I just got back from seeing I.O.U.S.A. - Featuring Dr. Ron Paul

Here is all they had to say:

"To save the country, we need to cut government spending. In order to do that, we need to phase out government programs." THE END

When an individual has a problem with debt and they are spending like a drunken sailor, everyone seems to easily grasp that the solution is to *stop spending*. Even someone with a grade five education knows that.

Yet when the government has a problem with debt, people in this movie won't even discuss cutting government programs. All they talk about is increasing taxes, which any economist can tell you will cause the economy to tank. The only way to improve an economy is to cut taxes. We're living in a Bizarro World .

And offer no solution and/or a 'trust the government/Fed" solution.

Typical bait and switch stuff for the NWO.

Show me the movie where it says "We the People" are the solution...and I'll show you real change.

Between Young and little bits like this, Ron Paul is losing credibility.

BTW: Is Jesse Ventura really considering being a TV judge?

Two very good remarks on www.lewrockwell.com regarding this film.
They are titled: IRIPOFFUSA and IOUSA: I Want a Refund.

Last night I made a big goof not realizing the IOUSA movie was a scheme of the cabalists to hoodwink Americans concerned about our national debt. Accepting the offered "solutions" from the same people who've created the problems is their mission. I didn't thoroughly read my own links beforehand. Sorry 'bout that. I should have been tipped off as to the ease and distribution they obtained for their 'public service project' when Aaron Russo had to move heaven and earth.

Y'all know about Kissinger's past treachery by now. Buffett though is another matter. Like Soros he's idolized (and hyped) for his 'uncanny' market calls. Being connected to the core of a rotten apple surely helps. His tax-exempt foundation's contributions give us all some insight into his leftist, statist, and anti-capitalist philosophy. Bill Gates has 'seen the light' and is a younger clone of these two.

Peter G. Peterson is the lesser known, but is perhaps the main mover in this production. You can read his impeccable CFR credentials on their web site. He has been the head cheerleader of putting our Social Security system under the NY banks using the pretext of "privatization". You can Google him yourself for more.

In all likelihood you'll see IOUSA on HBO or primetime. It is another tool to get Americans to buy into the suicidal belief that the Federal Reserve should be entrusted to better manage our country's fiscal, monetary, and budgetary oversight. The US Treasury which is now little more than an enforcement arm of the Fed will have greater enforcement powers over citizens, ensuring the prosperity, safety, and political welfare of the elitist few. Is it just coincidental that Bernanke's appeal for additional eavesdropping powers be given the Fed dovetails with the premiere of IOUSA? We'll see.

We don't have to be super patriots, just informed, then act on our own balanced logic, paying attention to our gut instincts. We have the means to effect change that 1776 Americans did not have.

Also see: http://www.solari.com/arc...

many months ago (paraphrasing) his campaign was taking off "because of the unpopularity of the war... now if the economy tanks we'll really see something."

We must get people to see IOUSA, even if it isn't a perfect movie. I was there last night and it was like being home. Rounds of applause for our guy, good stuff.

But we're the choir. This movie has the potential to awake the masses (a la' Convenient Truth) and that's when we MUST POSITION the SMALL-GOVT, BIG-LIBERTY SOLUTION as the answer to this problem.

Tell everyone you know about IOUSA, get it some buzz. I told my staff and our company's board leaders about it, all were intrigued. Whether it's IOUSA or Perot's attempts or something else, sheeple will one day soon come to see the problem of the Generational Fiscal Imbalance. We MUST not let kick-the-can-down-the-street solutions out-shout liberty.

-JP

This sky-is-falling crap is getting tired.

Building seven fell to demolition? Yes

The US economy collapsing? No

Thanks to Dave Ramsey's program, I paid off all my debt in a few years...fairly easy actually. All I need to live is a mere $2000/month to live (utilities, food, health insurance, etc). I can make that doing part time work.

Maybe, we live in the most luxurious country that ever existed, and yet most people can't enjoy it because they are spoiled, greedy, hyper consumeristic, feel entitlled to severely overpriced crap (big houses, toys, movie popcorn), and, most of all, don't think for themselves.

So some more market bubbles are about to pop? GOOD! That provides great buying opportunities for me!

Anyway, like the movie, Dave and I are definately down with saving like crazy...so if the movie scares people into saving...that is good.

And there are some valid problems with our economy...specifically the Fed loaning us money...but I hear the movie barely touches the Fed...so it sounds like this is just another chicken hawk movie advising people to panic instead of being wise with their own money.

We passed out over 400 flyers - on one side was the movie poster - on the other was the write up we had done regarding the solution of abolishing the Federal Reserve. I stood at the entrance and passed them to folks as they sat down and the others from my meetUp walked around the theater and made sure everyone had one - people assumed our group was part of the program. We left them on the cars at the theater and passed them out to all the attendees (there were about 50 people in the theater - 7 were from our meetUp) The people in the theater were very receptive!

During the movie - our hero - Ron Paul received rousing applause from the live audience in the theater! We did an excellent job of politely waking people up. The movie provided the cold hard facts and we were the smiling faces providing a solution. This was a special opportunity, and we must seek out more. I expect to see some new faces at our next meeting due to the effort we put in with this movie. WE DID GOOD!

Oh the on the movie itself. - well it was good because it graphically, and in a medium people could sit and deal with, got the finances in people's face. Naturally it did NOT bring up the true problem - the Federal Reserve itself. This we anticipated - hence the handouts. After reading through this thread - I think we all can agree that Walker was clearly the star.

It would be nice if Ron Paul would announce at his convention that his pick for VP would be Walker!

it was in over 400 theaters nationwide.

I'd just like to point out that while it is great to read these reviews. You need to be writing them on sites that specializes in movie reviews.

http://www.movietickets.c...
http://movies.yahoo.com/m...

Don't be afraid to give critical user reviews. Seriously after only read a few of the latest reviews I'm convinced that most of you could write personal blogs on the subject as well. Then we can digg it up with any luck actually influence the popular view.

"I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever." - Thomas Jefferson

I can't see it. It's not playing anywhere near my area. If this is supposed to be such an eye opener, why is it only playing in 13 areas?

It became evident, the panel had agendas.

Move retirement to 70? wtf is that?

The movie pointed out that we import more than we export. AND THAT INCLUDES JOBS. Outsourcing jobs is killing us.

Not once did they discuss that.

How about a tariff on companies that outsource jobs?

I like Buffet but he's an elite, of course he's optimistic, he's a freaking billionaire. Meanwhile, millions lose their homes and the middle class disappears.

The panel discussion started to sound like McCain talking points, live on less.

Their mantra to "save" while good advice is another way of saying, "live within your means", something that is becoming more difficult as the VALUE OF THE DOLLAR steals us blind.

And people clapped about NOT privatizing Social Security? Selfish bastards. It's your busted up bed, you lie in it. You people turning a blind eye is what got us into this mess.

Overall, a worthwhile movie/documentary. Somebody needs to pick up Walker as VP.

Given the tone of the movie, there was WAY too much feel good, America can rise to the challenge sentiment. David Walker was the only one to get close to feisty enough. I think he was right on.

Oh, and "get out there and vote" is worthless as advice. Clearly, the people are not voting for candidates ready to attack this issue in the serious manner it needs to be addressed. Make sure to save is also worthless, since you have to invest in stocks to even keep pace with inflation, and that can only be considered saving over a decades-long time horizon and under the assumption that equities will offer adequate return--something they have historically done, but not necessarily something they will do satisfactorily even over some decades (look at Japan). So that advice is shite too, unless there was a mechanism for stable money.

What I found most disconcerting is that these people talk about make tough, serious decisions, but they refuse to stand behind someone (like Ron Paul) and say, "look, here is the type of politician we need. EVERYONE in America should ask why he is the only one saying these things, and why he is not covered more and essentially shunned by the rest of the political world." But they didn't, in their attempt at non-partisanship. I didn't need an endorsement, but I think a question to the panel along the lines of "While not asking for a political endorsement, who specifically in this campaign cycle talked most about this issue and what could be done to solve it?" would have been appropriate. They would have been forced to answer Ron Paul or be cast as hypocrites.

There were many more old people than young people in the audience where I saw the movie (Mission Valley, CA), and a lot of old, rude people talking during it as well. I didn't expect that.

When everyone clapped at panelists' rhetoric about do-nothing politicians, I just thought to myself, "you don't deserve to clap unless you voted for neither Democrat or Republican, Ron Paul excepted, in the primaries."

Ultimately Pete Peterson is right, sadly. There will be no solution until a crisis hits. There will be no way to "hold the politicians" accountable and "get them to redraw districts to be more competitive", because they're already in. The ones in have to do the redrawing, and you can't vote honest newcomer's in because, the ones in power have to do the re-districting first, and that ain't gonna happen. I see no political solution. I see a crisis that will either rally the people like WWII thus forcing the issue, or just a MASSIVE inflation of the currency that suddenly makes 55 trillion in debt not that big, at the expense of an entire social security check only being able to buy a gallon of milk.

Yes the movie did not go far enough to satisfy informed Ron Paul supporters however it will go a long way to waking up the sheeple to the problem then they will be open for us to take them the rest of the way.

Warren Buffet is a waste of skin of course things look rosey when your a billionaire. The AARP guy was an idiot. David Walker gets it IMO but tones it down to appeal to a wider audience. Peterson said some good things but I don't trust him, and the guy from CATO had the SSI right but was wrong on a few other things. I don't trust CATO either since they attacked Ron Paul early in the campaign

Their solutions to save more and not retire until 70 were laughable. But still it will be a good tool to wake up the sheeple to the fact there is a huge problem.

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All of a sudden he is speaking out. Gee, how's that for timing?

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/0...

Here is a link to BJ Lawson's blog (he is a RP candidate running for Congress in Raleigh, NC) for a pretty in-depth review of the movie:

http://blog.lawsonforcong...

Hey all I was wondering when we in NC will be able to see this... where can I go to find out?

Greg Curry

www.thriftyu.com

sorry

Even though I enjoyed this movie and it did have some good information in it I was a bit disappointed that they didn't go into Fractional Reserve Loaning nor did they address the morality issue of "legal plunder"

If you thought that was eye opening I have two documentaries you need to see, since I don't expect you to watch them all at once, go ahead and bookmark them. The info is worth it.
Money Masters 3hr 30 min
http://video.google.com/v...
and Money as Debt 47min
http://video.google.com/v...

and for the "legal plunder" which they didn't address we have Frederick Bastiat's the law which is a must read for anyone standing by Dr. Paul's economic policies. http://bastiat.org/en/the... (also worth bookmarking)

A few observations about the film.

1. This film was propaganda to prepare Americans for the coming economic collapse. They glossed over the fact that the Fed and the monetary policy is the root cause of this. They are blaming it on the politicians for spending and borrowing too much. They are still presenting the Fed and the international bankers and monetary policy as part of the solution. They did not present as an option sound money, shutting down the fed. They spent lots of time at the end backpedaling to avoid a panic regarding Social Security. There is no more Social Security.

2. It totally glossed over the cost of the War on Terror and Homeland security cost and the role it has played in our current debt. Estimates have this debt between 3 –http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/07/AR2008030702846.html
7 trillion. Iraq war may cost US USD 7 trillion http://www.presstv.ir/det...

3. I also do not believe these future projections for Defense and Homeland Security. That is similar to their initial future projections of the War in Iraq and the War on Terror. They baited the public in with a few hundred billion and now there is no end in sight at several trillion.

4. From the Pentagon alone Rumsfeld reported on 9.10.01 CBS - Rumsfeld 2.3 Trillion Dollars missing Pentagon http://www.youtube.com/wa...

5. There were no real speakers except Walker like Peter Schiff, Ron Paul or Jim Rogers. It was evident Buffett either does not understand monetary policy or was playing dumb as a fox. Walker was about to come out of his seat. Buffet and Niskanen were selling a false bill of goods “that this is fine, save your money, the pie will get bigger, etc.” We are heading toward a major economic depression. Get out of the dollar, get out of treasuries. Don’t let them have your money. Jim Rogers on US Economy and the FED
6. http://www.youtube.com/wa...

7. Walker has been adamant “We can not grow our way out of this problem” http://www.youtube.com/wa...

8. Buffet gave a false illusion that we have nothing to fear with foreign nations holding our debt. They failed to mention what happens when the oil producing nations no longer accept dollars and demand oil. Also, by simply flooding the market with US treasuries then value of the dollar will plummet. Then as they American economy tanks, they foreigners flush will dollars will pick up all of our assets for penny on the dollar and they have lots of dollars.

9. Jim Rogers is telling us to flee the dollar. This guys gave us bad advice. They told us we need to save our dollars and buy into US Equities. The problem is that if all of America saves 25% of their earnings while the government is devaluing the currency. You can not save fast enough to keep up with the devaluation.

10. The purpose of wanting Americans to buy Treasuries is so the government can buy up American Corporations. That is fascism. http://www.nytimes.com/20...

11. Depression risk might force U.S. to buy assets http://www.reuters.com/ar...

12. They also failed to discuss buying this entire Credit Default Insurance market - If the fed guarantees the debt in this market it is more than the stock market, treasuries market and GDP. It is impossible. http://www.nytimes.com/im...

13. Many nations are beginning to discuss refusing to accept the US dollar. Moodys is discussing downgrading US Treasuries Debt to a "B" Rating. http://findarticles.com/p...

14. Delusions of Debt – The Ron Paul Solution http://www.lewrockwell.co...

15. They should have addressed more that we are not dealing with “money” Money Banking and the Federal Reserve http://video.google.com/v...

16. Don’t forget Ron Paul’s adamant position to abolish the fed. Abolish The Federal Reserve http://www.house.gov/paul...

17. Fed's Bernanke asks Congress to consider more regulatory authority over markets http://www.forbes.com/afx...

18. Paulson Urges Expansion Of Fed Power http://www.nasdaq.com/asp...

19. Will the US Congress approve a sale of IMF gold to help shore up IMF finances?
http://www.commodityonlin...
17 Here a piece “The American Economy is in Deep Trouble and the American People are being sold out” http://files.meetup.com/1...

The movies was very informative about the problem we are facing with our national debt, our unfunded liabilities, and added a historical context to the problem we are facing now. The movie illustrated that there are four different kinds of problems we are facing besides the deficit in Federal spending. Ron Paul was actually in the movie multiple times. I hope that this helps increase his popularity and power in Congress.

Regarding the panel. I was not all that impressed. I was least impressed with Mr. Buffett and most impressed with Mr. Walker. BTW, David Walker lives on land that once belonged to George Washington in Alexandria, Virginia.

Because of the RP movement I have become a Republican Party Precinct chair. As part of that I have setup a blog to communicate with those in my precinct. Here are a few links to videos with Mr. Walker.

http://www.richardsonrepu...

http://www.richardsonrepu...

The first link has an excellent introduction of Mr. Walker by Ross Perot. There are a few facts in there about Mr. Perot that I did not know too. You'll have to watch the video to find out what they are.

The second video is the famous 60-minutes interview where Mr. Walker says the greatest threat to our economy is not a terrorist, but an economic threat. His words are much better than mine...

Anyway, aside from David Walker the panel was not that interesting. That's okay though. It's not their job to fix our country. It's ours. This movie helps identify the problem and it's up to "we the people" to fix it. So bring a friend and get out to see the movie, and tell your damn Congressman you want the debt fixed.

JOhn

"Evil flourishes when good men do nothing."
—Edmund Burke

Except now, the direct debt is more like 10 Trillion and the future unfunded obligations are closer to 90 Trillion. According to one of the FED governors.

The 60 minutes piece with David Walker really opened my eyes. I knew the country was in debt, but I had no idea how bad.

I look forward to seeing this movie.

Here is the 60 minute piece (with a little Dr. Paul added to it).

http://www.youtube.com/wa...

"Evil flourishes when good men do nothing."
—Edmund Burke

The movie barely discussed the Fed, and certainly did not reveal how deeply they are rooted in the cause of our problems. We were there to give people information to learn the rest of the story. Their "answer" is for all of us to run down and start a savings account - give your money to them. I agree with saving, just not in their banks.

Would've loved to have seen the movie this evening, but found myself at a house district 6 meeting instead. A certain someone who lost her race badly, as she deserved to, doesn't want to let it go, and I felt I had to go to continue to support her opponent. You were so smart to distance yourself from this!

I was there too. Nearly packed house with an astute crowd. The best applause was Ron Paul schooling Greenspan about how if he treated his patients like Greenspan the patient "would die", followed by a long silence when the chairman finally asked....Is the gentleman from Texas finished. Greenspan remained silent. The point was not missed.

I also agree that the panel did not hit the FED as they should have. When Walker opposed Buffet on the entilements he explained how 68% of the budget has no constitutional authority. He should have carried that thought through by stating that there is no constitutional authority for the FED as Dr. Paul has. With every dollar owing interest to the FED there is no way out of the debt because the system is debt. Debt must continue to expand in order to pay the debt. Get it? We must return to constitutional money. All other options only prolong the inevitable fate of our fiat currency.

I handed out some copies of Peter Kershaw booklet Economic Solutions after the show. I didn't bring enough. You can read about and order this important book at http://www.healthfreedom....

Overall very positive and an eye opener for America. I can't wait to get it on DVD for sharing with my family and friends.

got back from seeing the movie in Burbank, CA. It was wonderful to see Dr. Paul so well received by the audience. He got laughter and cheers. It was great! Because of this film tonight I believe people have come away w/a much broader respect for him, especially for the way the shook down Alan Greenspan. Lovely!!

Yet, I kinda of feel like those wealthy men there may have been trying to atone for the spoils that they have benefited from on the backs of the American people by telling us that, again, we must use our backs to make things right for ourselves. Warren Buffet admitted he got to where he is today by using lobbyists to lobby Congress for him. It's easy to preach to us about getting involved and monitoring our Congress, but I don't believe we should do it, by lobbying for it like he/they did. Actually it's damn near impoosible for most of us to do it in that way, nor do I think most of us like the idea of having a "Gucci Gulch" lobbyist system in our govt. anyway!

Although I like David Walker, ex top accountant for the U. S. GOA, it didn't sit well w/me that the lapel pin he was wearing was what looked like and owl. Isn't that the symbol that the Free Masons use??

They didn't address the banking failures and still want us to take the wealth or the fruits of our labor and save it somewhere. It seems that savings today are risky if you bank them. They didn't say where we should put our wealth/savings, either.

I Think it was Peter Peterson who said that his parents came here from Greece, were penniless and made it. Well, they did prosper, but that was an era before the income tax and the Federal Reserve. It's much harder, if not impossible, to recreate that scenario today!

They said that young people have to become more informed and know what is going on. True. But how is that going to happen when we've got a Dept. Of Education that keeps them dumbed down? They said nothing about the Dept. of Education or the eradication of it. If only they would have invited Dr. Paul to elaborate on that!!

It was a film that offered good info and bad info and advice all at the same time.

And, oh, yeah, don't let me forget the part about it being suggested that the American people should be made to save money as mandated by the govt. as suggested by the gentleman from AARP. I didn't like that!!

I found it very interesting that fandango did not list the movie as playing this evening but rather tomorrow- and I checked several zip codes in a couple of states- then I called the theater where it was playing, the Pacific Place AMC, and it was not on the recording as showing this evening.....hmmm....

The audience reacted most vocificerously for Dr. Paul...should have been more on the illegality of the Fed. Love that David Walker guy. Wasn't Peterson the one that bailed on RP for McCain?

I thought the movie was very educational for folks that are new to the fiscal insanity of the Fed Gov.
The panel discussion after the movie was very telling. Warren Buffett is surely an affable fellow and of course a great investor....but.....he is incredibly a bona fide statist and basically said that it is ok for all the money to go to Washington and then us peons should just fight it out to get our "fair share" of the federal tax pie!!! He has betrayed his fathers teachings. His father was definitely a republican in the Ron Paul mode or better said a Robert Taft Republican. David Walker put Buffet in his place at least one time if not more. The guy from the AARP was also a statist in that he thought that we should all be FORCED to save for our retirement! And that social security should not be privatized as it would be too risky, duh..... and what does he think giving money for retirement to the feds is? Any way.....the movie is a good primer for the general public.
Of course Ron Paul shined. And ...isnt it interesting that he was the only presidential candidate that was interviewed on the fiasco called the federal budget.
Bottom line.........America will not change its ways until there is a financial crash. In other words, when we can no longer borrow on the open market at reasonable interest rates, that will be the day when things get corrected and we return to a sane and sound fiscal/ monetary situation.....until then........ just save for that "rainy" day and associate with good folks that are not dependent on the criminal class in govt and things will work out just fine.