What do 9/11 Truthers and Neocons have in common?

right when I agree with you 911 was an inside job. here I'll put it in caps for you so maybe you will stop long enough to pay attention

WE AGREE 911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

but it is rude to go to a C4L or Ron Paul event and talk about another movements issues expecialy when the leader of theat movement has nicely ask if you truely care for him please stop it. Also whether you donate to these events or not some of us donate to hear only this movements issues. You should only donate to this movements events if you want to participate with the issue we talk about at our events. No matter what anyone else says it is rude to hijack another movements events and talk about another movements issues even if you are a member of both movements. Is this way to complicated. Does it need to be put in a jack ran up the hill and jill bounced the ball type story. if not then you should understand and it should not happen again. If it does happen again then it is clear you think this movement is hear for you to take advantage of and to hijack their events if this is true I believe we should not welcome your movement to this movement. You threatin us that we will lose support hahaha well I'll take our message of freedom which draws people together over your message to divide any day. We will grow even if you all leave. Remember you lose those of us who take up for you and defend you when others attack you. We are not the only ones who will lose. If you cannot be around a national mic without feeling the need to grab the mic out of the speakers hand and screaming your montra then you should just stay away. If you do not see how rude this kind of activity is why should you be welcome in this movement. If you say they are the same movement you are wrong they are not. We believe constitutional government is the answer to the problems even 911 you believe finding the truth to 911 is the answer to all our problems. Diffrent movements! There can be cross over feelings but only one of these ideologies is right. I do not donate to C4L or the Ron Paul revolution to hear your ideology I only do it to hear theirs. that does not mean I cannot also support your movement but it does not merge the movements when I do. I would not be looking to hear someone talk about constitutional government at a truther rally neither I would want to here about all the details and how things happened. They are not the same movement. How many times do I have to say it they are not the same movement. Get it through your thick skull not the same! not the same!

NOT THE SAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

for nearly a century has been to serve them...

Do you recall Gen. Smedley Butler? Or the CIA plane that crashed with 4 tons of cocaine? The US forrestry planes in Columbia with tons of cocaine? The addmissons that the Gulf of Tolkin was a farce...? Operation Northridge... I could go on for days with this stuff...

It's not just one incident... it's a mountain of examples... and this includes my own experience in the military.

Let's learn to respect one another... one man or woman's opinion may have allot more weight than someone elses... and I tend to stick to those who know first hand vs. those that just have an opinion.

Arguing is useless... bring your evidence...let others discover it for themselves... that's all you can do... but if you haven't looked at the evidence and you still want to spout your opinion... so be it... just don't expect people to listen...

For a long time I just wanted to believe 9/11 was some terrorists... but after years of looking into it and being a Construction Manager who stood on the wreckage days after the event... it just didn't add up. Did Bush know... I really don't care... but there we're definately people who knew it was coming... wealthy people... with much power.

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and make you look like an idiot.. But since you are either trying to sling disinfo or are unintelligent to the point that you have no grasp on Newtonian Physics I will leave you with this. Shut UP. you have trolled enough already.

Dr. Paul's words about 9/11

he says we need a new investigation - and that says it all.

we are all wrong about 9/11 - because there was no REAL investigation of it.
period.

i'm not right. and neither are you.

you're forgetting that the neocons don't want another investigation.
and WE DO.

it was because of 9/11 that i even caught sight of Dr. Ron Paul.
and i fucking live in texas.

so this thread blows.

He allows people to think for themselves. He doesn't dictate to us what we are allowed to believe. I personally think the case should not be closed on 9/11 because the truthers have made some very good points about the inadequacy of the investigation and the many conflicting "official" explanations.

It just doesn't add up, and as someone here is fond of saying, "I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to."

they want if they are laying on the ground kicking and screaming but if they come to me and talk to me and explain what they want I am more likely to hear what they have to say. If my son interupts his siter while she is talking he gets nothing cause he is rude. I guess the parents (schools) now days do not teach manners. uuuugggghhhh. Well in your case I guess the would be AJ I guess you can't teach something you do not know yourself. You know its kind of like marxist taught take over at all expense control all conversations take over all power centers. If you people arn't carful you'll find yourself in the orange party if you don't know what it is look it up.

make me a winner. Your a doctor that has a high school deploma and a liscense what are you a caropractor hahaha. Its not a matter of truth because you ignore the truth. A constitutional government gets ride of all these problems proving 911 send some people to jail then all the other snakes take over and do it again. Why is this so hard for you to get through your head. Is it the brainwashing you go through on a daily bases that tells you this one truth will solve all the problems. I mean you guys are as thick as the brainwashed neocons.

THE ONLY ANSWER TO ALL OF THIS IS CONSTITUTIONAL GOVERNMENT!

If you believe this then donate for this cause and be involved if you also want to work for the truther cause make some events and invite us and we can come and support you but stop pushing your way into this movement to propagate your cause its offensive.

I would have respect for your event and not bring up my cause at your event. You people are so thick you event turn me off and I agree the government is a bunch of murderers.

we who know the truth, have a moral obligation to speak out.

ass doctor. I couldn't give a rats ass what you are in your livelyhood. This movement is about constitutional government if you want that stay and talk about it even invite people to your site to talk about your issue but we are not here for you to piggy back on and take advantage of our events and the media we work so hard to get is not for your cause.

Whether or not we agree with Dr. Paul's analysis of 911, and I don't, he's the best thing going for Constitutional government. You try "writing us out," and you're no better than the neocon sleaze running both major political parties.

Even Dr. Paul appears to favor impeaching George W. Bush, who should have been forced to resign for criminal incompetence after 911, even if you believe the "official story." What does that tell you about us as a nation that we re-elected him?

It taken decades to prove that FDR not only knew about Pearl Harbor, but engineered it to happen. Many documents involving the US government's role are still classified TOP SECRET. Google this, if you don't believe me. Those seeking the truth, then as now, are ridiculed, their patriotism questioned. We are supposed to believe in liberty, and part of liberty is the willingness to tolerate contrary ideas.

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it,"
Evelyn Beatrice Hall, not Voltaire, as people commonly believe.

around the Nation?

It clearly shows that there were early explosions in WTC7 & the OEM (Office of Emergency Managament) was abandoned.

http://www.youtube.com/wa...

but have your own event asshole. I can come to your site and we can talk about it all day if you like but that is not what this movement is about.

and for your information all of them

I know what happened that day and the reason we are in the mess we are in now is because all of you who cannot believe the government would actively hurt us.

they have quite literally lied about everything.

so for 9/11 they just happen to be telling the truth.

see i think believing that is the stupidest thing ever.

You people have now given them a pass for 9/11 and as long as you people stay in the dark is exactly how long our country will continue in its decline and path towards complete and irrecoverable facism.

you can say whatever you want one way or another .. but that is the truth.
these people are criminals .
and they need to be arrested
tried
and
executed as traitors.
.

Dr. Paul cured my apathy

sounds like you need to see a doctor dip shit RonBarr you seem like the confused one.

well it isn't the daily truther either they need to make their onw site and pay for their own events I should not have to pay for events so they can hijack them for their own cause if they do not want to donate to events that only have to do with constitutional government then dont donate but I am sick of them taking advantage of this movement.

If we have to engage in politics to get our people elected, and politics is sales (like it or not), then we need to market ourselves better.

If you believe planes crashed into the buildings from blowback from our foreign policies (Ron Paul)

or

the government planned it (Inside job)

either way, can we agree to just focus on the fact that the 911 investigation is incomplete and we need more answers. Can we come together on that and market ourselves in that way instead of being so over the top? The inside job theory doesn't sell well, but you can get people to agree on the ineptness.

Will be used to destroy the greatest movement for constitutional government since the founding fathers. You are all being lead to be disruptive and take away from the greatest message this country could ever hear. Would it make you happy if someone like myself who believes alot of what you say just leaves this movement and stop donating that way my belief in constitutional government wont get in your way of your great one issue argument of 911. If this is a one issue movement I'm out surely there is another movement of some kind that I can join where other people cannot get in the way of the only issue that will fix it all constitutional government anyone who knows of any other movement than this one please tell me what it is now I'm done having to share the stag with rude people who only care about winning an argument that will do nothing for constitutional government.

What Does Ron Paul And Jesse Ventura Have In Common?

Surprise! Surprise!
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Ron Paul on Glenn Beck: startin' at "4:00 minutes"

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"our military base in Saudi Arabia and other interventionist activities in the Middle East."

Wouldn't it be easier, more convenient, more appropriate for the terrorists to simply attack the military base(s)?

It would boost their Jehad!

He has skillfully used the government's own 'official' reports to build a case against Imperialism and interventionist foreign policy. It's a start.

His information is based on the government's (CIA) story in the case of 9/11.

Ron Paul is also slow and prudent about embracing any conclusion until it is well proven and historically seasoned.

Those are good characteristics.

That doesn't mean the legions of qualified and expert studies done by non-governmental scientists, law enforcement and engineers is invalid.

When you weigh the scientific studies done by experts who have nothing to gain, against the government stories who are at best trying to protect a lawless regime, it's not possible to walk away without a whole list of unanswered questions.

These non-governmental experts have in some cases, lost jobs, been marginalized and even killed because they couldn't accept the government's story.

Ask yourself, has any government official who defends the government story, been fired, marginalized or killed?

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The reason why Ron Paul does not publicly support the notion that the "Government had something to do with it" is that it would be political suicide to do so. There will come a time when that issue will be brought to the forefront, this is just not the right time.

The definition of a truther is:"One that pursues the truth"