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Likely motion for voice vote for McCain by acclamation!

No question in my mind that there will not be a roll call vote state by state.

Instead the Republicans will follow the Democrats example and call for suspension of the procedural rules to allow for a voice vote for McCain by acclamation.

No way will they risk having McCain fall short of the number of votes he needs for the nomination.

There will be a call for the AYEs and no call for the nays!

The AYEs will have it according to the speaker and that will be that!

I wish it were otherwise but if you think they will tolerate a chance for McCain to come up short, think again.

The same Fed Reserve System bankers who manipulated the main stream media to bury and black out Ron Paul will exert their influence at the convention to shut Ron Paul supporters out.

Sad to anticipate but that is what I predict will happen. I hope that our side will figure out an overwhelming response to keep our dream alive.

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If they try to

pull a fast one on us. Every Paul delegate should be booing as loud as humanly possible, and a delegate closest to the stage should throw a chair up at the podium. (Not to hit or hurt anyone, but to get the television cameras attention!) Keep up the booing, have someone move to nominate Paul by acclimation, have someone ready to second it, then erupt into YAY's! :-)

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Here I think is a simple,

Here I think is a simple, yet very effective plan if it does come down to a vote by acclamation...

TURN YOUR BACKS, AND BOOOO. I would say "ney," because it sounds alot like "yeh!"

TURN YOUR BACKS, AND BOO AS LOUD AS POSSIBLE.

Sorry for the caps, but this is a great post and obviously very important. Great job recognizing the voice vote acclamation from the DNC.

Spread the word....is there any other better way to prevent this from happening?

SPREAD THE WORD

Turn around, and boo.

Or just don't show up....but I think if that happens, they will find a way to fill the floor and somehow pull off a vote by acclamation with non-delegates.

If it comes down to a vote by acclamation, the delegates must turn their backs, and boo.

That would not be an acclamation. The old media will not be able to say the convention is united. A real vote MUST happen. Procedures MUST be known to prevent this. It's time to do our Constitutional homework.

>>>>to prevent nomination by

>>>>to prevent nomination by acclamation

If it does come down to this, simply booooooooooooooooooo. An acclamation is a voice vote. Boo as loud as is humanly possible.

Hopefully, procedures will be in place to prevent such a farce from happening.

Here's another idea for the delegates.....don't show up.

It's great to think outside of the box, but sometime the simple things work best. Keep it simple, and our message will be clear.

Did Anyone Catch That Rons Training Program

Sunday, August 31
Real Politics Training School
Noon - 9:00pm
( SOLD OUT!! )

is before the convention. Hmmm I wonder if this is going to be to prep the delegates with a mini course on how to make sure they get control of the floor and use proper procedure to ensure he's nominated???

Start A Ruckus On The Floor!!!
Delegates Revolt For Freedom !!!

I just emailed my brother,

who is a delegate to warn him of this.There must be a way to stop this!

That's a mistake

There will probably be Aye's, but they would betray how unenthusiastic McCain voters are. People vote for McCain as a compromise, not necessarily FOR him.

What to do

My husband,who will be there as a Delegate says, the key words from the Chair are "without objection" which needs a loud response of "NAY" and "DIVISION OF THE HOUSE", or just plain "division".

It is important to keep in

It is important to keep in mind that we are all planning for the worse. Don't be discouraged because you may think that McCain's nomination is set it stone, which it certainly isn't. Remember how everyone was trying to guess who his v.p. would be, and it turned out it was someone from way out in left field. We can and worry or we can do something about. Knowing what we accomplished in the past year I'm convinced we will do the latter. The sky is not falling, we are just as smart and dedicated (if not more) as our opponents and we will prevail. Just keep on keepin' on and we'll be fine.

as usual

they will do anything to get their way. Masters of lies and deceit.

Ca'nt everyone at least

Yell NAY!!!!!! as loud as possible to make a statement even though it will probably be ignored? You want to behave but do'nt sit there like door mats either. Got to at least make a strong point if they do that. Stir up the dog and pony show. It should be live on TV. Hold up nay signs! Booo! Be heard. can you take a bull horn? Something loud? No must be heard even if it's only from our delegates. Drown out that gavel!

I checked the weather

High chance of thunder storms. Maybe lighting will strike at just the right moment.

Ca'nt everyone at least

Yell NAY!!!!!! as loud as possible to make a statement even though it will probably be ignored? You want to behave but do'nt sit there like door mats either. Got to at least make a strong point if they do that. Stir up the dog and pony show. It should be live on TV. Hold up nay signs! Booo! Be heard. can you take a bull horn? Something loud? No must be heard even if it's only from our delegates. Drown out that gavel!
sorry don't know why triple post :/

Ca'nt everyone at least

Yell NAY!!!!!! as loud as possible to make a statement even though it will probably be ignored? You want to behave but do'nt sit there like door mats either. Got to at least make a strong point if they do that. Stir up the dog and pony show. It should be live on TV. Hold up nay signs! Booo! Be heard. can you take a bull horn? Something loud? No must be heard even if it's only from our delegates. Drown out that gavel!

Random

Then everyone there needs to start yelling "roll call" at the top of their lungs.

I have just started getting

I have just started getting involved with the local GOP in trying to take the party back. If they do this role call vote and hustle McWar into the nomination without even a fair hearing from the people, I am afraid that will push me into the column of those who believe the corruption is so severe that there is no longer even a chance of reforming the party. If that happens, Constitution Party, here I come!

And that is exactly what

And that is exactly what they want you to do. Go to the CP or LP where you become benign and they can continue their BS unopposed.

The only way to turn things around is to seize the reins from those in power. The CP or the LP is not in power and it will do you or us no good to go there because we are mad at the big bad nasty Republicans. The GOP and DNC are the ones in power and that is where we must concentrate our efforts if we want a real shot at changing it peacefully.

Of course it is always possible that some event could happen to shift the balance of power to a 3rd party or cause a new party to be formed and take power. However it is unlikely and even if it were we cannot count on it and must work as if it all depends on us because it does!

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I do not think it is so easy

I do not think it is so easy when they hold all the cards!! You're very likely correct as to a 3rd party being a benign choice but I have a strong suspicion the "R"'s are corrupt beyond repair. They hold the reigns. When we take back the party locally what will we do when the state level cuts off our funds because we are not doing their bidding? Don't even accuse me of not doing my part, I have become a PCO as we speak and am responsible for many getting signed up in my county, yet I am dubious. Wake a few existing "R"'s to Ron Paul? Sure and that is always golden, but seize their reins? Somehow I believe we have to create our own "reigns"...

Raspberries

I like the whoopie cushion idea which led me to suggest blowing raspberries (Like in The Phantom Raspberry Blower of Olde London Town). What about just 'baah-ing' like sheep. "Barrrrh, Barrrrh, barrrh,barrh bah, etc. When the 'Ayes are voting? (And shouting "Noooooooo, nooooo"

'I always think of all you canvassors and precinct leaders and delegates at the front line and caucuses.
Good luck out there &Thank you. You're a gift.

No need to bother with such small things as ...

rules and laws when a national tragedy is upon us.

Just cancel the convention and annoint McCain.

Better yet, just have the delegates mail in their choice, it will save a lot of money and the delegates can be urged to donate those savings to the future victims of gustov.

LOL

WAHOR!!
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Does anyone know if our delegates are going to meet ...

before the Convention to make plans so they are all on the same page?

Will they be allowed into the Convention hall with Ron Paul signs?

Are they aware that the DVDs4Delegates project has mailed the DVD#1 and #2 to all the delegates including themselves? Are they encouraging the delegates to watch the DVDs?

We never did get the names and addresses of the delegates from Puerto Rico. If you give your DVD to a Puerto Rican delegate I am sure the DVD project will be glad to arrange to send you another one.

Use the return address on the envelope your DVD came in!

Wish I were able to be there. All of America will be watching!

"I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine" Ayn Rand in Atlas Shrugged p731

Did the delegates

get the DVDs? I still have'nt seen the finished product. Is there a link where I can watch it? Last I saw it was still messed up 1/3 the way through.

Delegates started receiving DVD 2 yesterday (or before)

I know that I got mine yesterday. It came in a very official looking mailer which made some of the Virginia delegates mad. It made them think that it was something from the convention, even though it was carefully labeled.

we should follow

the example of our Founding Fathers and PRAY for help and guidance!!!
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Our founding fathers also...

... loaded their muskets and cannon and proceeded to kick some redcoat behind too.

**** IMPORTANT!!! I AM NOT ADVOCATING ARMED REBELLION, I'M MERELY POINTING OUT HISTORICAL FACT.

that...

may come later. if it does i will rely on God's help there too!!! Have we all asked God for help yet?

I gave up prayer for lent.

___________

Lisa C.

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Lent's been over since March...

glad to have you back!

yes this is good!

I have lived, Sir, a long time and the longer I live, the more convincing proofs I see of this truth -- that God governs in the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without his notice, is it probable that an empire can rise without his aid? We have been assured, Sir, in the sacred writings that "except the Lord build they labor in vain that build it." I firmly believe this; and I also believe that without his concurring aid we shall succeed in this political building no better than the Builders of Babel: We shall be divided by our little partial local interests; our projects will be confounded, and we ourselves shall be become a reproach and a bye word down to future age. And what is worse, mankind may hereafter this unfortunate instance, despair of establishing Governments by Human Wisdom, and leave it to chance, war, and conquest.
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Yup

I'm afraid that may well be the case. But if he selects a pro-choice/abortion candidate, there may be a lot of upset, not only from Ron Paul supporters.
Other than the Democrats though, Ron Paul has not even be invited to speak and this will come and bit them. Our support is at least 15% of the GOP and the GOP can impossibly win without it. McCain thinks he can offset this loss with say 10-25% of the Hillary CLinton supporters, but I am afraid this is not going to help him.

Can the delegates take

Can the delegates take cardboard loud horn as to direct the na's to the direction best suited ???????

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The ultimate response to an InSane voice vote

Forgive me...I must be in a strange, silly mood somewhat tonight...but here's a thought, nevertheless...

Cowbells and air horns are bulky and hard to carry around until you need them. Whistles might be good (small and loud), yet their shrill tune could be interpreted as support just as likely as dissent.

How about a silly, yet, oddly appropriate option? Something that folds flat for easy transportation and tucks neatly away until you want to use it. It requires no batteries, and sends a universally-understood message loud and clear.

Ladies and gentlemen, I submit for your approval: the whoopie cushion.

ha ha what a GREAT idea whoopie cushions for delegates

Maybe someone could put one under dick chennys chair support our delagates htp://www.scenicoklahoma....

Great idea but eveyone will just think it's McLame.

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Lisa C.

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You always make me laugh

I wish you could come to MN!

Actually ron.

In a fit of desperation, I had another look at flights -- Australia to New Zealand to LA to Denver to St. Paul leaving tomorrow for $6950.

I'd love to see you guys but...

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Dang

And I used to think it was bad that it costs over $2,000 to get from rural parts of Alaska to the west coast of the lower 48.

Oh well! Save your $7,000 for the Ron Paul 2012 campaign. Sorry we will miss you. You'll be in our hearts! :)

for every action there is a reaction!

I dont know if this post was meant to discourage but its turning into a great post.Remember the gop has to walk a tight rope here as they did with nevada in having compromisiing delegates.They can take everything away from us but our pure displeasure and disgust at the actions they take.We should dress each of our delegates like they are going to maudi gras with Ron Paul stickers and signs when they call for this action out comes the cowbells and whistles and become loud and unruly.Frankly I dont think it would be a bad idea if some of our delegates were forcefully removed.When john mccain mentions something about endless wars ,,socialist agendas out comes the cowbells and whistles if we can do this then we have won in more ways then you can ever realize.Also have all the our delegates sit together.And have one big RON Paul display of signs and paraphenilia. Remember they can take everything away from us but our first amendment rights..

"God governs the affairs of men"...

Benjamin Franklin in regards to pray at the constitutional convention... "I therefore beg leave to move--that henceforth prayers imploring the assistance of Heaven, and its blessings on our deliberations, be held every morning before we proceed to business"... we need help. we all need to do this! God help us all! "AYE" for congressman Ron Paul!!!
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Done!

The righteous will inherit the earth. God promised. We will win eventually.

AMEN!

AMEN!

this is true!

"And have we now forgotten that powerful friend? or do we imagine that we no longer need His assistance."
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I Hate To Agree

but the way the GOP has ram rodded or railroaded - whatever you
want to call it throughout this election year from the local caucas
where I witnessed it first hand - to the majority of Regional and State
caucases or conventions ... they don't play by the rules - they will
make them up as they go and it is all going to be a big joke -
and America will get to once again see the smug faces and "little girlie"
giggles of Ghouliani and RoMoney ...... wait and see -
thank God for the Texas Congressman who said, "make fun buddy"

that is where the truth and action and change will be - Target Center.

I hope I am wrong - I would love for it to go state by state -

Ron Paul delegates will have to make some kind of noise in there ...
I don't know what that would entail - they will know what to do though!

omination

by acclimation seems shady. is there any strategic counter that we can arm our delegates with? parlimentary procedures? etc?
If they are allowed to do that, what are our guys allowed to do to stop it? anything?
Liberty, once it takes root, is a plant of rapid growth.
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No call for opposed: RONR page 44 line 11

Robert's Rules of Order, on page 44, tells how to conduct voice votes. Not calling for those opposed would be a violation.

See Convention Rules

posted at http://www.gop.com/images... Rule # 40 deals with nominations. I did not see a thing about acclaimations...but check it out for yourself.

I was only able to make it

I was only able to make it to my state convention, but I got to see enough to know how brutally fast and well orchestrated the process can go down. There may be drama in the twin cities, but it won't be at the RNC.

But, more importantly, now's is not the time to pack up our marbles and go home. I'm proud of all the Ron Paul delegates making the sacrifices necessary to be there. They have the job of contributing to the private conversations and make a name for themselves and leveraging that in the future. Let us hope that they stay true to their principles as Ron Paul has done for 30+ years.

Tyrrany

It disgusts me that $34 million of our tax money is being wasted on the Elephant and Donkey dog-and-pony shows to promote tyranny, the contempt for democracy practiced so expertly at these events as the ringleaders use every tool at their disposal to snuff out dissent.

multiply that number by 3

i think the total cost for security between the two conventions is $100 million

It Was 100 Million Just For Security "Upgrades" They Won't Even

tell us about. 50 mil for Denver police and 50 million for St.Paul police. New guns, stun guns, cuffs, cages to put people into, shit I bet they even got a mini-tank out of it but they are not telling...

Delegates Revolt For Freedom !!!

Bite your tongue and curb your thoughts!

Control yourself! We all know that this scenario exists as a distinct possibility. God forbid, none of us here want to put this thought into the great energy field to solidify into reality. Our delegates would roar in outrage! I would have given my life to become a delegate, I tried. But, by all that's precious, please meditate on Victory! Visualize a wonderful upset. Take some deep breaths, let's not borrow tomorrow's troubles today. We will cross that bridge if and when we come to it. See you in Minn!

Vali

'...truth is loved in such a way that those who love some other thing want it to be the truth, and precisely because they do not wish to be deceived, are unwilling to be convinced that they are deceived." --- St. Augustine, Confessions (10:23), 5th c.