ADD YOUR NAME~How to keep McBama and O'Cain OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE!~
Posted October 1st, 2008 by vincebodie
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My fellow DPers,
This just went out to my email list. Feel free to copy it, amend it, and spread it far and wide...
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Hello,
I just got this email forwarded to me, and I thought it was important enough to pass on to you.
If you are part of the 2% or so that will benefit from the recent Wall Street "bailout", then feel free to trash this email. The rest of you may want to read on...
Remember the "Microsoft will send you a check for $20k if you forward this email" email, and the "puppies and kittens sleeping together" email, and the "1970's JC Penney catalog" email, and how it seems that everyone you know has seen them? Keep them in mind as you read this.
With the recent "bailout" of Wall Street at the expense of the American taxpayer, it's about time that we take a good hard look at our "two party system". With both the Democrat and Republican presidential candidates voting in favor of dumping the losses of Wall Street speculators and foreign investors into the laps of current and future generations of Americans - WHILE THEY GET TO KEEP THE PROFITS - it has become painfully obvious that neither of these candidates have OUR best interests in mind.
Estimates are that 95% - 98% of Americans are against the "bailout". So why is that both the Democrat and Republican candidates voted for it? Well, have a look at these statistics:
John McCain's donor base: (from http://www.opensecrets.or...)
Merrill Lynch $306,813 *
Citigroup Inc $277,251 **
Goldman Sachs $234,345 **
Morgan Stanley $234,272 **
AT&T Inc $192,557
JPMorgan Chase & Co $185,325 **
Credit Suisse Group $165,575 *
Blank Rome LLP $155,326
Greenberg Traurig LLP $148,787
UBS AG $138,665 **
PricewaterhouseCoopers $138,320
US Government $137,842
Bank of America $133,975 *
FedEx Corp $123,953
Wachovia Corp $123,096 *
Pinnacle West Capital $123,050
Lehman Brothers $120,600 **
Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher $104,250
US Army $103,613
Bear Stearns $99,300 *
Barrack Obama's donor base: (from http://www.opensecrets.or...)
Goldman Sachs $748,880 **
University of California $625,911
JPMorgan Chase & Co $493,469 **
Harvard University $473,669
Citigroup Inc $467,849 **
Google Inc $426,174
University of Chicago $424,539
UBS AG $423,045 **
Skadden, Arps et al $394,335
Lehman Brothers $393,324 **
National Amusements Inc $385,803
Microsoft Corp $380,735
Sidley Austin LLP $379,802
Kirkland & Ellis $376,164
Moveon.org $347,463
Morgan Stanley $341,320 **
Time Warner $338,677
Notice that the companies with asterisks* will ALL benefit from the bailout. Also notice that six of these companies with two asterisks** are heavily backing BOTH candidates.
How does this make you feel, knowing that YOUR future is being mortgaged away BY BOTH PARTIES to protect the wild investment strategies of a few crooks on Wall Street and some international bankers? Frankly, it makes most Americans ANGRY!
That said, here are a few questions for you to ponder:
Obama supporters:
1. Does it worry you that Senator Obama voted to allow spying on your emails and phone calls (FISA)?
2. How does it make you feel to know that Barack voted FOR the PATRIOT ACT?
3. Are you concerned that he now favors offshore oil drilling?
4. Are you worried that he will just move our brave soldiers from the deserts of Iraq to the deserts of Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Iran?
5. His advisors include people from the Clinton and Bush administrations, and his running mate has spent over half of his life in the U.S. Senate. Is this real "change"?
6. Are you happy with his "bailout" vote?
McCain supporters:
1. Are you comfortable with McCain's promises to really slash government spending and lower your taxes while remaining in Iraq for 100 years?
2. Do you agree with his vote to grant amnesty to 12 million people who have entered our country illegally?
3. Do you really believe he is a staunch supporter of the second amendment and the right to life?
4. Are you happy with his "bailout" vote?
Knowing what you know about both candidates' votes on the "bailout", does this surprise you?: Voting 72-26, senators in 2005 passed a bill that would shift most large class-action suits from state courts to federal courts, where corporate defendants improve their chances of winning. McCain and Obama voted YES.
Albert Einstein described insanity as "doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results".
So what can we do about it? Well, there are four candidates in the race who are on the ballot in enough states to WIN THE ELECTION, and who have agreed on four very important planks that the Democrat and Republican parties refuse to address:
1. FOREIGN POLICY: The Iraq War must end as quickly as possible with removal of all our soldiers from the region. We must initiate the return of our soldiers from around the world, including Korea, Japan, Europe and the entire Middle East. We must cease the war propaganda, threats of a blockade and plans for attacks on Iran, nor should we re-ignite the cold war with Russia over Georgia. We must be willing to talk to all countries and offer friendship and trade and travel to all who are willing. We must take off the table the threat of a nuclear first strike against all nations.
2. PRIVACY: We must protect the privacy and civil liberties of all persons under US jurisdiction. We must repeal or radically change the Patriot Act, the Military Commissions Act, and the FISA legislation. We must reject the notion and practice of torture, eliminations of habeas corpus, secret tribunals, and secret prisons. We must deny immunity for corporations that spy willingly on the people for the benefit of the government. We must reject the unitary presidency, the illegal use of signing statements and excessive use of executive orders.
3. THE NATIONAL DEBT: We believe that there should be no increase in the national debt. The burden of debt placed on the next generation is unjust and already threatening our economy and the value of our dollar. We must pay our bills as we go along and not unfairly place this burden on future generations.
4. THE FEDERAL RESERVE: We seek a thorough investigation, evaluation and audit of the Federal Reserve System and its cozy relationships with the banking, corporate, and other financial institutions. The arbitrary power to create money and credit out of thin air behind closed doors for the benefit of commercial interests must be ended. There should be no taxpayer bailouts of corporations and no corporate subsidies. Corporations should be aggressively prosecuted for their crimes and frauds.
Ask yourself if you have EVER heard McCain or Obama discuss these issues in this manner during their campaigns - and when they did mention them, if you agreed with their positions or even believed that they were being sincere...
The candidates who support OPEN AND HONEST DISCUSSION of these four issues are:
Chuck Baldwin - Constitution Party - http://www.baldwin08.com/
Cynthia McKinney - Green Party - http://votetruth08.com/
Ralph Nader - Independent - http://www.votenader.org/
Bob Barr - Libertarian Party - http://www.bobbarr2008.co...
Here's something to ponder... What if instead of supporting the media's anointed candidates, We The People voted our conscience for once? Imagine the days leading up to November 4th, and it's a six way neck and neck race instead of more of the "same old, same old"... Imagine debates over REAL ISSUES for once! And while the solutions these candidates offer may differ somewhat, THERE WILL NEVER BE ANY SOLUTIONS UNTIL WE ADDRESS THE REAL PROBLEMS.
If you are worried about wasting your vote, remember that voting for the LESSER OF TWO EVILS is still a vote for EVIL, and that is truly a WASTED VOTE. If you vote FOR YOUR VALUES your vote is NEVER wasted.
Here are some websites related to this idea:
http://www.kickthemallout...
http://www.votepact.org
http://www.thirdpartytick...
http://www.voterbomb.com
If you agree with the ideas put forth in this email, please delete any email addresses shown in the header, add your name to the list below, and pass it on to as many people as you can. Remember the Microsoft and JC Penney and puppies and kittens emails? Well, it's time to use the power of the internet for REAL CHANGE! The vast majority of the voting public uses email, so let's get this message to every single one of them! WE CAN DO THIS!!!
One more thing... The media's polls often don't include third party candidates. Don't let these slanted polls fool you, this can work! They will be in for a BIG surprise! It's time to put control of our government back in the hands of We The People - PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND ME!
1. Vincent Mross, Glendale, CA
2. Carolee Williams, San Diego, CA
3. Dan Kramer, San Diego, CA
4. Jerry Day, Burbank, CA
5. Billy Grippo
6. Sharyn Keller, Los Angeles, CA
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Still waiting for more names
I have another group I want to send it to, but I would like to have more than six names at the bottom (especially since one of them is mine ;-)
Let's see some names!
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Please list more names here
Please list more names here so that I and anyone else who will be sending out new emails can show that momentum is gaining!
Heck, for that matter just add your own name to the roll call if nothing else. Let's keep this moving!
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one of the best posts ever
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I have been looking for something like this
to send out to all my friends & family. Thank you!
me too! done!!!
www.baldwin08.com - Chuck Baldwin or New World Order!
Good deal! Please report
Good deal! Please report back any successes you have, including adding lists of names so that others can build on it.
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good email to start talking about 3rd parties
Pretty good
One nit, though. I very much doubt that Al Einstein said the bit about doing the same thing repeatedly. The saying is very popular with the AA crowd, BTW.
Haha
Probably the NA and GA crowds too... I will change it to "as Einstein reportedly said..." Chuck Baldwin also used it in his latest "wasted vote" missive, BTW.
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Please post your name and
Please post your name and any other names that have been added to the list. I will be sending out another email to a different group, and the more names on it the better. Others can then copy and paste them into their own emails as well. Let's keep the ball rolling!
1. Vincent Mross, Glendale, CA
2. Carolee Williams, San Diego, CA
3. Dan Kramer, San Diego, CA
4. Jerry Day, Burbank, CA
5. Billy Grippo
6. Sharyn Keller, Los Angeles, CA
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A lot of people, especially Obama-ists
have been brainwashed into thinking that we only have a 2 party system and they must vote against the more evil candidate; that a third party vote is a wasted vote that helps the "more evil" one win.
I try to explain to these people that this is not true, it's only propaganda to keep the 2 major parties in power. But they have been brainwashed very well for so long! I keep trying to word it differently to convince them, but it still hasn't sunk in....
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DIEBOLD: "If Your Vote Counts, Then We're Not Doing Our Job."
It just occurred to me to
It just occurred to me to include the fact that Jesse Ventura won the MN governor's race with a $300k budget and one paid staffer, while his opponents were bankrolled to the tune of $10m.
I'm going to use this in a followup email.
IT'S DOABLE!!!
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An image is posted here, it might be more effective than lists:
http://nahc4.com/src/1222...
Ron Paul's Convention Speech
sempiternal
Can you provide the image without the list of Ron Paul donators? Not that I'm shy about mentioning Ron Paul. But to start a discussion it may be more point on to show ony the lists of McObombas donators.
Perhabs under the title: "Guess why Obama and McCain both supported the bailout?"
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Wonderful !
Freedom brings People together
Liberty Justice Peace coalition
how about an umbrella coalition to unite various patriotic efforts?
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Honorable effort
Honorable effort here....Thanks! After a few tweeks, I just sent it to 50 on my list :-) If everyone does the same, we're talking LEGEND here!
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I found an error in your
I found an error in your list up there. You said:
"Do you agree with his vote to grant amnesty to 12 million people who have entered our country illegally?"
The number is far higher than 12 million. Its closer to double that number.
In 2005, Bear Stearns estimated the number was close to 20 million, and its is certainly higher than 20 million almost 4 years later.
http://www.bearstearns.co...
Also worth noting is this article which gives you an idea of the racial makeup of the illegal immigrant population(approx 80% hispanic)
http://www.npr.org/templa...
Then you have some of the huge costs involved with illegal immigration, many people don't think illegals get welfare, as its a violation of a 1996 federal law, but guess what, many illegal aliens do get welfare as this report from los angeles shows. If te costs are this high for one county in california, imagine the cost for the entire U.S.
http://www.hometownstatio...
(have to scroll down a bit to see the article on this last site)
I'm glad Ron Paul broke with traditional libertarians on the illegal immigration issue. Back in the 80's, Ron Paul was on the same page with them, but now he's awoken to the serious problems of illegal immigration, he's opposed to amnesty for illegal aliens, opposed to automatic citizenship for children of illegal aliens, securing our borders and coastlines, rejecting welfare for illegals, going after visa overstayers(interior enforcement is key, not just border security), etc.
Traditional libertarians are angered and upset over Ron Pauls position on illegal immigration but many others(including me) are happy Ron Paul saw the light and came to his anti-illegal immigration stance oer time.
Here is an article Ron Paul wrote on the subject of illegal immigration
http://www.house.gov/paul...
One last note, I'd hope people who joined the Ron Paul revolution and now consider themselves libertarians will keep in mind Ron Paul's point of view on illegal immigration and how it differs greatly from the tradtional libertarian point of view, and in my view Ron Paul is right and they are wrong.
Ron Paul has not really
Ron Paul has not really changed his mind on illegal immigration. and has stated so. His only opposition is that he knew our country was in a financial crisis and job loss crisis and said that it was just too much to handle right now.
I'd say RP's changed
I'd say RP's changed viewpoint is one of pragmatism given current events. If the government wasn't handing out freebies to everyone who holds out their hand, whether they're here legally or not, then the issue wouldn't be nearly at the crisis stage that it is now.
You are right that I underestimated the extent and the costs of this issue in email though. I will keep your info in mind as a follow up to the original recipients.
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Post your successes here
Post your successes here with more names added so that we can view the results and keep the momentum going!
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Great idea!!
Though I would concentrate on informing people about McObomba's donors. If someone approaches me with the assumption, Obama will 'change' your country for the better, I always point out that they have the same donors and refer to the opensecret side. That's even more convincing since the bailout they both voted for.
Any graphic wizkid around for new designs for posters /T-Shirts? Any youtube? Some ideas:
Picture of McCain and Obama "Proudly supported by Corporate America.
google Obama McCain Opensecrets"
Picture of McCain and Obama "The great bail out - McCain donors ...
Obama donors ... (the former big five)
Picture of McCain and Obama "The McObomba twins - vote Third Party,
Baldwin ..
Nader ...
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If you copy above to send
If you copy above to send out, don't forget to click the links first and copy/paste from the site. The links copied from threads are not complete.
http://www.ohiofreedom.co...
Excellent Post - Bump
very good - will copy - paste and pass along....
baldwin 08
bump!
The above version has started circulating and getting a good response. Keep it going! Shorten it, modify it, whatever, but make sure to ask people to keep adding their names to the list.
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Great idea! Couldn't have said it much better!
If you put the long links in the post in the following format, then the whole link should show up and then they can be copied directly from your post:
Ron Paul's Convention Speech
I just updated my version of the email
Check it out above. I will be sending it out tonight.
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I totally forgot about this one
Thanks for catching it, great job! SPREAD IT!
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My Email Going Out Today
Do you want to know why Senators Obama and McCain want this "President Bush" sponsored bailout by the Federal Reserve so badly? The Senators might vote the “bailout bill” today (October 1, 2008)? Is it possible they are sticking this bill down the throats of the American people to save their political money machine contributors and don’t care about the average citizen?
If you believe we should not bail out company's that made bad business decisions, please give Congress a call today and let them hear your voice. The more Federal Reserve Notes (aka “money”) that go into circulation (MONEY WE DON"T HAVE), the higher prices of everything will come. It is a simple fact of monetary inflation. If you choose to sit on the sidelines, that is just fine. Just don't say no one warned you.
From http://www.opensecrets.or...
Barrack Obama:
Goldman Sachs $748,880
University of California $625,911
JPMorgan Chase & Co $493,469
Harvard University $473,669
Citigroup Inc $467,849
Google Inc $426,174
University of Chicago $424,539
UBS AG $423,045
Skadden, Arps et al $394,335
Lehman Brothers $393,324
National Amusements Inc $385,803
Microsoft Corp $380,735
Sidley Austin LLP $379,802
Kirkland & Ellis $376,164
Moveon.org $347,463
Morgan Stanley $341,320
Time Warner $338,677
Wilmerhale Llp $335,398
Exelon Corp $314,063
Latham & Watkins $299,650
http://www.opensecrets.or...
John McCain:
Merrill Lynch $306,813
Citigroup Inc $277,251
Goldman Sachs $234,345
Morgan Stanley $234,272
AT&T Inc $192,557
JPMorgan Chase & Co $185,325
Credit Suisse Group $165,575
Blank Rome LLP $155,326
Greenberg Traurig LLP $148,787
UBS AG $138,665
PricewaterhouseCoopers $138,320
US Government $137,842
Bank of America $133,975
FedEx Corp $123,953
Wachovia Corp $123,096
Pinnacle West Capital $123,050
Lehman Brothers $120,600
Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher $104,250
US Army $103,613
Bear Stearns $99,300
Obama voters:
1. Are you happy that Barrack voted to allow spying on your emails and phone calls (FISA)?
2. Are you worried that he will just move our troops from Iraq to Afghanistan and Iran?
McCain voters:
1. Are you comfortable with McCain's promises to slash government spending and lower your taxes?
2. Do you really believe he is a staunch supporter of the second amendment and the right to life?
The Third Party Candidates agree on the platform below. Have you checked into ALL of your options for President and not just the ones that have been gift wrapped for you by the mainstream media?
The four Third Party candidates agree on fixing the issues that are causing America to fall on her knees. The smoke and mirrors of who wears a flag pin on their lapel and how many houses a candidate has is just what they want you to focus on while missing the fact that both Obama and McCain are bedfellows with Bush.
Foreign Policy: The Iraq War must end as quickly as possible with removal of all our soldiers from the region. We must initiate the return of our soldiers from around the world, including Korea, Japan, Europe and the entire Middle East. We must cease the war propaganda, threats of a blockade and plans for attacks on Iran, nor should we re-ignite the cold war with Russia over Georgia. We must be willing to talk to all countries and offer friendship and trade and travel to all who are willing. We must take off the table the threat of a nuclear first strike against all nations.
Privacy: We must protect the privacy and civil liberties of all persons under US jurisdiction. We must repeal or radically change the Patriot Act, the Military Commissions Act, and the FISA legislation. We must reject the notion and practice of torture, eliminations of habeas corpus, secret tribunals, and secret prisons. We must deny immunity for corporations that spy willingly on the people for the benefit of the government. We must reject the unitary presidency, the illegal use of signing statements and excessive use of executive orders.
The National Debt: We believe that there should be no increase in the national debt. The burden of debt placed on the next generation is unjust and already threatening our economy and the value of our dollar. We must pay our bills as we go along and not unfairly place this burden on a future generation.
The Federal Reserve: We seek a thorough investigation, evaluation and audit of the Federal Reserve System and its cozy relationships with the banking, corporate, and other financial institutions. The arbitrary power to create money and credit out of thin air behind closed doors for the benefit of commercial interests must be ended. There should be no taxpayer bailouts of corporations and no corporate subsidies. Corporations should be aggressively prosecuted for their crimes and frauds.
Chuck Baldwin - Constitution Party Candidate - http://www.baldwin08.com/
Cynthia McKinney - Green Party Candidate - http://votetruth08.com/
Bob Barr - Libertarian Candidate - http://www.bobbarr2008.co...
Ralph Nader - Independent Party - http://www.votenader.org/
I hope you don't mind
but just copy/pasted this to a fairly large email group...
me too!
You DP'rs make our lives so easy! THANX!!!! Ginny in PA
great post
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Maybe we can get this info. to the Obama youth nazi squad...
by buying advertizing time between cartoon or MTV....ha...ha...ha.
Discover Costa Rica
;-)
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I think
keeping it simple and showing these donations is enough on that email. The two things you bring up with Obama hit home but the one's on McCain seem less clear. With this bailout going on, I would send the donations ASAP. I copied and sent to my email list.
my original idea ~
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Was to do educational emails...in my case...waking up my liberal friends.
It may be better to stay with a single theme per email, so as not to confuse or overwhelm them. In the future I would like to do single issue emails ~ one on civil liberties, another on gun control. etc.
I was hoping Michael could create a special section "library" of our specifically crafted letters that we could copy and send out, as needed.
Financial theme:
Expose the donors to these Congressmen;
Listen to the economists, not the politicians!
Other great open secret posts to add to the email you send out today:
On September 30th, 2008 LionandLambMinistry says:
The Royal Bank of Scotland gave nearly a quarter of a million dollars to Senator Dodd
Coincidentally, the Royal Bank of Scotland gave nearly a quarter of a million dollars to Senator Dodd, who is leading the bailout negotiations in the Senate.
Chris Dodd:
Top 5 Contributors, 2003-2008
Citigroup Inc - $314,694
SAC Capital Partners - $282,000
United Technologies - $263,400
Royal Bank of Scotland - $229,950
American International Group - $224,678
http://www.opensecrets.or...
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Update: Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac Invest in Lawmakers
No. 1 Chris Dodd $165,400
No. 2 Barack Obama $126,359
No. 3 John Kerry $111,000
....must see the whole list!
http://www.opensecrets.or...
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Harvard Economist: Bankruptcy, Not Bailout, is the right answer by Jeffrey A. Miron
Jeffrey A. Miron is senior lecturer in economics at Harvard University. A Libertarian, he was one of 166 academic economists who signed a letter to congressional leaders last week opposing the government bailout plan.
http://edition.cnn.com/20...
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Marx’s Proposal Number Five seems to be the leading motivation for those backing the Wall Street bailout
by Martin Masse
Great article: Bailout marks Karl Marx's comeback: The author discusses how the Austrian economists are right in this bailout crisis.
http://mises.org/Communit...
short version ~
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Money Web | OpenSecrets
This social networking tool—new to OpenSecrets.org for the '08 election—illustrates links between candidates and donors. Included in this web are the 5 top contributors and industries (including ties) to each of the candidates we profile. Click on a bubble to start making connections among candidates, their top-giving industries and top contributors.
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This is a fun and fascinating site. Follow the candidate's money. Ron Paul is very clean. Because of his stances against the Iraq War and regulation of the internet, he got donations primarily from tech workers and the armed forces (more than any other candidate, dem or rep). He also walks his talk...i.e. has no debt.
You will find this VERY interesting when you check out the other presidential candidates: Up to their eyeballs in investment banker donations.
http://www.opensecrets.or...
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Agreed, the figures speak volumes.
I am copying them with the simple statement "Ah ha, now we know why these 2 candidates AGREE and are IN FAVOR of bailing out the banks. I have no confidence and choose to make my vote count. On November 4th, we will vote 3rd party and hope that you do the same."
I thought of that
But what's to keep us from having many, many different iterations of this theme? Let's think in terms of the free market! Let the cream rise to the top for once, instead of the pond scum...;-)
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