The Anti-Masonic Party
Any political party whch might threaten the establishment has historically been infiltrated and destroyed. I hope some of you find the following very interesting. Back in the early 1800's there was an actual political party called "THE ANTI-MASONIC PARTY". Great name. It was actually the first "3rd party" in the US. Yep, back when we were more spiritually aware, people were rightfully concerned about the strange activities of the Masons and did not like the fact that they held so many high positions of power in the gov't, courts etc. even though they only made up a small percentage of the population. PA Rep. Thaddeus Stevens was in this party for awhile before it morphed into the Whig Party.
William Morgan wrote a book about the Masons after he quit and they took him up to Niagara and killed him. This caused a huge uproar, started the anti-masonic movement and people were quitting Masonry in droves. Uncoincidentally, Mormonism started around this same time. Of course, they were eventually infiltrated and neutralized when a Mason became head of the party. The
platform...just...changed.
Check it out:
We had an Anti-Masonic governor
http://www.phmc.state.pa....
Personally, I don't think anyone who has taken a bloody oath of allegiance to some other group should be allowed to hold ANY public office what-so-ever. This goes a long way to explain why so many of them do not honor their oath to uphold the Constitution once they get in office and is a big part of the problem we are facing today. They already took a binding oath of allegiance to something else. So ask your Rep./Senator/Congressman/Judge: Have you ever taken an oath for the purpose of entering a Masonic organization?
"If good government is to be restored all Masons must be purged from public office". - Rayback
"When psychopaths are involved, conspiracy is no longer just within the realm of possiblity, it becomes PROBABLE.
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If you want to truly
If you want to truly understand how the Masons fit into the picture this is a good short book to read http://messianismequalsty...
It was highly praised by Michael Collins Piper on his radio show. There isn't a more concise history available on how freemasonry fits into communism.
Wow
This looks really good. Thanks for the addition!
No surprise you'd like it
Of course you'd like a book titled
"The Conquest of the Enlightenment and the West by the Illuminati Communist Vampires" Published by The Garlic Press
Maybe its vampires that are behind all of the world's problems. Better yet, COMMUNIST VAMPIRES! That's even scarier!
Of course I'm sure you oppose the Vampire Rights Amendment http://americanvampirelea...
I said it "looks" good
After glancing at it the first time. I did peruse a little further last night, and although he makes some good points, I do not agree with everything he says.
Vampire Rights Amendment ?? I don't think that website is for real.
I like that party from 1860,
I like that party from 1860, the Constitutional Union.
Never heard of it
Sounds like they formed due to the brewing Civil War.
People need to think about what they are sugesting..
when they call for a law against previous oaths.
If I get married I take an oath.
Many religious leaders take an oath.
What if we had a private organization dedicated to the protection of liberty, which wanted to have members take an oath?
A law of this nature seems very close to thought crime legislation - and in my opinion, should be avoided.
I think that this is an issue where Dr. Paul is right again. Our mission ought to be to change the minds of people through leading by example and setting a better standard, as opposed to protecting the public from free association outside of government.
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How about an oath that
How about an oath that involved being blindfolded, a rope put around your neck and a dagger to your chest? And then told that if you break the "oath" you'll have your tong cut out? Sound nice? That's what Masons have to pledge to just in the first degree, it's not an "oath" but a "blood oath" - it's totally different and frankly criminal in my opinion.
Nah
all that stuff is just "symbolic"..just ask OFallon.
Finally you get something right.
They are symbolic. And there is no dagger.
Marriage Oath?
Not really.
Wedding "vows" are inappropriately named because many times they are not vows at all. The vows often simply consist of multiple questions that require a simple ‘yes’ answer (pity the groom who ever says ‘no’). This type of formality, where the questions outline the terms of the agreement, is quite an appropriate template for a simple contract between believers.
For example, "Do you take this woman to be your lawfully wedded wife, to love and to hold, in sickness and in health, from now until death?" This is not "technically" a vow or an oath. The principal ingredient missing is the extra affirmation (the swearing) beyond the simple ‘yes’.
To make the question a bonafide vow or an oath would require that the groom answer with "Yes, I swear that I will…" This type of oath is strictly forbidden by Jesus. To simply reply, "Yes, I will" is not the vow or oath that Jesus condemned.
As far as "religious leaders" taking an oath, you'll have to be more specific than that. I don't know of any in Christianity. Perhaps you consider those Masonic "Grand Worshipful Masters" to be religious leaders.
You can't serve two masters
"Personally, I don't think anyone who has taken a bloody oath of allegiance to some other group should be allowed to hold ANY public office what-so-ever. This goes a long way to explain why so many of them do not honor their oath to uphold the Constitution once they get in office and is a big part of the problem we are facing today."
"No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon." Luke 16:13
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Can this not also apply to elected leaders?
If they serve the Lord with all their hearts and minds, how can they serve another master, their constituents, to whom they have taken an oath, sworn upon the Bible, no less?
Can you hold two jobs, working for two different bosses?
So what is a master, exactly, I guess, is the question?
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If you only knew...
how much masons agree with your quote from Luke.
Sure
but they serve Mammon.
Once again you don't know what you are talking about
Where do you come up with this garbage? I do not serve Mammon. In fact, no where is that word found in anything masonic.
No, it's in the Bible
Webster's dictionary defines 'Mammon' as: 1) the false god of riches and avarice. 2) riches regarded as an object of worship and greedy pursuit; wealth as an evil, more or less personified.[1] Winston defines it to mean: 1) wealth, worldly gain; 2) greed for riches; cupidity.[2] Oxford defines: god of wealth, regarded as evil or immoral; 'those who worship mammon' = greedy people who value money too highly"
Now, who has all the money and connections?
Bankers
Bankers
And most
of the big ones (international) are members of secret societies. Round and round we go in a circle.
And white men
Almost all of them are white men. More of them are white men than masons. Wouldn't it make more sense to start an anti-whiteman movement?
Yes most of the Masons are white
in our society.
We live in the West so there is more information available to us about the history of western secret societies. There are also the Prince Hall Masons, which are the black Masons. The Chinese have the Triads (you'll never guess what their symbol looks like). The Zionists are basically the Jewish Masons. The Muslims have the Assasins, Ismailis, Sufis. Every culture in the world has their secret societies - and yeah, I'd say they're mostly related.
"The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it." - JFK
Albert Pike...
amitted in his book Morals and Dogma of Free Masonry that the highest levels of the order openly worship "the light bringer" Lucifer. To them, they believe that what most of us believe is "God" to them (a mason) is the devil. And what most of us believe is the devil aka- satan...to a mason that is god. Masons believe since God said don't eat from the tree of knowledge..that that was really the devil, and the serpent was good because he wanted Adam and Eve to be knowledgable. To masons the roles of God and Satan are reversed. Most Masons are what you would call "porch masons" because they arn't in the know of what the highest levels of the order really believe. It's not until you hit the 32 degree until you realize its about worshipping the devil,..but you see, to them its there god. I suggest anyone doubting any of this...seriously, go look into it. Go buy a Masonic book off ebay. My dad has one and there is some really crazy wack shit in there. They believe in some creature called "Jahbulon" no joke go look that up right now. Yes, the founding fathers were free masons,...free masonry was hijacked and turned into what it is today.
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Good post
You're right on. I have asked several of the pro-Masonic posters here about Baphomet and Ja-Bul-On, and none of them have answered me.
Neither one of you know what you are talking about
You repeat ridiculous claims about things that you know nothing about. I have pointed to places that tell the truth about the misinformation., but obviously reading the truth is not as exiting to you as perpetuating false rumors.
shutdownthefed, your post is filled with more wildly untrue statements than are worth addressing. Neither you nor ArmorOfChrist777 have any first hand knowledge of what you are talking about. You just love to repeat long disproven gossip.
Let me set some things straight. I KNOW what I am talking about.
I am a Master Mason
I am a 32nd Degree in the Scottish Rite
I am a Shriner
I am not a member of the York Rite, although I may join at some time in the future.
I am not a member of any other appellate organization.
Let me make this clear. We do NOT worship Lucifer. We do NOT think the role of Satan and God are reversed. We do NOT not worship the devil.
I'm not going to rewrite explanations that already exist. So, to address your claims, please read the following. If you really want to know the truth about what you claim, read it all.
http://www.srmason-sj.org...
On Baphomet: "Every Mason will know, and those outside the Fraternity must be told, that Baphomet is unknown to Masonry". http://web.mit.edu/dryfoo...
On Jabulon: http://www.srmason-sj.org...
ArmorOfChrist777, your comment that no mason should hold public office is misguided to say the least. I will not tell you the oaths that are taken, I keep my word. I will tell you they are not "bloody". I will also tell you that if you did know what they were you'd probably want ALL elected officials to take the same oaths.
To learn about the actual degrees in Scottish Rite and what their principles are http://web.mit.edu/dryfoo...
Masons and members of the Scottish Rite are ardent supporters of liberty, steadfast opponents of tyranny, defenders of truth, and selfless givers of charity. It is the dedication to these ideals that inspire its members to community and public service.
NOT BLOODY???
WTF IS THIS THEN???
- In the First Degree of "Apprentice", he swears, with his hand on the Bible, "I (name), in the presence of Almighty God, most solemnly promise and swear that I will always hail, ever conceal, and never reveal any of the arts, parts of points of the hidden mysteries of Freemasonry... binding myself under the penalty than that of having my throat cut across, my tongue torn out, and my body buried in the rough sands of the see..." (Duncan's Ritual, pp. 34-35).
2- The Second Degree, "Fellow Craft", he swears on the Bible, in the presence of Almighty God, "under the penalty than of having my breast open... and my heart and lungs thrown over my left shoulder... so help me God".
3- The Third Degree, of "Master Mason", he swears "under the penalty than that of having my body severed in two, my bowels taken from thence and burn to ashes... so help me God".
Sounds pretty bloody to me.
You are such a liar (but then again, you ARE obligated to lie about it).
Now you call me a liar
Everything I have ever posted on this is the truth. I have not lied about anything. I am not obligated to lie about anything, in fact the opposite is true. You have continually posted hearsay and misinformation.
Do you understand the difference between an oath and a penalty? Do you understand the significance of symbolism?
When you take an oath, you affirm a commitment. You posted a very small portion of something without the full context of the subject. Do you see that the portion of the oath that you posted, which is misquoted by the way, shows that someone violated their oath in order for you to see it?
I take every oath I take very seriously or I would not take it. I will tell you that the penalty is symbolic. I will not say more than that, because I swore to something very close to what you posted.
I could easily tell you everything I know about masonry. Would I fear those penalties you posted? No, I would not, they are symbolic. But I would no longer have honor. Why would anyone trust my word again?
Once again I'll direct you to an explanation of your claim. http://www.masonicinfo.co...
Why don't you start your own anti mason website and take this off of DP?
Just so everyone can see
the "full context" of the oath. Here is a scanned image from an antique book:
http://www.shadowlitrealm...
You rely a lot on that same Masonic dissembling site to back up your arguments - you all do that. I guess that website contains the "official" stories Masons are supposed to give to the profane "Goyim". Sorry, I'm not buying this "symbolic" argument. The penalty for breaking the oath is quite literal and real. Just ask William Morgan:
http://www.padfield.com/1...
http://www.associatedcont...
Very interesting old book here:
http://www.gospeltruth.ne...
Chapter II. "THE MURDER OF WILLIAM MORGAN, CONFESSED BY THE MAN WHO, WITH HIS OWN HANDS, PUSHED HIM OUT OF THE BOAT INTO NIAGARA RIVER!
R3VOLUTION08 ??
I can agree with almost everything you exposit ,but I never was under any teaching that stressed Lucifer, or SATAN ,as ruling, HELL...CAN you explain where that idea came from ??
weee
If someone started and Anti-Christ Party
If someone started and Anti-Christ Party to prove that the Christians are working to take over and control the polical process would this prove that Christ or Chrsitians are bad?
No
but it sounds like you're admitting Freemasonry is a religion.
Andrew Jackson was a Mason,
Andrew Jackson was a Mason, and he busted the central bank wide open. It couldn't be that bad being a Mason.
Yep,.....
But the order hijacked the free mason's belief doctrine or something.
Being a mason wasn't bad. It is like how the republican party used to be for the good things, the right things, and now it is hijacked by the CFR and the elitist.
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We've already established
over and over again, that not all Masons are evil.
True
But keep in mind that he was probably a member of the "outer club".
So what did the inner club do to him for breaking with
the conspiracy plans?
Was he punished?
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They tried to assassinate him
Both guns misfired. Looks like God was looking out for him on that day.
He was definitely on the side of the Lord
One of my favorite presidents.
But why would God look out for him, if he was part of a Masonic lodge and therefore supporting the grand conspirators?
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Because he wasn't part
of the "inner club" or he wouldn't have been so against a Rothschild-run central bank.
Well there was one attempted
Well there was one attempted assassination. The would be assassin's guns BOTH misfired! Busted!
He probably didn't get hired for many more hits after that
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Rothschild agent
found guilty of insanity, and the court let him off the hook.
Oh finally!
I wondered when you'd finally start slamming the Mormons!
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Not slamming the average Mormon
However, keep in mind the Joseph Smith was a Mason, and Mormon rituals are almost verbatim derived from Masonic rituals.
And what's with the All-Seeing eyeball and upside-down pentagrams on that big temple?
Or maybe the Masons' rituals were derived from ancient temple
rites, which were restored in this time by Joseph Smith (instead of the other way around, as you state).
The Bible (OT) is rich in symbolism. The temple is the same way. We can't help that certain symbols have been adopted by other groups for their own use.
Six-pointed stars represent the actual stars in the heaven. Upside-down five-pointed stars represent morning stars, compared to the "sons of God" in the scriptures. The large upright five-pointed stars may represent the governing power of the priesthood while the small upright five-pointed stars may represent the saving power of the priesthood for those who attach themselves to it.
The All-Seeing Eye atop each of the center towers of the temple is the all-seeing eye of God, which represents God's ability to see all things.
Each of the center towers features a pair of clasped right hands identified as the "right hands of fellowship" cited in Galatians 2:9. In Jeremiah 31:32, the Lord uses the handclasp to denote covenant making—an act at the very heart of temple worship.
See, pretty innocuous it all is, eh?
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It's anything but innocuous Ron.
But keep on trying.
It's amazing the "knowledge" you have about the Masons, considering that you claim to not be a Mason, but you take this information and seem to have come to vastly different conclusions than the majority of researchers.
BTW, those 5 and 6 pointed stars have specific meanings and uses in Kabbalah (like conjuring and controlling demons). The hexagram is one of the Seals of Solomon.
You missed my point
I never claimed to have any knowledge whatsoever about the Masons. I never claimed to say what the symbols mean to the Masons. I have no clue whatsoever what they mean to Masons. I am not a Mason. I am a Mormon.
I am only telling you what the symbols mean to Mormons; as a temple-endowed Mormon myself, I do know a few things about our temple rites and symbology, thankyouverymuch.
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It could very well
be like the Masons.
They tell you one thing about the meaning of those symbols, but only the higher degress know their real menaings.
And what would "the higher degrees" of my religion be, Armor?
I'm dying to know.
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Go ask your
"Living Prophet".
I'm asking you. Surprise me with your inside knowledge.
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