Don't get me wrong folks, I think Alex is a good guy who means well, but his way of delivering the message is not going to cut it if we wish to get to the next level. There is a point of limited returns with regards to scaring people.
I guess in the end it all depends on what you want.
Do you want to push a small number of people to the point of violence, or do you want to develop a message that will create a voting block that can't be ignored?
I'd say we need about a thousand Alex Jones' running around. It would sure beat the lazy ass sunshine patriots around my neck of the woods who won't get off their butts to do anything to help. All lip service and no action. It takes a pair of basket ball sized gonads to stick your neck out on the front line like AJ does, and I'm not even a fan.
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If you do this while while rebelling against a powerful, evil empire that uses the MSM to shout its message to the masses and you win a triumphant victory against all odds.
Guess what you get in its place?
With these tactics one is trying to get people to choose freedom before first getting them to choose to exist. In a way you are forcing freedom onto the non existant masses that are already used to things being forced upon them.
You can not win freedom in this fashion.
That is why freedom is so hard to achieve.
There is not easy way to achieve it.
Our mission is two fold and must be done in the proper order.
he died in 1999.. Now you want to think again about how you are trying to play that respect your parents bullshit mind game.
Actually he would probably say glad you are sticking to your guns kiddo... He would see through your shit as if it were a double pained window freshly squeegeed..
He was good about detecting bullshit. He always liked to say I was born at night but it wasn't last night.
Guess I have good genes and all for being able to spot your ass a mile away.
Pray for some common sense and discernment,so that you can understand that buildings do not fall symmetrically into the path of most resistance,due to some random fires,and minor structural damage.
Because if you can't see that Bldg 7 was a controlled demo,then,you might need to pray 3 or 4 times a day for the sense God gave a gnat.
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What you're trying to do right there... It needs to stop. You don't know me. Don't begin to categorize in your head. All you need to know about me is that I am the guy that will point you out for what you are.. Period.
Submitted by preferred on Tue, 08/26/2008 - 17:33.
He isn't smart enough to have a rational debate with someone. All he knows how to do yell at people and call names. To him, winning a debate is just overpowering the other person in rudeness, name-calling, or as in this case loudness. He's a weak idiot.
It's funny and entertaining sure, but if you think about it's really really idiotic.
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At least Alex has the balls to face these criminals.
You don't even have the balls to admit how many different names you have used on this forum...,eh BillyDee?
You hide behind a computer and then change your name when everyone gets tired of smelling your BS,and the come back under a different one,only to be spotted by those that are used to your style of banter.
You are the coward. And a pathetic one at that.
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Submitted by MMJ Ministry on Tue, 08/26/2008 - 19:16.
just yesterday Alex debated a anarcist who had a bullhorn and alex still won!
know your role. Alex knows his.
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Submitted by Citizen Joe on Tue, 08/26/2008 - 18:55.
It''s one thing to disparage a freedom fighter and it''s another to sit on the sidelines and type critical words behind a computer screen..
When the government finally cracks down on all of us then you too will be screaming but it may be for different reasons and it may be too late at that point.
We must confront the NWO shills at every turn, drive them out of our government and convict those who have destroyed our countries name.
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I dont think that those people would actually let themselves be in a debate with him, so I think he is doing the right thing by discrediting them in any way possible
I am quite certain that you have been exposed quite thoroughly .. and I guarantee that AJ is sitting pretty with his power to discredit people compared to the likes of someone like you Rhino who thinks Styrofoam can cause concrete to explode.
Devon:
We'll go with the official story... they assumed that the entire 3,500 gallons of jet fuel was confined to just one floor of the World Trade Center, that the jet fuel burnt with perfect efficency, that no hot gases left this floor, that no heat escaped this floor by conduction and that the steel and concrete had an unlimited amount of time to absorb all the heat.
Now each of the towers contained 96,000 (short) tons of steel. That is an average of 96,000/117 = 820 tons per floor. Lets suppose that the bottom floors contained roughly twice the amount of steel of the upper floors (since the lower floors had to carry more weight). So let's estimate that the lower floors contained about 1,100 tons of steel and the upper floors about 550 tons = 550 x 907.2 ≈ 500,000 kgs. We will assume that the floors hit by the aircraft contained the lower estimate of 500,000 kgs of steel. This generously underestimates the quantity of steel in these floors, and once again leads to a higher estimate of the maximum temperature.
Each story had a floor slab and a ceiling slab. These slabs were 207 feet wide, 207 feet deep and 4 (in parts 5) inches thick and were constructed from lightweight concrete. So each slab contained 207 x 207 x 1/3 = 14,283 cubic feet of concrete. Now a cubic foot of lightweight concrete weighs about 50kg, hence each slab weighed 714,150 ≈ 700,000 kgs. Together, the floor and ceiling slabs weighed some 1,400,000 kgs.
We still on the same page?
I inquired about lightweight concrete and added that decades ago they used to substitute styrofoam for aggregate to make light wieght concrete. Anyways this was touched on in several posts, but here is an important one from me:
Rhino:
If styrofoam was used as the aggregate substitute, there would be small pockets everywhere. When the polymer reaches a certain temperature, it could explode. Not saying it did, but this is a plausible scenerio.
One day later on 7/16 I posted the following:
Almost forgot, I wanted to hash out the concrete question also.
Personally, I think that there is a high probability that there was no styrofoam in the concrete, but has anybody proven this?
Wow seems like your argument is weak.. that is usually what happens when you have no argument. I think people would like to know you don't agree with the Physics of Inertia.. Might give them a little bearing on what should be trusted coming out of your mouth.
Hey you should post the whole link next time it really tells the whole story.
I'm not a die-hard Alex Jones fan but if he was gone I believe that he would be missed in this "fight of freedom".
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you have been indoctrinated all your life to look down and think negatively when someone doesn't tow the line to what you've been brainwashed to believe is politically incorrect. With what is going on in the world to humanity would enrage a NORMAL person, and it SHOULD enrage us all. Alex Jones is doing and acting the way we should be IF we wanted change and if we were really angry. I have lost alot of friends and some family members feel we are overreacting and that is because we WONT just go with the program. I am tired of caring how people might think about me but I wont stop doing my part for THEM.
Submitted by Citizen Joe on Tue, 08/26/2008 - 16:41.
He's not doing harm to the freedom movement whatsoever. He's showing us what we should be doing.
Where is the outrage with those who are destroying our country? Should we continue to placate to them with niceties while they conspire to eviscerate our Constitution and our freedoms?
Alex Jones is a great American!
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Submitted by ironman77 on Tue, 08/26/2008 - 16:50.
And does a great deal to hurt the freedom movement. by associating his buffoonery with the freedom movement, he makes the entire movement look crazed. Most people can not be convinced by yelling like this. They just dismiss him as a nut.
The reason some people like him is not because he is effective - he is not - rather he provides catharsis by doing what you wish you could do. He is sort of the road rage of the political world. .
Submitted by Citizen Joe on Tue, 08/26/2008 - 18:47.
I bet you'd have no problem with....people screaming for a sports team right?
The people AJ is confronting are involved in mass murder, Illegal war, torture, kidnap and propaganda. Do you understand this? We are dealing with psychopathic people, they don't practice civility diplomacy when they call for our murder or imprisonment.
What have any of us done to confront these globalist pigs? It's put up or shut up time people. Our country is under attack from within. Ron Paul has warned us many times about the impending police state. Are you willing to stand and defend this country..... Alex Jones is.
I love watching globalist squirm.
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Submitted by winstonkirk on Tue, 08/26/2008 - 21:18.
I wasn't disgruntled when I came into the movement either. AJ didn't wake me up, but he did provide a huge portion of my early education in the movement. I've found that giving someone "Terror Storm" or "End Game" (or even showing them the Bohemian Grove footage) does far more to wake people up than giving them a Ron Paul flier. Once someone goes to AJ, being a hard core Ron Paul advocate is soon to come. The funny thing is that, while some slow people may be Jones devotees, he is more effective at waking up really smart people than any lecture series I've ever tried. Doctors and engineers don't continue to follow him religiously once they wake up but he does get them started. Doesn't work for all, but Jones creates activists, not just talkers.
My experience in local 9/11 truth work (not a good topic for some but its indicative) showed me that AJ listeners were far more active in waking people up than non listeners.
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Submitted by October2007 on Tue, 08/26/2008 - 19:08.
I wasn't disgruntled and listened to AJ. Also, the average person is average because they didn't take the time to listen and study what AJ screams about.
You might disagree with AJ, but he's been very successful at convincing people that we shouldn't trust our current system of big government.
Ron Paul says it all the time: "Freedom brings people together"... And he's absolutely correct.
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AJ is not a silver-tongued slicky with a mouthful of lies lullying us to sleep, but rather a, "I'm Mad As Hell and I Won't Take It Anymore!" wake-you-up type that is doing just that - waking people up!
He's rough around the edges, but he's doing his best to bullhorn the truth to those who will hear it! There is a definite method to his madness that seems to be working!
Submitted by midwest_rpfan on Tue, 08/26/2008 - 17:20.
I really don't think that we can be passive and subtle any more. My only concern is that the media might spin it another way. However, at the end of the day he is fighting for ME AND YOU, and the future of America. Once people what he is really about, they get it. Wars are not pretty or nice and this technically is a war. Still the media is going to spin it any way that they want. Does it really matter at this point? We have more to lose by not being vocal. We all need to talk to at least 1 person everyday about this movement!
Submitted by shesapainter on Tue, 08/26/2008 - 17:59.
join your local wearechange.org group. if you don't have one, start one. it's fun because when you see there are more people awake then you know it's energizing. i wouldn't have found ron paul if someone hadn't turned me on to alex jones. you gotta give him credit for some things.
Submitted by MMJ Ministry on Tue, 08/26/2008 - 16:19.
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Wow, I really stirred a turd
Wow, I really stirred a turd didn't I!
I love being back!
Don't get me wrong folks, I think Alex is a good guy who means well, but his way of delivering the message is not going to cut it if we wish to get to the next level. There is a point of limited returns with regards to scaring people.
I guess in the end it all depends on what you want.
Do you want to push a small number of people to the point of violence, or do you want to develop a message that will create a voting block that can't be ignored?
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like we don't have enough feeble liberals already...
First we need Alex Jones then get politically educated then do our inside job on them.
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I'd say we need about a
I'd say we need about a thousand Alex Jones' running around. It would sure beat the lazy ass sunshine patriots around my neck of the woods who won't get off their butts to do anything to help. All lip service and no action. It takes a pair of basket ball sized gonads to stick your neck out on the front line like AJ does, and I'm not even a fan.
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wow guys and gals-
we all have our roles. alex jones reaches people. that is a fact. he also turns other people off. that is a fact. there- nuff said.
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If you fight power with power ...
If you battle evil with evil ...
If you shout over other's shouts ...
If you attack the attacker ...
If you do this while while rebelling against a powerful, evil empire that uses the MSM to shout its message to the masses and you win a triumphant victory against all odds.
Guess what you get in its place?
With these tactics one is trying to get people to choose freedom before first getting them to choose to exist. In a way you are forcing freedom onto the non existant masses that are already used to things being forced upon them.
You can not win freedom in this fashion.
That is why freedom is so hard to achieve.
There is not easy way to achieve it.
Our mission is two fold and must be done in the proper order.
You know what to do.
We all have our roles.
WAHOR!!
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Blah Blah Blah .. Exploding Styrafoam..
Blah Blah Blah.. Inertia isn't real.
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What does your dad think of you?
I know everytime I do or say something this question always pops into my brain.
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Don't really know.
he died in 1999.. Now you want to think again about how you are trying to play that respect your parents bullshit mind game.
Actually he would probably say glad you are sticking to your guns kiddo... He would see through your shit as if it were a double pained window freshly squeegeed..
He was good about detecting bullshit. He always liked to say I was born at night but it wasn't last night.
Guess I have good genes and all for being able to spot your ass a mile away.
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Sorry for your loss ...
that explains alot.
I will pray for you tonight.
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While you're praying....,
Pray for some common sense and discernment,so that you can understand that buildings do not fall symmetrically into the path of most resistance,due to some random fires,and minor structural damage.
Because if you can't see that Bldg 7 was a controlled demo,then,you might need to pray 3 or 4 times a day for the sense God gave a gnat.
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Hey look
What you're trying to do right there... It needs to stop. You don't know me. Don't begin to categorize in your head. All you need to know about me is that I am the guy that will point you out for what you are.. Period.
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He uses a bullshorn because he's weak.
He isn't smart enough to have a rational debate with someone. All he knows how to do yell at people and call names. To him, winning a debate is just overpowering the other person in rudeness, name-calling, or as in this case loudness. He's a weak idiot.
It's funny and entertaining sure, but if you think about it's really really idiotic.
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And preferred uses different screen names because HE'S WEAK.
At least Alex has the balls to face these criminals.
You don't even have the balls to admit how many different names you have used on this forum...,eh BillyDee?
You hide behind a computer and then change your name when everyone gets tired of smelling your BS,and the come back under a different one,only to be spotted by those that are used to your style of banter.
You are the coward. And a pathetic one at that.
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no no no
just yesterday Alex debated a anarcist who had a bullhorn and alex still won!
know your role. Alex knows his.
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Debating pyschopaths is futile.
It''s one thing to disparage a freedom fighter and it''s another to sit on the sidelines and type critical words behind a computer screen..
When the government finally cracks down on all of us then you too will be screaming but it may be for different reasons and it may be too late at that point.
We must confront the NWO shills at every turn, drive them out of our government and convict those who have destroyed our countries name.
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I dont think that those
I dont think that those people would actually let themselves be in a debate with him, so I think he is doing the right thing by discrediting them in any way possible
In order to discredit someone people have to be listening ...
The only people that will listen to this are AJ's followers.
All he is doing is insuring that he will no longer have the power to discredit anyone.
WAHOR!!
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WAHOR!!
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Considering I am a partial AJ follower
I am quite certain that you have been exposed quite thoroughly .. and I guarantee that AJ is sitting pretty with his power to discredit people compared to the likes of someone like you Rhino who thinks Styrofoam can cause concrete to explode.
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you are a liar, partially illiterate, and dumb ...
Here is what Oruval is referring to:
Devon:
We'll go with the official story... they assumed that the entire 3,500 gallons of jet fuel was confined to just one floor of the World Trade Center, that the jet fuel burnt with perfect efficency, that no hot gases left this floor, that no heat escaped this floor by conduction and that the steel and concrete had an unlimited amount of time to absorb all the heat.
Now each of the towers contained 96,000 (short) tons of steel. That is an average of 96,000/117 = 820 tons per floor. Lets suppose that the bottom floors contained roughly twice the amount of steel of the upper floors (since the lower floors had to carry more weight). So let's estimate that the lower floors contained about 1,100 tons of steel and the upper floors about 550 tons = 550 x 907.2 ≈ 500,000 kgs. We will assume that the floors hit by the aircraft contained the lower estimate of 500,000 kgs of steel. This generously underestimates the quantity of steel in these floors, and once again leads to a higher estimate of the maximum temperature.
Each story had a floor slab and a ceiling slab. These slabs were 207 feet wide, 207 feet deep and 4 (in parts 5) inches thick and were constructed from lightweight concrete. So each slab contained 207 x 207 x 1/3 = 14,283 cubic feet of concrete. Now a cubic foot of lightweight concrete weighs about 50kg, hence each slab weighed 714,150 ≈ 700,000 kgs. Together, the floor and ceiling slabs weighed some 1,400,000 kgs.
We still on the same page?
I inquired about lightweight concrete and added that decades ago they used to substitute styrofoam for aggregate to make light wieght concrete. Anyways this was touched on in several posts, but here is an important one from me:
Rhino:
If styrofoam was used as the aggregate substitute, there would be small pockets everywhere. When the polymer reaches a certain temperature, it could explode. Not saying it did, but this is a plausible scenerio.
One day later on 7/16 I posted the following:
Almost forgot, I wanted to hash out the concrete question also.
Personally, I think that there is a high probability that there was no styrofoam in the concrete, but has anybody proven this?
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Are you attacking my charachter.
Wow seems like your argument is weak.. that is usually what happens when you have no argument. I think people would like to know you don't agree with the Physics of Inertia.. Might give them a little bearing on what should be trusted coming out of your mouth.
Hey you should post the whole link next time it really tells the whole story.
http://forums.libertylove.org/?q=node/708
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That is absolutely false ...
The laws of physics are sound in my opinion.
Why don't you post it?
Or better yet, cherry pick to suit your needs.
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Hey do you wear glasses.
see that little link I put at the bottom of the post.. Yeah what were you saying again.
Yawn... I"m tired.. Good night
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Look forward to tomorrow.
God bless.
You will be in my prayers tonight.
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WAHOR!!
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I think you have plenty to pray for
Pray for yourself.. You need it more than I.
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You just described Bill O`Rielley perfectly!
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H'mmm
I'm not a die-hard Alex Jones fan but if he was gone I believe that he would be missed in this "fight of freedom".
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Now, vid-yo, appears that one is appropriate at this time.
I'm just teasingly heckling the thread master.
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Go get um Alex!
The corporate media deserves disruption. They are responsible for promoting the NWO line of propaganda. Down with MSM!
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I kinda wish Alex Jones
I kinda wish Alex Jones would go away. I think he might be doing more harm than good now.
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Go away??
you have been indoctrinated all your life to look down and think negatively when someone doesn't tow the line to what you've been brainwashed to believe is politically incorrect. With what is going on in the world to humanity would enrage a NORMAL person, and it SHOULD enrage us all. Alex Jones is doing and acting the way we should be IF we wanted change and if we were really angry. I have lost alot of friends and some family members feel we are overreacting and that is because we WONT just go with the program. I am tired of caring how people might think about me but I wont stop doing my part for THEM.
He's doing harm to the Establishment
He's not doing harm to the freedom movement whatsoever. He's showing us what we should be doing.
Where is the outrage with those who are destroying our country? Should we continue to placate to them with niceties while they conspire to eviscerate our Constitution and our freedoms?
Alex Jones is a great American!
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AJ is a Jackass
And does a great deal to hurt the freedom movement. by associating his buffoonery with the freedom movement, he makes the entire movement look crazed. Most people can not be convinced by yelling like this. They just dismiss him as a nut.
The reason some people like him is not because he is effective - he is not - rather he provides catharsis by doing what you wish you could do. He is sort of the road rage of the political world. .
I bet you'd have no problem with....
I bet you'd have no problem with....people screaming for a sports team right?
The people AJ is confronting are involved in mass murder, Illegal war, torture, kidnap and propaganda. Do you understand this? We are dealing with psychopathic people, they don't practice civility diplomacy when they call for our murder or imprisonment.
What have any of us done to confront these globalist pigs? It's put up or shut up time people. Our country is under attack from within. Ron Paul has warned us many times about the impending police state. Are you willing to stand and defend this country..... Alex Jones is.
I love watching globalist squirm.
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I used to think the same
I used to think the same thing as you Ironman77, but my perception has changed.
Regardless of whether we believe the mainstream 9-11 story or not, AJ is responsible for getting many people not to trust big government.
Once you don't trust government, the freedom philosophy sounds very appealing and we get more revolutionaries.
I don't know the true numbers , but I have a feeling AJ is turning more people on to the message of freedom than he is turning them off.
Hate em or love em, the 9/11 truth movement is growing very fast and is recruiting many people to our freedom movement.
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The pursuit of liberty is addictive... Let's make it contagious.
He's preaching to the Choir
Changing peoples minds on the freedom message requires that we engage them on their territory, not ours.
I suppose that AJ has organized the disgruntled, but has not made the average person look at this message, if anything he has made them turn away.
I wasn't disgruntled when I
I wasn't disgruntled when I came into the movement either. AJ didn't wake me up, but he did provide a huge portion of my early education in the movement. I've found that giving someone "Terror Storm" or "End Game" (or even showing them the Bohemian Grove footage) does far more to wake people up than giving them a Ron Paul flier. Once someone goes to AJ, being a hard core Ron Paul advocate is soon to come. The funny thing is that, while some slow people may be Jones devotees, he is more effective at waking up really smart people than any lecture series I've ever tried. Doctors and engineers don't continue to follow him religiously once they wake up but he does get them started. Doesn't work for all, but Jones creates activists, not just talkers.
My experience in local 9/11 truth work (not a good topic for some but its indicative) showed me that AJ listeners were far more active in waking people up than non listeners.
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"Freedom suppressed and again regained bites with keener fangs than freedom never endangered." -- Cicero
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"Freedom suppressed and again regained bites with keener fangs than freedom never endangered." -- Cicero
I wasn't disgruntled and
I wasn't disgruntled and listened to AJ. Also, the average person is average because they didn't take the time to listen and study what AJ screams about.
You might disagree with AJ, but he's been very successful at convincing people that we shouldn't trust our current system of big government.
Ron Paul says it all the time: "Freedom brings people together"... And he's absolutely correct.
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The pursuit of liberty is addictive... Let's make it contagious.
I agree w/you ...
AJ is not a silver-tongued slicky with a mouthful of lies lullying us to sleep, but rather a, "I'm Mad As Hell and I Won't Take It Anymore!" wake-you-up type that is doing just that - waking people up!
He's rough around the edges, but he's doing his best to bullhorn the truth to those who will hear it! There is a definite method to his madness that seems to be working!
I agree too...
I really don't think that we can be passive and subtle any more. My only concern is that the media might spin it another way. However, at the end of the day he is fighting for ME AND YOU, and the future of America. Once people what he is really about, they get it. Wars are not pretty or nice and this technically is a war. Still the media is going to spin it any way that they want. Does it really matter at this point? We have more to lose by not being vocal. We all need to talk to at least 1 person everyday about this movement!
ditto!
join your local wearechange.org group. if you don't have one, start one. it's fun because when you see there are more people awake then you know it's energizing. i wouldn't have found ron paul if someone hadn't turned me on to alex jones. you gotta give him credit for some things.
isn't it about time
we got pissed ? I am.
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“We have allowed our nation to be over taxed and over regulated and overrun by bureaucrats, the founders would be ashamed of us for what we're putting up with” Ron Paul
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"If people let government decide which foods they eat and medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny."
Thomas Jefferson