Moderate Supporters?

I agree 100% Melissa. I don't call myself anything . I look for answers & let truth hit me where it my. POLITICS is so complicated & mixed ,but so easy if you let it be. What is right is right ,there is No interpritation needed. THANKS M . By the way someone mentioned 9/11, so here goes one more time . IF 9/11 was such a masterfull plot bu the FED why didn't they cover their ass by planting weapons of mass DIST. in Iraqie soil ??????

This seems to be the nature of political forums in general and some good heated arguements may actualy help rather than hinder.Take a debate for instance most candidates do not pat each other on the back they tend to go at each other.But I think that everyone wants to take credit for the victories and wants to blame for the failures.I don't agree with Dr. Paul on everything 100%,maybe 98.9%.I for one thought he should have (after the first debate) set out a write in campaign to garner as many votes as possible,filed in all states that allow it and let us have our say regardless of the GOP.I also like Alex Jones,and with Alex also I don't agree 100%,but I do think there is plenty of evidence to point to a inside job on 9/11.I for one don't see that you can seperate truth from freedom or vise versa.I do hope that the Ron Paul campaign doesn't turn into the Ross Perot fiasco.That was a potential Presidential candidate pulling up stakes and leaving his supporters to dangle,and starting a PAC group and nothing changed and the PAC group disappeared.Do I blame the "truthers" or their message for being the problem,no,nor do I blame the "freedomers" or their message.I can find fault with the NWO,CFR,the GOP,and the political system in general they are responsible for unability for us to unite and show real progress.

Yeah I totally get you on this one, Melissa. . .there were/are way too many "hardliners" who are like powdering the fucking muskets waiting to hunt down the NWO (cue Alex Jones' over-hyped adrenalin juicing intro. . .)!!!

It's like, the paranoia level is way too high and people take things so damn seriously that they forget there are other people in the world with similar good intentions but who think completely different from them!

And the other thing is, when someone is on the internet, they can be/do/say whatever they want without the uncomfortable reality of a live, visceral conversation. So we have all these inflated egos living out some quasi-fantastical notion of becoming some sort of revolutionary hero and acting brash and condescending on a measly forum. . .

Or maybe, Melissa, we are just black ops specialists trying to distract potential cultists, I mean patriots away from the truth about 9/11 and the New World Order? Perhaps, just maybe, THEY are controlling us all!!!

I think the problem- with posters like oruval for example- is that they are extremely emotional when responding to posts they don't like. The people that post here that disagree with Ron Paul on various points don't have some secret agenda- they're just talking, and if you think they're wrong then try to persuade them to your side. We're not going to convince anyone that free-markets and liberty are right by name-calling and telling them "You just don't understand". You have to do it through debate and education.

I think we have over 10,000 members, yet only a few hundred ever post...hmm, I wonder why...

Next time read into it a little deeper when someone boasts how they "chased those trolls away".

Perhaps those trolls are like Melissa, or Jzneff for that matter, and are simply tired of paying taxes, tired of endless war, and are looking for a better way.

But nope...this movement doesn't accomidate them.

Take the blue pill. Cause when you know, not think 9/11 was an inside job because of actual physics being right,

when you know, not think that Flouride was used in Nazi concentration camps to quell people into submission so they wouldn't want to escape,

when you know, not think That Fox news is a control mechanism for propaganda then maybe, just maybe...

You'll understand that even though getting Dr Paul elected would be the best thing ever all you can hope for at the end of the day is waking up enough people so that freedom.. True freedom not what you think is freedom doesn't die.

I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!

Thanks for this. I have been getting tired of all of the bashing. But, on a Ron Paul website I don't like to see people being discouraging. Remember, the power of positive thinking and ideals. Until we are absolutely sure there is no hope, no way, for Ron Paul to be nominated I don't want a lot of negativity here. Otherwise, we do need to focus on the positive issues on how we can truly implement change and quit bashing each other.

Healthnut4freedom

"Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct thy paths." Proverbs 3:5,6

I heard GLENN BECK 8/25/2008,say that RON PAUL's campaign was finished & it sounded like GLENN was saying the CFL. WHAT's the story ? I believe it is going well.
JUST ASKING,
TLF

I have no problem with people who do not support Ron Paul in 100% of his opinions and views --- for one, I do not as well. The problem is with those few, but VERY vocal and active posters, who ATTACK his views, and core values of those who are pro-liberty.

For example, it is one thing to say that one does not own gold or silver, nor sees much use in doing so --- it is another thing altogether to vehemently attack owning the precious metals, deny that there could ever be any value in owning them, fiercely argue that it is foolish and immoral to "hoard" metals, and in general speak as if they were from the IMF, as a handful here have done.

It is notable that that same handful are also the same ones who will time and time again attack others who speak out against established power, whether it be the two-party system, the corrupt and manipulated MSM, mega-corporations who work in league with the government, or any other manifestation of "The Establishment" and the current status-quo.

I dont agree with "everything" RP says. (I do agree with the overwhelming majority of it though). One can easily make the arguement that it was the truthers that turned the campaign into a revolution; the truthers were the original paulers. And that it was the johnny-come-lately non-truthers that werent comfortable with... the truth... to the point that they tried to down play the truthers contributions because they didnt want to be associated with them... thus driving a wedge in the movement.

Ive been a truther since the afternoon of 9-11 (first thing i screamed about was why werent there any jets in the air?????). But I know it will take a miracle for RP to win the nomination. I just dont see why non-truthers always accuse the truthers for undermining the campaign. It wasnt us... it the the MSM and the powers that be. By accusing.. me, as a truther, for driving people away... you yourself are driving the wedge within the movement that your complaining about.

Remember this: What was the precise moment that the RP candidacy skyrocketed? It was when he was attacked by Giuliani when RP gave an "alternative" cause for 9-11.

Semper Fortis

some of it might be considered a "knee-jerk' reaction, because of a couple of things.

Regarding "jeering" of others who seem to accept the defeat of RP, there are alot of people who are still working hard to push to the last possible moment, and hope for a miracle.
There is a certain sentiment on the board that we should be kept in good spirits and supported, because we are keeping the faith.
All of us know it's a long shot, We're just trying to to keep a support level alive.

The other issue is that there have been loads of trolls that come here in order to infect the site with disinformation and argument and scorn, in order to fracture a movement that is dangerous to the existing criminal political structure.

So, between the 2, there is a protective activity going on, that may or may not be totally productive, but is a reality.

Regarding "moderate" supporters, speaking for myself, I feel a "moderate" supporter is somebody who is learning about the issues and why the current corrupt system isn't working. I think that there is a decent level of reception here for those looking to learn more about it from people who have a much deeper understanding of the complex matters than they do. .
There is not a good reception here for anybody looking to come in and tell us how the status quo really isn't as bad as we think, and that we're kooks.
Alot of people here are very advanced in studying what is going on, and are not neophytes at all. When somebody comes in here an implies that they should drop their learning, and "come back to the corral with Fox News", or that they don't need a gun, or that the money system is just fine, etc, then that ain't gonna fly at all.