a command-and-control fashion. If the national Campaign for Liberty tries to manage things in the same way, it will fail. Freedom is, by its nature, an individual, not a group, thing. Free individuals may come together because they share common values and goals, but you just can't manage freedom at a national level. So my advice is to go out and do your own freedom thing. Talk with others, share your ideas and experience, act locally. It's better for this revolution not to have a leader or leaders anyway. We've been so collectivized in this country, we think we always need an organization to get something done.

I am convinced that Lew

I am convinced that Lew Moore and others either purposely sabotaged the campaign or are guilty of extreme gross incompetence. This guy should have no part in representing RP when dealing with the RNC. And, after reading/researching further, it would seem that he is not doing that at all, rather representing his own self interests or the interests of the party establishment. To turn a blind eye to his actions, or even RP's actions, is to be just another sheep, albeit it to a different shepherd. How many of us followed W with blind faith? Anyone? Anyone? Why would you do that with any other representative of the people? ALWAYS question authority.

The question of the missing millions got me thinking. What the hell happened in NH? I had always thought it was a sign of weakness to not take the blatant vote fraud face on. This was well before Super Tuesday and a sign of what RP was going to face throughout the primary season. Instead of rolling up their sleeves and taking charge with the millions in the bank, they tucked their tails between their legs and let Albert Howard, Bev Harris and the Grannies do all the dirty work. At this stage, some of RP's close friends and other staff were calling bullshit as we see here:



http://ronpaul.meetup.com...

John Hammell is a friend of RP's and very knowledgeable on voting fraud. We have been robbed of many, many votes. I am certain of it.

posted by: Suz
posted on: February 06, 2008

Last Thursday, Ron Paul's Congressional Chief of Staff Tom Lizardo was on a 2.5 hour long conference call organized by the National Ron Paul Meetup Group organized by Steve Harris of North Carolina. At the 45 minute mark or so Lizardo stated that following the NH Primary, he told Ron Paul's Campaign Manager Lew Moore that he "should resign". You can listen to this archived call using Real Player by saving it to your computer from

http://www.aunetwork.tv/f...

cited email from: John C. Hammell, President International Advocates for Health Freedom
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 1:42 PM





It seems that everytime national staffers were sent in to "manage" on a state level, there was nothing but trouble. How many of us were abhorred by the case of a national staffer having an Alaska volunteer arrested? Here's some more testimony from the Alaska campaign:



http://www.originaldissen...

"Alaska was considered in the bag, or at least a guaranteed second; even
the WSJ was acknowledging the strength of the campaign there."

posted by: an Alaska precinct captain
posted on: February 8, 2008

"And the national campaign manager, Lew Moore, consistently ignored (or pretended not to hear) what was actually needed to win in Alaska."

cited article by: grassroots volunteer in Alaska



It's ironic that this next example states that Benton & Moore started losing credibility around October. That's precisely when my bandmates and I started suspecting there was a fox (or several) in the henhouse. Leading up to the Philly rally, the grassroots were fighting several idiotic moves by national staffers. The rally site had been moved miles away from center city which would have greatly reduced public visibility. Other efforts by the locals were also being wiped from the event's agenda. After a trip directly to DC, the locals got the location back on prime real estate. However, the nationals were still throwing mud in their faces and sewing the seeds of discontent. Then I stumbled across the following info.



http://thedailyburkeman1....

"There is a lot of hostility among the grassroots towards Mr. Benton and Lew Moore. In my humble opinion, they ran a great campaign, right up until the going got tough in October."

posted by: Savrola
posted on: January 25, 2008
quoting: Paul Mulshine - professional journalist - http://blog.nj.com/njv_pa...

"Back in November, when I first encountered his campaign staff, I wrote a column warning the candidate that he needed to get rid of the bozos running his campaign and hire some professionals. I came to that conclusion after I showed up for a press conference prior to Paul's appearance in Philadelphia."

"I was shocked to find there were only two other journalists in the room. His staff had scheduled a press conference but neglected to tell the press. Worse, when the three of us tried to interview the candidate, Snyder rudely cut us off. He told us it was more important for the candidate to shmooze with donors than to keep his commitment to the press."



I find it interesting that way back in October, the focus was money (donors) before visibility (press). There's plenty more tidbits available in the links I've posted. Dig through them or google "Lew Moore sabotage" or "Ron Paul sabotage" or whatever leads you to uncover the truth. Don't rely on me, or for that matter, Steve Martin or others who are posting here. But, as I stated above, following anyone with blind faith is foolish.

Dennis from Poker Face ---- protest rock - truth music
www.pokerface.com

great music

Thank you

Tell some friends

Dennis from Poker Face ---- protest rock - truth music
www.pokerface.com

About the girl scouts, "doing the math", and Lew Moore

Sorry to inform you, but those who have grasped control of the Girl Scouts are now aligned with the Abortion industry and have invited pro-Lesbian speakers to their national conferences. That's sounds Satanic enough for me. Just Google "Girl Scouts Abortion" (with or without the quotes) for a slew of articles.

Also, I see many in the "Lew Moore is being paid by McCain folks now" thread, saying "Ron Paul could do the math, and he knew it was over."

This is typical of the brain dead side of Ron Paul supporters. No one should be doing "the math" while the votes are all counted in secret -- but the "Lew Moore supporters" would rather jump off a building than talk about the pros and cons of easily rigged computerized voting, now imposed on 99% of the USA (where the ballots are hidden from the people on election night, and for at least 3 weeks thereafter, by which time all the ballots can be switched to make the computer results "come true.")

Finally, while it would be great to see this charge against Lew Moore proven (that he is being now paid by the McCain campaign), it is also possible it is story planted by someone who wants to discredit all those that see the Ron Paul Campaign was run into the ground by traitors, saboteurs, opportunists, cowards, and Gollums, -- such as Lew Moore and Jess Benton (although it's still difficult to figure out which category any given individual belongs in). However, we don't need this tidbit to know that Lew Moore was a traitor to Ron Paul and the grassroots --- in case you hadn't noticed --- $20 million dollars that should have gone into a raging national TV and radio ad campaign to expose the New World Order and Crypto Communist/Nazis like Michael Chertoff of Homeland Security and what they are up to -- HAS GONE MISSING. In fact --

No ads were run after New Hampshire, and ALL of the New Hampshire ads were either blatant sabotage of the Ron Paul Campaign ------ (the first canned ad the creeps produced populated with people sounding like stiff, fake supporters; the first line of which was, "I don't agree with Ron Paul on everything, but he's honest" -- who ever heard of introducing a candidate to the public with the line "I don't agree with This Candidate on everything," ?????? ) ------ and the other ads were clever and subtle sabotage -- such as showing Ron Paul looking tired and tense sitting all alone reading a teleprompter, instead of showing him relaxed and happy surrounded by radiant super enthusiastic supporters. Lew Moore had all this footage from Rally after Rally -- the one thing the other candidates on the GOP side did NOT have, -- but his job was to make or supervise TERRIBLE ads that made Ron Paul look like a loser to new people -- AND HE DID.

SMOKING GUN: Where's the missing $20 million dollars, Lew? (of the $30 million we all donated). A lot of us wouldn't have minded that you took $400,000 for a year's work -- if you had actually been fighting the enemy, instead of protecting the enemy (NeoCons) from all of us sincere Ron Paul supporters. And same goes to you, Lew Moore apologists. Either the next words out of your mouth and/or keyboard should be telling us all where that $20 million of our campaign donations disappeared to, which should have been put into EFFECTIVE radio and TV ads -- or just clam up for now until you have the answer.

The time is now upon us when the Ron Paul Campaign of 2008 will separete into the honest, patriotic Americans on the one side, and the Lew-Moore-Supporting trolls, plants, and brain-dead-heads on the other.

"It is better that scandal should arise than that truth be concealed." St. Gregory the Great

Infojunkie

"No ads"?

"No ads were run after New Hampshire, and ALL of the New Hampshire ads were either blatant sabotage of the Ron Paul Campaign"

No ads? We had Ron Paul ads on the TV and radio for weeks leading up to Super Tuesday in my state. It was almost embarrasing how often I saw or heard the ads. And they were good.

I can't speak to much else you said, but I know RP2008 PCC ran plenty of ads here. We also had tons of literature, bumper stickers and signs, distributed out of the field office. The paid staffers there--including one professional with years of GOP campaign experience--may have been ineffective, though.

We never ran ONE SINGLE NATIONAL TV AD

...ever.

Again, I ask: How is that possible??

We had 5 times the money McCain had leading into Super Tuesday and yet he was able to blanket the airwaves with national TV ads, while we couldn't buy even one for our $32,000,000 in good faith donations that were given, primarily, with the hope that the airwaves would be plastered with the freedom message?

How did your people pull that off, Sandra?? Do you think we are all that stupid??

We know where McCain got his help from...

"Truth is an absolute defense to the charge of paranoia."

I thought ad buys were usually done locally, where they would

be most effective, targetting certain states?

That's the same utter BS the

That's the same utter BS the campaign has been spewing when challenged on that score.

WITH $32,000,000 YOU AT LEAST BUY SOME NATIONAL ADS IF YOU ARE A SERIOUS CANDIDATE. Otherwise, no one takes you seriously.

Guess Ron Paul wasn't...

"Truth is an absolute defense to the charge of paranoia."

I'd say it all comes down to results.

If Lew gets more compromise out of the RNC and doesn't compromise our positions, then he's doing a good job.
If he compromises away our positions to favor the RNC, then he isn't.

I'm willing to let him show us what he's made of in this regard.
Not that I have anything to say about it anyway.

I'm trying to give Lew the benefit of the doubt

bit I understand he is telling us "no way" to getting Dr. Paul to speak, when I believe his proper role would be telling the RNC "No way will we accept anything less."
The rest I will leave for time to sort out. I will make this personal observation: There will be a slew of dirt poor, over-extended, but die-hard committed Ron Paul delegates / alternates from my state. Four of the wealthiest ones BAILED, claiming they can't afford it. (And no, they made no offer to help any of the TRULY broke people who ARE going.) It gets worse, but I will keep the rest off the net.

I agree

that IF he actually is telling us "no way that Dr. Paul will speak", and not making the ultimatum to the RNC that "Dr. Paul WILL speak and we won't accept anything less", then that is a strong indicator.

I have not been privy to that information, so I don't know about it.
It doesn't sound good.

Yes, Ron Paul will

Yes, Ron Paul will speak...at the Target Center. At the Rally for the Republic.

There's a lot of fantasy out there right now. Let's wake up a little bit?

Re: Accusations against Lew: I'd like to see some facts. However, it goes without saying that this campaign has been an incompetent mess. Great candidate, horrible organization.

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The difference

The difference between those of us who were in this movement purely for love of country and a desire to see our Republic restored and those who made 6 figure salaries AND lots of other "off salary" perks and payments is really becoming clear now, isn't it?

Those who want to stay in close liaison with the enemy ARE the enemy, people.

It's really that simple.

"Truth is an absolute defense to the charge of paranoia."

Steve, were you ever a part of this movement?

I call that into question. You had been divisive a couple of monthe after you became involved. At RPF there is the belief that you were a plant from the start. BTW that was way before I started reading the threads about you. Especially the billionairre rumor threads you started.

But... OMG..... do we see a pattern here??/!!!

If you aren't with us.... you're against us

Where have we heard that before?

Well, it's pretty much the same people...

Well, it's pretty much the same people saying it too. This campaign was infiltrated and destroyed by neocons, and some of them are still out posting on RP message boards doing "damage control" to try to prevent enough people finding out to force a large public outcry--perhaps even class action lawsuits...

"Truth is an absolute defense to the charge of paranoia."

It's NOT working, Steve.

You're not deflecting anyone from what you do.

Hmm...

"Only Sith deal in absolutes..."

We aren't all brainwashed sheep

Sandra... Some of us have been in this game long enough to still have the built-in reflex to question everything and anything in the political sphere. You and many in this "so-called" revolution movement are newcomers to the game. That is painfully obvious in your naive acceptance of almost everything in this movement at face value... even though there are numerous signals that are screaming loud and clear that something is amiss.

My advice to you is to step back and to take an objective look at everything that is going on around you and to start to question everything. The minute that you just blindly accept anything you'll get burned 99 times our of a 100. It's like getting an email from a complete stranger giving you a "hot" stock tip that is going to turn your initial investment into multiples in a month.

Your attacks against those of us asking the hard questions are just as dangerous as what you claim to be fighting against. We are fighting for free speech as that is the only antidote that can counter the forces of tyranny that are moving against all of us. Trying to shut us up by labeling everyone that doesn't fall into lockstep with the party line is not how you'll get there.

A majority of newcomers that post negatively are usually....

trolls.

There's a pathology to troll posts in forums that is extremely hard to hide. Even some longtime posters have been nabbed as well. It is a marketing tactic also used in campaigning and overused by people that think they're smarter than anyone else and will get away with it. As far as your silly little sstatement about being new to the political arena, no, I have been an active GOP member since 1982 and NEVER in my life have I seen the GOP stoop this low. Especially having people like you, Steve Martin, and Linda Hunnicutt post divisive crap that just exposes you. I think what the bottom line is" why would you post this stuff in this forum?" What did you hope to accomplish? Answer please.

An answer

Exposes me for what... I do NOT work for the GOP or anyone else. My opinions are mine and only mine based upon what I perceive to be what is needed to attempt to save my country.... nothing more... nothing less. My distrust of what has happened with the Ron Paul campaign in general is based on what I have seen and am still seeing happening today with this movement. It has become infested with kids that don't have a clue about what is really needed to take this country back... it's going to take people willing to put their lives on the line... not just go parade around with signs and babble endlessly on the internet. Personally... I won't even be voting as I see the time for being able to change anything politically as having passed. The entire system is full of cancer and the only way to cure it is to cut out the tumor of absolute corruption.

The youth in this country have never experienced hardship on any level and we have an entire generation of spoiled, lazy and spineless kids that believe that they are entitled to everything. I see them whining because someone won't chipin to send them to a worthless convention where they have to stay in a $250/night hotel. A yuppie revolution anyone? I guess we should have a wine tasting to kick it off too eh? Friggen misinformed sheep!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm a Marine Corps Vietnam vet... and as patriotic as they come. You can call me troll or anything else that you feel satisfies your desire to flame without offering a shred of counter argument. You're just another lemming marching toward the cliff Sandra and I don't want you, or anyone that agrees with you, on my side in this fight anyway... that is the equivalent to wearing lead boots to go swimming in.

So, you'll question a new member...

...but you won't question anything that has to do with the Golden Calf? What's wrong with his comment about being wary of scams and hidden agendas? You'll allege that of posters you won't agree with, who've given no reason for you to believe such, but you won't apply that skepticism towards those you've put an emotional stake in, when the evidence just keeps coming in?

Divisive? What's that mean these days in the Paul circles? Anybody who second guesses the bandwagon fad of the week? Anybody who puts Ron, his circle, or anybody who claims to be in his circle under a microscope? Anybody who refuses to agree and wave the pom poms as a knee-jerk reaction?

So much for freedom, eh? An aspect of freedom most of you "revolutionaries" seem to have not grasped is that freedom is either for everybody or its for nobody, and if its for everybody, there's a level of tolerance of everybody else's freedoms that must be adhered to instead of instantly ostracizing for simply being wary or disagreeing.