FEAR MESSAGES ARE USED TO CONTROL YOU
The number of fear messages here has pretty much taken over all other discourse.
I am quite sure this thread will end quickly as it does not feed the terror, anger despair and helplessness that is the main diet of the media in general and this site in particular.
Watching Fox news is the basis for my point.
the media is used by those I power to control us to get what they want.
They want a collectivist principal to be followed.
This is proven out by the NAU and the EU and proposed African Union.
the 1929 crash was all scripted folks. FDR and his folks got the collectivist ball rolling in the US and this is just another step.
A FEAR MESSAGE is used to govern your emotions.
If you are frightened it is easy to get you to do WHAT THEY WANT.
This technique has been used for centuries by those is power and it has always worked.
The Daily Paul has slowly been turned into another media fear factory.
You are greeted with financial collapse, martial law, war, collectivism and despair.....just like Fox News.
I dare the contributors to this site to focus on a responsible discussion of the people who have hijacked the election in front of our eyes, lied about Dr. Paul a man who stands for Peace and seemingly, taken over the debate at the Daily Paul.
Honestly, the DOW industrial average is THEIR CASINO. They use it to their advantage...and from the tone of the posts here?
It is working.
When all about you is fear and despair, thine are the light of hope for strength cometh from heaven.
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Anyone seen They Live with Rowdy Roddy Piper?
It's a great conspiracy-theorist movie...with unique physical stuntwork.
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Did you know Piper has been in nearly 50 films?!
Ron Paul said the bailout would lead to world economic collapse
And I'm still not scared.
Just give me the truth...
I say ... Just tell me the TRUTH, and let me make my decisions from there.
It would be nice to focus
It would be nice to focus again on small pieces we could be taking part in locally. Like changing our Ron Paul meet ups and Campaign for Liberty meetups to expand an including self sufficient living. Or living within a Libertarian community etc..
That kind of think..I think the posts have to be sort of sensationalized just so people respond. ....just like the media..
You are probably right.
Bump
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While most of those on
Daily Paul are not falling for the financial scaremongering and it's predecessor...warmongering, many Americans are very afraid.
Those in power know exactly how to get the people to beg them to solve all their problems. The masses today are no longer self sufficient. They continually look to government to make it all better. Of course, as pointed out by tstorey they get plenty of help ginning up the fear from Fox, MSNBC, CNBC, etc.
Propaganda Technique Series - Topic #1 - Appeals to Fear - How to Apply
Appeals to Fear:
Usage: This is best used when something really is urgent, and people aren't responding. It's also very useful in cases where you have no logical argument that would appeal to the majority, so you need them to abandon reason and act quickly.*
Steps::
1.) Convince people that they or their interests are in immediate danger of some sort.:
- This cannot be an implied threat of something too far in the future, or they will lose interest.
- Remember also that this has to effect their lives directly, or most people will not care.
- If it is urgent, but they wouldn't understand or agree, then you may want to tweak the truth a bit to catch their interest.*
2.) Propose a solution to the problem that is causing this threat.:
- Make sure your solution benefits everyone in some way. They won't agree with a plan with no perks for very long.
- People do not like huge changes, so try to make it sound as familiar as possible, maybe speak of "good old days" and compare your proposed results to them.
- You, obviously, need not disclose every minor detail to everyone. Some things won't even be noticed after the fact, so it's not always the wisest thing to do to be completely honest.*
3.) Convince the people that this can be done.:
- This has to be (or seem like)* a viable option. You must present a plan and the resources to accomplish this plan. The majority of people will not follow a side that they think will lose.
- They must believe that this method will be effective. Your method can not only solve half of the problem. It has to be a big step, or else people will find it to be futile and not worth their time.
- When using the fear appeal, remind the people of those more vulnerable to this threat than they are. Everyone has a weaker (younger or elderly) friend or family member. If you do not mention these dependents, many people may ignore your cause because they feel as though they can handle it. When the more vulnerable are brought into the picture, they realize they might need to do something now, instead of waiting until the threat is at their door.
Remember kids, the fear appeal is never the most ethical tactic to use. However, it can prove the most useful in many situation, and it is certainly the most effective.
Keep an eye out for the next part in this series, "Propaganda Technique Series - Topic #1 - Appeals to Fear: Historical and Hypothetical Examples".
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LOL
This thread reads like it was birthed by professional disinfo agents
Fear, my ass.
JM
Everyone here knows what's up. Be afraid if you like, but the people on this site are the most informed people in the USA. I think pissed off would be a better way of looking at the posts on this site.
Your title scares me. And
Your title scares me. And your writing scares me. It feeds on my terror, anger, despair and helplessness.
Our economy is on the brink of collapse, and the Daily Paul is the one place that for over a year you could hear a group of people scream from the top of our lungs that change must come now! And now that it's too late for change we don't know what to do but scream louder (and hoard gold, silver, ammunition and food).
There are frightening things going on right now, let this be a place for free speech and let us vent our fears to others here. This is one place where I can value a stranger's opinion, because I know that at our core (soul, or whatever) we're similar. We might disagree on some stuff, but we're all in this same fight for liberty, peace and prosperity.
The fear displayed on this sight is not in an effort to control any reader. This is not FoxNews. We are intelligent enough to gather here. If something bothers someone, then take it as food for thought. Nobody here profits from invoking fear on others. This is just a difficult time to go through.
By the way, FDR was not President in 1929, I believe that was Calvin Coolidge. And if we decided to "focus on a responsible discussion of the people who have hijacked the election", that would invoke fear on people.
I don't own a tv. I quit watching it when we invaded Iraq because I too hated the propaganda machine that just rolled on while I was screaming "NO!!" from the sidelines. I feel as though there are a lot of people here who are similar. Maybe you should stop watching tv too.
Us Ron Paul supporters are upset with the world around us. We might worry about things and discuss them, but that should be natural for us. We don't like what's going on.
Please don't try to control us with your simplistic reasoning that we're being controlled by fear. We are smarter than that. We control the fear, and here is where we can all scream "NO!!" from the sidelines together.
Even if nobody else out there reads this, I feel a lot better :)
I think it is totally cool that you aren't afraid and
equally cool that you don't own a TV...you are an example to the rest of us.
Yeah, but, FDR was the guy who plugged in so much collectivist crapola which was my point.
I didn't know I had any control over you....I really don't seem to have much control over myself.
Best to all,
T
nice, thoughtful
thanks
In a positive light
I really think this may be the beginning of the end for the "evil genius."
Kind of like when Toto was pulling on the curtain.
All of their efforts are so transparent.
My God, Obama's principal adviser is Zbignew Brezinski (sp) the founder of the trilateral commission.
We know it.
They know it.
They do it anyway.
This has to be the "darkness is self destructive" principal in action.
God bless Dr.Paul.
They will fall without violence.
The house of cards has collapsed
NWO for Dummies
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
Wakey, wakey.
"There can be only one permanent revolution - a moral one: The regeneration of the inner man."
—Tolstoy
That's what's happening
It really is. I see it!!!!!!
The reality of fear
We operate in a narrow frequency range. The PTB understand this. They want you to operate in the lowest frequency range possible so they poison your water, air and food with drugs and chemicals. They get you infront of the boob tube. All TV frequency paterns are at a specific range that are disigned to keep you in a sleep state a zombie. They hit you with fear fear and more fear. This keeps you locked in place and easy to control. All main stream media is controlled by the CIA and Pentagon.They set up conflict to keep us divided. Democrates vs. Republicans. Us Vs. them. Drama drama drama. We are foolish monkeys. They want you to believe that all solutions come from outside yourself then they provide them. Once you understand that everything comes from within you, you will start to realize that the only one who can provide answers for you is you. That's what the PTB are afraid of. People are waking up unmass and that is why they are turning up the fear volume. The only true freedon is freedom from fear and you can obtain that yourself. You don't need Ron Paul and the CFL to achieve this.
Thank you friend.
-- Chuck Baldwin is closest to RP's message. --
I agree...we are so limited by a few sad arguments...
But no one responds to cheerful calls to action...
It's the brainwashing I tell ya!
Mike
"Fire Team for Freedom" and "Revolutionary Business"
visit www.mikeandjake.com
Fear will not help you
We may be on the brink of a financial disaster, but we may pull through, but:
Be prepared. Stock up on what you can. Be vigilant and ready for the worst and hope for the best... ( I am sure I plagiarized someone there!)
Just plan ahead and do all you can to be ready to survive if tshtf. Hey, if it turns out you didn't need those supplies in an emergency, you still have a lot of great items that are usable. But keep trying to increase your supply of needed items. It never hurts to have extra on hand.
One thing I am investing in for next year is a pressure canner. Do I think I really need one? I don't know, but I like the garden and if I am able to can the excess then it is a good investment. I may not need to can my own foods but I may as well have the capability. Those foods will be edible regardless of there being a crisis or not. I also am splitting the cost of purchasing and raising some pigs. I have 1 1/2 acres and figure I may as well raise some meat to put in the freezer. That meat will be good with or without a crisis.
Glad somebody else finally said it.
We seem to be generating the same fear the federal government generates. I'm all for our keeping each other informed (that's a wonderful thing; gotta be ready for anything). But a I think a steady diet of gloom & doom can be mighty counterproductive!
--Cliff
Sioux City, Iowa
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While Goering was talking
While Goering was talking about war, fear is fear.
"Why of course the people don't want war. Why should some poor slob on
a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of
it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people
don't want war neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in
Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the
country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to
drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist
dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no
voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders.
That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked,
and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the
country to danger. It works the same in any country."
Hermann Goering
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"No passion so effectually robs the mind
of all its powers of acting and reasoning as fear."
Quote by: Edmund Burke
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Pity the poor, wretched, timid soul, too faint hearted to resist his oppressors. He sings the songs of the damned, 'I cannot resist, I have too much to lose, they might take my property or confiscate my earnings, what would my family do, how would they survive?' He hides behind pretended family responsibility, failing to see that the most glorious legacy that we can bequeath to our posterity is liberty!
W. Vaughn Ellsworth
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"The great masses of the people ...
will more easily fall victims
to a big lie than
to a small one."
Quote by: Adolf Hitler
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"Do we desire to be cradled, and then carried throughout life
to our graves by this partisan propelled bureaucratic monstrosity? ...
as individuals of sovereign dignity, are we now so terrified,
bewildered, and impotent that our main purpose is to seek asylum from
the potential hazards of freedom? Have we no faith in our natural
strengths and abilities?"
Quote by: Sergei Hoff
Source: 'Our Fears and Denials Will Enslave Us' by Sergei Hoff, October 23, 2004
Litany against fear from
Litany against fear from Frank Herbert's 1965 novel Dune:
I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain.
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"Better to be flexible like bamboo than rigid like oak, for when the storm comes bamboo will bend and survive, where as oak will crack and die."
I was afraid of the dark.
Then I almost died in the 3rd grade when I was hit by a truck.
Every time the lights were turned out I wasn't in pain like I was when I had to recover from that accident, The dark didn't scare me after that.
When you realize hell doesn't exists fear becomes a precursor to figuring out a situation that causes you to hesitate. As appalling and evil as some people are and as nice as it would seem that they go to hell.
Then again that would be against Karma.
Give Me The Truth, Whatever It Is..........
I don't like fear mongering, either, but give me the TRUTH, whatever it is. I'm tired of people sugar coating and hiding what we need to know and be aware of (I'm talking about MSM, etc). I want to know WHAT IS, so I can make appropriate decisions, and then live knowing I've done all I can.
Marilyn in Lake Jackson To
Marilyn in Lake Jackson
To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven: Ecclesiastes 8:6
John Lennon's song Turn, Turn, Turn was based on this verse.
Great points... After all,
Great points... After all, if your a Christian and you and most of your neighbors own weapons, you have no fear of anything. I am one, and I fear no-one on this earth.
Tim
GOLD
good grip
GOOD call people you have a fine outlook . No use in the tear mongering it doesn't help anyway...Tommorow is another day ....
today has it's own troubles...AYE
weee
Fear is a poison which corrodes the soul...
Be like a farmer and turn bullshit into fertilizer.
I am sure there is a lot of stress out there and frustration. We have to use this to our advantage, throw it back at the enemy, don't absorb it or else it will get inside of you and eat you up.
grant
Thank you tstorey.
I have noticed people posting about their "bad days". If DPers can help fix a problem that's one thing, but to dump on us is another.
We're all going through tough times and to place your burden on the group, for no other reason than to get it off your chest, is inconsiderate.
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Lisa C.
Boston Tea Party
"Time to Party Like It's 1773!"
Charles Jay 2008.
Lisa, I'm happy to see you
Lisa, I'm happy to see you back on DP. Sometimes we just need your cool perspective. It was quite intense here last week.
Thanks Realdeal. That's why I decided to taks the week off.
Didn't stop chris from finding me though and sending me crazy YouTube videos.
: b
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Lisa C.
Boston Tea Party
"Time to Party Like It's 1773!"
Charles Jay 2008.
TStorey, you bring up a very good point
I have also become dismayed at how The DailyPaul has degenerated into a rude, name-calling, fearmongering forum. It used to be such a pleasure to come and dialogue with like-minded patriots. Not anymore.
What a shame and disappointment it must be for Michael Nystrom who has devoted so much time and effort to provide a venue for discourse.
At this point I have recognized which people are consistently negative and abusive, and I don't bother to read them anymore, though they are usually the ones who post most often.
That's right
We have to aproach this situation with love. We need to lovingly knock these politicians in the back of the head
Don't fear the fear! Have courage... stand tall!
Mike
"Fire Team for Freedom" and "Revolutionary Business"
visit www.mikeandjake.com
Great News! Bush says economy will "be just fine"!
"I believe that in the long run, this economy is going to be just fine," Bush said. In the short term, he said the Treasury Department must go about enacting its plan to buy up troubled assets from financial firms so that credit will start flowing again to consumers. "It's going to take awhile to restore confidence in the financial system," he said. "But one thing people can be certain of is that the bill I signed is a big step toward solving this problem."
All is well! All is well! I'm okay, you're okay!
Just another reason to prepare as fast as you can...
Be brave.
Like I said, fear is for fools, let the government and elite fear us.
grant
Pray for our enemies!!!
But who prays for Satan? Who, in eighteen centuries, has had the common humanity to pray for the one sinner that needed it most?
Mark Twain
In my experience
I will only speak for myself, but when i was done wrong by someone i prayed for them and eventually got justice in some form or another or something better happened for me. I know alot of people here may not be into prayer, but for those that do and are willing we do need to pray for those that are doing us harm all over the globe. Satanists or not. Remember the story of Job? It wasn't until Job prayed for others that HE was taken care of by God and delivered from his despair. For those that do pray, we need to remember to pray for our enemies and especially now, and more often!
Today God Granted Me the Sense to Vote Third Party!
Amen!
"Time for all good men and women to come to the aid of their country"
No fear here.
Fear is for fools, a tool of tyrants, wise men teach others and prepare for hard times.
grant
Nah!! Nothing lasts
Nah!! Nothing lasts forever. Change is inevitable and you just have to roll with the punches. The U.S. in the dumper due to corruption and the shenanigans of the Fed and willingness of the government to let them do it. One way or another this empire is crumbling. Is that bad? Kinda depends on us. This world could be plunged into a thousand years of darkness, or "We the People of these United States" can seize upon this as an opportunity to take our nation back and to rebuild it on the Constitution. To do that, we have to be prepared to resist the NWO. We have to expect and prepare for the worst while planning to rebuild our nation to the highest standards of freedom.
Pat
BOHICA!!
Praying to lift up fear
I was getting pretty spooked myself, I like this site, but sometimes the information does cause me some anxiety once in awhile. However I think i've been misguided my emotions, or rather taken over by them. I now use this information to open my eyes and plan better for the future. I plan on being more self-reliant, less focused on material things and even more so now, praying with my family on a daily basis. I even include prayers for our administration and the leaders of other countries such as China, Russia etc. After all weren't we told to pray for those that do us wrong? But I also know that martial law will be imposed if we do lose it and lose our civility. After all, weren't some of the greatest wins in the Bible done by non-violence, or rather non-fatal means? We have to remember this throughout the coming years and be aware, but not afraid. And above all pray for those that do us harm.
Today God Granted Me the Sense to Vote Third Party!
thank you, Americana
Sometimes when I come to this site, there is so much "doom and gloom" that I stay away for awhile. I like seeing comments like yours that make me feel hopeful, not despairing.
"Time for all good men and women to come to the aid of their country"
This is very good.
We are told to pray for our enemies - bless those who curse you; bless and do not curse. And we are also told not to repay evil for evil. Thanks for these reminders. We have the peace that passes all understanding and no matter what may occur in our time, we have the Lord on our side.
Well whatever..
Fear up here or not there isn't much GOOD news is there?
We are going down. I'm joining the free state project. http://freestateproject.o... .. it's a life raft it will end the power of the state, you guys can stay here and sink all you like.
I have no idea
how anyone can face the prospect of a New World Order with no faith in God. Ron Paul is very strong in his faith..that's why he can stand up to them and show NO FEAR.
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First...
By realizing that the NWO organizations have been using religion to attain their goals of fear and manipulation for a long, long time.
The "Born Again" sects were created for precisely that reason - using primarily the words of the Gnostic Paul as the basis for the entire religion. People no longer had to be a good or decent, you just had to accept the "knowledge" (translated = gnostic) that you only get to heaven through believing in Christ. (Not Jesus, Christ, Paul believed as leader of the Gnostics that a person could become "Christ-like") It is the levels of gnostic achievement that may be the basis for all the masonic societies and their membership levels.
The Book of Revelations was written in the late 1800's and commissioned by the big banking families to keep fear and lack of caring for the future. The current born-again leaders are key components in the NWO by alligning themselves with Israel and the neocon foreign policy. The Christian moral side-issues in elections have kept the electorate split for decades and nothing is ever done no matter which party is in power - they are just used every 4 years as propaganda. Need I go on?
Just a few beginning answers to your question. I have justified fear of the NWO and what is going to happen (Ron Paul tempers his remarks as well). But, my strength is provided by the liberty philosophy of the American Enlightenment of Thomas Paine, Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin.
"Sorry - I was born right the first time"
lmao... you are nothing more
lmao... you are nothing more then a fool!
"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson
I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain
You are wrong.
Paul was not a gnostic and he did not teach that all we needed was knowledge - in fact in Titus 1:16 Paul says that there would be those who profess to know God but deny him in their works. This is just one verse of many that illustrates that a faith that does not lead to good works is a dead faith, just as James tells us. As far as Revelation being written in the 1800s - I'm not sure where you got this from but it is absolutely false. Yes there are those that manipulate the Word of God to their own selfish gain, and yes it is even being used to seduce people AWAY from the one true God in favor of the satanic new world order, but that does not negate the validity of holy scripture. Everything you have written is false.
Nice
Yes, Paul was a Gnostic - actually one of the fournders of the Gnostics. Check out the history of the Gnostic faith and their writings (many from Paul himself) and also the Nazareans. A good book to start with is "The Jesus Mysteries" - it's pretty basic and even-handed.
If you don't know where I got the information about Revelations from, how can you say I am "absolutely false"? Where do you get your information that the Revelations was written by...? Oh, that's right, there is no known author. And of course, the Bible tells you it is true and cannot be questioned, so obviously it is an ancient script that no one has ever discovered yet was miraculously translated. Got it.
I agree, there are those that manipulate the Bible for selfish gain and to seduce people - although I won't limit that seduction to the NWO people. Also, you have to have validity in order for it to be negated. You have no valid claim for me to mess with in the first place. Too bad I don't believe in satanic cults either, then you might have an arguement.