Chuck Baldwin - Libertarian?

Ron Paul said that conservatism is libertarianism!

I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain

who cares if he adopts the 'libertarian' label or not. you're telling me you disagree w/ his message: http://www.dailypaul.com/... ???? then you disagree w/ RP's as well. the whole point of RP's message of voting for a 3rd party candidate was that the only way to break the stranglehold of the 2 party system is for voters to start voting for principle, NOT labels.

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I also demand that you immediately look into the legality of the Federal Reserve system and see if it still has our best interests at heart, I think you'll find it does not. I demand sound currency and a constitutionally sound government. That is the only way it will protect the true purchasing power of the nation.

He is not a member of the Libertarian party, he is a member of the Constitution party.

Go cry somewhere else you sore loser. Ron Paul endorsed Baldwin. Do you think he would do that if he felt that Baldwin would not obey the Constitution?

A president's job is not a pastor's job.
Baldwin knows that.
That has to be assumed because he is an intellectual (Dr.) with theological DEGREE, if I am right - in contrast, for instance, to Huckabee. So he wouldn't lead the States like a theocracy though he is even a BAPTIST pastor.
He knows the difference, because he underlines his CONSTITUTIONAL position by being a candidate for the CP.

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would have been a member (and VP candidate?) of the LP if he was a Libertarian. He is very much a libertarian though. You do not have to agree with everything. You do not have to be on the top of the Nolan chart to be a libertarian. Paul, Barr and Baldwin are all libertarians. I am sure Dr. Paul feels the same as Baldwin about gambling, destruction of family life and decline in moral fibre, but that does not means he would use the Federal govt. power to ban it. Baldwin supports a federaLISTIC, NOT federal handling of these issues as well, I think.

But that doesn't mean you shouldn't vote for him if you are. If you feel like you agree with him on the balance of issues, then he's who you should vote for.

I would not vote for him. Because I have love for all americans, even if they are gay (and many of my friends are gay), and Chuck's stance on those issues is a little worrisome for me. Okay this is a gross simplification, but I feel like there are two types of christians, I call them "constantine" christians and "augustine" christians -- the former willing to use the long arm of the state, force, and violence to impose christian moralities; the other intending to spread the good word by setting good examples. Some of my most cherished friends (those to whom I go to for spiritual advice) are evangelical christians who fall into the latter category. Sadly, when it comes to the polls they vote for constantine christians.

My personal opinion of Baldwin is that he is mostly "augustine" but crosses over to "constantine" from time to time, on the balance he's a great candidate, and ultimately a better candidate than any of the others in the field.

But I also cannot vote for him, since I am in California, so my point is moot. Sadly I also cannot encourage my evangelical friends to vote for him, either, since they all also live in California.

The other night I met a marine noncom who's writing in Ron Paul. My father (living in Hawai`i, another state without Baldwin on the ballot) would probably align much closer to Baldwin on many issues, perhaps, except for christianity, and he finally flipped over tonight and said he would write in Ron Paul in November. It took a lot of courage for him to admit this to me but his turning point was when he realized that FNMA and FHLMC CEOs both were huge contributors to Obama.

Our best chances are to get Ron Paul to be speaker of the house -- that way he's two heartbeats from the presidency.

Maybe you don't really like Ron Paul. This is from the Ron Paul Library. http://www.ronpaullibrary...

the Christo-fascists DID vote for Huckabee. The freedom-loving Christians support Paul and Baldwin.

Maybe we should not have laws against murder, rape, and theft because those things are sins according to Christianity - and you want no part of Christian principles.

this does not mean that he is not for liberty. He has tried to let his personal views shape the philosophy of liberty, which doesn't work, but most of us are willing to make some compromise, his is not worse and is much better than many others. I'll vote for him just because Ron Paul endorses him and given what has happened with the Libertarian party, the one who most closely shares my views.

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Chuck Baldwin is not a Libertarian. He is a libertarian, just like Ron Paul.

Homosexuals, dope users, gamblers, etc. who call themselves Libertarians sometimes are only looking for official sanction and support for their behavior from government. They would silence all who would publicly express disapproval of their lifestyle choices or who would attempt to persuade them to choose a less self-destructive lifestyle.
Such are not libertarians at all, even though they join the Libertarian Party. They are libertines. They want to live not only unmolested by the state but supported by it, and to suppress those who disagree.

at least he's up front with them. Several ministers signed the Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution. Would you reject THOSE documents because they are "tainted with theocracy"? The "founding fathers" believed human rights are given by God. Do you reject those rights, simply because you don't believe in God?

Chuck Baldwin has promised to nominate Ron Paul as Secretary of the Treasury, giving Dr. Paul his best shot at killing the Federal Reserve. That's more important to Dr. Paul than his being president, and it should be more important to us, as well.

I think Baldwin is the best candidate right now. I do not like Baldwins or the CP's overly religious overtones either. However I think Baldwin would be more likely to follow the constitution then anyone else and leave certain matters up to the states and people despite his strong feelings on them. I could be wrong but only time will tell

I never trusted Barr form day one. He did his job and divided the LP I am sure he will be paid handsomely for his fine work.

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I might write an article on how anti-libertarian (and anti-constitution!) Baldwin is. But I'm too upset over Dr. Paul's endorsement to do it right now.

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hahaha, Barr isn't a Libertarian either!

Voted for the Patriot Act

Voted against gay rights

voted against legalization of drugs...

sorry... I couldn't resist.... I'm sure Barr's conversion is legitimate....

Actually what you just said in precise terms is true: "Chuck Baldwin is not a Libertarian". Neither is Ron Paul. They are both 'libertarians', not "Libertarians".

At this writing the small "l" libertarians seem to have greater understanding of the philosophy than the two official LP candidates!

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