G. Edward Griffin: An Idea Whose Time Has Come
There is no point in worrying about the erosion of personal freedom that is the reality of our present era if we can do nothing about it. They say that knowledge is power, but that is one of the greatest myths of all history. Knowledge without action is useless and leads only to apathy and despair. So the question is: what type of action can reverse this trend? Writing letters and signing petitions to the same people who have created the problem is not going to do it. Voting for candidates selected by power brokers with hidden agendas will not do it either. There have been many proposals to reverse the tide of totalitarianism but, after decades of effort, none of them have worked.
In this address, G. Edward Griffin, Founder of Freedom Force, tells us why; and the reason is so simple, it will astound you. Once we clear away that single barrier, the plan for a pro-active counter-force falls quickly into place. This is the missing piece of the puzzle, the ultimate solution we have been seeking. Visit www.freedom-force.org for more information
Thanks to my friend Bob Dwyer for the tip on this one.
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What do you mean Bob Dwyer?
What do you mean Bob Dwyer? I posted this three days ago before anyone else mentioned it!
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Yes you did! Ralphwaldo----Please watch this
And I watched it, loved it and saw that front page the next day. I thought you were the guy he was taking about. Thank you so much for posting this.
Inspiration
I now have a rejuvenated sense of direction.
My artistic inspiration fizzled when I realized that it's all mostly novelty. I'm not going to change much by inventing musical instruments, costumes and singing about enlightenment/religion/politics. I feel a higher calling than being a mere entertainer...
The seeds have been planted...
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Citizen's Deliberative
Citizen's Deliberative Councils. Google that! I would love for G Edward Griffin to learn about that stuff, it would improve his game overnight!
Meetup groups on steroids!
I googled that phrase and found a site called "The Co-Intelligence Institute" (http://www.co-intelligenc...) - they offer a huge amount of information we could use to improve OUR game!
Oh, and if you check out my
Oh, and if you check out my last 5-10 posts on here they are all in regards, more or less, to this material. I will be the only one posting about this stuff on here until everyone else is!!!
I like to be a trendsetter, what can I say?
I'm hoping
the C4L will be implementing a program that will enable us to use all the material we have been gathering, i.e., Dictatorship to Democracy, The Co-Intelligence Institute, thelastoutpost.com, etc.
Yeah, it'd be nice to see,
Yeah, it'd be nice to see, but I think if we all just work on implementing this stuff on our local level with our freedom coalitions then we'll do just fine.
Aaah, finally another person
Aaah, finally another person who "gets it" in regards to this material!!!
Yes, to answer your non-question, this stuff is POWERFUL!!!
Every single person wishing to get back this republic should be studying, implementing, and spreading this stuff, but that's just me talking!!!
I'm going to be interviewing(hopefully, he's been kind of MIA lately. ..) the founder of the Co-Intelligence Institute, Tom Atlee soon for a podcast I'm working on, will post that when it's done as I think it will help people here see the bigger picture here.
cIAO
this is the only road to victory... start from the bottom..
and it it what Ron Paul and C4L is all about.
You can´t win elections, when the game is rigged....
Change the game first. :)
/Mike
This might still work ...
but I doubt it. There may have been some chance 40 or 50 years ago; but I figure we have, at most, 2-4 years, before this totalitarian system plays out.
It can Only Work
if We the People make it work. It's time to roll up our sleeves. It's time to walk the walk, before we're all sporting RFID chips, the Internet is silenced, our guns are taken and half of us are in FEMA concentration camps. Are you going to let the Builderburg Group continue unimpeded? We have to infiltrate them. Are you going to submit to the desires of the CFR? We have to infiltrate them. Are you ready for the North American Union? Do you think the passing of power from King George Dubya to King Obama or King McCane is going to change anything? We need to become active and most importantly, spread the message to friends, relatives, acquaintances and co-workers, especially those older ones who are not exposed to the internet. There is precious little in the Mass Media to wake them up. Impotentes defendere libertatem non possunt!
also important to note...
is Griffin's mentioning of how absolutely corrupting power is. so when you run for your local office, do not ever put your integrity and knowledge aside.
Because there will be times that you will be expected to do that.
I Agree With Stronger Measure as ML
FREEDOM
Please summarize Griffin's main points
for those who can't watch an hour video. He is not a dynamic speaker.
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His analogy
to our current situation, long story short: we are all on a luxury cruise ship in the middle of the sea and one or two of us has witnessed the captain of the ship being killed by hijackers who plan to take the passengers to a prison to be used as slaves. What to do? There are seven scenarios, can't remember details of them all, but only one of them will work: 1. do nothing based on fear & wait for someone else to do something 2. join the hijackers with the hope they'll use you as a guard instead of making you prisoner 3. pretend it's not happening 4. petition them with letters asking them to stop 5. hide or jump ship, but they'll eventually find you 6. sue them for breaking the law or 7, which is the one that works, stage a counter-coup & find a way to take the ship back by non-violent means, which means working together. You can read liberty-force.org to read about ways to do so. Hope this helps.
By the way...
Schvenzelman's (sp?) response to this thread typifies the attitude of most of us, which is why we're in the trouble we are. I doubt it was Mr. Griffin's intent to provide entertainment for us when he made this presentation. Just because you don't feel he's "dynamic" enough doesn't mean we all shouldn't take the time to watch the video and others like it. It is not enough to have the knowledge, it is all about finding ways to do something about the knowledge we gain from videos like this. Just my $.02 on that.
I agree, but the speakers on my computer just died..
so I am thankful for your summary
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The Constitution. Austrian economics as well.
When's O'Reilly on?
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“It is (truly) an idea whose time has come.”
Michael
Thanks for posting this.
“It is (truly) an idea whose time has come.”
G Edward Griffin lays out the exact problem we are facing and also shows us the faces behind the NWO (CFR) and offers a clear solution. Know yourself, know your enemy. Think and organize like they do. Build your numbers. There is exponential return to of investment of resources when you have the numbers. The CFR numbers are around 4000. How many do we have?
My guess is, based on my 10% X10% formula. If the C4L has close to 100,000 members who have “signed on”. In reality, 10% of those members will not just “sign on”, but also “show up” as seen at the Rally for the Republic, where close to 10,000 freedom lovers “showed up”. Now take 10% of that will give you the exact number of Patriots whom are willing to do anything and everything in their power to make the changes and enlighten the masses to our oppositions goals. We have an army of hardcore activists, which is now approximately 1,000 strong. But we lack the organization that of the CFR, that’s where the C4L can counter the globalist agenda of our enemy.
The Campaign for Liberty can and must incorporate an organized structure that will counter balance the weight of our enemy’s manpower and resources.
I am suggesting that this structure, mirror the one laid out by our forefathers.
Our District leaders will represent the same power within the C4L as a congressman and the 2 state coordinators shall represent the same power as our US senators.
As far as the executive branch goes, I think we should curb the power of this branch by creating a board of executives, say 7,9 or 13, which will balance the decision making and eliminate the usurpations of executive power.
For starters we could have 4 quarterly senatorial conventions where each state sends one of the two Senators.
Each state would be required to hold their quarterly state wide convention one month prior to the national conventions.
Starting to get the idea.
If anyone out there agrees that this would be a solid structure for C4L then we need to press Dr. Ron Paul to incorporate this design. Anything less will be ineffective.
Hi Bob
I agree with you about implementing the holographic structure for C4L. Also, adapting the The Creed of Freedom would be excellent too.
What a great foundation for a Party Platform!
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It's good to see
this on the front page. G. Edward Griffin has been plumbing the depths of the rabbit hole longer than anyone I know. Although he wasn't the first to try and expose the Fed for what it is, he was possibly the first to make it understandable to the man in the street, with his book "The Creature from Jekyll Island," and this ability to explain things with level-headed common sense, logic and careful documentation characterizes all his works. (I sometimes wonder if the "G." stands for "Gandalf".)
What he's suggesting is a long-term plan that will see us through in the end, and I think globally, this is our best solution. It's not an organization that can be subverted since it remains a collection of individuals guided not by a "charismatic leader" but by a common philosophy; and motivated not by money or power, but simply a personal concept of duty to ourselves and our fellow man.
It may not appeal to those who believe "the writing is on the wall" and that we ought to be preparing for some kind of confrontation, but while there are times when one must fight, we can't neglect our share of responsibility for what must be done in our own areas, especially continuing to educate those around us, since it was a deficient education system that now allows fascism to creep in.
Besides, revolutions, as demonstrated in history, only replace one dictator with another dictator. If this movement goes forward on a broad scale, and rationality and goodwill prevail, it'll be a victory that is seldom witnessed on this planet. In fact it would be quite a step up the evolutionary ladder for all mankind.
Great!
this is one of the greatest lectures out there. Very motivating and 100% true. I highly suggest you invest the hour+ it takes to watch. I liked it so much i bought the DVD to support freedom-force
scary
A bit much I think and not what I see as freedom.
Great Stuff
the ship analogy is spot on.
Someone Posted This A Few Months Ago
And it made an impression on me. The trouble is, I fear any organization is susceptible to getting hijacked. It's unclear to me how to make this foolproof.
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That may have been me...
DP was the 1st place I posted this before I created this thread: http://forums.libertylove...
I believe it was.
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It's the holographic structure
It's perfect. If you are with the idea (I know that answer) you're already sort of part of it. When the opportunity to effect change comes you know where you stand and who your enemies are.
Thanks
And I guess that's what I don't understand. I know he explained it but I'm not getting how it works in practice.
I'm certainly ready.
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It's weird but, you're already doing it
You tell people about what you know, you don't seek to oppress others, you are prepared to defend liberty at all costs. It's the way you live your life and the decisions you make, but also the clubs you join and the influence you exert.
Think of it as the exact opposite of the NWO. Move like they do and subvert them.
with that said, and I'm going to erase this part in 2 minutes, I don't think it would be hard to get people organized for a one or two day massacre of those fucks once and for all from the qu66n on down. I'm with it
Michael, Cologne
can you erase that last post please. My dog was at the keyboard again.
dude I can't
it shut me out of editing
Lol, yeah, you better erase that.
But thanks, I'm doing what I can, but I want to do more locally. I guess I'll have to trust my instincts, and yours.
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One man selects the candidate
Rita EllithorpeMD Says:
September 15th, 2008 at 11:31 pm
I just had to share this. I just got home from the orange county California republican meeting. The chairman opened with a (how did you like Minneapolis Mn?) mild applause. (how about Rudy?) minimal appalause. (how about Huckabee?) minimal applause. Then he said with a little more pleading voice (well how about McCain?) moderate applause. (well then how about ….um… Palin?) LOUD CHEERS and applause! (um .. well let’s get her elected!) LOUD CHEERS and applause. So there you have it folks, all your tax dollars were regulated to be spent on a selection by one man-trophy-wife electoral process of the late great USA. My comment (dumb-Republicans) Then many Ron Paul old spamers left.
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Time to take back the
Time to take back the centers of power, one by one!
He lays it out there quite nicely.
Great Video!....onward
Great Video!....onward march, Paulites!
yes! exactly
this is what i was hoping you would watch when you were saying you wanted to quit the Republican Party.
stay in! Stick around. We could use you.
Correct that headline, please.
"Whose", not "who's".
-jcr
ha
i actually just saw this yesterday.
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This is well worth viewing, memorizing, and saying everywhere. The five part series he refers to is on the freedomforce website.
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