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Can we move forward without a foothold on the past?

Now lets dig at some long-held "truisms."

I doubt that those who call themselves Americans today will really resonate with this label in 20 years - but for the sake of the argument, let us examine our common history as Americans, and so ostensibly, what we are trying to defend by labeling ourselves, "Constitutionalists."

"The U.S. is the greatest and most free society the world has ever known."

No, it is not. For instance, there was a much more free society that lived on this continent before "us" Europeans started colonizing 300 years ago. These nations that were eradicated by "the greatest country ever" were more economically free, religiously free, and individually free than anything Europeans have come close to since. Were these nations completely without violence or stupidity every single day of every single year? No. But these people fit the definition of "It ain't a perfect system but it's the best one come up with so far" better than the United States ever has. And just as those people's social integrity did not prevent their societies from failing, all the technology and innovation of Americans did not keep our society from failing. The same elites have used the blind European serfs to destroy BOTH civilizations. The former from outside, the latter from implosion 150 years later.

"The U.S. greatness is due to a free economy, which is evidenced by the most wealthy country the world has ever known."

This is a horrible distortion of history in order for the masses (us?) to feel self-secure, again.

This country was MADE into the lone world super-power. Study the last 100 years of U.S.'s rise to superpower status. Up to that point, 125 years of a "free, constitutional economy" did not translate into a far better standard of living for the general public than the _entire_ rest of the world. this country was USED and MADE INTO a great superpower to accomplish the goals of the international elites that we DPers basically despise today. (I am not a fan of "modern" civilization. I see a lot of technology and a lot of people and a lot of poverty. "A little out of balance," to describe the modern world is quite an understatement, IMO. But i'm quite an optimist for some reason anyway? A cautious and highly skeptical optimist, though.)

The great wealth of this country came from exploiting the travesties of WWI and WWII, where the international elites destroyed Europe in order to phase in their new world order. They used the untouched U.S. as the engine to rebuild Europe in their revised image. Then, they used this wealth to EXPLOIT every single poor country they could (all of them), its people, and its resources. THAT is why American's have enjoyed such a disproportionately greater standard-of-living than their brothers and sisters around the world. This "high standard of living" was the CRUMBS thrown down to us plebes in order to distract us from the real agenda. "Refrigerators for all! What a great free country!" These crumbs were nothing but hush money, as "they" went about re-making the world, and then the U.S. itself over the last 30 years, into the image they had planned all along. They created the U.S. superpower, and the Soviet superpower, as means to ends for this "Great Work." They then destroyed the Soviet Union, and 20 years later, our Union has all but collapsed.

Today, we Paulites and so-forth are drawn together b/c we all live in the same country - but do we all live in the same "country?" Follow me here: No, we do not live in the same "country," as we think of it, we were never supposed to according to the Constitution. Almost every important governance of our day-to-day lives should come from the individual States at the very highest. "We" were tricked into giving up this ideal through the abolishion of slavery and other "false flags" such as Brown v. Board of Education. YES! Where the masses TRUE morality was used AGAINST them for the means of this so-called "Great Work." Inch-by-inch this is allowed to happen (the Fabian approach). And how? I can explain it.

These following short-comings are easily exposed to get wise thinking and action to take a back seat: One mistake, because many people cling to a false belief that religion leads to morality, particularly THEIR religion, whether it is Christianity or "New-Age" or Athiesm. Or second, people think that laws lead to morality, particularly the laws that enforce THEIR idea of morality. Other times, people think that economics can lead to morality, particularly those who have "made it" in this system of manufactured scarcity. This is the manipulation of causality that we see everywhere in our age of darkness. The Big Bang Theory of "The Religion of Science" today shows how readily ignorant men conjure up cause-and-effect falsities. To wit, there is NO evidence for the Big Bang, as there is NO evidence that Americans were ever "free." (google plasma cosmology, refs if you ask) True humane morality is the only thing that leads to good religion, good laws, and good science. Funny thing is, freedom and a moral world go hand-in-hand. I purport that the moral world comes after the people's choice for freedom. I would also say that perhaps some people's have the "choice" for a dictatorship. . . how about that debate?

So this is the end, folks. The internet is still here, but our government, what was left of it, is now defunct. The economy, whatever charades have been holding it from this collapse, is now defunct. Let us remember what we hold dear, let us be moral and just people, but also let us not be deluded by a past that really didn't exist. Let us continue to build our understanding. Most importantly, let us commit to acting with integrity or not at all, and not be in a rush to just "ACT!" Let us commit to gaining and acting with TRUE spiritual wisdom in all of our dealings. For starters, ruminating endlessly about our Federal Gov't or a collapsing economy is probably the least productive use of our time - but just remember the context in which you are living today. We have the internet and our ideologies, but these don't just pay our bills or feed our families. Many people around us have a long way to change if we are to live in a functional society again.

We have all the time in the world - do not be fooled into thinking that time is short. This is fear talking. Our gov't is gone, our economy is gone, but we are still here to hopefully continue to build our communities. You have plenty of time to act with wisdom until you are dead, and then, you don't have anything to worry about any more. Please, take what you will out of my suggestions, and have fun!

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The Constitution and Decl of Ind are amazing documents,

The Constitution and DOI are really amazing documents. The problems is that, as with Marxist doctrine, it was never really intended to be followed. See what I'm saying? For many reasons, a valid manifestation of those principals was probably not even possible until today. A couple of these being a more-educated population, and much better communication across distances.

However today we also have a more indoctrinated population, a much more pervasive "mainstream media," and absolutely rampant materialism (an economy run on consumerism, which is he only way anyone seems to know how to do it anymore). So success is still rather unlikely, at least from the point of view that so many people currently see it, as in political reform or legal reform or economic reform.

Only when it becomes obvious to the masses that what has really been missing is this "morality," which includes a LOT of personal responsibility that the masses are relatively incapable of at the very present, can the Constitution really be "enforced." So sound economics meets morality through the abandonment of consumerism and the result is. . . ??

Many Americans over the last centuries had incredible understanding of the Constitution, and did their best to stand for it on principal - however industrialized society created a situation where still relatively few people had a good understanding of the documents' importance.

Even that 8th grader test that was going around; were there questions about the state and federal constitution? How much of the history being taught and _tested_ on then was "brain-washing." How world affairs are framed at that young age has quite an impact on a person's worldview, we can imagine. The censorships that we see today existed in history and science books today existed then; and what was the real proportion of children in the U.S. receiving that kind of education?

And we get into the debates about should only land-owners and businessmen, who have the education and incentive to understand political issues, have the right to vote. From this point of view you can see how very well-meaning Freedomists of the old days knew that the laboring masses are easily swayed with emotion. This is the heart of the difficulty of real solutions to our current problem.

In addition, Maslow's Heirarchy suggests that when people are daily-consumed with the first couple of rungs, they are almost incapable of understanding anything higher on the ladder - these are the rungs that the Constitution and the DOI are speaking about to large extent.

40-50 years ago, there was a lower standard of living for Americans in general, but it was also more equal in many ways across the strata. The rich certainly have gotten richer, and the poor have certainly gotten poorer. But before fiat money took control of our society, it was actually much easier for people on lower strata of the economic chain to still have the lower rungs of Maslow's hierarchy secure. What I'm pointing at here is that in today's United States there are 10s of millions and more clinging to survival b/c of manufactured scarcity in our industrial and banking sectors (planned obsolescence and fiat money), and another 100 million not far above them. These people cannot be expected to understand "constitutional, spiritual morality" in the proper way when the deck is clearly stacked against them to begin with. I can't blame "them." A hope of college someday just does not feed your family, and if you are hungry you can easily justify stealing. These people actually understand the power-mongers in D.C. way better than the middle class. They know that you take what you can get when you can get it 'cause if you don't someone else will. The "moral" segment of the population cannot imagine how incredibly corrupt government is. By the time it has been shoved down their throat, they are gagging on their ignorance.

Is the solution to abolish the FED? Perhaps. But do you notice how a couple hundred million people out there are just praying the government will just fix things right now? This is the opposite of morality, and this is where it has brought us. And we know as long as these 100s of millions keep trusting in their government to fix these problems, the PTB might abolish the FED, but they're going to replace it with something bigger and worse! We know this is the likely scenario at this point, though I deeply wish it wasn't.

See, you can explain why the FED is bad, but as long as people are living in the same general, materialistic mind-set they have been for 30 years, no meaningful or lasting change will take place. If you can explain to someone why personal responsibility, and living responsibly with our jobs and our factories and our food is a moral imperative, then I believe that meaningful and lasting change is inevitable.

Unfortunately the NWO are one step ahead. They are laughingly financing the materialism and deliberately creating tons of pollution and promoting an idea of "See, when people are allowed to do what they want, they destroy the Earth. Now we all can see why a big shhhhh oppressive government is necessary." Only through a solid philosophic and moral understanding by many more people will people see through both the limitations of our current system AND the travesty of an oppressive global government.

It is difficult for me to continue my ideas without speaking of the history of the Americans that were here before the Europeans. I'm going to hold off on that right now except to say that our Constitution was actually based on the system of the Iroquois Federation (not hard to research). Another myth is that the founding fathers modeled their system after some Greek and Roman ideas. No. In fact the Constitution is almost identical to the construct of the Iroquois Federation, except with some loopholes which - intentionally or unintentionally - enabled all of the ensuing corruption and fascism since.

The solutions, in my understanding, are ahead of us. . . Our power is in "the Now."

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less practical than solar street lights, more practical

than NWO religion goals.

enjoy

So, just where do you propose we start?

Other than to be moral and just people, are you suggesting we shouldn't try to go back to the Constitution as are basis but instead create something new? I am just not getting exactly what you are suggesting here. Were not the Constitution and Declaration founded on moral and just grounds? Our constitutional form of government, even though flagrantly ignored at this point in time, still seems to represent that which is just and should hardly be thrown out...simply because the economy is collapsing and as you stated "our union" has all but collapsed.

The Constitution and DOI are

The Constitution and DOI are really amazing documents. The problems is that, as with Marxist doctrine, it was never really intended to be followed. See what I'm saying? For many reasons, a valid manifestation of those principals was probably not even possible until today. A couple of these being a more-educated population, and much better communication across distances.

However today we also have a more indoctrinated population, a much more pervasive "mainstream media," and absolutely rampant materialism (an economy run on consumerism, which is he only way anyone seems to know how to do it anymore). So success is still rather unlikely, at least from the point of view that most people see it, as in political reform or legal reform.

Only when it becomes obvious to the masses that what has really been missing is morality, which includes a LOT of personal responsibility that the masses are relatively incapable of at the very present, can the Constitution really be enforced. So sound economics meets morality through the abandonment of consumerism and the result is. . . ??

Many Americans over the last centuries had incredible understanding of the Constitution, and did their best to stand for it on principal - however industrialized society created a situation where still relatively few people had a good understanding of the document's importance. We get into the debates about should only land-owners and businessmen, who have the education and incentive to understand political issues, have the right to vote. From this point of view you can see how very well-meaning Freedomists of the old days knew that the laboring masses are easily swayed with emotion. This is the heart of the difficulty of real solutions to our current problem.

In addition, Maslow's Heirarchy suggests that when people are daily-consumed with the first couple of rungs, they are almost incapable of understanding anything higher on the ladder - these are the rungs that the Constitution and the DOI are speaking about to large extent.

40-50 years ago, there was a lower standard of living for Americans in general, but it was also more equal in many ways across the strata. The rich certainly have gotten richer, and the poor have certainly gotten poorer. But before fiat money took control of our society, it was actually much easier for people on lower strata of the economic chain to still have the lower rungs of t Maslow's hierarchy secure. What I'm pointing at here is that in today's United States there are 10s of millions and more clinging to survival b/c of manufactured scarcity in our industrial and banking sectors (planned obsolescence and fiat money), and another 100 million not far above them. These people cannot be expected to understand morality in the proper way. I cannot blame them. A hope of college someday just does not feed your family, and if you are hungry you can easily justify stealing. These people actually understand the power-mongers in D.C. way better than the middle class. They know that you take what you can get when you can get it 'cause if you don't someone else will. The "moral" segment of the population cannot imagine how incredibly corrupt government is. By the time it has been shoved down their throat, they are gagging on their ignorance.

Is the solution to abolish the FED? Perhaps. But do you notice how a couple hundred million people out there are just praying the government will just fix things right now? This is the opposite of morality, and this is where it has brought us. And we know as long as these 100s of millions keep trusting in their government to fix these problems, the might abolish the FED, but they're going to replace it with something bigger and worse! We know this is the likely scenario at this point, though I deeply wish it wasn't.

See, you can explain why the FED is bad, but as long as people are living in the same general mind-set they have been for 30 years, no meaningful or lasting change will take place. If you can explain to someone why personal responsibility, and living responsibly with our jobs and our factories and our food is a moral imperative, then I believe that meaningful and lasting change is inevitable.

Unfortunately the NWO are one step ahead. They are creating tons of pollution and promoting an idea of "See, when people are allowed to do what they want, they destroy the Earth. Now we all can see why a big oppressive government is necessary." Only through a solid philosophic and moral understanding by many more people will people see through both the limitations of our current system AND the travesty of an oppressive global government.

It is difficult for me to continue my ideas without speaking of the history of the Americans that were here before the Europeans. I'm going to hold off on that right now except to say that our Constitution was actually based on the system of the Iroquois federation. Another myth is that the founding fathers modeled their system after some Greek and Roman ideas. No. In fact the Constitution is almost identical to the construct of the Iroquois Federation, except with some loopholes which enabled all of the ensuing corruption and fascism since.

Great Read

And absolutely correct. Your last paragraph puts me at peace.

I spent the last year hoping

I spent the last year hoping that this would not be relevant, that the self-evident and sad truth of the past might be covered up by the beginning of a prosperous future.

But with the ensuing collapse of our country, and the unsure foothold of the CFL, I think these thoughts are well worth taking into consideration.

gratuitous evening bump

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