Nevada update
I received this update from Robert Terhune today.
"Hi everyone,
Here is a rundown of everything that's been going on with the Nevada Delegation to the Republican National Convention. Thanks to all who have helped with and supported this process, and please be assured that the fight is not over. I included our Press Release below.
OK...
Due to the fact that the Nevada State Republican Convention was shut down abruptly and illegally in April (when Party leaders weren't getting their way), and because the State Party leadership never intended to (and never did) complete the convention, we decided to finish it ourselves. We reconvened on June 28, and legally elected a full delegation to represent Nevada at the National Convention.
The Party leadership of course never acknowledged the June 28th gathering, and submitted their own list of delegates, appointed by the leadership. Their list was comprised of party regulars and contributers. A Party official was heard boasting at a meeting that "not one of those Ron Paul people" were on the list.
The party's list was submitted to the RNC, while we submitted an appeal to the RNC to try and stop them. The RNC's initial decision was to reject both delegations as illegal, and to seat only the three automatic delegates. The state party appealed that, and the matter was sent to the RNC's Contest Committee.
The Contest Committee heard the appeal on Sunday, August 24, 2008. The Party was represented by high-powered Washington DC attorney Ben Ginsberg, and we were represented by Mike Weber, a long-time Republican activist (and McCain supporter) from Washoe County, Nevada. The hearing was set up like a Senate hearing, with the committee seated at a table at the front of the room, with the two parties facing them, seated at their own tables. Each side was allowed opening and closing statements, and in between the committee peppered both sides with questions. The committee was obviously very knowledgeable about the situation, and seemed very interested in getting to the truth and conducting a fair process. As the day wore on, it was apparent that the committee started to realize how poorly the state party had been conducting itself. In one instance, a committee member was trying to find out how people became state delegates. Between Sue Lowden (NV GOP Chair) and Ginsberg, the State party was unable to answer the question, to the frustration on the member. In another instance, another member was trying to learn if the party knew who the state delegates were. After receiving no firm answer to several questions, she exasperatedly asked, "You accepted money to register for the State Convention, right? So there must have been some bookkeeping of some kind!" She never got a satisfactory answer.
Mike Weber closed with a stirring closing statement that basically told the committee that they could chose righteousness or corruption, and that the country was watching. No final decision was reached that day, and several smaller meetings between Weber and Party attorneys took place over the next few days. The outcome clearly was not going to be good.
So here is where the process stands now: The Contest Committee released its report on Wednesday. The report strongly chastised the state GOP, calling the Nevada GOP’s handling of the delegate selection process “flawed, inadequate, and unacceptable,” and added that they were “deeply troubled by the ineptness of the State Party in conducting its process to elect delegates." The National Party has confirmed that, in their opinion, BOTH delegations were selected illegally, and that they would not accept either. The only exceptions were the CD1 and CD3 delegates that were elected during the original convention in April-- they will seat them. Ron Paul is represented by four of those six delegates.
However, there is a little-known rule that allows the National Party to appoint delegates to fill open slots within ten days of the National Convention. So, in order to fill all of the now-open seats from Nevada, they decided to invoke this rule and fill the vacancies. They did so using names from the State Party's appointed delegation.
So, in summary, the Nevada state party did not like what was happening at the State Convention, so they took the ball and went home, cheating the delegates out of their vote. They tried to appoint delegates to the National Convention instead. We tried to stop them and ensure the voting rights of ordinary Nevada Republicans. The National Party sided with the State Party and, after slapping them on the wrist, accepted their appointed delegates.
From now on, there is little to stop any state's GOP from ignoring the voices of it's people, and instead appointing their own cronies to attend the National Convention-- where our next potential President is selected.
Here is our press release from this afternoon:
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PRESS RELEASE
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
RNC Labels NV Party “Inept,” but Seats Most of State-Appointed Delegation
MINNEAPOLIS, MN, 8/28/08 – The RNC’s Committtee on Contests handed down a recommendation yesterday regarding the ongoing Nevada delegate debacle. The Committee condemned the State Party’s handling of the delegate selection process, and declined the State Party’s ability to appoint delegates. However, the Committee then recommended seating the majority of the State Party’s appointed slate, as well as six delegates elected in CD 1 and CD 3 at the April 26th State Convention.
“We definitely do not consider this a just resolution,” said Wayne Terhune, a Nevada Republican activist who traveled to Minneapolis to support the appeal. “Despite some strong language from the Committee, their actions have backed up the illegal delegate appointment of the State Party.”
The Committee on Contests held a hearing on Sunday, August 24th when they heard statements from both sides. The Committee’s statement released on Wednesday called the Nevada GOP’s handling of the delegate selection process “flawed, inadequate, and unacceptable,” adding that they were “deeply troubled by the ineptness of the State Party in conducting its process to elect delegates […].”
“This game seems to have been fixed from the start,” Terhune said. “It was obvious to everyone at the Committee’s hearing that the State Party was inept, but the Committtee decided to back them up anyway and seat the majority of their slate. This is a miscarriage of justice, and smacks of tyranny. All the Republican voters of Nevada have been disenfranchised. ”
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Thanks again to everyone who helped.
In Liberty,
Robert"





















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LET's just get the deligates there, see what takes place for the record. Worry about what comes up later at the conv. $$$$$
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Too bad, but don't you think
They will nominate McCain by acclamation, without a role call vote ?
So, I'm not sure it makes alot of difference in the end. Perhaps its almost better that they be shown for what they really are, corrupt tyrants.
Yes, but . . .
the presence of RP delegates there will be a victory. They worked so hard to keep us away, it must be important for us to be there!! :)
GET THE COMMITEEMEMBERS NAMES
and plaster them all over the news. Hound them with calls. Call for interviews. Get them on the radio. Don't let up. Make a really big stink that somehow will get picked up on the news. Most people I inform about this kind of corruption look at me like I'm loony for believing in this "conspiracy" crap and say 'if it was true', they'd be knocking on their doors.
Of course this leads to great informaiton conversations, but my point is that individually, we can only inform a person or two at a time. Making major news, we can inform millions!
Who's got their contact info to publish?
*sigh*
All the more reason to join the LP.... which I did in January.
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GOP loses
The GOP will lose the Republicans that Ron Paul brought back, they will lose the new recruits. Sad for America! A new party looks better every day!
I think you are right. Seems
I think you are right. Seems like there is no chance to get anywhere within the GOP when they can change the rules at any time.
Sad... but another call to action!
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The Lesson? We need 50 State GOP leaders.
Thats the lesson. We need 50 State GOP Leaders.
By the way, as those crafty NeoCons have taught us anything by example, its to play both sides of the "two party system".
So the full lesson is we need 50 State GOP leaders and 50 State DNC leaders.
We need a hundred crafty individuals who are politically savy and know that is how the Washington War Party is owned ..... so.... who wants to be the one to give America its vacination? We need to give the War Party ....demopublicans, a series of 100 shots to the body politic, right at the top of Borg central command.... be the virus, infect Washington with the bug of freedom.
In Peace & Liberty,
Treg
Good post
Thanks Treg!
exactly right, that is the way we do it
Become both parties and let them throw whichever of our bums they choose out. That's how it's being done to us; that's how we need to do it.
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What a shame...
A similar situation happened in Washington State to Ron Paul delegates who were made to feel like criminals. What a joke the Republican Party has become. I'm writing in Ron Paul.
Pawnstorm
AD in NV We did things
AD in NV
We did things according to the rules and won. So the NV GOP cheated and so far in essence the Courts and the RNC protected and rewarded them. Where do we go next? Teaparty?
Nevada has the numbers
Nevada has the numbers within the Republican Party. They are our shining example. I think they should sanction or throw out the State party leadership with their numbers. Use this fiasco to recruit more Paul Liberty Republicans into becoming PCs!
This is the kicking off point of the changes we all want to make in our own states.
GREAT JOB NV!
Take it to court.
The party has failed to honor its own rules, so it's time to seek redress from the law.
-jcr
RNC is a private club
Lawsuits against private clubs are not effective.
I've posed this before
If this counrty was founded on "we the people" and the people have to choose one side or the other, how are they ''Private clubs"? If that is truly the case, then they have now came clean and admitted this is a communist country based on the party. In other words, the common man has no say. Unless you are high up in the party, those are the only people that get the "privilige" not the right, to be involved in the process.
You're right moondog383...
That was my experience as a Nevada Delegate... as it turns out I had absolutely NO SAY in my State's selection of THE PARTY'S presidential candidate.
My experience as well
as a delegate to the first day of the Convention....the June 28th event was a difference scenario, but it has been disallowed to date, of course.
One has to wonder why we put up with these fundraisers - so that the inner circle can have a back-patting party at the expense of the delegates?
IT'S DOABLE
In Washington State
We were told we did not belong and that we had crashed their party. These people make me ill.
Remind me never to hire you as a lawyer.
Private clubs get sued all the time. They don't always win, either.
-jcr
Since when can't you sue in America?
You just need the right lawyer.
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you can sue
Sure, you can sue. State GOP are private clubs, so you will generally lose the lawsuit unless you sue on something like discrimination against a protected class of persons.
Alternatively, do you expect the gov't to step in and tell people who freely and voluntarily associate in their own private club how they should do their private business?
We can take over the state leadership positions so these become our clubs. This work starts now, and ramps up next year. Get involved. Get local leadership positions.
I never mentioned the government getting involved.
Lots of lawyers never expect to win lawsuits but only to draw attention to the case.
I think this would be a good case to draw attention to.
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They are Being Sued!!!
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If the rules of the club are
If the rules of the club are broken, wouldn't that be some sort of breach of contract? Especially when the club charges fees for membership and the rules are published?
Thanks Gmartine
That was a great summary, I very much appreciate that you took the time to put it all together so nicely. It's getting harder and harder to be a Republican.
News for the Nevada state and national committee
They just ensured that McCain will lose NV in the general election and if McCain loses NV, he probably loses the whole presidential election. Mike Weber's fears may come true.
hey
What about the first 2 or 3 that they counted and recorded before originally shutting down the convention?
How do you justify taking them off the list?
The six delegates elected in April
will be part of the NV delegation. It's all there for you to read.
The only ineptitude
they were concerned with was the parties allowing things to get to state where they became involved. A foregone conclusion anyway you look at it. You can bet they have more tacticlly minded individuals at the helm in the future so as to head off any more embarrasing losses of control like they experienced this year. We definitly tipped our hand here and they are now gonna be on their toes. If you think our challenge was tough this election cycle, wait till next one.
I'm still going to be there!
Pretty much know I have no chance of getting that hall, but I'm going to learn all I can about furthering our cause at the C4L functions. Nevada will not back down. The elections for the state committee are coming up soon & we WILL prevail in numbers & prevail in the results. This cannot happen again.
Cynthia Kennedy
Undelegate, Nevada
Go get 'em Cynthia!
Every time they open their lying mouths they get in deeper and deeper trouble... We're getting stronger everyday here in Nevada while the NV GOP is increasingly being embarrassed and exposed as "inept" at best... and criminal in it's intent.
We WILL have our victories in Nevada... one after another... after another... until the house is clean and the rodents are all dead and gone! Let me know if you guy's need any free graphics or promotional materials when you get back from MN. I'm sure going to do my part to keep the message about the NV GOP in the public eye for as long as possible. It's their bed and we're going make damn sure they lie in it.
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Way to go Cynthia
We'll be looking forward to your input! Don't forget you have an invite to come over and smash a wine glass any time!
IT'S DOABLE
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Power Corrupts
I'm so glad I'm a member of the LP.
It is sad when your own party does the political thing instead of the right thing.
Is there any appeal? Does the GOP have a judicial committee that can hear the case?
We need five states to demonstrate majority support for Ron Paul to get his name into nomination.
IMissLiberty
LP is the feel good choice
On August 28th, 2008 IMissLiberty says:
> I'm so glad I'm a member of the LP.
Ron Paul is correct that working within the Republican Party is the way to get results. We've made headway here in Idaho.
LP party is the feel good choice. You won't get anything done, but you don't have to deal with the less than fun struggles that progress requires in a political system. I'm sure the neo-cons here wish we'd get out of their way and take shelter in the Libertarian Party too. We haven't. We would have made no progress if we had.
Thanx for posting
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