Opinion Needed About Anti-Semitism
Opinions by those who practice Judaism Needed
http://republican.meetup....
A Meetup Site in NE Florida working with the Republican Liberty Caucus posted information regarding the Neo-Conservatives and has been working to promote the Cause of Liberty.
A group in South Florida called Americans Against Hate http://www.americansagain... are attacking the liberty movement for speaking against the Neo-Conservatives and AIPACS influence on U.S. Foreign Policy.
Americans Against Hate issued an widely broadcast email all over Florida the night before the Florida primary election this week smearing the Liberty candidates as being anti-Semitic. I received the email and am trying to figure all of this out.
The email and press release sent our looks like this:
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AMERICANS AGAINST HATE CALLS ON RLC TO REMOVE HATE MATERIAL FROM SITE AND TO DISCIPLINE OFFENDERS
( Jacksonville , FL ) Americans Against Hate (AAH) is calling on the National office of the Republican Liberty Caucus (RLC) to take action against one of its chapters, the RLC of Northeast Florida, for posting anti-Semitic material on its website.
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AAH Chairman Joe Kaufman stated, "The anti-Jewish content found on the RLC Northeast Florida website is both offensive and dangerous. It goe s way beyond simple criticism of Israel and those that support the Jewish state. We call on the RLC leadership to take the necessary action against its Northeast Florida chapter. That includes taking down the offensive material and possibly cutting ties with those that are responsible for its existence on the website." (END)
The RLC does not promote association with bigots, hate-mongers: anti-Semites, white supremacists, anti-Muslims, or discrimination based upon religious affiliation.
The RLC has blacks, whites, gays, athiest, jewish by religion, Israeli by heritage, Baptist, Catholic, Athiest, Mormon, Lebanese, Indian (India), Hindu, etc. They have 1 test - Liberty and the US Constitution and US Sovereignty. All are welcome. The message of freedom will unite all races, sex, orientation, religion and ethnicity.
So please review the website the AAH has a problem with and let us know if there is anything that is offensive.
I would especially like to hear from anyone who practices judaism or has family that from Israel to give their opinion of the link above.
Those concerned about the intimidation techniques against the liberty candidtes are asked to respectfully contact and ask him to put America 1st.
Americans Against Hate
Mr. Joe Kaufman
joe4rep@gate.net
In Liberty,
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neturei karta - anti zionist jewish organization
http://www.nkusa.org
The real Haters HATE THE TRUTH
Haters like Americans Against Hate use the race card as a weapon.
They never deal with the context of the articles they rail against.
Only use emotional braying like..... youse is an anti-semite... blah blah blah
Its time to call these idiots on the carpet for the REAL HATERS that they are.
It is time to start braying back... Khazars crying WOLF
Most folks I know are getting sick and tired of these sycophants constantly slandering, libeling and impugning other peoples good characters, because they do not like the truth they are spreading.
The correct name of Kaufmans organization should be -
Khazars who HATE,
not Americans vs Hate.
Racism is the tool of the elites.
Anyone else using it as a weapon to assault others with are tools of the elite as well.
As for the RP Meet up group that was exposing who dun 911 kudos to them.
Personally I think that the subject matter ...
on the links is not an issue.
But, the amount of time spent on zionism and aipac can be misconstrued.
It can be perceived as an unhealthy preoccupation with the subject.
I have a big issue with the entire list of links.
The links address power. They are preaching the evils of power.
The message should be freedom. Where are all the links about freedom and the movement?
WAHOR!!
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Good point
However, this page is one of many on many different topics.
http://republican.meetup....
Can I get your opinion on this documentary?
"Peace, Propaganda & The Promised Land"
Peace, Propaganda & the Promised Land provides a striking comparison of U.S. and international media coverage of the crisis in the Middle East, zeroing in on how structural distortions in U.S. coverage have reinforced false perceptions of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. This pivotal documentary exposes how the foreign policy interests of American political elites--oil, and a need to have a secure military base in the region, among others--work in combination with Israeli public relations strategies to exercise a powerful influence over how news from the region is reported.
http://video.google.com/v...
Who Governs the Governless?
I'm 100% Jewish and have a
I'm 100% Jewish and have a lot of family in Israel. I've even lived there for one year. I'm also a huge believer in the freedom message and understand that Liberty is what we need to have a better life.
To me it's clear. The Israeli government is screwing over the Israeli people just like the American government is screwing over the American people. It's exactly the same. The people are being swindled all around the globe by a small minority of crazies.
I KNOW that the majority of people are good. I truly believe this.
Every religion; Judaism, Christianity, Muslim etc.. have their own garbage.
I also realized that there are some misguided Jews that take things a little too far. That's why I created a website before the Primaries to target Jews and convince them that Ron Paul was the best choice for Israel.
Here is the website: www.AmericansForIsrael.co...
Many people printed and spread our flyers all around synagogues across the country. It was great!
Many Jewish people across the country were introduced to the message of logic and reason through the flyer and website we created.
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The pursuit of liberty is addictive... Let's make it contagious.
I love your website
I presume you have read ron Paul's book?
Libera me, let the truth break, what my fears make--Leslie Phillips
Thanks. Yes, I read his
Thanks. Yes, I read his book. It's excellent. ;)
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The pursuit of liberty is addictive... Let's make it contagious.
your input is a welcome breath of fresh air
thanks
Thank you
You all are doing a great justice to liberty, the people of Israel and the American people.
So is there a link on the site that should be removed.
If so, why?
http://republican.meetup....
people need to read their dictionary...
from "The Original Webster's Unabridged Dictionary"1849
SEMITIC-See Shemitic
SHEMITIC-Pertaining to Shem...
SHEMITE- A descendant of Shem.
a Shemite cannot be "anti-semetic"...
in other words...
how can a semite be 'anti-semitic'? it is impossible...for all of the semitic/shemitic people are descendants of Shem...Noah's son. that includes most Arab people...and most Arab people even declare Abraham as their father also...so really...none of them are "anti-semitic' they are just anti-Israel. that is the true term and definition that should be used.
And remember
Khazars are NOT semeitic.
Whatever x -- we were looking for you earlier.
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looking for me, Lisa?
what do you guys need?
kat was here earlier, chris x, and was looking for ya.
I think she needed a ball of yarn to smack around and you seem to be her favorite.
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hehehe....good thing that she's been de-clawed...
sorry...i was busy earlier. you guys show up at the 'Rally for the Republic', and you can smack me around while Jesse Ventura is speaking. just as long as you don't bother me while Ron Paul is speaking...heh
I actually tried agaiin to get a flight.
Found one that would get me there in 25 hours instead of 55. Was tempted until I saw the price was $6500.
Have a great time.
BTW, kat is preparing for the hurricane.
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sorry to hear it...
i've heard what a plane ticket would cost from Hawaii...so i guess it does not surprise me to hear that it is that much from Australia. if you talk to Kat tell her i'll be praying for her protection from the hurricane.
These people throw out anti-semitism
just like obamites throw out racism.
It's all psychological warfare aimed at keeping the status quo and furthering the destruction of America.
My beef is with the Israeli
My beef is with the Israeli government. The Israeli people are very unique people, I have nothing against them whatsoever. I feel sorry for what the Israeli people are suffering thanks to the Zionists and wish them the best.
Zionism is bad MmMKay
Jewish people cool.. Zionists baddddd!
We should never let
a cry of racism or "anti-semitism" squash legitimate criticism.
http://www.dailypaul.com/...
You accused me last night armor
of being a Jew. I'm not a Jew but if I were, I'd be proud of that fact. Who goes around accusing people of things like that? It's like accusing someone of being Irish or Chinese! Yea, so?
You can hide behind your claims of being an anti-Zionist but, last night, you made it clear what you are.
Oh, BTW, what's my last name? You claimed it was Jewish based on the letter (who cares but you) -- what is it?
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I went to the site, and near the top of the home page
it has this banner:
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EVENTS
Join Americans Against Hate's Rally Against CAIR 2008
When: Saturday, March 1, 2008, 5:00 pm - 7:00 pm
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I about fell on the ground laughing!
Join the "hate rally" by "Americans Against Hate".
Can you say, "Hypocrites with a Neocon agenda"?
And judging by Joe's email address, he's running for office.
Be sure to remember his name, so you can vote against him.
Don't support a Hate Group, like "Americans Against Hate".
I dis-like the government of Israel,
as much as I dis-like the government of the U.S.
Both governments cater to the corporate elite.
Both governments put profit ahead of peace.
War at times may be necessary, but not if the purpose of the war is to generate profits for the military industrial complex or the rich bankers.
The palestinian people are absolutely oppressed by the Jewish government. They have about a 40 per cent unemployment rate. That is the real reason behind the conflict. POVERTY.
If America had a similar un-employment rate, then a civil war would shortly ensue.
My biggest "beef" with the Israeli's is that they have become what they hated in Nazi Germany, oppression, lies, power struggles, genocide.
And anybody that speaks out, is instantly labelled anti-semetic. what a bunch of crap.
Let the truth be told, and let the truth speak for itself.
Digg AP report on Haaretz - It may be of help & GO Ron Paul GO
Author of fake Holocaust memoir admits: I'm not even Jewish
By The Associated Press
http://www.haaretz.com/ha...
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It was a shock to Misha Defonseca's readers this year when she admitted that the best-selling story of her tortured childhood during the Holocaust was false, but her U.S. publisher saw it as an opportunity to undo a stinging, 7-year-old court judgment.
Jane Daniel says she never would have been ordered to pay Defonseca and her ghost writer $32.4 million over her handling of profits from "Misha: A Memoire of the Holocaust Years" had the jury known the book was filled with lies.
Defonseca never lived with wolves to escape the Nazis, never killed a German soldier in self-defense, never walked 3,000 miles across Europe in search of her parents. Contrary to the book's claims, Defonseca admitted in February that she isn't even Jewish.
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Here is my comment. I am
Here is my comment. I am Jewish. Our people (my ancestors) for centuries through today, have been picked on, persecuted, and name-called, perhaps more and longer than any other religious group in existence. Being defensive and sensitive and protective has certainly found its way into our genes. I would say, QUITE truthfully, that if you do not want to be called anti-semitic, that you just plain stop talking, about Jews as a group. Most of us are well educated, and have tried very hard to make a good living. We are an artistic and humanitarian group, mostly, and we abhor injustice. Like every other ethnic group, we have some that are horrible, I am sure. However, because of the history, you can not safely even go after the horrible ones, once you say they are Jewish, without being branded as an Anti-Semite.
Thems the facts, Jack..
My only problem with those
My only problem with those who cry "anti-semitism" is that, as far as I am concerned, Judaism is a religion, not an ethnicity.
Certainly there has been enormous persecution of Jews throughout the centuries, but what is a Jew? I would argue that a person with a "Jewish-sounding" last name, who is a practicing atheist/agnostic, is no more a Jew than a person with an Irish-sounding last name who worships Yeshua.
There is no such thing as a "Catholic race"--why is there such a thing as a "Jewish race"?
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hmmm
I wonder why the chosen people have been prosecuted for centuries wherever they ended up...
Ron Paul must be an anti-semite because he would cut off the lifeblood of money Americans are working so hard for and thru some funny channels travelling to Tel Aviv...
What a stupid post.
You know Ron would cut off ALL funding to foreign countries.
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wow yet another retardess
hello retarded Lisa C.
Do some research and find out how much money they've been getting (per person) from us and Europeans (specially Germans) after they benefitted from WW2. First in form of loans then in form of grants.
What they get for just being Jews will make our welfare system look like a drop in a tank of water.
Yes it's always stupid for the uneducated to be showered with information they don't want to hear.
Coming from you? *shug*
I'm retarded because I understand that Ron would end funding to all foreign countries and not just Israel?
You missed the point entirely. Never said that Israel wasn't getting money from the US.
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that's right; it's a created problem
"Those who make peaceful change impossible, make violent revolution inevitable."
--JFK
In the same spirit, those who make peaceful accountability impossible, make violent backlash inevitable. Those who use "anti-Semitic" and "hate" labels to squelch all accountability of any Jews or Zionists, make it inevitable that there will be anger generated when Jews/Zionists do wrong -- which, since they are exactly as human as everyone else, they sometimes will. The distortion in the free market of ideas, in this case, is being caused by the attempt to place certain people and/or people groups beyond challenge. The results of this effort are predictable, just like any attempt to distort any free market via force.
When people have become fearful of calling someone -- anyone -- to account, there is already a problem. Squelching speech, at that point, is not going to remove the problem; it will exacerbate the problem. Just as Ron talks about the need to allow the economy to correct the bad financial choices which have already been made, the "economy of ideas" must be allowed to flush out the bad ideas which have been propagated within it, along with their unhealthy effects. The means for that are mundane to all of us freedom-lovers: free speech and freedom of association. With that in mind, go back and re-read the letter from the self-appointed gatekeeper, and the entire situation becomes plain, IMO.
The challenge for us is to walk the line between being too tolerant of intolerant voices such as Mr. Kaufman's and becoming intolerant ourselves. Ideas must be fought with ideas, not force; tangentially, that's the essence of our objection to the so-called "Global War on Terror".
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How do we address aipac
The things you mention make it so difficult to address.
Joe Klein who is jewish does a great job of addressing this issue. Joe writes for time magazine.
He states that there is a small minority of Jews trying to speak for the majority.
The same thing has happened to the jewish community that has happened to the Republican party that has happened in Israel withthe Likuud. A small minority has asserted itself and is claiming to speak for the majority.
However, the majority of Jews are waking up and stating the neo-cons do not speak for them.
Have you looked at the site?
http://republican.meetup....
What is your perspective of AIPAC?
Yeh, but there is a small
Yeh, but there is a small minority of people everywhere that take up the reins of the stallions of change. All we gotta do is stop naming names, and start riding together, and we will no longer BE a minority, anything.
But when you speak against AIPAC
But when you speak against AIPAC - A Lobbyist - They counter that you are anti-semitic. How can you respond to that?
You can't. It is almost
You can't. It is almost impossible. If you say "some of my best friends are Jewish"..you are anti-semitic. I told you, as soon as you mention the word Jewish, you are anti-semitic, they don't care. I guess I would say "sticks and stones will break my bones, but names will NEVER hurt me". Then just talk about something else. Jews are way too sensitive. In the genes.
It is not just a religion, because I do not practice it, yet I "look" Jewish. I act like a Jew, I have been told. If we were not a nationality before we became believers in One God, we became a nationality after that from intermarriage and society. I think we are an ethnic group now, and we even "have" a country. Many people are prejudiced against some other people. Their reasons are usually reasonable, altho prejudice is vile. I can even understand being prejudicial towards Jews, because I believe we DO share ethnic qualities that some may not like. These qualities do NOT include wanting to take over any world, I can assure you)..
I'm against prejudice toward
I'm against prejudice toward Jews, but I also dislike political correctness.
Because political correctness, at its base, is oppression, often based on double standards.
On the nationality/ethnicity angle: One can just as easily say that Catholics are a race as Jews. The root of Jewish society is the practice of Jewish rituals and religion. That's the formative culture that separates them. Catholic culture is handed down through generations in much the same way. Yet no one would be ridiculous enough (at least at this point in history) to claim he's a genetic Catholic. You'll never hear anyone say "well, I'm an atheist, but I'm a member of the Catholic race." Because people understand Catholicism is a religion.
White supremacists (who are legion on the Internet) are quick to point out that Jews are a race, not a religion. Politically correct Jews agree with them.
I reject the concept. A religion does not magically transform into a race.
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It's their hide-and-seek game.
That's how they get out of being scrutinized for their evil.
Ask them to prove to you that they are Semitic.
Over 90% of Jewish people are NOT Semitic.
Therefore, any criticism is not "anti-Semitic".
Study up..