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CNBC: AIG, Merrill, Lehman, all DONE!!!

Turn it on if you still got a t.v.

They are falling like flies.

These three will disappear tonight.

The rest, only a matter of time.

Quote: "Commercial investment banks will be extinct within a few months."

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watch live online:

http://www.cnbc.com/id/24...

http://www.cnbc.com/ (under the breaking news tab)

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Can

Can I correctly assume that it is the sheep that are losing their shirts on wall street this week? Should I feel bad about it? I dont. Maybe this will wake some of them up. I was advising my friends and family to get out of stocks last fall. I dont know if any did. I do know that two friends of mine that didnt heed my advice have lost just about everything they had in the market since. They listen to me now. Oh and AIG is reportedly done for if they cant raise 73 billion tomorrow. Now isnt that just stupid.

McCain

McCain and Bush both say the fundamentals are strong. I would like them to state what the fundamentals are and how/why they are strong.

It is becoming painfully clear to the sheep now

that all their faith in mccain/bush and the rest of the Ne-cons bullshit is nothing more than that plain and utter bullshit. This could be a good thing folks . Bush/Paulson/Bernanke and all of them are coming to the end of their rope.

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Stop the NWO....It's just illumi..Naughty !

It looks like AIG came back from the dead to say ...

Goodbye.

I would be surprised if they keep their doors open this week.

As far as the OP goes, I was merely quoting the experts.

WAHOR!!
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/48994

Hey Paulson say's

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080915/paulson_markets.html
Theres nothing wrong. We the sheep should hold faith in the nations financial system. Everything is going to be alright you guys. We are all safe. Go out and take out some loans to have a night on the town. Yippee. Hip hooray.

How strange...

150+ year old companies going down...

It's hard to believe that Merrill and Lehman have both managed to survive through a civil war, a depression, two world wars and multiple recessions but neither company can survive the 'so-called' recession that the media keeps telling us that we're in.

Dump the dollar and buy gold and silver while you still can!

-John
http://www.voteubele.com/AIPAC.htm
john@voteubele.com

Now for the big question.....

Who will sponser Manchester United next year?

HOW ABOUT A PARTY BOMB! View

HOW ABOUT A PARTY BOMB!
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Posted September 15th, 2008 by ruckmanite
It seems to me that if all of us switch to third party now, perhaps all on the same day it would create alot of news for the revolution especially with the way the stock market is headed. The headlines could be:

" worst day on wall street in 90 years appears to cause a loss of confidence in the democratic and republican parties as 100,000 former ron paul supporters launched what they called a party bomb today by signed up for the constitution party sending a very loud vote of no confidence in the two party system that has created the present financial crises".

This could be bigger exposure than ron pauls money bombs especially if we have a baldwin money bomb on its heels.

"Ron pauls assertion that the country would be better off without the fed and paper money while drawing criticism from wall street is apparently helping his supporters as 100,000 gave a vote of no confidence in the two party system by pledging 7 million dollars to third party candidate 'the day i take office the nwo comes tumbling down' Chuck Baldwin!

The two stories create a third story. problem (stock market) reaction (loss of confidence in fed and paper money) solution (switch to third parties).

"The revolutionary forces have to take civil society before they take the state, and therefore have to build a coalition of oppositional groups united under a hegemonic banner which usurps the dominant or prevailing hegemony." -Strinati, Dominic.

Oh..

yah!! Par-tee!!

Excellent idea!

Let's all get this going as soon as possible! We may have a real opportunity here to further Liberty and hopefully keep the two bozos out of office!

Thank you for the reply

Thank you for the reply delegatedennis. I thought it was a pretty good idea too but so far you were the only person that commented on it. I put a post on the forum and no one hit it so it went off the chart. I thought it must not have been a good idea after all. I put it back up 3 times and finally got tired of commenting on my own post. Looks like it will go to oblivion unless people find it and comment on it . quess i'll try to put it at ron paul forums.

"The revolutionary forces have to take civil society before they take the state, and therefore have to build a coalition of oppositional groups united under a hegemonic banner which usurps the dominant or prevailing hegemony." -Strinati, Dominic.

What is the cost of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac bail out?

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." Benjamin Franklin
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How much per individual will it be if we divide the cost by the U.S. population?

Or, how much per household will it be if we divide the cost by the number of households in the U.S.?

Will this number be a pretty good rough estimate of the cost of the bailout per tax payer?

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." Benjamin Franklin
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Not sure where I read it

But I read somewhere that the Fannie/Freddie bailout will raise each American's debt by almost 8000.00 a head.

Rough estimates range

from $100 Billion to $250 Billion for the lowest estimate range.

I think that comes out to around $1k per person, as a minimum figure.
Could go alot higher than that as a maximum.

As with everything the

As with everything the government estimates, we should know by now that it is never as they state. The real cost of the bailouts will probably exceed $1.3 trillion. The real cost, when all is said and done, is likely to range between $1.3 trillion to $1.6 trillion, if not reach $2.5 trillion or more.

“Men do not willingly read unpalatable truths of themselves. The people like those best who fool them most by pandering to their vices and flattering their foibles”—Admiral Raphael Semmes.

http://www.1776solution.blogspot.com

“MEN DO NOT WILLINGLY READ UNPALATABLE TRUTHS OF THEMSELVES. THE PEOPLE LIKE THOSE BEST WHO FOOL THEM MOST BY PANDERING TO THEIR VICES AND FLATTERING THEIR FOIBLES”—ADMIRAL RAPHAEL SEMMES.

Bush just called it "adjustments" to the financial markets :)

What a bone head!!!!!!!!!

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LOL

Be careful... If you watch too much CNBC

You'll start thinking this is a good thing!

These hosts are like robots... with the exception of Rick Santelli who has at least pointed to the fact that the govt. is Socialists.

Mike
"Fire Team for Freedom" and "Revolutionary Business"
visit www.mikeandjake.com

Mike
"Fire Team for Freedom"
visit www.mikeandjake.com

Good point, Mike...

This morning they had a panel of like 5 or 6 guys. I ignored all pf them while waiting for Rick. Although he's no Dr. Paul, he probably the closest (other than Peter Schiff, of course) to him that I've heard. At least he tries to be honest...

Yours in Liberty,

Shovel

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote..." ~ Ben Franklin

"The 'cost of freedom' is risk and responsibility..." ~ Me

Yours in Liberty,

Shovel

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote..." ~ Ben Franklin

"The 'cost of freedom' is risk and responsibility..." ~ Me

Wall Street awakes to 2 storied firms falling

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080915/ap_on_bi_ge/financial_me...

Christopher Whalen, managing director of Institutional Risk Analytics, a research firm, predicts that approximately 110 banks with $850 billion in assets could close by next July. That's out of 8,400 federally insured institutions, he said, which together hold $13 trillion in assets.

Individual customers are starting to get nervous about the financial health of their banks for the first time in generations, he said. Whalen's firm analyzes the safety and soundness of banks for business clients, but began receiving inquiries from individuals in the past two months for the first time, he said.

"If we don't get ahead of this, we are going to face a run on the retail banks by election day," he said.

today = 88th Anniversary of Birth of Weimar Republic!!!

i googled: weimar germany burning german marks photos - and got this!
http://www.bitsofnews.com/content/view/5955

a new site for me. some good info and graphs...check it out!

check out the infamous photo at the bottom of the link of the woman burning
her german marks in her wood stove.

FROM THE ARTICLE!!!

Happy Birthday!

Which brings us to an ironic anniversary. While the Federal Reserve is busy monetizing debt by creating money out of thin air, today happens to be the 88th anniversary of the birth of the Weimar Republic.

Ron Paul is My President

Ron Paul is my President

Market Collapse-Heed Ron Paul's Predictions

Take a look at this video..............

http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker/article/56654/Crisis-on...

GOD BLESS US ALL

from yahoo news...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080915/ap_on_bi_ge/financial_me...

Ron Paul is My President

Ron Paul is my President

SILVER IS ALMOST PLUS as I write this 09:25:43 EST.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." Benjamin Franklin
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"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." Benjamin Franklin
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NOW UP 3 CENTS! 09:30:03 EST

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." Benjamin Franklin
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"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." Benjamin Franklin
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OH NO, NOW IT'S DOWN 4 CENTS! 09:46:27 EST

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." Benjamin Franklin
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"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." Benjamin Franklin
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NOW, IT'S BACK UP 2 CENTS! 09:48:35 EST THE VOLATILITY

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." Benjamin Franklin
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MAKES ME DIZZY!

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." Benjamin Franklin
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greed its the same old

greed its the same old pattern for the last month.. gold and silver are up overnight as much as 20.00 for gold and silver by 40 or 50cents.. then when US markets open and london closes the price gets hammered down!
pretty soon here they won't be able to do anything with it.. the Euro is looking weak the dollar is still weak, the money of last resort is Gold and silver.. it is just a matter of time till people throughout the world start to buy hand over fist! the Russian Government has over 500 billion in gold.. the Chinese have LOTS.. the arabs have LOTS.. they forsaw what was coming and bought on the cheap.. when the masses get it figured out that they have been raped they to will jump in and try to buy whatever sraps there are , but as we have seen silver is in shortage! there will not be much for people to buy except at much higher prices! what is that price 50 or 100.00 an ounce for silver? think people are going to sell when they know there isn't any! what about all the industrial users who could bring billions of dollars to the silver market to stock up in order to keep there manufacturing plants open! were talking all the major appliance makers.. electronics makers.. etc.. I wish people would have read butler... we are now starting to see what he has been talking about for 8 years!
this is gonna get good!

"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson

I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain

SIERRAHPBT: HELP ME negotiate with coin dealers!

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." Benjamin Franklin
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Let's say I buy a gold coin for around $820 from a coin dealer. I want to sell this coin right back to the dealer at un-manipulated price of gold. What would be the un-manipulated price of gold? $2000 or $3000 or $10,000 per ounce? How should I go about explaining this? How can I convince them to buy back the gold coin at the real un-manipulated price of gold?

And those who paid over $20 for an ounce of silver coin, how can they convince dealers that they should buy back for over $20 per ounce because silver should keep the purchasing power and losing about 50% of the value is nothing but illusion?

PLEASE, HELP!

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." Benjamin Franklin
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dude! like any other

dude! like any other investment you pays your dues and takes your chances... like any other investment I hope you look at the fundementals before you buy.. the fundemantals have not changed.. the fed is stil printing money banks are going broke, the insurance industry is now teetering! you buy and hold for the long term with metals.. the problem with you is you do not understand gold or silver.. what they are and what there function is! till you understand that I can't help you!

I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain

"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson

I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain

here comes the Amero....

....a gulf of tonken event, martial law....bam.

are we at all far off from this?

i hope not! if we get

i hope not! if we get martial law its gonna be dictator booshhh

"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson

I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain

I see the amero

But dollar has to drop. I still do not understand why its not...

Freedom may be worth searching for.

Remember, Dont battle the govt with guns(ALONE), Beat them in court, in state legislature, or hire Ron Paul for president.

Freedom may be worth searching for.

Remember, Dont battle the govt with guns(ALONE), Beat them in court, in state legislature, or hire Ron Paul for president.

Because all the other curencies are junk too!

All of the other curencies are fiat junk too. It's really just a race to the bottom.

NAU

Martial Law will include Canada

http://www.votenader.org/blog/2008/09/10/statement-to-ron-pa...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/57925480@N00/2660779139/sizes/l/

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The Case Against the Fed

Murray N. Rothbard ends his 150 page book "The Case Against the Fed" with a simple plan to abolish the Fed and return to the gold coin standard. From the last paragraph:

"One great advantage of this plan is its simplicity, as well as the minimal change in banking and the money supply that it would require. Even though the Fed would be abolished and the gold coin standard restored, there would, at this point, be no outlawry of fractional-reserve banking. The banks would therefore be left intact, but, with the Federal Reserve and its junior partner, federal deposit insurance, abolished, the banks would, at last, be on their own, each bank responsible for its own actions. There would be no lender of last resort, no taxpayer bailout..."

Available at
http://www.mises.org/store/product.aspx?ProductId=69

Information for the morning crowd.

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More articles

Wall Street crisis: Is this the death knell for derivatives?

Excerpt:

[Warren] Buffett made a gloomy prediction half a decade ago. "The derivatives genie is now well out of the bottle, and these instruments will almost certainly multiply in variety and number until some event makes their toxicity clear," he said. "Central banks and governments have so far found no effective way to control, or even monitor, the risks posed by these contracts."

That event has duly arrived. Lehman Brothers has declared bankruptcy. Merrill Lynch has rushed into the arms of Bank of America. AIG, once the US's largest insurer, is pleading with the Fed for funds.

World stock markets sink on Wall Street crisis

Excerpt:

A global consortium of banks, meanwhile, announced late Sunday a US$70 billion pool of funds to lend to ailing financial companies, a move geared toward preventing a worldwide panic on stock and other financial exchanges. The U.S. Federal Reserve chipped in with more largesse in its emergency lending program for investment banks.

The shake-up was needed to restore confidence in the markets, said Lorraine Tan, director at Standard & Poor's equity research in Singapore.

"A lot of people are getting burned," she said. "It's better to get this out of the system. Hopefully for the U.S. this could be it as far as potential failures of investment banks."

Stocks set for big sell off

Excerpt:

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Wall Street braced for a huge stock selloff Monday after one of the most calamitous days in U.S. financial services history resulted in Bank of America's $50 billion deal to buy Merrill Lynch and the bankruptcy filing of Lehman Brothers.

And then there's this one, which has me a little confused:
Lehman Brothers file for bankruptcy

Excerpt:

Additionally, ten Wall Street banks have agreed to set up a collateralized borrowing facility, and committed to fund for $7 billion each.

The banks are Bank of America, Barclays, Citibank, Credit Suisse, Deutsche Bank, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, Merrill Lynch, Morgan Stanley, and UBS. These banks have said they are committed to fund $7 billion each for a $70 billion collateralized borrowing facility.

The banks add that they are working together to assist in maximizing market liquidity through ongoing trading relationships, dealer credit terms and capital committed to markets. This will also facilitate the orderly resolution of OTC derivatives exposures between Lehman and its counterparties.

All ten banks say they intend to use expanded federal reserve primary dealers credit facility this week. The banks say their actions reflect "extraordinary market environment".

Did you see Merrill Lynch included in that list? Yeah, so did I. How are they participating in a $70bn fund when they themselves are being bought out by B of A for pennies on the dollar?

ML's motto used to be, "We're bullish on America." I think that second word needs to be altered a bit now.

Lehman up for auction on Ebay!!! DIGG!

http://digg.com/business_finance/Lehman_up_for_auction_on_EBay

The Q and A section is hilarious!

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"The essence of freedom is the proper limitation of government". ~ Founding Fathers

my offer

Golly Gee Shit!

So much for Bushonomics...

Hey bigmike -- nice to see you.

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Lisa C.

**This space is available.**

You too girl

check this out it's on Lehmans front page, upper right.

http://www.lehman.com/

If i keep reading

Im going to puke.. At what point does the shit hit the fan?

It's hit the fan

but the speed of the fan is still on low...perhaps it needs a little bit more stirring but the speed will be turned up soon!

Hopefully once it's

oscillated around toward Bernanke.

Well that seals it, doesn't it?

Couldn't find a buyer. Well, no worry there -- you'll bail them out bigmike. Just keep working, K?

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Lisa C.

**This space is available.**

QUESTION????????????

I am thinking about listing the "Federal Reserve" on Ebay. I have over 20,000 feedback's, and I am a power seller......I know this will go #1 on Digg if I do it...but should I risk my entire Ebay account for this???

I will post it with photos and full reference to how "We" started the Federal Reserve........can you imagine...

Should I do it or not??