RNC Recap: The End of America

if any lawsuits have been filed on the police and Sheriff of St. Paul?

This kind of heavy-handed police activity is going on not just in the US but UK and Europe as well. Freedom to protest has been curtailed considerably.

Under the control-freak Blair (someone oddly praised in the US by some for warmongering) protesting outside the House of Commons was banned. One man, Brian Haw, has led a one-man crusade by camping outside. That put Blair's draconian nonsense where it should be because the judges found in favour of Haw!

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throwing their bicycles at the crowds. Why not. They were already hitting people with them. A sad state of affairs we have here.

When the family members of these "peace officers" are brutally beaten by an oppressive government force. See how they like it. These guys make me sick, squashing free speech, and eroding the values of the nation.

This is all about the ruling elite, oppressing the working man through fiat money, interest, inflation and desecration of the Constitution. As far as I know, there are no rich police officers on the streets. They are not helping the cause of freedom.

Perhaps, one day, something will happen, to make them wake up.

"The Constitution was written not to regulate you in any way, the purpose of the Constitution is to restrain the government." Ron Paul.

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Fixed news just had a guest on who says if you check the treasury web site under financial reports, you will find the report from the fed that says, taking into consideration social security and such we have a debt of over 50 trillion that bush and his surrogates do not want us to know about.

Just wanted to say it's always a fine line as to just exactly what will trigger people to move. Myself, I've been itchin to move for at least 30 years, but itchin to move and setting off on a suicide mission are two separate things.(no, I'm not afraid of dying, just want it to be in pursuit of a reasonable goal.)
Gripe at me if you want, but anybody that thinks this is a free country is delusional. Therefor, I DON'T go to rallye's, the cops here are just as braindead as they are everywhere else. Kent state should've clued ya in.
One thing I find a little amusing is Jesse Ventura is contemplating running again, and I'd like to know if he's supposed to be good, why this could happen where he'd been governor?
While I haven't checked it out yet, it seems the slave uprising thing might be a pretty good opportunity.

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I forwarded this article to another. This is the reply I got back:

"I look at it as career hazard. You were in town....don't you remember how
out of control it was. It is hard for police officers to listen to one
person when hundreds are out of control. If people want to carry on the way
they did...they should accept the consequences. (there are only a few
reports of people getting swept up into the mess that were just in the wrong
place at the wrong time.)"

This deserves recognition for not looking away as real news unfolds............

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If I didn't love this country, my family, and the idea of Freedom and how important it is.

It's not to say that somedays I get so overwhelmed by all the heinous shit that goes down, I feel much of my actions are in vein. Its very depressing.

My wife tells me to stop trying to take on all the burdens of the world, because I'm already taking on so much in my own family, work etc, as all you great people are doing as well. I guess I just have a habit of caring too much for so many things.

Last weekend I put my remaining money reserves into Gold, and stocked up on supplies. $800 dollars worth. I also purchased ammo and a new rifle for hunting food.

This summer, I went through the delegation process for the first time, and fought to spread this amazing message of Liberty & real Freedom. I still do to this day.

Even the "crazy" predictions by many of you and Dr. Paul are coming true, which is making me look quite prophetic, but I obviously am not. I simply read, educate myself, and try to find the real facts.

I've mentioned much of the discussions that are going on the DailyPaul, only to be vindicated months later. Bailouts, failing economy... I even heard today on the radio some neo-con dummy spouting how terrorist chatter is spinning up to pre 9/11 levels.

Only because of this site and others that carry the true message, was I immediately able to see that this was just more fear mongering.

It felt like yet another attempt to distract us.

Giving up is easy. Its easy for all of us to just give up, and hope the next guy does the HARD work.

And there you have it... so many sheeple in this country have done just that. They revert back to their ways, their routines, only to find eventually that life as we know it has completely changed, outside of their heart, in material things only.

It is what is in the heart that we must get back to. I encourage everyone to NOT give up. To keep battling through.

In any case, I hope there are a few of you still out there that know Ron Paul is still our only guy for this election. Even if 'm the last one writing him in, so be it. Our job is to select the person who best supports and matches our principles, and fights for those principles. And therefore, it is you, Dr. Paul, for me.

God Bless all of you,

James

Don't let's forget the T-shirts sold by the Denver police as a souvenir of the DNC, mentioned here and here on DP. Both of those posts seemed to slip by without notice or comment.

Different convention, same attitude.

You know, in Social Studies, I'm teaching my kids about the people you find in a community. We're at the part where we discuss local "rescue heroes," and dang if my job isn't difficult. I want to be able to tell them that if they're ever in trouble, they can just turn to a local policeman for help...*sigh*...

I don't think the police acted because they were part of a conspiracy so much as they acted from their natures.

Figure that the extra police came voluntarily and were mostly Republican, thinking the disruptors were mostly Democrats, so they're adversarial already. They looked forward to all the special training and gear. Some of them are ex-military or wanna-be military. They want to impress the FBI and DHS guys who are briefing them. It's a really bad start.

Then, they have all the training and put on the gear and they're looking for danger. Meanwhile, the "intelligence" is all over blogs and websites looking at comments like "I'd like to shut down the convention," or "I could kill them" and all the over-the-top comments you get in such places.

It is really easy to start a war under these conditions.

I look forward to seeing a really great documentary on these events, because it is very, very difficult to tell this story in a sound bite.

IMissLiberty

It really is 'we the people' against tyranny.

I don't think even those who call themselves democratic socialists are totally blind to the danger we're in.

Most Americans want to live in a generally free country. The question is whether they will realize that America's status as a free country hangs by a thread before it all comes tumbling down.

"If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." -1984, George Orwell

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Just the way the police are armored is offensive. In a more perfect union, the police would be less armored and by default, more humane.

The more I love my guns.

action, then it has to make one wonder exactly "what" will get a definitive rise out of them.

Tyranny continues as long as it's profitable. It ceases only when it becomes unprofitable.

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"An economy built on fiat money is a society on its way to ashes."

I was not there but it looks like aggresive behaviored police, on the fun spree...Some people are policemen just to satisfy the tough guy routine legally....This is such a case when they turn on free citizens who are in a non-violent protest...
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I will generally say that I disagree with almosts every position the left takes. However, I will never disagree with the truth and Ms. Wolf's book tells the truth( Yes I read it). We can disagree later about the welfare state later if we still have that right. She is spot on on her interpretation of the move to a police state. Read her book, no lover of freedom will disagree with what she writes.

Roger Hermann
Chicago, IL

I tried to get my little county paper to interview us about the RNC - local delegates and all. They won't even respond.

Do you sit in the gallery because you are disinterested?

Is the seat on your side of the aisle comfortable?

By all means, don't rise.

Do not disturb those around you.

Do not interfer with the proceedings.

"We should not tolerate a packed jury which is to decide on the fate of a single man, but we are content to leave the life of the nation at the mercy of a packed convention."

--- James Russel Lowell

Carry On.................It's Us and Them

Michael and sempiternal, I would like to thank you for the posts. I live in Minnesota and am absolutely disgusted at what took place during the RNC. Unfortunately, it did not surprise me, as it was facist behavior, consistent with GOP leadership in our state.

I attended the R4R @ the Target Center, and then spent my 2 hr drive home, listening to the RNC on the radio. That was also a stark contrast.

I appreciate the time and effort in your posts. It is now your fault that I am still sitting in front of my computer @ 2:22 am, when I should have gone to bed long ago!

I wholeheartedly agree with your sentiments. There has been WAY too much in-fighting going on on these boards.

We need to remember what Dr. Paul says about collectivism.

Name-calling will get us nowhere.

Most the pictures do not even come close to telling the whole story.

I posted some of my photos in the following article, but it still does not explain the nightmare of being there; experiencing the police state from all directions, air, land, and sea - getting yelled at not to take photos.

Two Republican Conventions in 2008: An Eyewitness Contrast

Imagine you are viewing them in the following surroundings; yellow school bus loads of Army soldiers in riot gear, hiding out behind the St. Paul Cathedral, dump trucks parked in the middle of roads blocking off public bridges, camouflaged military humvees driving through town, city blocks and streets in the middle of downtown barricaded off with 8 foot high black steel gates guarded by federal agents with bomb sniffing dogs, a passenger train sitting empty on the tracks with engine running all day, U.S. Coast Guard boats with mounted machine guns patrolling up and down the Mississippi river running through the middle of town, police helicopters constantly circling overhead, long chains of rental vans packed with officers in black uniforms and body armor speeding up and down the streets and highways led and followed by police cars with sirens blaring, long lines of police officers in black with helmets and clubs, blocking off public areas.

In all seriousness, the RNC was a complete sham. Everyone attending was led to believe that all the force was necessary because of violent protesting, but most of the violence was a result of police aggression.

It was sickening to see oblivious republicans inside cheering on their false hopes, waving their little party hats and signs, while the city was locked down in a police state outside.

I did not mention this anywhere because I did not know how to explain it, but the RNC had hundreds of empty tour buses drive through the town, winding their way for many blocks through the streets coming into the convention center empty - they also left the convention center empty, except for a single police officer on each bus. This was on the first day. It really seemed like it was all for an illusion, either that, or they were doing a test run to see what would happen.

Another bizarre thing was a huge television screen set up between the capital and the convention center. The eerie thing was, that in front of this giant television, that was as large as a billboard, was only one or two people sitting on folding chairs - it was like something out of the Twilight Zone. It was playing PBS Frontline documentaries that were critical of the Bush administration. I suppose it was an attempt by the RNC to try to get protesters to watch TV? It must have cost a lot of money.

The whole time this was going on, the local media was claiming the RNC was going to cancel the convention due to storms.

Also, here are some very good professional photo and video collections that show both sides.

Must see:

Photos: http://www.startribune.co...

Videos: http://www.twincities.com...

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Ron Paul's Convention Speech

This battlefield has many fronts... determine how you can help the most and then do something about it. You have the Power to change a nation.

The left-right paradigm refers to the political ideologies of liberalism and conservatism. Empirically I have not observed your statement to be true.

There has been a very small number of individuals on here who have referred to themselves as conservatives. And I haven't seen anyone on here refer to themselves as liberal (except in the classical sense of the term).

The task of pro-liberty people (libertarians) should be to attack both of those ideologies. They both fall seriously short when it comes to the defense of liberty.