Obama might pursue criminal charges against Bush
I don't trust Obama, but this is very, very interesting... On Drudge Report right now.
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Obama might pursue criminal charges against Bush
· Biden says criminal violations will be pursued
· Democrats have issued subpoenas to Bush aides
· 3 staffers have been held in contempt of Congress
* Elana Schor in Washington
* guardian.co.uk,
* Wednesday September 03 2008 19:32 BST
* Article history
Democratic vice-presidential nominee Joe Biden said yesterday that he and running mate Barack Obama could pursue criminal charges against the Bush administration if they are elected in November.
Biden's comments, first reported by ABC news, attracted little notice on a day dominated by the drama surrounding his Republican counterpart, Alaska governor Sarah Palin.
But his statements represent the Democrats' strongest vow so far this year to investigate alleged misdeeds committed during the Bush years.
"If there has been a basis upon which you can pursue someone for a criminal violation, they will be pursued," Biden said during a campaign event in Deerfield Beach, Florida, according to ABC.
"[N]ot out of vengeance, not out of retribution," he added, "out of the need to preserve the notion that no one, no attorney general, no president -- no one is above the law."
Obama sounded a similar note in April, vowing that if elected, he would ask his attorney general to initiate a prompt review of Bush-era actions to distinguish between possible "genuine crimes" and "really bad policies".
"[I]f crimes have been committed, they should be investigated," Obama told the Philadelphia Daily News. "You're also right that I would not want my first term consumed by what was perceived on the part of Republicans as a partisan witch hunt, because I think we've got too many problems we've got to solve."
Congressional Democrats have issued a flurry of subpoenas this year to senior Bush administration aides as part of a broad inquiry into the authorisation of torturous interrogation tactics used at the Guantanamo Bay prison camp.
Three veterans of the Bush White House have been held in criminal contempt of Congress for refusing to respond to subpoenas: former counsel Harriet Miers, former political adviser Karl Rove, and current chief of staff Josh Bolten. The contempt battle is currently before a federal court.
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hahaha..... just like all
hahaha..... just like all those idiots in the democratic party promised an end to the Iraq war which they could have ended by stopping the funding!.. and promising to impeach bush 4 years ago! Just a campaign promise ment to be broken! DON'T BELEIVE THE AFRO MARXISTS LIES!
as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD
I wonder if anyone ever bothered to check
to see if "Turd Blossom" can be found encoded in the Bible.
Live Free or Diebold
What are the odds? Oh
What are the odds? Oh yeah--and Conyers was going to arrest Karl Rove, too. (Snicker.)
SUPPORT OUR FOUNDERS' AMERICA
Support the Constitution of the United States
it doesn't matter,.......
after they do whatever to Bush he will pardon himself, that guy has pulled some rabbits out of his @$$ and I still don't understand how no one has noticed or tried to stop him.
He'll probably save a pardon for himself for later use, thinking life is like the game monopoly and he'll hold on to the "get out of jail free" card.
the Obama campaign has
the Obama campaign has already come out and denied this.... they wouldn't do this to one of their own....
Any one else
If it were anyone else other than Bush ( of the lost tribe lol ). They would in order to slow the desent among the public. If it gets bad enough for them ,,they will toss someone to the wolves.
lol @ the contempt charges.
lol @ the contempt charges. that doesnt seem to dissuade Karl Rove from espousing his nauseating fumes throughout the entire fox news network on a near daily basis. the bush administration has shown congress to be nearly impotent against its illegal actions in multiple accounts. so many now that its become almost comical. perhaps i should start a sunday morning comic in the local newspaper about it even.
I'm sure he'll get right on that
That Obama is a reformer. I believe in change. But only change I can believe in. I want the country to move forward, not backward. I want things to get better, not worse.
Of course, McCain is a super-hero and his VP nominee is real purdy.
Hopefully the election machine people have considered this important matter in their decision.
YEAH.....
He is the Bionic man with those robotic arm moves!
I don't know about this election, it seems Change is the agenda and everyone is on the carpet ride to war with Russia and the Middle East all over again.
It doesn't matter, I just want the insanity to end, whatever happened to common sense?!?!?!
yeah just like
when the dems said they would end the war if elected into congress
Yea, and monkey's might fly out of my butt too.
PANDERING
PERIOD.
Yes Susan
It is a lie to get the "truther" vote
Yes Susan
It is a lie to get the "truther" vote
bingo
Fortune Favors the Bold
Nobama will never see the inside of the whitehouse...
Are you joking?? McCain is the 'heir apparent' and don't you forget it.
You think they'll allow a socialist into the office now?? Now that they've almost perfected the fascist state?
No. McCain will win in November. What happens after will be forever remembered.
I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...
"The Stars are aligned"
. . .from the intro to McCain's speech thursday.
The problem for Obama is
The problem for Obama is that many Democrats are involved in these scandals/law-breaking too.
Is Obama willing to charge lots of Democrats along with Bush? I doubt it, so I don't see much happening here.
Obama has already gone back on his word for numerous things lately anyway.
Have we forgotten
what campaigning is all about? Lies, lies, lies.
He wouldn't have voted for
He wouldn't have voted for Telecom Immunity/FISA if he had any real intentions to get Bush.
key word "might" = no chance in hell
Why hasn't he already started the investigations? Did he support impeachment? what has he done to insure justice?
DOG AND PONY SHOW
at best
Obama will 'persue' criminal charges against Bush...
... when pigs fly out of my ass. To date, that hasn't happened, and for some strange reason I doubt it ever will. Besides, we all know mcWar is the next golden stooge of the elites.
Lol
I'll put your pigs to sleep after I finish my White Castle...
For liberty!! *gong*
And I might
...enjoy listening to classical piano concerto music flowing freely out of my ass, the sanguine sonic surrender sending me to a somnambulant sleep as the last images I see in my waking hours are of effervescent angel wings attached to the denizens of my neighbor's pig farm.
What a plastic asshole. Wonder how long it takes for him to pull a Pelosi on that front?
For liberty!! *gong*
lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD
lol
Great rant!
The American Revolution 2.0 will not be televised... It will be downloaded!!!
BUSH crime
SOUNDS like typical GOV'T BLACKMAIL liberals enjoy using to run GOV'T affairs. IF they got the goods why wait to persue. They are SENATORS, NOW representing US . HA!
TLF
Breaking NEWS!
Ron Paul *MIGHT* be nominated at the convention!
And water MIGHT be turned
And water MIGHT be turned into wine by Sarah Palin... but then again, it MIGHT not!
I just..
MIGHT...
C'mon -- pretty please OpenRevolt???
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If Obama truly felt this way
If Obama truly felt this way he would have been more supportive of Kucinich's efforts to impeach Bush.
Obama is only using this as a ploy to help get himself elected. I don't believe it will work. It might help him initially, but ultimately it will backfire on him.
I agree 100%
I think it's lip service. Both he and Biden are obligated to act immediately.
The American Revolution 2.0 will not be televised... It will be downloaded!!!
talk about a divided country
one half (apparently) wants McCain who has just been endorsed by Bush & Cheney and the other half want Obama who recognises that including as a plank a promise to prosecute the other half (the half that McCain has voted with 90% of the time) -is a selling point. Strange days indeed.
Live Free or Diebold
You couldn't write this stuff.
These are crazy times we live in.
Man, you said it.
JM
I'll say it again, It seems we've died and gone to hell.
Here is your basis...
Article I
Creating a Secret Propaganda Campaign to Manufacture a False Case for War Against Iraq
Article II
Falsely, Systematically, and with Criminal Intent Conflating the Attacks of September 11, 2001, With Misrepresentation of Iraq as a Security Threat as Part of Fraudulent Justification for a War of
Aggression
Article III
Misleading the American People and Members of Congress to Believe Iraq Possessed Weapons of Mass Destruction, to Manufacture a False Case for War
Article IV
Misleading the American People and Members of Congress to Believe Iraq Posed an Imminent Threat to the United States
Article V
Illegally Misspending Funds to Secretly Begin a War of Aggression
Article VI
Invading Iraq in Violation of the Requirements of HJRes114
Article VII
Invading Iraq Absent a Declaration of War.
Article VIII
Invading Iraq, A Sovereign Nation, in Violation of the UN Charter
Article IX
Failing to Provide Troops With Body Armor and Vehicle Armor
Article X
Falsifying Accounts of US Troop Deaths and Injuries for Political Purposes
Article XI
Establishment of Permanent U.S. Military Bases in Iraq
Article XII
Initiating a War Against Iraq for Control of That Nation's Natural Resources
Article XIIII
Creating a Secret Task Force to Develop Energy and Military Policies With Respect to Iraq and Other Countries
Article XIV
Misprision of a Felony, Misuse and Exposure of Classified Information And Obstruction of Justice in the Matter of Valerie Plame Wilson, Clandestine Agent of the Central Intelligence Agency
Article XV
Providing Immunity from Prosecution for Criminal Contractors in Iraq
Article XVI
Reckless Misspending and Waste of U.S. Tax Dollars in Connection With Iraq and US Contractors
Article XVII
Illegal Detention: Detaining Indefinitely And Without Charge Persons Both U.S. Citizens and Foreign Captives
Article XVIII
Torture: Secretly Authorizing, and Encouraging the Use of Torture Against Captives in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Other Places, as a Matter of Official Policy
Article XIX
Rendition: Kidnapping People and Taking Them Against Their Will to "Black Sites" Located in Other Nations, Including Nations Known to Practice Torture
Article XX
Imprisoning Children
Article XXI
Misleading Congress and the American People About Threats from Iran, and Supporting Terrorist Organizations Within Iran, With the Goal of Overthrowing the Iranian Government
Article XXII
Creating Secret Laws
Article XXIII
Violation of the Posse Comitatus Act
Article XXIV
Spying on American Citizens, Without a Court-Ordered Warrant, in Violation of the Law and the Fourth Amendment
Article XXV
Directing Telecommunications Companies to Create an Illegal and Unconstitutional Database of the Private Telephone Numbers and Emails of American Citizens
Article XXVI
Announcing the Intent to Violate Laws with Signing Statements
Article XXVII
Failing to Comply with Congressional Subpoenas and Instructing Former Employees Not to Comply
Article XXVIII
Tampering with Free and Fair Elections, Corruption of the Administration of Justice
Article XXIX
Conspiracy to Violate the Voting Rights Act of 1965
Article XXX
Misleading Congress and the American People in an Attempt to Destroy Medicare
Article XXXI
Katrina: Failure to Plan for the Predicted Disaster of Hurricane Katrina, Failure to Respond to a Civil Emergency
Article XXXII
Misleading Congress and the American People, Systematically Undermining Efforts to Address Global Climate Change
Article XXXIII
Repeatedly Ignored and Failed to Respond to High Level Intelligence Warnings of Planned Terrorist Attacks in the US, Prior to 911.
Article XXXIV
Obstruction of the Investigation into the Attacks of September 11, 2001
Article XXXV
Endangering the Health of 911 First Responders
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http://kucinich.house.gov...
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God Bless Dennis Kucinich.. a true American hero.