Dennis Kucinich's DNC Speech. "Wake Up America!"
Posted August 27th, 2008 by gabulldawg79
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Regardless of philosophy DK is a true Patriot. Enjoy Americans.
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He's great on Privacy and Foreign Policy issues,
but he's a complete MORON when it comes to the issues of economic and social policies.
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I like Dennis Kucinich, but he forgot one thing...Wake Up America: 911 Was An Inside Job!
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He's solid on only a few issues. But I cannot believe some people constantly post Kucinich garbage regularly because of those issues.
This man said today and I quote "health care is a right". If you can point out the enormous FUNDAMENTAL flaw with that statement then you will understand why so many people do not like him.
Dennis sounds like...
a good little socialist to me...who's going to pay for the reduction of carbon emissions? who's going to pay for health care for all? why are they going to take my hard earned money, and my freedoms...and give me more bureaucracy? how can it be afforded? sounds like slavery to me....
Most of you haven't been listening...
Not only was Kucinich the only person in congress to present articles of impeachment (late or not, NO ONE ELSE DID) but he has also been a strong advocate in supporting Ron Paul, even at the risk of not being true to his democratic party, he said, while he was still running, without hesitation, that he would want Ron Paul as a VP, this in turn helped draw suppporters of his who would not even look in RP's direction to take notice, I would not doubt that many even started supporting RP after Dennis dropped out. I also would not doubt that the opinions and closed-minded, and often ignorant manner in which many of you carry on had pushed them right back over to the left side of the spectrum. Maybe it is some of you who need to Wake Up! Watch our man here on Kucinich: http://ca.youtube.com/wat...
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"Truth is treason in the Empire of Lies."
He says they only agree on the war
and disagree on economics. That's a huge difference. Paul is capitalist and Kucinich is a socialist.
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Don't blame me if there's no voice for liberty opposing McCain and Obama in the Presidential debates. I donated to Ron Paul Libertarian, Bob Barr's campaign.
Watch it to the end...
Even Ron Paul states that he would be willing to compromise on social programs if the conditions were right that we could afford it.
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"Truth is treason in the Empire of Lies."
Not quite.
He says he would only accept saving money from overseas spending to take care of people reliant on social programs, as a "transition period," on the way to eliminating them.
This is not Kucinich's philosophy. His philosophy is that government (taxpayers) has a responsibilty to take care of people. It's completely upside down to what Ron Paul believes, that the people should be self reliant and take care of each other through voluntary means rather than be forced to by welfare state.
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Don't blame me if there's no voice for liberty opposing McCain and Obama in the Presidential debates. I donated to Ron Paul Libertarian, Bob Barr's campaign.
Quote from Kucinch:
"Provide work not welfare for those able to work." The only big difference is what to do about those who are unable to work, and where their support should come from, Ron Paul says charities, Kucinich believes government should be able to take care of it's people at times when they need it. Both seem to agree that due to the conditions we have now, pulling the plug on SS, medicare, etc., would hurt many people, neither of them want that, and you cannot just suddenly rely on "charity" to jump in and help some 85 yr. old on a small pension and reliant on SS and medicare if you just dumped the system suddenly, it's a nice dream, it just is not feasible, morality has declined, people are less concerned about their fellow citizens. It's not going to be an easy transition to self reliance.
"Truth is treason in the Empire of Lies."
Provide work?
The government should not be providing work or welfare. It should only be protecting liberty. Kucinich believing that goverment should take care of people and Paul believing it should be charities is a HUGE difference. It's the difference between socialism and libertarianism. Yes, I know that Paul is in favor of a gradual elimination. But Kucinich in not in favor of that elimination. He wants to EXPAND the welfare state. Paul wants to eliminate the minium wage. Kucinich want to increase it. And so on.
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Good point. The most
Good point.
The most capitalism you can get from liberal Democrats is New Deal talk about "providing jobs". Still socialist, big government drivel!
Anyway gotta run!
I need to hit the sack, 6 a.m. comes early, just don't want anyone to think i am ignoring them if I no longer respond. G'nite all!
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"Truth is treason in the Empire of Lies."
I love it.
You are still under the premise that it's two parties in today's America. Thomas Jefferson was a democrat. What's up with that.
Thomas Jefferson was not a socialist.
"Democrat" is not a philosophy. It's just the name of a party. Being a Democrat doesn't not make one a socialist. That's not what this about.
Thomas Jefferson was a "Democratic Republican," by the way, not a "Democrat."
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Preferred rises 2 points on the respect-o-meter.
I get tired of hearing "Thomas Jefferson was a democrat", "Thomas Jefferson was a liberal". (Then some sophistry about the dictionary definition of the words.)
Jefferson was far, far to the Right, politically, of any leader in either of the two big government tax-and-spend parties.
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Nor is Kucinich a total Socialist.
Hey actually who do you think is more Liberal McCain or Kucinich?
He's socialist
socialist enough to be accurately be called a socialist.
“It is time for new thinking. Instead of the oil companies taking over ANWR for drilling, we ought to be talking about taking over the oil companies. They have gouged the American people. They control our politics. They have ignored the growing global environmental crisis. The lust for oil has put us on a path to war. It is time for new thinking. We should be talking about a windfall profits tax, breaking up the oil monopolies, or even taking over the oil companies, not sacrificing ANWR. Esau thought his birthright didn’t mean much. Will we, like Esau, come to regret that we have never claimed our right to control over our own natural resources, our own environment, our own nation?" -Kucinich
The statement that society has a natural right to own resources in common, IS socialism. That's THE premise of socialism. Of course he's a socialist. And only a socialist advocates a government takeover of oil companies. That's what Chavez did.
Besides not caring that all the socialism he wants is not permitted by the Constitution, he also wants ban handguns..
Kuninch is definitely more "liberal" than McCain. How can you even ask that with a straight face?
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Don't blame me if there's no voice for liberty opposing McCain and Obama in the Presidential debates. I donated to Ron Paul Libertarian, Bob Barr's campaign.
Seriously McCain is about as liberal as they come.
He was wanting to be Kerry's VP in 2004 for Christs sake. However Dennis is thinking in America's best interest and not the Globalist community. Yes I know he's socialist.. But he's thinking America first and not the Industrial Military Complex. Plus too he and Ron Paul are good friends.. regardless of his liberalism.. which is more than I can say about the Neo-Cons in the GOP.
Both McCain and Kucinich are
Both McCain and Kucinich are extremely liberal, though.
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yeah i agree wtih all the posts below
dennis lost my confidence.
it's just a game to him.
and did you all see all those democrats? holy crap.
they DO need someone wiping their assholes for them. fuck.
Obama vote for fisa bill to
Obama vote for fisa bill to wire tap.. dennis said that the wire taping was from bush admin at 3;36 into the video.....
everyone in the crowd got real quite when he mentioned the wire taping thinking he was gonna say Obama.. but he blamed it on bush
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He lost my attention at "We
He lost my attention at "We let the speculators take over wall street!"
Implying that he would rather have the government take over wall street? That seems to have worked well in the past...
"The sinews of war are infinite money" ~ Cicero
impeach Kucinich
for stealing from the hard working Americans and giving it to the lazy scum.
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Me thinks that DK first drank the cool-aid, then grabed his nose and towed the party line with this "speech." This is an example of political expediency to the hilt for the sake of 15 seconds of fame. However, DK neglected to site his sources used in this bit of rhetorical, gibberish nonsense. We saw right through this crap, but I doubt few others in attendence did.
I say the following without reservation:
If the situation was reversed and if given the same opportunity to deliver a party-generated contrived speech at the RNC extolling the virtues of John McCain, I am 100% certain that Ron Paul would decline.
That is the difference between "us" and "them."
I know all of you would say the very same thing. We are idealists in what we believe and and expect no less of people that we support. We have had a great teacher to enable us to quickly identify the crap from truth.
Now that's the way
to talk to brain dead americans! Why didn't he jump around and spout Obamaisms like that during the race?
It was painful to hear him say up with jobs, up with wages and in the same breath say up with free trade. Ughhh
He forgot to mention ...
There's not a dime's worth of difference between Obama's brand of black power communism and McCain's brand of lily white Nazism for the little guys ... who get all the grief and pay all the bills in either system.
Very self-serving, if you ask me! Yes, it was a chance for DK to garner national attention but, what good does that do him? His listeners, much as they cheer, are powerless to choose the candidates they like and those who do choose the candidates would never choose DK!
He should have kept his mouth shut.
wtf?
I had to shut this off when he said ''Up with Obama!! I am furious.He doesn't get it.What a hypocrite he is!! Up with Ron Paul. I will write him in.To hell with the others. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Oh Dennis Kucinich... if
Oh Dennis Kucinich... if only you weren't such a blatant socialist.....
Wake up?
I don't think that crowd really knew what "wake up" meant.
The vast majority of them don't yet understand liberty... at least i don't think they do.
To them, "wake up" means "it's time for a black president" or "change" (which even they're not sure of what that means)...
haha.
They're just baah-baah-baah-ing at the guy on stage.
sheep.
That's not what it meant to him either.
He wasn't talking about wanting liberty. He was talking about wanting socialism. That is, he wants inceasing government control of businesses by increasing regulations on them and forcing them to raise wages, forcing them to hire people, and even advocating outright government takeover of oil companies. He's for redistribution of wealth by increases taxes on the wealthier and giving it to the less wealthy in order to have a more egalitatarian wealth distribution, increasing and adding more social welfare programs, etc.
He's not talking about liberty. He's talking about socialism.
Yes, wake up America.
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Don't blame me if there's no voice for liberty opposing McCain and Obama in the Presidential debates. I donated to Ron Paul Libertarian, Bob Barr's campaign.
I agree.
He said "Wake up America!" - "Up with Obama/Biden" - "Higher Wages" - "Free Trade" - and a whole lotta other BS -
all in the same speech.
lol.
yes Mr. Kucinich, they are awake ... in the Matrix to which they're plugged into.
forgive a little downer
one thing that this speech accompishes is the subvertion of the liberty cause. people who are on the sides,not sure of their minds yet,but have started to hear these issues,will "rally" to the democratic party because they will "think"[read conditioned/sbliminal suggestion] that these people,obama and dk,are really fighting for these issues.
letting dk give this speech is a gamble by the spindoctors.i see them aimed squarely to the undecided americans,republicans or otherwise--like the commentary on the pat buchanan "go to ron paul rally" video thread.
these people are usurping the wave of the undecided--though personally,i think dk is a good person being used,he is loved now bec of his [bush] impeachment hearing reputation,making him a credible "seller" of the usurpation.
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Time to hone our words
We have been saying "wake up." So now the CFR is using our words. We mean wake up to the elite shadow government. Wake up to the fact that our country is being swept into the dustpan of the New World Order. Wake up, we are losing our country and our freedoms are being removed so that our money and our way of life can "conform" to a United People around the world with only one power government. As usual, just like all the neocons, they use our words to make it sound like they agree with us. Wake up to them means, "Vote the Republicans out. Wake up and see what they are doing to us, to our country. Vote for us and you will prove that you are very aware and intelligent voters."
Their wake up is like a mom waking a baby so that she will sleep through the night later on. Our "wake up" really means, "Paradigm shift" used as a verb.
We should let them use the vague term "wake up" and we should come up with something more descriptive. Seek the truth, remove the veil, Learn the secrets, discover the truth, ulterior motives, underlying agenda.
Up with Socialism!
Yay!
Wake up America! It's time for socialism!
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Don't blame me if there's no voice for liberty opposing McCain and Obama in the Presidential debates. I donated to Ron Paul Libertarian, Bob Barr's campaign.
Ugh!
Ugh!
DK
Speculaters are just that speculating on a price jump . They do not create the jump , product exchange creates the price.
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Speakin'
Speakin' as a "Demoncrat"!
As if they are going to stop the cycle by votin' in "The Slickster Trickster".
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Demoncrats never raised a fist to resist king george and queen dick per Iraq war, Executive Orders destroying "Our Sovereignty"!
Resisted not the "illegal invasion" supported by corporate greed!
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Demoncrats resisted not king george in allowing him to pardon himself!
Demoncrats resisted not the Patriot Act(s)!
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Don't miss the bigger picture
DK is good friends with Dr. Paul and even came out and spoke at the March on Washington back in July. I trust Dr. Paul's judgement on DK. Based on some of the comments I have read I feel like many people here do not understand what Dr. Paul message of liberty is all about. Like I said before I don't agree with much of DK's ideology or philosophy because I am a conservative but that is the case with most Americans and thats the way the founders envisioned it. All ideas would be heard. We all have different beliefs on how to fix things and what is the best way to go about it. I personally as a professional scholar and teacher embrace contrasting opinions, it keeps me level. The problem I have is not when someone disagrees with me philosophically its when that person or group tries to circumvent the law and Constitution to meet their ends, which becomes illegal and immoral. DK stood there in front of thousands last night, and in front of more at home watching and mentioned several of the major problems we have with this country. Many of these same problems that have been debated on here. How many times have I read "wake up" on the dailypaul. In the end it doesn't matter if DK believe's his speech (although I believe he does), he laid many of the problems we need to fix right in front of all the Americans watching which furthers the cause of liberty. He did it without harming any other person and without violating any laws or the Constitution. He gave the message that so many people on here have been trying to spread, and yet because his ideology is different some would rather attack him. Very few people in his position are promoting the message of liberty or pointing out our problems in a public forum such as DK did. Do not be so blind by ideological differences that you miss the bigger picture.
Attack, attack, attack
I do not see this as attacking HIM. People are concerned because they know the arrow is missing the target. The word attack is overused, like the word hate. If someone puts thought to "this isn't quite right," it is called an attack.
I too trust Dr. Paul's judgement on the man. I agree with you that liberty means you are free to have your point of view as to how to correct a problem.
Yes, you do read "wake up" here. Now we need to change that phrase, because it has been claimed in another ideology. We need to now be more specific as I have mentioned in a post above. Actually you say he gave the message we want to spread, but he didn't. He didn't explain anything at all about the fact that our government is being operated by people we are not electing. That our elections are not dependable. That our government has gotten so huge under the two twin parties that the people can no longer tell IT what to do. IT now tells us. Just like the neocons, he successfully rallied the troops (people) to follow the same thing they have been following for years and years. He did nothing to make them see what is really, really going on.
I like Dennis, but he sounded like a cheer leader for everyone who is taking the podium there. He makes it sound as if a voter will be very intelligent and do the right thing for this country if they just vote for the candidate of the Democrat Party. I wanted to say, "Wake up, Dennis."
He's using outrage against the war and dismay with the economy
as an excuse to push taking away more of our individual/business economic liberties and promote and institute socialism in this country.
It's the same as those who use the war as an excuse to limit civil liberties, except for him it's economic liberties he wants to take away. He's just the other half of authoritarianism.
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Don't blame me if there's no voice for liberty opposing McCain and Obama in the Presidential debates. I donated to Ron Paul Libertarian, Bob Barr's campaign.
Amen
Great job of explaining this. We are supposed to welcome other's viewpoints in a free society. It does keep us balanced. We, who's minds have been opened, are attacking this guy? There is a reason that he is good friends with RP. Bring some non-predetermined thinking to the table folks!
Amazing how a man can be so
Amazing how a man can be so right and so wrong in a single sentence. He clearly has a grasp on what the government is doing to us, but cannot see that the dems are just as guilty as the repubs, if not, more so. Wake up Dennis Kucinich!! You are half way there, take the next step!
reminds me of a song
Reel Big Fish... "Sell out! with me oh yea.. SELL OUT, with me tonight..."
I wish he would wake up and see the real causes of the problems he talks about.
It's asinine to blame "Wall Street speculators"
for high oil prices. Speculators and high prices serve a purpose. When the prices goes up due to speculation, it lets us know to conserve so as to prevent a shortage when it is predicted supplies are not increasing fast enough for demand or the supplies my be at risk of disruption by war. If prices stay low, consumers don't recieve the proper signal and they exhaust supplies. Not understanding really basic market economic principles like this is a huge problem in this country, especially so among socialists like Kucinich who think central economic planning and regulation can improve on an unregulated market.
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Don't blame me if there's no voice for liberty opposing McCain and Obama in the Presidential debates. I donated to Ron Paul Libertarian, Bob Barr's campaign.
exactly. THAT is what many
exactly. THAT is what many people are growing sick of. The blame game. How's this for an idea. GET THE F**K OUT OF THE WAY!!! By constant meddling in the economy we've gotten nothing but ever increasing problems from government. WAKE UP AMERICA! The democrats and republicans are ripping you off!!!
speculation has little to do
speculation has little to do with rising oil prices... its the dollar being devalued that causes the price of oil and everything else to go up. do you even listen to what Ron Paul says?
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It has a lot to do with rising prices.
The market determines prices. Speculators are market participants. They're trading based on inflation predictions as well.
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Don't blame me if there's no voice for liberty opposing McCain and Obama in the Presidential debates. I donated to Ron Paul Libertarian, Bob Barr's campaign.