
This may just be the end of Bush and Cheney finally!
Submitted by sentinel on Tue, 09/16/2008 - 11:56
This is easily the best news I have read in eight years !
Cheney in the Caucasus
By MIKE WHITNEY
For the past week, Dick Cheney has been traveling through the Caucasus trying to drum up support for punitive action against Russia for its role in the recent fighting in South Ossetia. The Vice President vowed that the Moscow's action "will not go unanswered". Cheney is determined to establish the United States as the regional "cop on the beat", taking charge of all security operations through its cat's paw, Nato. Neither the Kremlin nor the EU are paying much attention to Cheney's fulminations. The negotiations for the security arrangements and the withdrawal of Russian troops are being conducted without US involvement.
On September 9, under the revolving leadership of French President Nicolas Sarkozy, the EU hammered out a deal with Russian President Dmitri Medvedev to replace Russian soldiers in South Ossetia with 200 EU observers who are scheduled to arrive by October 1. In exchange, Georgia agreed to Russia's demands not to use force against the two breakaway republics, Abkahzia and South Ossetia. Medvedev's unilateral announcement that Russia would recognize both republics as "independent", did not derail the EU peace process. Rather, both sides focused on the withdrawal of Russia troops and seem reasonably satisfied with the 6-point agreement.
Russia has not only scored an important diplomatic victory; it has driven a wedge between Europe and the United States. The reckless behavior of Georgia's President Mikhail Saakashvili has given the Bush administration a black eye and put Nato membership out of reach for the foreseeable future. Saakashvili invaded South Ossetia last month; destroyed much of the capital, Tskhinvali, and killed an estimated 1,500 civilians before his troops were routed by the Russian army. Among the dead were Russian citizens and peacekeepers. Moscow has cut off all relations with Tblisi and President Medvedev has called Saakashvili a "political corpse". The Kremlin now regards its neighbor to the south as an enemy.
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Imagine that!
Wow, the world *is* capable of solving it's problems without us! Who would have thunk?
EU Observers *groan*
I'm not sure how it is a good thing that 200 EU observers were sent in. The idea of the EU is as bankrupt as the idea of the UN, NATO, WTO, etc... These are all one-world government organizations (i.e. the New World Order plan).
Register as Republican and Vote for Ron Paul
Good work Sentinel
Some folks just don't get it. I agree that religion is a weapon wielded by the ruling elite for the past several thousand years. Divide and Conquer.
Actually from all the extensive research I have done over the past many years and my intuition I believe that the ruling pricks are the very same bloodlines from the days of Babylon. I won't go as far as David Icke in saying they are reptilians but I will go so far as to say that perhaps they are descendants of the Annunaki. I know that may sound wild and crazy but there is quite a bit of evidence that points to that as a possibility.
Anyway, keep up the good fight.
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"Don't make me come down there!" - GOD
Exactly! Things like
Exactly! Things like religion, race, ideology, etc. are tools used to divide us when we reach common ground. For example, voting or not voting for Obama. Some people think that any person that doesn't vote for Obama is a racist, when it can be that somebody doesn't vote for Obama not because of race, but because of principles.
religion
only only divides us when people use them to divide us. And that is exactly what sentinal is doing here, so again, if that's the good fight I would hate to see the bad fight.
The difference is
you can have a belief without attempting to kill a person's faith. I'm all about living how you want to live, but to call people idiots and morons because they believe in God, isn't exactly within the revolutions message.
So if that is a good fight he's putting up, I'd hate to see the bad fight.
I have faith
But my faith is in tangible things, You simply cannot put your faith in something just becasue you are told that something is true without any sort of physical proof, When I use the words Idiotic or Moronic they do simply apply in the literal sense. They may be harsh but they do apply to someone who simply takes the word of another without tangible proof.
Religion was the earliest form of propaganda and still exists today. You are told what to believe and to gain social acceptance ( the key to brainwashing ) you accept this . I've read two bibles the new testiment and the king james version just so that I could try to understand things. and almopst every story that I could find is fear based. It's a terrorist manual of sorts. Don't do this or go to hell do this and go to heaven ?
It's just brainwashing at it's finest.
I have personally ( In business ) never met a fanatical christian that wasn't a liar. The born again types are the worst. They cheat and steal also and I know quite a few. None of them are any good.
I live by a very high standard of decency and by my own accord not because some ethereal persecution I'm afraid of. I just know that by not cheating people I feel better about my dealings.
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Sometimes there is no black and white
The United States, Georgia, Russia and especially France are all rule by corrupt leaders and none of them have the people in mind when they fight each other for more political power.
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Obama lowers himself and attacks McCain's war injuries
http://will86aber.wordpress.com/2008/09/13/obama-lowers-hims...
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http://will86aber.wordpress.com/2009/11/04/growing-the-econo...
Politicians today aim to grow our economy by burning our cities to the ground, instead they should take a lesson in economic theory.
doesnt beleive
The reputation of GOD has been around quite a bit longer than you slander. AND I do not need to prove sh-t. SINCE you know all you proveit.
Thou shalt not steal, gov't hates the competition
yes explain that will you
who was there to "document" any of it ? Morons ? look back only 2 hundred years and realize that only 20 percent of the population were literate. now go back 2000 years and tell me who it was that controlled the thinking of the population ? Religion is a farce it always has been. It's just the ultimate con. There is no God for you !!!!!!! If there was think about it ? would you be in this situation? More people have died in wars due to religion than any other cause because they are friggen brain washed. get a clue.
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Umm,
Umm, actually....
Governments are responsible for more killing in the 20th century alone than probably all religions over all of human history. Look at Mao, Stalin, Hitler, etc...atheism is the idol and god of communism.
It is largely because the founders understood the nature of man as explained by God's word that they limited government as they did, and put the checks and balances there.
Heres All The Numbers About War Genocide Classicide ect
and how governments kill their own people.
http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkill
Really good site I found it a couple of years ago.
Delegates Tried To Revolt For Freedom !!!
Revolt For Freedom !!!
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Umm
More Americans were literate in Massachusetts in the first half of America's history than the second half.
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Obama lowers himself and attacks McCain's war injuries
http://will86aber.wordpress.com/2008/09/13/obama-lowers-hims...
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http://will86aber.wordpress.com/2009/11/04/growing-the-econo...
Politicians today aim to grow our economy by burning our cities to the ground, instead they should take a lesson in economic theory.
Something stinks, and it smells like an asshole?
Fools like you are a dime a dozen. You wouldn't know faith if it bit you in the ass, and you obviously haven't been called to hear the message. But that is ok, perhaps some day you will spend your time doing something more than trying to tempt or kill a persons faith. What exactly would you get out of it if perhaps someone did turn from God because of your rantings? Would that make your day? Luckily the rantings of a lunatic, who obviously isn't as smart as he thinks, doesn't really sit well nor is it accepted by those of faith. I pity the life you had to go through in order to become the complete asshole you are today.
By the way. The great thing about this argument is...what happens when each of us is wrong?
If I'm wrong, I led a good life based on peace, love of my fellow mankind, fairness, honesty, and happiness.
If your right, you could possibly have these same things, but judging from your words, like I said, you will die a complete asshole.
If I'm right. I will one day see my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, and I will spend eternity praising the God that made all things possible, and through Him all things are possible.
If your wrong. You still die an asshole, and you spend eternity with the Bush family, Cheney, and all the other NWO bastards and Bankers that we are fighting.
Better not wear your Ron Paul buttons, because they are going to be pissed!
Peace be with you.
Eternal praise?
Sounds a lot like North Korea. But as Christopher Hitchens says, at least in North Korea you can die and escape it.
If your idea of heaven is telling god how great he is for all eternity, no thanks. Christianity and freedom are mutually exclusive. You can't believe in a galactic dictator who can convict you of thought crimes and punish you for eternity for not following his rules and claim to be a freedom loving person. And don't give me that line about free will either. If I tell you to worship me forever, or be painfully tortured for all eternity, that's not much of a choice is it?
Im with you on this one, Dale
but maybe with a drop less bile...
Im not a churched man, but I wont hold for blaming any God for man's errors. There are many perspectives on the value of religions (of which there have been literally thousands over time) in this world...but there can be no question that man is inherently religious and attacking that fact of life can be...unproductive and inflammatory.
I think the Democrats learned that trying to push religion out of the public square was a big mistake. Lets not develop any bad habits here. We may not be able to put new wine in old sacks, but lets not act like we can store it in our bare hands.
Thank you
Less bile isn't something I can muster when someone is blatantly attacking people simply for having faith in God.
It's one thing to have a difference in opinion, or just to believe differently, it's another to call people idiots and morons because they don't believe the way you do.
I just don't get it. I don't go around calling athiest names just because they believe differently, but I will defend my brothers and sisters of all faiths against numbnuts like these.
I couldn't even be bothered to read that past the insanity
Wow you believe in made up shit ? and manage to exist in regular society , no wonder America is being destroyed ? people believe silly crap. Every time to say the word God to me you are telling me that you believ in something that you have been told to believe. think about it get an eduactaion in reality and then get back to me. But "DO NOT" Try to convert me with your bullshit I am way too smart for that.
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STUPID
Some people have a belief in God then stems from their life experiences, NOT FEAR BASED indoctrination. As Dale has said, obviously you have not been blessed with such experiences (or more likely, you weren't acknowledging and paying attention to them). Sorry to hear that.
believe me my friend
If you ever get "converted" it will be because God wanted you to get the message. I myself would simply shake the dust off my feet and leave you to your ways.
I learned that in Matthew chapter ten...
11"Whatever town or village you enter, search for some worthy person there and stay at his house until you leave. 12As you enter the home, give it your greeting. 13If the home is deserving, let your peace rest on it; if it is not, let your peace return to you. 14If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, shake the dust off your feet when you leave that home or town. 15I tell you the truth, it will be more bearable for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for that town."
Your obviously called to be someone filled with hate, and I'll leave you to your job.
can you say
twilight zone ? and they say that people who question 911 are nuts ?
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Hey..
didn't I dust off my feet at your doorstep? Why are you still talking. We spoke, your ignorant, hateful, and vile. I could care less.
as Fez would say... Good day!
I heard something
today that they passed a bill or something that the VP will get 6 months of CIA protection after he leaves office. LOL I think he will need it. Peace
EU is?
True ; the EU is not your friend. They hold your mtg.
say
Thou shalt not steal, gov't hates the competition
Bush & Cheney...Iron Maiden has a message for you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyfIQ7s14wc
Up the Iron's.
Well I guess this is a Christian and Atheist bashing thread, Why Maiden did you come here.WHY?
unilateral dipl.
Just one thing ,sentinal, Love it or leave it or you're getting it weather you like it or not , has been around my GOP local long before BUSH . You need to go back to the 60's. The Russian handling of this is good in the short term. It won't last.
say
Thou shalt not steal, gov't hates the competition
Rubber room fenatic like conspiracy theory
sentinal ;They have been saying this from BC time. GET you head on straight for a change.
say
Thou shalt not steal, gov't hates the competition
I don't believe in god man
It is time for the children of the world to put away false prophets. Santa clause doesn't exist, the easter bunny doesn't exist, and God is nothing more than a fable designed to make you more stupid. When you can explain to me how it's remotely possible, the existance of a God then i will give you some credibility until then you are a moron to me.
Prove it first then explain how you have become what you are. When you die you become plant food and the only thing you leave behind is your children. Stop thinking that you are above reality.
Heaven is your false illusion.
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Here's my two cents ...
If there is no God, then we are just nothings, now in existence, and passing on to nothing. Can we agree on that?
If so -- if there is no God -- then there is no immutable (unchangeable) moral law, then no one can fault the New World Order elites. They certainly don't believe in God. They do believe in survival of the fittest. And they TRULY BELIEVE THEY ARE THE FITTEST. They believe that, since they are the fittest, they should make the rules which we must abide by. They believe that we are inferior, and only useful to them as slaves, that most of us would be better off as plant food, since, in that condition, we could no longer threaten their supremacy. The NWO actually plans to eliminate 80% of the world's population through wars, starvation, pharmaceuticals, cancer, etc., etc.
So, what the heck are you fighting for??? Do you happen to think you're someone special??? Do you believe in justice ??? In fair play??? Where did you get these silly notions from if there is no purpose to life???
Remember, the Ten Commandments don't exist in your realm ... so cheating, stealing, lying, murdering are all options the "fittest" can use against their defective lessers.
You may not realize this, but you were taught (actually programmed) in public schools through false science and false history and sex ed to reject God. Happy for you, God has not YET rejected you.
A study of the theory of evolution would be a good place for you to do a reality check because there are a great many intelligent but readable books showing up its inconsistencies. During Darwin's time, he could muse about the "simple" cell mutating into something new. Today, (but for the fact that evolution is sacrosanct amongst athiests) he would be laughed to scorn because biologists now know that there is nothing "simple" about a single "simple" cell. Each and every cell in your body contains a complete blueprint of you. It also contains an energy factory, a waste facility, a transportation system to move things into and out of the cell, a communications system, par excellence, allowing it to exchange information with other systems throughout the body, besides the specialized equipment needed to do its specific job (heart, liver, kidney, skin, etc.) ... Darwin's "simple" cell, in fact, contains an infrastructure similar to the infrastructure of a busy city. Now, if you'd like to believe that something as complex as a city can pop into existence solely by chance, then, I happen to have a bridge I'd like to sell you.
Finally, religions sometimes do cause wars because religious beliefs run very deep. They are the very convictions human beings will die for. That said, God has only one religion. In past times, Jews were God's chosen people until they rejected their promised savior, Jesus Christ. Since the death of Jesus Christ, the Roman Catholic Church is God's Church. The thousands of other religions are the constructs of men ... their historical beginnings are on record. I'm not saying that the Catholic Church never shares blame for wars ... God is not stupid but, alas, men often are.
However, these religious wars pale in comparison to the mega wars fought during the bloody 20th century, when atheistic, despotic governments (our own included) killed more people than all other wars put together. Hundreds of millions of people suffered and died because of a few men's greed and desire for power.
No reason for name calling
I think this argument is pretty pointless. I feel the world would be very bleak without a god. Our actions would be for all practical purposes narrowed down to biological reactions and we would never really have “choice” in the world. In my view God is a necessity to empower man with the ability to have a conscience and make decisions and not just follow preset physical laws. If people do just follow preset physical laws there is no justification for responsibility, liability, or morality for anyone’s actions.
Second asking someone to explain god is like asking someone to explain why there is existence in the first place. I’m not talking about describing the physical properties in the universe but explaining why anything is there at all? You have no way to possibly do that. Yet you believe the universe is real and we exists I presume.
The real assumption that you are trying to push is that people who believe in God are more likely to trust and be influenced by immoral people. I do not know how anyone would go about proving something like this. I don’t believe there are really recorded demographics available of people who say they are believers in a population and also follow immoral people compared to people who say there is no god and follow immoral people. Maybe you should start some studies then get back to us.
I do think doctrine in any institution that discourages descent can lead to situations where evil can influence masses but look at current state of the government this can happen in any institution.
Something stinks, and it smells like an asshole?
Fools like you are a dime a dozen. You wouldn't know faith if it bit you in the ass, and you obviously haven't been called to hear the message. But that is ok, perhaps some day you will spend your time doing something more than trying to tempt or kill a persons faith. What exactly would you get out of it if perhaps someone did turn from God because of your rantings? Would that make your day? Luckily the rantings of a lunatic, who obviously isn't as smart as he thinks, doesn't really sit well nor is it accepted by those of faith. I pity the life you had to go through in order to become the complete asshole you are today.
By the way. The great thing about this argument is...what happens when each of us is wrong?
If I'm wrong, I led a good life based on peace, love of my fellow mankind, fairness, honesty, and happiness.
If your right, you could possibly have these same things, but judging from your words, like I said, you will die a complete asshole.
If I'm right. I will one day see my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, and I will spend eternity praising the God that made all things possible, and through Him all things are possible.
If your wrong. You still die an asshole, and you spend eternity with the Bush family, Cheney, and all the other NWO bastards and Bankers that we are fighting.
Better not wear your Ron Paul buttons, because they are going to be pissed!
Peace be with you.
You seem very angry!
There is no need for proof of God's existence!
For many of us it is quite self-evident when you look around and see the beauty of creation all around us of the animate and inanimate lifeforms, despite all the suffering and misery!
Certainly, if you require proof, you will never, ever get it from another. It has to come from your own self awareness or you are quite lost.
http://articlesoffreedom.us/Coalition.aspx
Its Up To Us - Articles of Freedom - New Website! Thread:
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/123543#comment-1330135
For Deeper Understanding here is what a delegate wrote:
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/123897
there is a need for proof of everything
If you can't prove something it does not exist. period. otherwise you are living a dream , naive , silly, idealistic.
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Can you prove that you
Can you prove that you exist? Can you prove "you"? Can you prove the universe exists?
(I refuse to get drawn into religion arguments; I am not making a point in favor or against. I just think that statement of yours is silly.)
sorry you feel that way
Life is tough and I couldnt imagine living my life without god. I dont like to think of my dead grandson as plant food- Reality is that I am not stupid and I am a special person, even if you dont think so. Yes there is a Santa and an Easter Bunnny even a tooth fairy. God is love
Just want to know why god is prejudiced
in handing out miracles. He never heals an amputee.
when you wrote this did you really believe it ?
:P
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yes
and still do-How about you do your thing and ill do mine?
HE (God) believes in you...
when you see Israel survive what is about to take place...it will be a sign for you look very hard at....
2Chronicles 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
to bad you don't believe in
to bad you don't believe in God.. your missing history that was fortold in the bible.. the problem is your to proud, and ignorant to look for the truth! go read ezekiel 38 and 39.... then get back to me!
I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain
"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson
I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain
sorry if i offended anyone
but there is no god for me spank you very much.
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Your non belief offends no one
Your complete idiotic ways of talking to those that have a faith is the problem. For someone to be called an idiot, or a moron because he or she believes in God is completely uncalled for. You my friend are the only ignorant person here. Faith, have it or don't have it, but there's no need to spew your filth towards those who do have it.
Want to be angry, be angry at yourself for not having the balls to trust in something you can't see.
You are asking me to believe in something noone can see ?
Now doesn't that just seem absolutely insane to you ? and you add to it that I don't have the balls to do this insane thing ?
wow.
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You are delusional
I am not asking you to believe anything. I am stating that you shouldn't go around calling people names for having a faith in God. Big difference, and as I said before you are a vile, hateful, angry little ant. I don't care for your personally, but that is ok. Fortunately for you, God does care, and hopefully some day He will see you as fit for the message. Until then, enjoy your existence.
You are
a sad sad little person.
too funny
because I live in the physical world and don't believe in childish phantoms and fairy tales I'm the sad one ?
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Yep
quite simple.
coming events continued
This article almost confirms my comments that America will become isolated as the only alternative to world peace. Though this is good in the short term ,RUSSIA , CHINA & the ARAB world, will converge to make war on Israel' for what ever reason I don't know . This act makes no common sense at all, but will come about. The simple fact that those who would rule JERUSALEM could, in effect foil the GOD (I AM)'s plan to establish JERUSALEM as the center of World rule . A false messiah will bring this about before the true messiah returns as; KING of KINGS to establish his rule forever. The World will yell in jubalee , "FINALLY, PEACE ,PEACE"., but then from the heavens will be the shout of an archangel bringing with it sudden destruction to this false ruler,SATAN . EW-EW, I'll be hated for that one. SORRY. I will still love you'al.
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Thou shalt not steal, gov't hates the competition
I agree...
Third temple may be built, but it will house the False God, and will be destroyed.
Fourth temple is where it's at. :O)
the only alternative to world peace ???
are you completely mental ? have you been eating paint chips again ? Your whole post just screams "Rubber Room".
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