Ron Paul did not win the nomination - THIS CHANGES NOTHING AND WE MUST STAY FOCUSED, THIS IS NOT OVER BY A LONGSHOT!
Watch it won't take 2 hours before the trolls come and try and hijack this post.
I know that many are angry and/or discouraged or both but we must stay focused.
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Never stop!
To all delegates we are proud of each and every one of you and you must now continue to stand tall for you have nothing to be ashamed of and you should be extremely proud of yourselves.
Now the work begins :
# 1 : We must stay organized and start working together
# 2 : We need to become educated on Rules of order and the delegate process for the future.
# 3 : We must be involved locally for this is where changes are made on the local level.
# 4 : Do not look at the battles we have lost but rather look at the many victories we have achieved this year.
We have taken over districts and counties all over the country.
We have replaced chairman and officers all over the country.
We have loads on constitutional minded people running for congressional seats.
Over 22,000 precinct leaders signed up this year alone and that has to be a record.
Many now understand how the system works to which they never did before.
WE ALSO HAVE THE CAMPAIGN FOR LIBERTY!
The message is spreading and will continue to spread and the neocons CAN NOT STOP THE MESSAGE, Only we can stop promoting the message and that will not happen!
We can not quit, We must not quit, WE WILL NOT QUIT!
You should all see by now they are afraid of us and they damn well should be.
When the people fear the Government there is tyranny, When the Government fear the people there in LIBERTY! Thomas Jefferson
I will be writing a detailed report about write in votes that will be up this weekend as well as information about 3rd party candidates so we can decide what direction to go and how to move forward.
Do not do anything in haste for we need to be better organized this time and for the future. Keep your heads high and your chins up.
For those that need a break because you are heartbroken take the day off take the weekend off and then come back Monday fresh clear minded.
God bless you all : To be continued......
Dr. Steve Parent
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don't quit yet
Please not so loud I'm still working here in PA.
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maybe we could all put the victories won this year on a slimjim or flyer and hand them out to people not aware of what our revolution has accomplished so far. That is what I am going to do. I am going to include the campaign for liberty website and how many people have signed up so far.
victories
I think the local elected seats have significant power of influence, so I would be interested in seeing a list of those of us who have taken local elected seats.
I won't ask folks to self-identify, as this could lead to lack of effectiveness when working with our peers on the water board, city council, county commissioners, etc.
# 1 : We must stay organized
# 1 : We must stay organized and start working together
# 2 : We need to become educated on Rules of order and the delegate process for the future.
# 3 : We must be involved locally for this is where changes are made on the local level.
# 4 : Do not look at the battles we have lost but rather look at the many victories we have achieved this year.
Wow Steve... remember when I said this a bunch of months ago and was ridiculed by you, because you assured me that we had oodles of delegates and were getting more by the moment? Those who continued to push for delegates, that's great, but I remember being outright insulted by you and yours for months over stating these same things. I remember, in fact, being chastised for thinking about 2012 at all because "if Ron Paul's not elected, there won't BE an election in 2012, so why even bother?!?!" This was in response to making sure people were eligible to be delegates in 2012.
I'm glad to see you have had a change of heart, and don't now think that it's scourge-a-licious to believe that working locally and pushing forward with the idea, to use this as a foundation and not let it slip away like previous movements.
Maybe you will also learn a lesson from this, and realize that people doing something different from you --- even people who outright disagree with you, or are rude, or are otherwise icky to you --- are still valuable, and their efforts are beyond your constant judgement :) Oh and yes I know that sounds awfully hypocritical to those who might not remember things that happened, or painted them a rose color in their memories ;)
I never called someone a loser, or a power-tripper, for doing whatever they could for the movement. I'm not really looking for having people banned for disagreeing, or displeasing me. I don't post some sort of martyr complex "oh the trolls will be out shortly" and then sigh and shake my head as the people I disagree with point out my flaws, then wag my finger and hope they are banned. That sort of thing is silly. Those are votes. Those are hands and feet and eyes and ears. If they aren't worth my time to work with, then I don't expend energy chasing them around the internet trying to get them banished, either ;)
I see a post about diehards snapping like peanut brittle. In some cases, I'm of the personal opinion that is because people had attitudes along the line of what I described: Ron Paul or the world will end! Ron Paul or we'll all be in FEMA camps! It always seemed unlikely, and I was called every name in the book for thinking so. I've always noticed you turn the water up slowly when boiling that proverbial frog. People love citing the nazis, well look at how things were done. Little by little and then the hand closed suddenly and there was no one to cry for help to. Help came for unrelated reasons, no matter what history wants to paint it as.
Among all this is the high hope that somehow, someway, the same political machine we saw as difficult enough we had to mount a concerted effort against it... would recognize all the delegates, and that in fact we'd have a majority of delegates during a multi-round rollcall. As chances of that dwindled, people should have (logically) begun turning their attention to alternatives, but some others still clung to reports that we did in fact have a great sweeping tide of delegates. This is another reason people are cracking, I think; expectations were unrealistic, and now the movement ebbs. That's the real concern, and I share it with SGP, though I question the timing of it and the sincerity, but I'll do that in private if he wants.
expectations
Agreed that there were unrealistic expectations and some holding those expectations are now "snapping like peanut brittle". Nice visual!
Now it's time to get back to the sometimes unpleasant and usually boring work of getting local positions.
My county GOP meeting is coming up, and they will be passing out JM signs and stuff. As a precinct chair I will take the stuff and agree to give it to my neighbors when my neighbors ask for it. (It's going to land in the dumpster ten minutes later.)
I can suck it up for a couple months, vote CB or BB for Pres., then solidify myself in the local party.
For those who don't want to do the work over the next few years: it's only going to change if you make it change. Stop relying on others to do the local work for you.
Credit for the Visual
Can't take credit for it ;) It is a topic on another post within Daily Paul, regarding people changing their MySpaces, etc, who were once pro-Paul.
Watch out
This post will be deleted and you'll be called Milly in no time.
Here and here to stay!
Thank you, Steve, and all the delegates. We are now more motivated than ever to continue on our journey to liberty!
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Ron Paul for speaker of the House!!! Third in line for pres.
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Good post
Stay positive. The voting and the way it has been handled was to be expected by now. Ron Paul as year long Republican not even allowed free access to the GOP convention! They will taste blowback in November.
The best way for the ideal of the CFL to succeed is to vote for any third party or independent candidate of your choice, even if he/she is not perfect.
They are mostly much closer to Paul than McBama. The GOP must be sent a strong message. The best and fastest way is that McCain loses, but the GOP still retain more than 40 senate seats, so that fillibusters can still work. The GOP would have to do soalsearching then, which is already long due.
Always play your cards well.
Always play your cards well. We need to hit them the same way they hit us. We could focus on building important parts not only the GOP, but also the Democratic party for example. Consider all the options, then when its time, hit hard. Patience is running out, I know, but as long as we still have something to defend and believe in, the fight goes on!
God Bless
God Bless America and God Bless Dr Steve Parent!!!!!
What's up with all the sneezing?
Do I need to start a chipin for TissuesForFreedom for Steve's sneezing fits?
The fact that the GOP cheated, scamed and lied
The fact that the GOP cheated, scamed and lied in order to elect the McSame, doesn't change anything in this movement! Keep up the great work!
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Elections are short-term, revolutions are long-term projects
Anyone who thought Ron Paul had a chance to win the Republican nomination after Super Tuesday, well, I'd like to get a hit of what you were smoking. If we get caught up in a personality cult then we're just like the Barack O-bomb'em crowd. Seriously, when rumours began to circulate on libertarian blogs back in January 2007 about Dr. Paul running, did any of you imagine what would happen in his campaign? For those of you not on those blogs in January 2007 - my point exactly - welcome to the freedom movement we're glad you're here!
If this was about one man in one race, then we lost handidly. If this is a movement to restore our constituational republic, then we've only begun to fight. We may play different positions now that the Paul for President campaign is no more - LP, CP, IP, GOP, other - but we're all playing for the same team. Let's do all we can, however we can to keep spreading the message and one day our day will come.
Peace,
Barr '08
Ventura '12 (?)
Awww Steve have you never
Awww Steve have you never had the conundrum of feeling one thing in your heart and knowing another thing in your mind? Ever been so damned "IN LOVE" that even though all the truth is in front of your eyes your heart kept hoping? I wasn't smoking anything I was high on a much more powerful drug... LOVE. I admit it to the whole DP membership I am in love with Dr Paul!!! I just could not give up believing in a miracle...hearts are like that. Now I am all cried out I am ready to do what's needed but come on let the broken hearted have a little respect. We are romantics and the R3VOLUTION surely needs us too!
By not nominating Dr Paul it
By not nominating Dr Paul it just makes the Republicans look like a bunch of idiots! Of course those of us that have been enduring the the local REC meetings it's clear the leadership are no idiots, they are just pure evil. They are in it for the personal gain of money and power. The corruption and perversion runs deep and it's going to take a lot of work to get rid of these degenerates.
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"Evil" is too extreme. They
"Evil" is too extreme. They are entrenched and won't be removed until you burn them off with a match like the bloodthirsty ticks they are.
We need to stay vigilant
THERE IS NO CHANCE AT THE 2012 CONVENTION EITHER BECAUSE MAKING THE RULES FOR IT WAS THE FIRST THING DONE AT THIS YEAR'S CONVENTION.
WE HAVE TO GET LOUD, GET DISOBEDIENT, AND GET CHANGE!
No doubt
The most difficult phase has passed. Now we must all work to build on the foundation laid over the past year.
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Well Said
Relax- take a deep breath- pull together for the r3VOLution to come, this was only the first battle.
THANK YOU!!!!
NATIONAL RP DELEGATES!!!!!
THANK YOU!!!!!!!
Bill
Hey I know this should be a separate thread
But I have been looking for a posting all day on what happened from our delegates perspective. I was on the road all day until this morning coming back from the Rally. I didn't see the convention at all. Please someone tell me what happened.
Summary
Arizona passed on the first round, a bunch of states voted for McCain until the total was 1171, the rest of the states passed, second role call, and AZ put McCain over the magic 1191 number. Small celebration, and McCain is the nominee.
For half a year...
...we endured endless posts from you such as "WE DID PICK UP THE MAJORITY OF DELEGATES THAN ALL THE OTHER CANDIDATES IN MOST EVERY STATE EXCEPT A FEW", and yet, last night seemed to indicate otherwise.
More snake oil?
Come on, I thought you promised 5 states on another occasion. From what I can see, Ron got a whopping goose egg. BTW, tell your buddy Rayzer42 that I'll be collecting on my bet with him, and when he gets around to it, have him message me on Rizon for the product and delivery location, or to make other arrangements.
What happened to "get the job done"? What job did you get done, besides bilking hopeful supporters for your venture?
Get lost, Troll
You are part of the problem.
Why is that?
What in my post is "trollish" or "part of the problem"?
Citing the guy's own claims?
There were RNC goons
Making SURE no one voted any other way!
I see Milly is using a name
I see Milly is using a name that is not banned from here yet. Don't worry it will be soon.
At that point in time we did. We know you don't care nor do you support ron paul and never did. Using words like paultards in your comments says it all.
Did you not see what the GOP did because we were not educated enough on the process and rules of order? Did you see the GOP break their own bylaws? That means we are winning and have won. If you bothered to read all I posted above you might actually learn something.
Maybe you have not seen all the victories that have been won? Oh you actually need to care to see the victories, I forgot you don't care.
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Good job
Got two of my rebuttals deleted.
Glad you've somehow deemed yourself the Minister of Information [Control].
BTW, I'm not Milly. Have your puppet who is supposedly modding DP on your behalf (ref to "I see Milly is using a name that is not banned from here yet. Don't worry it will be soon.") check the IPs. This acct is accessed from a static T1 line in Tampa, i.e. I'm the Vuck/VforVictory that has defecated in your cheerios from day 1.
With as many times as you've banned milly in your now empty chat room, you should know his networks by heart by now.
Actually, Dr. Parent
at least here in Nevada it was the NV GOP who did not chose to follow the rules. They apparently broke their own rules, the law, and the Elections Committee/Panel found them "inept." Mike Weber knew parlimentary procedures well and tried to get them to stick to them, but they only thumbed their noses at us and did whatever in the heck they decided to do.
I was there...I wasn't everywhere else, but I know that we tried very hard to enforce the rules and had very good guidance, but they just have their "traditions" and feel free to do whatever they want. Calls of "point of order" did no good as they were simply ignored. Robert Rules of Order only see to work if it benefits those with the gavel. If not, we got comments like "we don't follow those rules." If they are afraid of what you might say, they turn off the mics. Last night when Boehner asked are there any other nominations someone shouted out "Ron Paul" and he just quickly ignored and moved on. How do you fight that?
IT'S DOABLE
I know Paulette. I don't
I know Paulette. I don't know if i spoke to your group or not but I spoke to many in NV and you folks did exactly what you were supposed to do.
I was making general comments from things I knew delegates in some areas did wrong and I didn't mean to imply all of them if it came acrosss that way I apologize.
We have won many battles and will continue to win many more.
Most of us know we are winning but as I said the same trolls that only post in my posts would rather you bring out your guns and start a violent revolution and never supported Ron Paul.
They have said things like : Ron Paul is weak - is a plant - we are all paultards. I will ignore all their comments from here on out because most of you already know these people are not here for the movement but for their own purpose.
God Bless you Paulette, keep up the fight.
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Fight On
God Bless YOU DrSteve!!!
what
what is a Milly?
You are such an ass Milly!
You are such an ass Milly!
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What ever happened to...
...If you have nothing nice to say, don't say it?
Focus on Congressional Elections! B J Lawson for Congress !
This is one thing we can focus on right now ! B J Lawson is a great example and inspiration!
http://www.lawsonforcongr...
"Thomas Jefferson is rolling in his grave fast enough to be a new source of energy independence."~ samthurston
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I too have offered and followed this advice for many years. If
worth saving, then it's worth working for. Dr. Paul will be returning to the House and that's a good thing. I'm still working to get rid of one his collegues, in a nearby district, who is a devoted neocon. One seat at a time. Involve yourself everyday and do not be discouraged. Be positive, be helpful and understanding.
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I agree, wholeheartedly....
I support the "kick 'em all out" agenda, except for Ron Paul and a very few others....
Agreement from here, too
There are a bunch o' candidates, Republican and otherwise, who will never see a vote from me. In fact, I will deliberately vote against some of them. In case you missed it, Bob Beers...remember him, the chair who gaveled us in Nevada?....has had billboards and a web site set up against his candidacy by the local Democrats. See www.therealbeers.com
I practically begged him to come back to the convention on June 28th and lead us based upon his supposed conservative beliefs, but apparently the NV GOP stronghold overrules his principles. Maybe I am just fooling myself, maybe he never had any principles in the first place...just another puppet.
IT'S DOABLE
Agree, we need BJ to win!
BJ is a true son of the Revolution, and we cannot let down a true family man!
Lawson '12!!
C4L will be modeled on the precinct leader program
I was in the C4L Leadership Summit on Labour Day and they explained very clearly how the campaign will be organized. It is expected to be a grander, more focused, and more comprehensive version of the presidential campaign's precinct leader program.
I am not sure how much of the information I got was really meant to go public, so I won't get much into the details.
But, we are going to press forward and make a difference.
"They like to pretend I'm not here". Ron Paul
"Committed To The Eradication Of Poverty Among Patriots"
"Those Who Strive For Excellence Refuse To Fear Mediocrity; They Eradicate It."
They can pretend all they
They can pretend all they want but we all know they know we are here.
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