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"Faithless Electors"----CAN WE CREATE HISTORY THE WAY WE WANT IT...STILL??? PLEASE READ.....

"Faithless Electors"

"Faithless Electors" are members of the Electoral College who, for whatever reason, do not vote for their party's designated candidate.

Since the founding of the Electoral College, there have been 156 faithless Electors. 71 of these votes were changed because the original candidate died before the day on which the Electoral College cast their votes. Three of the votes were not cast at all as three Electors chose to abstain from casting their Electoral vote for any candidate. The other 82 Electoral votes were changed on the personal initiative of the Elector.

Sometimes Electors change their votes in large groups, such as when 23 Virginia Electors acted together in 1836. Many times, however, these Electors stood alone in their decision. As of the 2000 election, no Elector has changed the outcome of an election by voting against their party’s designated candidate.

Despite these 156 faithless votes, and a Supreme Court ruling allowing states to empower political parties to require formal pledges from Presidential Electors (Ray v Blair, 343 US 214), 21 states still do not require their members of the Electoral College to vote for their party's designated candidate.

The 24 states that do have requirements issue a small variety of rarely enforced punishments for faithless Electors, including fines and misdemeanors.

The names, dates, and stories of these 156 votes are listed below:

click link to read each story VERY COMPELLING.... http://www.fairvote.org/e...

CAN WE STILL ALTER THE OUTCOME FOR A HISTORIC MOMENT FOR RON PAUL?? ....most will think No..BUT SOME OF YOU HAVE VISION ENOUGH TO THINK...JUST MAYBE......

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First of all...

The end does not justify the means. What you were suggesting was a coup. And just because our opponents will stoop to any means necessary does not mean that we should. What if last time, Bush was voted out by everyone and the electoral college still voted for him? Would you still be as happy at the idea?

Second, do you have the documentation on the over 3k dollars you took from Ron Paul supporters to supposedly give to Ron Paul delegates? Do you even have the NAME of a single delegate that you gave so much as a free lunch to? You promised receipts... and then you refuse to respond to any of the questions...

Considering the controversy stirred up by Berg...

We can always hope

Libera me, let the truth break, what my fears make--Leslie Phillips

if the supreme court does their job...we will have on opp..to

find out....

Wouldn't that be great

If our electors elected somebody besides McCain and Obama, together they probably spent close to a Billion dollars. It would be so great to have someone else elected by the electoral college.

Bump.

It´s at least a matter of fact that there ARE these electors, that´s for sure...

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WANT TO SEE WHO IN OUR HISTORY HAS REBELLED AS AN

ELECTOR??
The names, dates, and stories of these 156 votes are listed below:

here is the link to read each story.... for each person
http://www.fairvote.org/e...

2000 - Barbara Lett-Simmons (Democrat, District of Columbia)

1988 - Margaret Leach (Democrat, West Virginia)

1976 - Mike Padden (Republican, Washington)

1972 - Roger L. MacBride (Republican, Virginia)

1968 - Dr. Lloyd W. Bailey (Republican, North Carolina)

1960 - Henry D. Irwin (Republican, Oklahoma)

1956 - W.F. Turner (Democrat, Alabama)

1948 - Preston Parks (Democrat, Tennessee)

1912 - Eight Republican Electors

1896 - Four Democratic Electors

1872 - Sixty-Three Democratic Electors

1836 - Twenty-Three Democratic Electors (Virginia)

1832 - Thirty-Two Democratic Electors (PA, MD)

1828 - Seven Democratic Electors (Georgia)

1820 - William Plummer, Sr. (Democratic-Republican, NH)

1812 - Three Federalist Electors

1808 - Six Democratic-Republican Electors

1796 - Samuel Miles (Federalist, Pennsylvania)

http://www.fairvote.org/e...

Electors are plants by the two major parties

You'd have to infiltrate the party, gain trust over years, and hope you get tapped.

And you won't get the position if you don't pledge to vote for the party's candidate.

And if you pledge and then don't vote that way, they'll sue you. Heck, not only will they sue you, they'll make you life and all your family's life a living hell.

I'm not saying this is impossible. I just want people to stop thinking that they can work within the system to change the system. The system was designed as a front line to stop people like us. If we start using the system against itself, they'll escalate to the second line of defense (harassment).

Case in point, the black capped GOP thugs illegally searching Ron Paul delegates at the RNC. Also, they cut microphones and straight up lied to prevent Ron Paul votes from being announced/counted.

The good news is that it can be done...I know that because it has been done to the Republican party fairly recently. These neo-cons came from the Dem party. Also, the Dem party was taken over before the Pub party was taken over.

So it can be done. But we need alot more than donations, we need muscle: lawyers, bodyguards, etc.

Could

all third parties sign an affidavit that upon completion of the election, completion of the popular vote count, all of their individual votes will go to the third party front runner in their state to secure as many electoral votes as possible for a third party. For some unknown reason, there are many people running, some even only in their own state. They have an agenda that I cannot relate to, but whatever it is, if after receiving their votes in their state each and everyone of them had signed an affidavit before the election that all of their individual votes were to be assigned to the frontrunner of any party other than the democrats or republicans, would that be legal? Before we can accomplish anything, we have to get our government out of the hands of the establishment.

No.

This is not possible.

Electors are the most faithful of the party faithful

This was my "plan Z" all along, try to win over the electors if all else failed. At the State Convention, I watched who was chosen, and scrapped that plan. My state will go GOP, and those electors will cast their vote for McCain.
I can hold out hope for some unforeseen miracle, but the election process is corrupt and there will be no restoring our Constitution at the ballot box. The NWO did not allow Ron Paul into the discussion, they will not suddenly relent and let him on the ballot now. Especially now, that he might win.
PLEASE accept who is in control. It is not accepting defeat, it is accepting the facts on the ground and coming up with a new strategy. You have wonderful ideas and boundless energy, point them in a direction where they may succeed!
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That is where we are turning our energy, we are NOT giving up, but we ARE going to stop expecting Ron Paul to fix this for us - and we are taking decisive action to liberate ourselves.

wow.. I just had to bump this..

with the economy coming unglued.. who knows what the elecotors will do... they just might step in to save out nation.. if we could just figure out who they are.....

Remember the Saxo Bank prediction for 2008?

They predicted that the U.S. economy would tank before the election, and that Ron Paul would be elected president!

Right now they are one out of two, but who knows what could happen...

Just call me an eternal optimist!

"and that Ron Paul would be

"and that Ron Paul would be elected president"

Did they predict when Ron Paul would be elected president? I wonder if their prediction would be right if RP is elected in 2012...

I'd much rather Dr. Paul be elected in 2008, though.

first off I must say... as it is not said enough...

eternal optimists.. will always win in the end....

and second.. AS LONG AS WE THE PEOPLE DO NOT GIVE UP.... UNTIL THE FAT LADY SINGS... ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE!!!

ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

my sentiments exactly!

We know the pressure, we saw what happened to the delgates at the convention, but looking at that list of dissenting electors, they are not just from the far away past but recent elections as well. I am encouraged by that. Thank you for these posts.

Well Yeah!

That's why I've been hammering away a this issue for months.

Tie up the Electoral College, and in order to keep the House from giving the Election to Barry O, log roll Republican, Libertarian, Constitution, Naderite, and/or Green Electors into supporting a Paul/Palin ticket (for example.)

To wit:

If you live in Oklahoma, you have no choice. Write-in Ron Paul.

If you live in Montana or Louisiana, rejoice! You get to vote for Ron Paul!

If you live in New Hampshire, please vote for George Phillies (the other Libertarian).

If you live in Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, Colorado, The Dakotas, Delaware, Florida, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Nebraska, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Ohio, Oregon, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, Wisconsin, or Wyoming, please vote for Chuck Baldwin.

If you live in Arizona, California, The District of Columbia, or Maine, you have my condolences. You may as well vote for Cynthia McKinney or Bob Barr.

If you live in Connecticut, Georgia, Indiana, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, or Texas, you have my deepest condolences. You’re stuck with Ralph Nader or Bob Barr. Sorry.

If you can’t abide my recommendations, then, your State permitting, you could write in Ron Paul, your mom, your dog, or even Bob Barr.

But never Never NEVER vote for McBama!

This decision is rather painful for me, as it will be the first Presidential election for me (since 1976) in which I will not be voting for the Libertarian. It looks as though the Barr Campaign has burned that bridge, and it likely won’t be rebuilt until at least 2010. But still I reach out, optimistic sentimental sot that I am, and hope Barr does well in Georgia.

Addendum from Tannim on 9/21:

For the Boston Tea Party, Colorado, Florida, and Tennessee: Charles Jay.
LP candidates nationwide at http://libertarianpartyca...

The Freedom Formula: Au + Ag + Cu + Pb

In GA,

Barr is the only third party candidate on the ballot, unfortunately. I'm writing in Chuck Baldwin!

In CA we can write in Chuck

In CA we can write in Chuck Baldwin. Please edit your post.

I agree.. but most people dont seem to get it...

you wonder why.....

You'd have a better chance

You'd have a better chance of time traveling and getting Ron elected in 1988.

i know you aren't ready for this but

time travel has been achieved.

~peace

you know...I also know that , but I figured most would not even

entertain that Idea....so I do not put it out there....Nice to know someone else knows of this as well

please elaborate on the time travel thing

or give me a link...I'm always willing to investigate.

just to cover my bases Im going to keep my eyes open for people

that may be from the future or the past. If time travel is EVER possible in all of eternity- then we should see something today ,,,right?

Live Free or Diebold

WOW.. I would have to do some digging...

but to give a small recap about that...the gov. did some experiments and has successfully TT into a future with Marines and Military ....some of them woke up from their "mental blocks " and remembered the whole thing.. I think a book was written, or and interview given to the guy....

I f I have time I will look for the info..and post a link..

---also
The Philadelphia Experiment (was a movie) was a real event... over 6000 witnesses saw the ship disappear in the Philadelphia harbor --it then traveled in time to the 1980's--see the movie as it is actually pretty accurate on this! .. one of the scientists (who was featured in the movie) was interviewed several times on the radio... I was able to call in and talk to him many years back when they were doing Q/A over the air..

tsk tsk ...you dont have my resources...with careful planning

and some serious commitment...anything is possible..

I like the way you think

I like the way you think Jdayh......any ideas on what we can do to make this happen?
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billy jack...

thanks for that... email me at contact..and we will chat... I must say I do understand most peoples reason for ignoring the possibilities of an elector coup... but.... after tremendous research and dozens of hours of pursuing the possibilities... it MAY BE POSSIBLE!!! :))

Good Question

Good question jdayh
please keep us up to date on what you find. I have always believed that this is a crazy time and the way things are unravelling now, and confusion everywhere about everything........I believe anything is possible.

I believe in miracles!

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