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Open Thread: Duopolistic "Presidential Debate" - Tonight 9pm ET

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Tune into Third Party Presidential Debate LIVE October 9 2008 9pm ET

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Second Party Candidates...

Let's see...

Like the last joint press conference on foreign policy and the economy, no mention of the Constitution (although there was a pretty placard on the set behind the War Party spear carriers that had the word "Constitution" on it), the republic, liberty, civil liberties (except for a reference by Obomba to civil liberties in Pakistan), inflation, Army Brigade "Homeland" Tours (new for this "debate"), 935 lies and falsehoods used to frame-up and engineer "war" and occupation of Iraq, and everyone's favorite ponzi scheme and mine, the "Federal Reserve" (was mentioned once by Obomba in passing describing a letter to Uncle Ben Bernanke).

Transcript: http://www.cnn.com/2008/P...

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Two party dictatorship

Obama: "President Bush did some smart things..." [with regard to his actions immediately after 9/11]

Says it all. Two party dictatorship...

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this...would be great...

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:: my fantasy ::

could you imagine a youtube with Brokaw throwing out his questions, and, although he would obviously not be in present time...

...Ron Paul could just be sitting in a chair...and answering Tom!

We could make the video go viral and show everyone how a Real President would handle these situations!

That would be AWESOME! What a great idea. Have it set up that

~you would here McObama's answers and then Baldwin's.
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"It is your duty as loyal Americans to Shut up."– Bill O'Reily

That WOULD be great...

...but since RP isn't running any longer, maybe one of the 2nd party candidates could do it?

http://groups.yahoo.com/g...

Look at drudge headline

It says "Boring"

lol :)

what is amazing to me....i

what is amazing to me....i saw a poll 59% want everyone out of washington but then the majority of the 59% will vote for one of these clowns. They want change and not change their votes, then when soemone like Baldwin is an option they say "i dont want to waiste my vote"
If we are going to be this stupid I guess we deserve whats coming...

Except for the "we" part

I'm convinced most people know just exactly how socialistic Obama is, and that is exactly what they want.

AND, that is only going to get worse. "Waking the people up" is a dead concept, and I just laughed at Naomi Wolfe's tirade. How pathetic is that?

http://www.cafepress.com/...

they're all bumming over at redstate ~

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hehe. I had to sneak a peek at their commentary. McAmnesty totally let them down. They've already conceded the election!

The 2nd Debate Open Thread
http://www.redstate.com/d...

McWar had good advice given to him for days by talk show hosts, but the guy was totally feckless.

This debate is making me sick!

Both of these guys Obama & McCain, will make things worse. That's about all I have to say.
It's going to be a looonngg winter (eight yrs?)
God have mercy on us!

Holy crap

He just called for a blockade of Iran to deprive them of gas and refined petroleum products and then finished by talking about military options on the table. Wow, just wow, stunning ignorance and arrogance, just stunning

"Far flung yet

faithful friends". I like that.

Code word - Investments =

Code word - Investments = print and spend

We're gonna spend FRNs by the crapload and buy bitchin new energy stuff, and it'll be like the Internet and computer in generating new fake wealth for everybody.

Finally, somebody figured out that to solve the global currency and banking collapse we just need to print and spend more money. Hooray!! We're all saved by buying batteries and building hydrogen fuel cells or windmills or whatever.

Why didn't anyone else think of that?

This debate is a joke

I wanna hear some solutions...

- Reduce Military Spending by 50%
- Kill the Patriot Act
- Reduce Taxes
- Kill the Federal Reserve
- No donations by companies or lobbyists
- Tax Imports

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Stock up, it's gonna be a long winter.

Dodgeball on the Economy

All I hear is two babbling idiots! No straight answers on ANY of the economy questions! I don't even know why I waste my time listening to this farce!

Brokaw: How do you fix too

Brokaw: How do you fix too much debt and too much credit?

O: Washington needs to spend money? And soak the rich? Really, after weeks of nothing else on the news, this is all he's got? Who the hell are his handlers that can't prep him better than that?

RIDICULOUS and insulting!

M: No new taxes, cut a few earmarks, I can't pronounce Hoover. Jobs are going away, my friends.

Condescending bastard. This addresses the issue how exactly?

I was

just thinking. Why on earth would anyone want to be President? Do these two know what they are going to be faced with? Is it worth it?

Yeah, I`d rather walk through hell with a pair of kerosene

HYDROMAN
soaked drawers on.

LOL!

" the important thing is to never stop questioning, curiousity, has it's own reason for existing..
Albert Einstien

During dinner I commented to

During dinner I commented to my wife that someplace Hillary is laughing her ass off that one of these losers looks to be inheriting the smoldering ruins of the global ponzi scheme.

taken care of

They are taken care of for LIFE no matter how bad they screw us up

* Businesses take out a loans to make payroll? *

WTF?

* Businesses take out a loans to make payroll? *

WTF?

Reminds me of Steve Martin and his book: "How I turned a million in real estate into $25 cash!"

Who Governs the Governless?

Yes #1 in the rules for business management, NEVER make a loan

HYDROMAN
for payroll.

McCain looks like a walking

McCain looks like a walking zombie. He is losing his thoughts in midstream. Wow, not looking good for him.

Even if he was good at this

Even if he was good at this he'd lose. The Democrats are hardly what I'd call in great shape, politically, but even they can beat the Republicans next month.

The chickens have come home to roost for the GOP. Good riddance, lying bastards. I hope they lose fifty seats.

SUPPORT OUR FOUNDERS' AMERICA
Support the Constitution of the United States

Oh Yeah

a commission to fix Medicare!!!! These people are idiots.

America is Broke

and these two midgets are clueless about it. They are promising handouts and doubling the peace corp.

why?

for what god for saken reason shoudl we do that? Why spend money on anything???

why can't they just say we need to cut the govt. by 80% tomorrow. WHY???

WHY??? WHY??? WHY??? WHY??? WHY??? WHY??? WHY??? WHY??? WHY??? WHY??? WHY??? WHY??? WHY??? WHY???

Why can't these mother fuckers not do the right thing. What is so fucking hard??!!!

i am going to break my TV. I can't stand this!!!

Breaking the TV - excellent idea!

Better yet, shoot it and put it completely out of its misery (and yours)...

http://groups.yahoo.com/g...

i'm voting for chuck

if chuck isn't on my ballot, then nader.

but most likely obama will win. i'm almost more comfortable with mccain because of this: it would be a deadlocked presidency and not too much would happen politically. he is also a known enemy.

i'm very very afraid of the NWO's manchurian candidate, obama. he will sell the U.S. the NWO. Mark my words!

Same here--either Chuck

Same here--either Chuck Baldwin or Nader.

Both McCain and Obama are potentially dangerous, but also, both would suffer on a teetering throne. Both will be under constant fire from the economy.

SUPPORT OUR FOUNDERS' AMERICA
Support the Constitution of the United States

Yep, the manchurian

Yep, the manchurian candidate is going to make serious in roads for the globalists. Vote any way you like, but thats what were getting.

I heard an investigative journalist was detained in Kenya because he was looking for the real birth certificate of Obama.

Jerome Corsi

They never

answer the questions. They just talk in circles. I haven't heard one way they are going to get us out of this mess.

they never will , becasue they have no solutions

~Mikael / Peace, love, Light and unity ~

oh, they have solutions

but do you really think that saying "well, we plan to fold America into the New World Order on a new regionally centralized currency and having more global taxes" would work?

p.s. "oh, and you'll have less civil liberties and choice also"

oh, they have solutions

but do you really think that saying "well, we plan to fold America into the New World Order on a new regionally centralized currency and having more global taxes" would work?

p.s. "oh, and you'll have less civil liberties and choice also"

where the hell

did they find these mutants asking the questions?

You hear this crap?

He now wants to Treasury to hold the mortgage on your home. Socialism abounds...

Watch McCain as he walks across the floor.

JM
Remember how Fred Sanford walks? McCain has got it nailed.

Ron Paul supporter just called in

but sadly he made himself sound like an idiot , He wasgoingon about how the bailout was a joke and then yelled into the phone "vote Ron Paul !! "

But it was silly since he's not running anymore.

~Mikael / Peace, love, Light and unity ~

Whoever this old guy is talking about the debates is a bonehead

He iust said Mccain and Obama represent every american ? since when ?
~Mikael / Peace, love, Light and unity ~

They actually represent 0%

They actually represent 0% of the american people. The 1% they do represent are globalists that hold NO loyalty to this country.

End the FEd Conference 9pm EST

Anyone who wantst to talk about action ending the fed go to this thread:
http://www.dailypaul.com/...

I hate Bush,

And McCain is Bush Jr. I hope Obama crushes him.

Obviously, Ron Paul is the best candidate but the American people have not yet felt the pain of following the "one party system" yet.

After, the economy totally fails, then people will realize what Ron Paul has been talking about. Only then, will the sheeple listen and learn.

"The Constitution was written not to regulate you in any way, the purpose of the Constitution is to restrain the government." Ron Paul.

http://hk.youtube.com/wat...

I'm afraid you will be eating those words

after Obama crushes him and I believe he will.

Did you watch the Hannity special Obama & Friends. I cannot hope your hope because of who Obama is. I have to hope that someone finally gets smart and unites the third parties behind one person and we all vote someone else in.

.... The closest I've come

.... The closest I've come to watching one of this farce debates was to watch the live stream of Bob Barr critique the farcey debate. And that was too much of it. You all act like you know whats going on but you stay tuned into their farce like what they say means anything.

I'll be watching Nader talk about the farce AFTER it, thank goodness. There's a link in this block to the live stream at 11pm.

http://www.votenader.org/...

psst...any truth to the rumour that Nader would appoint

Ron Paul to Sec of Treasury?- Didnt find it handily on his sight although the front page has a picture of him with RP.

Live Free or Diebold

I think the rumor started

I think the rumor started here, infact I think I commented on the post that talked about that very thing. It would be nice to hear what Nader has to say about that, and also to actually see Nader DEBATE for once. I hope he accepts the invitations to the real debates with all the candidates. If he doesnt it could be because of scheduling conflicts since he is hitting a bunch of townhalls and colleges in the home stretch of the election. That guy is a Machine!! and it dont stop.

btw, i'm not official or anything with Naders campaign, so dont take what I say to mean more then what a fan of Nader would say.