A Ron Paul Republican No More!
Posted September 8th, 2008 by Michael Nystrom
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Lew Rockwell has a post up today titled "Ron Paul Republicans Drop Prefix." There were a few in the MA delegation that did the same thing, the night after the big vote. Today, I also have an announcement for all of my friends out there in Internetland. This morning I did something similar. Instead of dropping the prefix however, I dropped the suffix. I am a Republican no more.
To be clear, I joined the Republican party for one reason and one reason only, and that was to support Dr. Paul's presidential bid. I'm not a joiner. I don't like being part of ideologically driven groups, and certainly not this one (I mean the national GOP here, not my brothers and sisters in the MA delegation who I stand by), not after what I saw at the convention. I simply cannot stomach being a voluntary member of what I perceive to be a bullying, morally and spiritually bankrupt organization focused solely on appearance over substance. Our current two party system is nothing more than an elaborate hoax. It is a divide and conquer strategy against the American people, doing little more than creating false divisions among us – the more the better – to get us hating and mistrusting one another. I saw it all first hand at the convention, though the negotiations of the infamous “deal,” and in conversations with other Republicans, delegates and strategists. Politics is a game of deception: Look over here at the war while the economy goes down the tubes. Trust me – I'm on your side (until I screw you).
My involvement in Ron Paul's campaign began as a political quest, but it has grown into a spiritual one. One of the most important things I've taken away from the last 18 months is (surprised?) personal freedom and liberty. Without understanding the nature of personal freedom and liberty, we cannot ever hope to build a free nation. Like Ron Paul, I will never abandon the cause of Liberty, but I choose to fight it from outside the bounds of the Republican Party. Can you imagine if Gandhi, or Martin Luther King felt than in order to change their countries, they had to do it from within the confines of the existing political system? What if they said, “I'll start working my way up, beginning with the post of Town committeeman.” As Dr. Paul said at the end of his speech at the Rally – this movement is much bigger than the Republican party, or the Democratic party or the Libertarian party.
Please understand that I am not here to say that working inside the GOP is bad or wrong or being sellout. I don't believe that. Like Dr. Paul, I don't want to control your life, or coerce you into thinking that I know what the best path is for you. There is only one person who knows that, and
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Personal freedom. Most people tiptoe through their lives on the way to death. These are the ones who are afraid, who do not realize the freedom and the power they have.
The reason I am writing this is to give anyone courage who is wavering about how to best carry on in this fight. There is no single right way. You are free to choose, but keep in mind the very important piece of advice Dr. Paul gave us: Have fun! This is your life, and yours to live as you choose. If you have fun in the GOP, then good! Roll with it and share the fun with us. Before long, it will be a real party.
To all of my friends and fellow revolutionaries on the Daily Paul, to my brothers and sisters both inside the GOP and out, to the amazing crew of people from the MA delegation who shared in a tremendous week out in Minneapolis – every single one of you – know that I love you, and that everything is going to be just fine.
More on the word love tomorrow.
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funny
I was thinking that someone might bump up that famous post LOL
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Thanks! 'Tis another beautiful day in paradise, here...
...and I really should get out and about (and AWAY from this computer!). After all, I AM paying dearly for all this gorgeous weather... :-)
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I used to spend many winters in San Diego area
if I was you right now I would go to sit under a palm tree in Balboa Park or lay on the warm sand on Coronado beach...
Toronto now sunny and all is frozen solid LOL
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bump for Michael's
bump for Michael's wisdom.
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oh so close
Michael I like you spirit ,but NOV 4 who you gona call ?..JUST hand it over ??
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If the polls are correct and
If the polls are correct and Obama ends up as President, then maybe, just maybe, the republican party will realize that they have all but killed their own party and will try to revive it by upholding the Constitution. But I doubt it. They just may be known as the war party forever more.
does not make any
does not make any difference! the repubs and the dems are sleeping together!
"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson
I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain
If Obama wins
HA! If he wins, it is all over and the GOP will no longer have any power or influence.
The Paulites etc have been too busy trying to "send a message" to the Republicans to concentrate on the REAL issue - Defeating Obama!
I am no fan of John McCain, but he at least gives us SOME of the things we are looking for, and if he won we would live to fight another day!
Baldwin, McKinney, and a couple others - WHAT do they have to offer, EVEN if they had a CHANCE of winning? So we have split up our vote amongst several losers, to what end? To let Obama get in and finish up the job of destroying our country?
And you don't think Bush
And you don't think Bush hasn't all but destroyed our country and McCain wouldn't finish it off? McCain will give us more war, more debt, and take away what remaining rights we have left. Obama promises the same.
Things look pretty bad no matter how you look at it. Perhaps we should start our own country.
I need to read Harry Browne's How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World. Has anyone here read it and can you tell me the secret?
perhaps
the neocons should have thought about that while they were pursuing another unconstitutional war, attacking the rights of the people to "protect" them, running up huge deficits, and increasing the size of government.
Obama is a creation of the Republican party. If defeating Obama was the REAL issue, then with control of the house, senate, and executive, the GOP should have thought about it and done something that would have put them in a position to do so. The REAL issue for them was creating Obama (and crushing Ron Paul) instead.
If the GOP wants to defeat Obama, they should boot McCain and put Ron Paul up as their candidate. It's as simple as that.
One HALF of "the war party"...
...both halves are equally culpable.
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True except that the people
True except that the people who vote democrat are generally against the Iraq war. Whereas most of the people who vote republican are warmongers and proud of it.
True, except that I thought we were talking about the parties...
...and not the voters. We all know that both halves of the war party don't give a damn about what the voters think. :-)
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Just voted for CHUCK BALDWIN
I am quitting the neo-con Republican party--it is a dying party. It will never ever win a presidential election again.
I've heard that song before!
After '64 I heard the GOP was finished, again after '76 and again after '92. The Republican party will continue as will the Democrats.
vote Nader
and pave the way for Jesse Ventura 2012
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let the party begin
I'm registered DEM .changed 12 yrs ago looking for good candidates ..LOCAL stuff ...Have not found any here either....3rd is my next try ..I'm ready...
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Hopefully this says it all...
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let me tell ya something people.
The Republicans and the Democrats are the most corrupt bunch out there.
But guess what, the Republicans are the most corrupt crooks, every time, they will side with the rich elite and snub their noses at the hard working American. The Democrats swing too much the other way, and oftentimes endorse welfare for the lazy.
I am not rich, never will be, I will never side with the Republicans unless Ron Paul or Jesse Ventura is on the ticket. Someone with real core values and ideals.
Maybe alot of the dailypauler's are rich, but I'm not, and I agree with Michael Nystrom.
Neither party will truly adhere to Ron Paul's principles, that is why Kevin Tuma's post of "This movement needs a party" is so relevant right now.
"The Constitution was written not to regulate you in any way, the purpose of the Constitution is to restrain the government." Ron Paul.
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I think you're dead wrong
I think you're dead wrong about that. The ruling class that controls both parties does give a damn about anyone but their own. Democrats favoring poor people is just an illusion. The ruling elite let the illusion of control swing back and forth between the parties just to appease the masses into believing there is a difference. I refuse to fall for this ruse any longer. As for Obama.... I live in a Black neighborhood and I can tell you from first hand experience that a Black man will sell out a Black man faster than any White man would. If anyone thinks Obama is going to do any better for them than ass-holes like McCain or Bush, they are in for a rude awakening.
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I've had the feeling for
I've had the feeling for some time now that Michael's heart was not into making the full transition to the Campaign for Liberty, and I guess this confims that.
Dr. Paul layed out for us the most effective way to win this fight, and that is the CFL precinct leader program where we go door to door in our own neighborhoods, contacting people face to face, and interacting with them on a personal level. It's more effective than web sites, telephone calls, letters, newspapers, radio or television. He gave us the tools so use'em or lose it.
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I'm with you, Michael
After what we went through here in Colorado assaulted and abused by the criminally insane in the so-called Republican Party I have felt sick and ashamed of being an American in this state. After watching the criminals in a neighboring town rip off all their neighbors with only one lone lady standing against them until she was destroyed I felt sick and ashamed to be an American in this state. I felt the same way when we saw what "they" did to Ron Paul and all the beautiful people who were supporting him.
Who was complaining the other day about none standing tall? There are a few who do stand and fight and persevere. We can win. Indeed I think at times we are winning. When we see the Bad Guys bring in troops, change the laws to shield their criminal selves and blame the innocent Libertarians for what they themselves perpetrate and release lists of "hate" websites from their own world-hating web site - we can see we are indeed having an effect. They are beginning to feel cornered.
The Republican Party as it was and is being operated is a manifestation of FEAR, GREED and POWER HUNGER. Where is the LOVE? We are the Love and it is our love that is awakening people to who and what they really are. True, we don't need no stinking political party to wake people up. But we do need one to seat a president. I didn't start this 40 years ago to just walk away. We stick to it and we win while they lose.
the shortest distance between two points is a straight line
I think since we have a two party system that isn't changing any time soon, we need to take over the party and change it from within to really make it. The party was once great. It can be again. The values we stand for are old school but they are still rooted in the GOP.
The current GOP membership of morally bankrupt fools were in a position of power and we caught them off guard which brought out their more reprehensible characteristics of lying and stealing at any cost to win. But we have to be relentless elbow to elbow in their faces every step of the way until they quit and we regain the party and make it great once again. Evil doesn't like the light, and our shining beacon will make them run for cover of darkness, I say lets bring it on.
We need a coup and we need warm bodies willing to go the distance. The party is weak and tired and really evil. The new life we can breath into it will give the Democrats a run for their money. We have to reinvent the GOP with traditional values so people will see just how wonderful freedom and liberty can be.
Creating a new party that will just be ignored by the media is a waste of time. We have a perfectly good party that needs a jump start, and we are just the educated, passionate member's she needs.
I registered for Ron Paul
I changed my status to Republican after learning about Ron Paul. For many years I was an NPA (no party affiliate) I decided to stay Republican for the simple reason of statistics. I want to be a registered republican not voting for the duopoly.
Republican hypocrisy.
In my state, there is a war going on in the GOP party. I'm guessing that it is directed from up high in the party. The party wants to appeal to more people and is thus watering down all of the strong conservative principles they once espoused. That is why the republican party as it is today looks and acts more and more like the democrats.
Where I live, the party has not been backing the republican candidate for the US Senate. All because the candidate is not their anointed one. The anointed candidate lost the primary and the person who won is not a typical political puppet. He stands for what the old GOP was about and will not back down.
If that isn't hypocrisy, I don't know what is.
"The party wants to appeal
"The party wants to appeal to more people and is thus watering down all of the strong conservative principles they once espoused."
Such as...?
I hate to be a wet blanket, but this fabled "strong conservative principled" GOP never existed. The GOP has had zero conservative Presidents and only a handful of conservatives on Capitol Hill---Ron Paul, Robert Taft, Barry Goldwater. That does not constitute a consensus.
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You might be just right on
You might be just right on that. The GOP is suppose to be the party of low taxes, pro-life, and as Ron Paul says, the republican party was once the party that was for no foreign entanglements.
Dick Clark in the linked column has it right:
"On taxes, the Democrat favors a top income tax rate of 39.5 per cent and the Republican favors a top rate of 35 per cent. Well ain't democracy grand? We get to debate a whole four and a half percentage points. We'd better spread this system around the world!"
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affirmation: President Paul
affirmation: President Paul 2008
Dear Michael,
You are simply awesome. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and thank you for this wonderful site.
This Is Outrageous
Dredging up this old canard from 6 weeks ago!
At the time, we made it obvious how ridiculous it is for someone claiming to have a Campaign for Liberty supporting website to disown the Republican Party in which it operates.
So you went to the party and the political jocks and cheerleaders snubbed you. So what? There are thousands and thousands of others out there just like you who are unhappy with what has happened in this election and who need leadership. You are running away just when you are needed and your opportunity would have appeared.
Maybe you're just too politically introverted to face up to your opportunity. Don't blame others if you're a political wallflower.
Go back to slurping the GOP
Go back to slurping the GOP Kool-Aid by the bucketful.
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You're just making friends
You're just making friends all over the place, aren't you?
I guess you're a Republican?
It is because the party is full of know-it-all's like you that I left.
Good riddance!
I Know One Thing...
I don't know it all, but I know this much:
100,000 Ron Paul supporters off by themselves would make just another pathetic splinter party.
100,000 Ron Paul supporters active in leadership of the Republican Party would make Ron Paul's Campaign for Liberty a raging success.
I also know that there are a lot of simple, well-meaning people in the Republican Party who are foundering for lack of a decent leader.
Just because some really rotten people have opportunistically taken over isn't an excuse to run away. Just the opposite. In running away you are abdicating your moral responsibility.
Supposedly most Americans
Supposedly most Americans are against the Iraq War. I tried googling the latest polling numbers but was unable to find anything current.
Whenever I attend my local GOP meeting, it is clear that no one in the room had better say anything that is in any way in opposition to Bush's foreign policy. It is blasphemy to do do. Likewise at the state GOP convention. It seems it is not possible to be an acceptable republican unless you support the Iraq war.
How is it possible for you to feel comfortable in such an environment?
Comfort
Who says I feel comfortable in this battle environment?
Someone on another thread said something very deep...
He said "comfort feels like freedom."
I won't settle for comfort.
We need to accept discomfort, find points of agreement, insinuate ourselves into the party structure, and them introduce liberty ideas as coming from one who has established his credibility.
In other words, we need to reverse the process the neocons used to take over. Do you think they felf "comfortable" among all those small government Republicans, Christians even, when they arrived fresh from their Trotskyite haunts?
I grant you, we have a disadvantage compared with the psychopaths in the neocon movement. Most of us have a conscience.
If that is enough to stop you from fighting for freedom, then what hope do we have?
Do your fellow local
Do your fellow local republicans know that you oppose the republican lust for war?
Or do you keep that to yourself? Do they even realize that you support Ron Paul?
No, there are some people
No, there are some people who don't have the stomach for sleaze. Not everyone wants to wallow in a cesspool. There are other ways to spread Ron Paul's message. Let them do what they do best.
Cesspools
Nobody wants to wallow in a cesspool.
But let me tell you something about cesspools I learned by experience.
A cesspool fulfills a useful purpose.
When a cesspool becomes to choked with filth to fulfill its purpose, the sewage backs up into the whole house.
Unless someone is willing to clean out the cesspool, the house becomes uninhabitable.
This has nothing to do with comfort or enjoyment.
Some things just need to be done.
Now, just do it!!!!!
Why do you think I know so
Why do you think I know so much about the this cesspool? How much progress have you personally made with regard to the republican, (there is never a war we don't like,) party's blind support of the Iraq war? I would guess NONE.
Bump for clarity. SUPPORT
Bump for clarity.
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I "feel your pain"
I "feel your pain" Michael.
Thank you for all the good times we've had here on dp. Many times I think it kept me from going insane.
The whole thing makes me a little - no, a lot - sick to my stomach.
To think that, given the chance to hear the truth, the real truth, many more well-meaning Americans (sheep) just would have HAD to come around to Ron Paul's way of thinking. It's so sad. The criminals in charge across the board are doing whatever they want. Nobody to stop them. Sickening.
Thanks to all you true patriots who did their best to put Ron Paul in the White House where he belongs.
God help us all.
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Politically homeless...Again:(
Thank you, Michael, for this post, for ALL YOU DO!!! and for all you had to endure at the RNC on our behalves. I've been a life-long Republican who left three years ago and returned to vote for Ron Paul, and I think the party is well on its way to self-destruction and should be left alone to do so.
There were times that I thought we had a chance of returning the party to its small-government roots regardless of how RP finished the race. In the end, the scene you and others have described depicts a party that has completely lost its senses, and I have no desire to be a part of keeping it alive. (Just looking at some of the maniacal reactions your post has caused here only proves the point).
Ultimately, we should select our representatives for their principles and character and not for the letter that stands before their name. By abandoning the party, I do not abandon Ron Paul or his principles. I will continue to work hard spreading Ron Paul's philosophy of liberty and helping to end the two-party stranglehold.
The question is - what party, if any, to join? I used to think I fit into the Libertarian Party, but my local leaders supported continued war against the 'Jihad' - yuck! The Constitution Party (formerly American Independent Party) seems to be the JBS Party, and I am not comfortable around those folks either. There is the NAIP (NEW American Independent Party), but I don't know much about them yet, although I find a lot to like in their candidate. I could remain undecided, and probably will until more experience points me in the right direction.
Until then, I am no longer a Ron Paul Republican, but I will always be a Ron Paul R3VOLUTIONARY!
to be honest, I don't find
to be honest, I don't find much to like about this particular Nystrom post.
How Can You Be A Ron Paul Supporter And Dismiss His Program?
This is from a PBS interview with Ron Paul on the Rally for the Republic:
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It is posted and linked on the C4L site, so not only is Ron Paul the source of these words, but the C4L stands behind it.
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Note this excerpt:
NOW: "What outcome seems more likely to meet your campaign's goals: a new viable third party, or a complete reformation of the Republican Party?"
RP: "Both are options. Influencing and steering back the Republican Party to its roots is the most realistic means right now. A third party is extremely difficult, so that will be addressed only the down the road if we can't steer the GOP back to its traditions."
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NOTE THAT RON PAUL HAS NOT GIVEN UP ON CORRECTING THE REPUBLICAN PARTY! So, enough of this quitting talk. Go back and join Ron Paul in taking the GOP back to its roots.
Or do you know more than the man you claim to follow?
Don't question the sincerity
Don't question the sincerity of Michael Nystrom, just because he disagrees with Ron Paul on the Republi-Fascist Party.
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I'm wondering
if he will vote for Ron Paul Republicans. That would be supporting the Republican Party. I've asked but haven't been able to get a straight answer. If he refuses to even to do that then it would seem like he's abandoning the campaign for liberty -- that he's not on the same page philosophically and that it was just Ron Paul the man that he supported or a few pet issues rather than the overall philosophy. Maybe he's not, and that's fine because it's his free choice. But I'm curious, since he made a public issue out of it.
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What Staying in the Party Means and Doesn't Mean
Staying in the Party means working to reorganize it along pro-liberty lines, long term.
No doubt many will vote 3rd party for the top of the ticket this time around. If that is what Michael means, I have no quarrel with him. That is a way of teaching the party leaders a lesson, and possibly weakening them so that the Party will be more open to liberty candidates in the future.
However, if he means to disassociate himself completely, then he is not supporting Dr. Paul's agenda.
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