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The Wave - Must see

http://video.google.com/v...

now I lost my old topic... so I have request for mr Nystrom

plz make it so we can search not only recent posts my our recent posts

my recent posts brings up all posts you ever made a comment in, I can never find my old posts... so hear my plea and consider it please..

other than that I really think everyone should watch this movie...

bless you all

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Will we get this *crap* if we

don't think about supporting the Republican candidates. I really mean, this is more scary than McInsane!

If they take our children and mold them, this nation and any future generations will be doomed!!!

I'm just sayin...

Obama's training program described as 'Big Brother'

http://wnd.com/index.php?...

Critic says plan would herd 'American youth into government-funded re-education camps'

Posted: September 06, 2008
11:45 pm Eastern

© 2008 WorldNetDaily

The tax-funded Chicago organization cited as a probable model for programs to integrate youth into the social and political world under an Obama tenure in the White House is the epitome of "Big Brother" that shovels impressionable youth through a course of brainwashing, according to critics.
The organization is called Public Allies and Democratic presidential nominee Sen. Barack Obama was a founding member of the board of directors in 1992. He later resigned and his wife became executive director of the group.

According to an editorial in Investor's Business Daily, Obama plans to use the non-profit, which is funded partly by the federal government and is featured on Obama's campaign website, as the model for a national service corps, called the "Universal Voluntary Public Service."

WND reported earlier when Obama asserted in a Colorado Springs speech that the U.S. needs a "civilian national security force" that would be as powerful, strong and well-funded as the half-trillion dollar Army, Marines, Navy and Air Force.

In the July 2 speech in Colorado Springs, Obama insisted the U.S. "cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we've set."

He continued, "We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."

"Big Brother had nothing on the Obamas," said IBD. "They plan to herd American youth into government-funded re-education camps where they'll be brainwashed into thinking America is a racist, oppressive place in need of 'social change.'"

The organization itself doesn't seem that alarming. It describes itself as serving communities "while developing better leaders for tomorrow." Young adults are placed in "community leadership" posts with various agencies and given weekly "training." They get $1,800 plus health and child care.

But IBD warns the real mission is something else.

That, the editorial said, "is to radicalize American youth and use them to bring about 'social change' through threats, pressure, tensions and confrontation – the tactics used by the father of community organizing, Saul 'The Red' Alinsky."

Dr. Jerome Corsi, a WND columnist and the author of the No. 1 New York Times best-seller "The Obama Nation," agreed. He said the overall intent of the program is much the same as the goals of William Ayers, an Obama acquaintance who spent the 1970s and 1980s as an unrepentant radical, during his various programs regarding public education.

"Remember, Obama has followed Saul Alinsky's ultimate advice," Corsi explained. "Saul Alinsky said radicals like Jerry Rubin and Abbie Hoffman could not organize a picnic. Alinsky told his radicals to cut their hair, buy business suits and run for public office," he said.

"Ayers and Obama are both aimed at producing radical socialist change from within – working today to radicalize our institutions, instead of bombing them. Alinsky considered this approach to be much smarter because it was more likely to produce lasting 'change' and less likely to produce a backlash. In other words, the Alinsky-trained radical could apply more easily the Machiavellian technique of lying by denying they were pursuing radical goals if they appeared to be members in good standing of the establishment they were trying merely to 'change,'" he said.

IBD cited statistics from Public Allies itself, in which it boasted, "our alumni are more than twice as likely as 18-34 year olds to … engage in protest activities." The organization explains it already has dispatched 2,200 community organizers to agitate for "justice" and "equality" in Chicago, Cincinnati, Los Angeles and other cities.

"I get to practice being an activist," and get paid for it, Cincinnati recruit Amy Vincent said, according to IBD.

The organization boasts more than two-thirds of its recruits are "people of color," and 15 percent of "LGBT." When they're not out protesting, IBD said, "they're staffing AIDS clinics, handing out condoms, bailing criminals out of jail and helping illegal aliens and the homeless obtain food stamps and other welfare."

The Allies' own website confirms it has volunteers working for Planned Parenthood, LGBT centers and Boys & Girls Clubs.

Obama has encouraged individuals to shun the "money culture."

"If you commit to serving your community," he pledged in Denver while accepting the Democratic nomination for president, "we will make sure you can afford a college education."

The IBD said the sales pitch is finding supportive listeners among today's youth.

"I may spend the rest of my life trying to create social movement," it quotes Brian Coovert, of the Cincinnati Allies chapter saying. "There is always going to be work to do. Until we have a perfect country, I'll have a job."

IBD said taxpayers already fund half of Public Allies' expenses through President Clinton's AmeriCorps, and Obama wants to fully fund it and expand it into a national program that some see costing $500 billion.

The organization notes that it is a non-partisan organization so it does not endorse candidates. However, it has a lengthy description of the involvement by the Obamas with the organization.

"Under Michelle’s leadership, Public Allies Chicago pioneered many elements of Public Allies' program model. To identify and develop the next generation of Chicago leaders, she recruited young people from housing projects and youth centers as well colleges and universities. Her emphasis on indigenous leadership and belief that all people have potential to lead became a core value of our leadership philosophy. When she left, Public Allies Chicago had a cash reserve, a committed board, a talented young staff, and a network of diverse, talented young leaders in Chicago who continue to serve the community today. Michelle was also a pioneer in the social entrepreneur movement –leaders who create new approaches and organizations to provide new solutions to social problems," the organization said.

"Michelle was an amazing leader and role model for all of us. As a very young staff in the early years, we all emulated Michelle's incredible combination of professionalism, compassion, critical thinking and commitment to her community. For all of her immense talents, she was also one of the most down-to-earth, inclusive, and authentic leaders I’ve ever worked with. She really did believe that everyone could contribute to their communities and that leaders come from all backgrounds and all parts of the community. The Chicago program she pioneered really created the template we all work from today. We are proud of our colleague and wish her well," wrote Paul Schmitz, CEO of Public Allies.

argh

Fortune Favors the Bold

how these people trip themselves up. While I agree with the general point of this piece, and think Obama probably is a Leninist in the sense G. Edward Griffin describes, the bits about "staffing AIDS clinics" is such stupid hateful invective.

argh

Fortune Favors the Bold

how these people trip themselves up. While I agree with the general point of this piece, and think Obama probably is a Leninist in the sense G. Edward Griffin describes, the bits about "staffing AIDS clinics" is such stupid hateful invective.

Oh Mike

That search gave me more hits than I ever expected... that is not just freaky,
that is somehow scary. Purpose is great, somehow, but how is it achieved? People will begin to think that everything can be solved by talking it through. Everyone will become meek, just the right 'climate' for the blackwater brigade to put their boot in.

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Here's something kinda freaky

look up: working against violence everywhere
familiar theme?

Thanks for posting this.

I was rather impressed, and forwarded it to others.

One of them returned my email with this website: http://www.geniebusters.o...

Although I still say I enjoyed this study in human behaviour, after having read the research results by some as to what really happened, I once again realise I have to be a little more watchful taking things on board as seen in a movie which claims to be based on a true story.

What a strange site that is!

Fortune Favors the Bold

It's author, though intelligent, is a commited fascist, in the ideological sense of the term.

Still, many of his points concerning the events of the wave are valid.

I actually recall we were assigned to read it in sixth grade, and I questioned several aspects of the story from a logical and intuitive standpoint. My concerns were dismissed as being of the "it couldn't happen here" mentality.

While I think there was an experiment, a bit of common sense will tell you that it didn't happen the way the story goes. This is not an irrelevant point, as the story is suppossed to illustrate how the fascist mentality takes hold.

Very Effective

Telling a story like this, and especially living it, as the original class did, is a very effective way to teach a lesson.

Maybe the DVDs for Delegates project should put this on their next DVD!

IMissLiberty

I just watched it, very true

very effective

I wonder if you have tried the search option on the

right hand side in top bar.

I was planning on downloading this documentary and used that to find the thread.

These are the search results:
http://tinyurl.com/5kk2wf

Excellent

Wish there was a more modern version or a remake. But an excellent way to get the point accross. Thank you for posting this. As relevant now as it was back then. Gold star for you!

Wow,wow,wow

that is a MUST SEE. Thank you for sharing. Peace

youré welcome

I got to see this in school, when I was a kid, it made quite an impression on me... remembered it...

bumpzor

bless you all

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