Submitted by Impailed4u on Tue, 09/09/2008 - 19:55.
The money is going into domestic & foreign funds to bolster the markets. Fanny & Freddy will yield aprox 2.5 trillion $ loss for the tax U.S. payer.
The high yields, from foreign funds; investers are bragging about making, are the result of their own tax money circulating through foreign governments & foreign funds, which drives the dollar value lower. The U.S. national debt is giving great returns to those who are invested in overseas funds ,basicly foriegn investers,who now have also been kept solvent & profiting at the expense of the U.S. taxpayer, with the fanny & freddy bail- out. OF course we had no choice but to bail these markets out as our brainy master investers just had to save face with the foriegn investors who hold most of the investment in these two financial institutions. We as a nation are becoming more & more reliant & blackmail-able to the N.W.O. & the Wo. Bank., GERMANY, Russia & China who want to do away with the U.S. Constitution for a World takeover. We are not fighting for our oil, we are fighting for Europes oil flow. Russia wants what would be their cut of oil profits before the WALL came down, (DEAL made with N.W.O.).
Thats my take
says
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"Just like Alex Jones will do; he'll try to put words in my mouth... You try to put words in my mouth too, just like Alex Jones does." - Ron Paul http://www.youtube.com/watc
Why vote for the lesser of two evils when you can go all in?
vote Satan/Paulson '08
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"the only thing that keeps the banking system from failing is general ignorance about how the banking system works."
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"...there is no doubt that it (socialism) could not possibly have affected us so widely and so deeply as it has, had it not been heavily financed". - B. Carroll Reece
When everything falls it means that there is a depression, not because there is a lack of dollars, for which there are many, but the dollars are not in the hands of the people, they have actually been collected by central banks around the world to provide a preceived shortage.
The reason Petroleum is falling is because their has never been a shortage, there is just a cartel which limit production, there is actually more is being produced and discovered, just look at recent discoveries in Brazil. Not to mention that there are alternatives to petroleum if we were allowed to use them.
My suggest is, DON`T BORROW FRN`S and exchange what you have for real something of real value, food foremost, since it is likely to fall with record production in Brazil and the States and then gold and silver for storing your wealth.
grant
in the financial markets.
A lot of smart people have predicted the beginning of a total financial meltdown starting in September.
To me the markets just don't make sense any more.
Submitted by e_goldstein on Tue, 09/09/2008 - 16:56.
despite negative real rates of return...and oh, gold and silver are so worthless that it's impossible to find any to buy. Of course, all my money is still going into bullion (when I can find some) ammunition and canned foods.
Why vote for the lesser of two evils when you can go all in?
vote Satan/Paulson '08
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"the only thing that keeps the banking system from failing is general ignorance about how the banking system works."
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I hope there is complete collapse so we can have both parties destroyed.
Please watch Jesse Ventura speech at the Rally.
I watched 3 times and every time I am more and more positive about our final victory~just a matter of time.
Submitted by melgesman on Tue, 09/09/2008 - 18:17.
like the paper commodity markets where consumptive supply and demand is being affected by the overall fundamentals of the economy and in real estate where bubble walls have thinned. This is not true at the consumer/retail level which is the one that everyone uses to make purchase or sale decisions. There we see inflation and price rise.
Whereas much of the commodity market is governed by the"laws" of supply and demand as altered by government interference, the price drop in the metals markets is a complete manipulation with no relationship to actual market fundamentals whatsoever.
**“The man who does not read good books has no advantage over the man who cannot read them.” ~ Mark Twain **
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"...there is no doubt that it (socialism) could not possibly have affected us so widely and so deeply as it has, had it not been heavily financed". - B. Carroll Reece
deleveraging is whats going
deleveraging is whats going on!
http://www.321gold.com/editorials/moriarty/moriarty090708.html
as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD
"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson
I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain
Oil = Gold or will?
20 years it will look like Mad Max (Mel Gibson) in some countries.
"Evil flourishes when good men do nothing."
—Edmund Burke
A Republic, If You Can Keep It
money goes to
The money is going into domestic & foreign funds to bolster the markets. Fanny & Freddy will yield aprox 2.5 trillion $ loss for the tax U.S. payer.
The high yields, from foreign funds; investers are bragging about making, are the result of their own tax money circulating through foreign governments & foreign funds, which drives the dollar value lower. The U.S. national debt is giving great returns to those who are invested in overseas funds ,basicly foriegn investers,who now have also been kept solvent & profiting at the expense of the U.S. taxpayer, with the fanny & freddy bail- out. OF course we had no choice but to bail these markets out as our brainy master investers just had to save face with the foriegn investors who hold most of the investment in these two financial institutions. We as a nation are becoming more & more reliant & blackmail-able to the N.W.O. & the Wo. Bank., GERMANY, Russia & China who want to do away with the U.S. Constitution for a World takeover. We are not fighting for our oil, we are fighting for Europes oil flow. Russia wants what would be their cut of oil profits before the WALL came down, (DEAL made with N.W.O.).
Thats my take
says
see to your liberty
You said "which drives the dollar value lower."`
The dollar has been rising because, the Central Banks already knew Paulson plan a take-over, weeks ago.
"Evil flourishes when good men do nothing."
—Edmund Burke
A Republic, If You Can Keep It
a better questioin ...
Where did all the money come from?
Future Taxes...
...it's DEBT money (a promise to pay -- and tax -- later).
F.I.A.T. money = Future Is Already Taxed (backronym).
Does the FED actually print all this money or do they just add
Does the FED actually print all this money or do they just add some zeros to a virtual account or both?
"Evil flourishes when good men do nothing."
—Edmund Burke
A Republic, If You Can Keep It
It's all just creative accounting...
With "digital dollars" and other forms of BS.
China.
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beat me to it
When you think about it China is the ideal country the nwo wants.
A bunch of drones that will do anything no matter what.
You could stick them in gasoline and they will roast themselves for "The Emperor".
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Glen Beck -- An Exposed Enemy:
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/90198
Glenn Beck Supports NAFTA and taking your job:
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/86643
Doc says it comes from thin air
I suspect that's where it going - back into thin air
To bribe politicians?
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"Just like Alex Jones will do; he'll try to put words in my mouth... You try to put words in my mouth too, just like Alex Jones does." - Ron Paul http://www.youtube.com/watc
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"Just like Alex Jones will do; he'll try to put words in my mouth... You try to put words in my mouth too, just like Alex Jones does." - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2370864598223573012&...
Why the raise in the Dollar? Foreign manipulation?
"Evil flourishes when good men do nothing."
—Edmund Burke
A Republic, If You Can Keep It
More like US directiing.
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Don't forget....
dollar still on it's belly...
gas still over $3.30 a gallon...
banks being annexed at and alarming rate...
food prices rising...
ammo prices rising...
am I forgetting anything?
I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...
I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...
Is the US on the precipiece of a financial meltdown?
Consider the following:
1. Currently the national debt is approximately $9 trillion.
2. The Fannie/Freddie obligation is approximately $4.5 trillion which has just been passed on to the taxpayer and their children.
3. Each child born in the USA is greeted upon birth with a $35,000 tax debt share.
4. Other countries are begining to doubt the financial stability of of ivesting in the US.
Is this normal or is it time to ask - Is the US on the precipiece of a financial meltdown?
on the precipice?
Technically, I think it's more like this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz65AOjabtM&feature=related
Why vote for the lesser of two evils when you can go all in?
vote Satan/Paulson '08
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"the only thing that keeps the banking system from failing is general ignorance about how the banking system works."
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That Says It All
Perfect...........!
Best laugh all day! Thanks
"Evil flourishes when good men do nothing."
—Edmund Burke
A Republic, If You Can Keep It
Oh, but you forget...
The $62,000,000,000,000.00 in unfunded liabilities (Welfare, Social Security and Medicare) that will have to be paid over the next 20 years!
Yep
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/47951
**“The man who does not read good books has no advantage over the man who cannot read them.” ~ Mark Twain **
"...there is no doubt that it (socialism) could not possibly have affected us so widely and so deeply as it has, had it not been heavily financed". - B. Carroll Reece
Who trusts the government?
When everything falls it means that there is a depression, not because there is a lack of dollars, for which there are many, but the dollars are not in the hands of the people, they have actually been collected by central banks around the world to provide a preceived shortage.
The reason Petroleum is falling is because their has never been a shortage, there is just a cartel which limit production, there is actually more is being produced and discovered, just look at recent discoveries in Brazil. Not to mention that there are alternatives to petroleum if we were allowed to use them.
My suggest is, DON`T BORROW FRN`S and exchange what you have for real something of real value, food foremost, since it is likely to fall with record production in Brazil and the States and then gold and silver for storing your wealth.
grant
i have this feeling something big is about to happen
in the financial markets.
A lot of smart people have predicted the beginning of a total financial meltdown starting in September.
To me the markets just don't make sense any more.
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http://silversnowball.com/291
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"The essence of freedom is the proper limitation of government". ~ Founding Fathers
I forgot about the Dollar..it's going up
"Evil flourishes when good men do nothing."
—Edmund Burke
A Republic, If You Can Keep It
10 year and 30 year bonds up
despite negative real rates of return...and oh, gold and silver are so worthless that it's impossible to find any to buy. Of course, all my money is still going into bullion (when I can find some) ammunition and canned foods.
Why vote for the lesser of two evils when you can go all in?
vote Satan/Paulson '08
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"the only thing that keeps the banking system from failing is general ignorance about how the banking system works."
----------------------------
by election time
I hope there is complete collapse so we can have both parties destroyed.
Please watch Jesse Ventura speech at the Rally.
I watched 3 times and every time I am more and more positive about our final victory~just a matter of time.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/57925480@N00/2660779139/sizes/l/
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It is evaporating into thin air.
Ever heard of a liquidity crisis.
Do you know what it means to be leveraged 30 times over.
Deflation is showing its ugly head.
To see deflation in spite of the presses running 24/7 is a sign.
Clue: This is not a good sign.
WAHOR!!
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/48994
WAHOR!!
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/48994
Deflation is in evidence in selective markets..
like the paper commodity markets where consumptive supply and demand is being affected by the overall fundamentals of the economy and in real estate where bubble walls have thinned. This is not true at the consumer/retail level which is the one that everyone uses to make purchase or sale decisions. There we see inflation and price rise.
Whereas much of the commodity market is governed by the"laws" of supply and demand as altered by government interference, the price drop in the metals markets is a complete manipulation with no relationship to actual market fundamentals whatsoever.
**“The man who does not read good books has no advantage over the man who cannot read them.” ~ Mark Twain **
"...there is no doubt that it (socialism) could not possibly have affected us so widely and so deeply as it has, had it not been heavily financed". - B. Carroll Reece
Deflation lags in some markets ....
The last of which will be retail.
You give government too much credit with respect to precious metals.
We are not in normal times.
Take precautions ...
Be prepared ...
Be patient, but be prepared.
WAHOR!!
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/48994
WAHOR!!
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/48994
Washington wants oil down and stocks up for the election
I could have. No. We could have told them this. Keep sheep asleep. Their mantra
http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker/article/55396/Washingto...
they are trying to scare you
they are trying to scare you into selling your precious metals to tumble the market and prop their phony numbers up
Ha Ha really you don't
Ha Ha really you don't know!!??
In the hands of the elite.