
2500.00 dollar gold and 250.00 silver
Submitted by SIERRAHPBT on Sat, 09/20/2008 - 10:09
please read this... you must understand what will happen or lose out!
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$2,500.00 Gold and $250.00 Silver
By Peter Degraaf
Sep 18 2008 2:36PM
‘That’s ridiculous’ I can hear someone saying.
But is it really all that far-fetched?
Let’s begin by adjusting the previous high gold price of $850 set in 1980, into today’s dollar value. By using the US government’s own inflation calculator (bls.gov/data/inflation-calculator.htm or simply Google ‘BLS inflation calculator’), we find out that gold should be trading at $2,260 to match the 1980 high of $850.
For silver the price today should be $129 to match the 1980 high of $48.
If one were to use the statistics maintained by John Williams at Shadowstats.com the numbers would be twice as high: close to $5,000 for gold and well over $250 for silver.
We need to keep in mind that there are today several billion people who were not part of the global population back then. According to Goldman-Sachs an estimated 70 million people worldwide are entering the middle class each year. Once people attain middle class status, they will work hard to stay there or advance higher still.
It is a coincidence that in two rapidly rising economies (China and India), the population has a centuries old attraction to precious metals.
The action in gold and silver during the past few days is an indication of how rapid the price rise can be. In a previous article I used the metaphor of a beach ball held under water. The deeper you push the ball the faster it rises once released.
The commercial gold traders who were ‘net short’ 247,000 contracts as reported on July 18th, have reduced this position to being ‘net short’ 94,000 contracts as of last week.
The commercial traders could tell that the ‘beach ball was about to pop up.’
Lease rates for gold have doubled during the past 30 days. This is going to have the effect of having less Central Bank gold released into the marketplace via leasing. Meanwhile more and more money is being created worldwide to pay for government promises and various bailouts, as government officials and politicians almost always use monetary inflation instead of taxation to pay the bills.
Chart courtesy www.stockcharts.com
Featured is the monthly gold chart with the 30 month moving average. The arrows point to upside reversals (blue) or downside reversals (purple). When they appear on a monthly chart, they often are powerful indicators for future direction. The latest one needs to close at this level or above, by September 30th, to indicate to us that the gold trend has turned bullish again. The bottom of this months range is right at the Fibonacci 38.2% correction level which adds all the more credibility to the possibility that this will turn out to be an upside reversal. The supporting indicators are near support levels (green lines), and in the case of the RSI it is already turning up again.
There are many factors driving this 6 year old bull market.
Worldwide monetary inflation.
US CPI rising at 4% or more yr/yr
US PPI rising at double digit rates yr/yr
While oil prices have stabilized at levels well below the $145 a gallon mark, energy consumption worldwide continues to rise, which causes price inflation to continue. In August, PEMEX reported that Mexican crude production fell 20% thus far in 2008 compared to 2007. It is expected that Mexico will have to import oil within 4 years. The International Energy Agency recently raised its demand forecast for worldwide oil consumption, despite a 4.6 drop in US demand. Claims of Saudi oil reserves are highly suspect. Without any new oilfields having started to produce there, reserves nevertheless are listed at some 15 billion barrels above 1978 levels, after oil has been pumped out all these years. The end to the bull market in oil will only come after a worldwide reduction in consumption, or several years after some major oil discoveries.
The US budget deficit for 2008 is predicted to be at least double that for 2007.
Gold supply continues to taper off, as the cost of building a gold mine, not to mention the amount of paperwork involved, is deterring new mine building. Production in South Africa is expected to be 10% below 2007.
Commodity cycles run on average 20 years. The current gold cycle is barely one third of the way into that cycle.
In May of 2008, Richard Fischer, President of the Dallas Federal Reserve indicated that the US Federal debt including Medicare is close to 99 trillion dollars. Since taxation is not an option for such a large amount, the printing press will be running overtime.
China and Japan between them hold some 2 trillion dollars in US bills and Treasuries. The interest that has to be paid on this debt has to be created month after month.
There is ongoing pressure on the US dollar since it reached resistance on the charts at ‘80’. The Federal Reserve is unlikely to raise interest rates to support the dollar until the housing crisis is settled, and that could take a while.
“Real interest rates’ (T-bills less CPI) are negative, according to the Federal Reserve. (See chart below). Gold always rises when real rates are negative.
Chart courtesy Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis. The ‘Real Interest Rate’ is approaching -.4%
Next the daily ‘nearest futures’ gold chart.
Courtesy (www.stockcharts.com)
Gold on Wednesday cut through the two-month old resistance like a hot knife through butter. The supporting indicators turned positive (green lines). Price closed at the horizontal resistance line (cash gold closed above it). There is of course the possibility of price consolidation here before a resumption of the new uptrend, but in the main the short-term trend has matched the long term bullish uptrend (blue channel) once again.
The seasonal lows which sometimes arrive in June, and last year bottomed in August, came in a month late this year, causing some to wonder if the bull market in gold was over. It would appear that the market answered that question on Wednesday, with a resounding NO!
My Gold Direction Indicator which had been at +80% for the previous two days, shot up to +100% at the close on Wednesday.
Peter Degraaf,
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Hyperinflation
Things could go very crazy soon.
Ron Paul did say
Ron Paul did say INFLATIONARY DEPRESSION.. Ron Paul will be proven right again!
I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain
"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson
I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain
why not $10,000.00 and $1,500.00 ?
When you're smoking the really good stuff, why limit yourself to simply the absurd ?
Aim higher ... the more ridiculous, the more the other stoners will believe they are in for the once in a lifetime shot !
6 months ago, it was - buy Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac ! - make a killing !
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Our fondest wishes. and our worst fears, are seldom realized !
did you read the article?
did you read the article? ofcourse not.. lol don't do anything! I personally think it will go higher.. but then again some of you are much to lazy to really get into doing your own research.. to bad you will miss the opportunity of a lifetime.. but then again with the shortages already here you may have already missed out!
I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain
"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson
I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain
yes
I did read the article.
Why do you ask a question, and then answer it yourself ?
The "you" in my comment is rhetorical, including the author of the article, and - you, sierra.
Speaking of the "shortage", Daddy Warbucks has a link on another thread to a sale of 50,000 Maple Leafs !
How come you and your family are not worshiping the lord any more ?
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Our fondest wishes. and our worst fears, are seldom realized !
always have and always will
always have and always will worship the lord.. now as far as my mark twain below i think its fitting for the time now as for you what other name are you hiding from here on the daily paul.. you ashamed of the other name you went by? now your in disguise with a 2 week old name? as for the "shortage" you think 50,000 maple leafs is a lot? thats didly squat compared to what is consumed.. but ofcourse you don't read about the facts there either do you?!
I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain
"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson
I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain
another paranoid delusion !
I have never been here under any other name.
I read this forum for about 2 months before I registered, after being told about it by a friend.
In the few weeks since I registered, it seems to be getting a whole lot sillier.
People are posting that they are searching high and low for 2 or 3 coins, or some junk, but 50,0000 Maple Leafs is insignificant ?
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correction
an extra 0 slipped in - should read 50,000
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Our fondest wishes. and our worst fears, are seldom realized !
right.... right.... again
right.... right.... again how uninformed you are.. give it a break!
I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain
"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson
I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain
uninformed,
but doin' OK !
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Our fondest wishes. and our worst fears, are seldom realized !
"Dow, 30,000 by 2008" Why
"Dow, 30,000 by 2008" Why It's Different This Time
http://www.amazon.com/Dow-2008-Different-This-Time/dp/189395...
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"Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" Bugs Bunny
"Scwewy Wabbit!" Elmer Fudd
i know numbers are much to
i know numbers are much to hard for you redneck... keep playin that banjo and just watch the world go bye... its really to bad!
I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain
"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson
I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain
Scientists in Switzerland
Scientists in Switzerland tested their $3.8 billion supercollider this week and there was relief that the theoretical fear that smashing protons would create a black hole didn’t materialize. If the science guys want to find actual black holes, they should visit the atom smasher that is Wall Street and see how the collision of buyers and sellers has created a variety of black holes at Lehman.
"Committed To The Eradication Of Poverty Among Patriots"
"Those Who Strive For Excellence Refuse To Fear Mediocrity; They Eradicate It."
Zero Tolerance For Flamers
"GINO" = Government In Name Only
I read $10 billion they spent on this
and I believe it blew a fuse or something that will keep it out of operation for a couple of months. Maybe Wall Street will blow a fuse soon too.
LOL
I wish