The Primary Precondition of Deflation
By Robert Prechter, CMT | Elliott Wave International
The following was adapted from Bob Prechter’s 2002 New York Times and Amazon best seller, Conquer the Crash – You Can Survive and Prosper in a Deflationary Depression.
Deflation requires a precondition: a major societal buildup in the extension of credit (and its flip side, the assumption of debt). Austrian economists Ludwig von Mises and Friedrich Hayek warned of the consequences of credit expansion, as have a handful of other economists, who today are mostly ignored. Bank credit and Elliott wave expert Hamilton Bolton, in a 1957 letter, summarized his observations this way:
In reading a history of major depressions in the U.S. from 1830 on, I was impressed with the following:
- All were set off by a deflation of excess credit. This was the one factor in common.
- Sometimes the excess-of-credit situation seemed to last years before the bubble broke.
- Some outside event, such as a major failure, brought the thing to a head, but the signs were visible many months, and in some cases years, in advance.
- None was ever quite like the last, so that the public was always fooled thereby.
- Some panics occurred under great government surpluses of revenue (1837, for instance) and some under great government deficits.
- Credit is credit, whether non-self-liquidating or self-liquidating.
- Deflation of non-self-liquidating credit usually produces the greater slumps.
Self-liquidating credit is a loan that is paid back, with interest, in a moderately short time from production. Production facilitated by the loan – for business start-up or expansion, for example – generates the financial return that makes repayment possible. The full transaction adds value to the economy.
Non-self-liquidating credit is a loan that is not tied to production and tends to stay in the system. When financial institutions lend for consumer purchases such as cars, boats or homes, or for speculations such as the purchase of stock certificates, no production effort is tied to the loan. Interest payments on such loans stress some other source of income. Contrary to nearly ubiquitous belief, such lending is almost always counter-productive; it adds costs to the economy, not value. If someone needs a cheap car to get to work, then a loan to buy it adds value to the economy; if someone wants a new SUV to consume, then a loan to buy it does not add value to the economy. Advocates claim that such loans "stimulate production," but they ignore the cost of the required debt service, which burdens production. They also ignore the subtle deterioration in the quality of spending choices due to the shift of buying power from people who have demonstrated a superior ability to invest or produce (creditors) to those who have demonstrated primarily a superior ability to consume (debtors).
Near the end of a major expansion, few creditors expect default, which is why they lend freely to weak borrowers. Few borrowers expect their fortunes to change, which is why they borrow freely. Deflation involves a substantial amount of involuntary debt liquidation because almost no one expects deflation before it starts.
For more on deflation, including the following topics, see Elliott Wave International’s free guide to deflation, inflation, money, credit and debt. There, you can also download two free chapters from Conquer the Crash.
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Robert Prechter, Certified Market Technician, is the founder and CEO of Elliott Wave International, author of Wall Street best sellers Conquer the Crash and Elliott Wave Principle and editor of The Elliott Wave Theorist monthly market letter since 1979.
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"debt is really a 'dollar short' position"
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." Benjamin Franklin
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Inflate Or Financial Tsunami by JayTaylor
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In the article, Jay Taylor wrote,
If there's going to be biflation, how do we protect ourselves?
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"We will never give up. We will never give in." - Dr. Ron Paul
Deflation then Inflation
There is a sequence here as well.
During a period of time (now) when people with leveraged investments are forced to sell low to get cash to meet debt obligations, we will see prices of valuable sellable things go down. We will also see the exchange rate of the dollar go UP vs. other currencies because dollars are demanded.
When that runs its course, it will suddenly reverse.
The new buyers of assets who purchased at bargain prices will see the "value" of their assets increase as other people with cash bid prices up.
Also, as Euro debt-payers panic in their turn and need to buy Euros, dollars will be sold at lower exchange rates.
Watch the Fed pump money into the system madly during the first phase thus lighting a big bonfire under the second phase -- during which they will profess to be surprised at the violence of the price inflationary response.
First prices will go down and companies will go broke. Then prices will go up and inflationary psychology will make it increasingly worse. (People will spend their money faster, speeding up the hot potato game.)
Of course the biflation will also always be a factor. Austrian economics teaches that the effects of credit expansion are always ragged and uneven. It depends on where the new money goes.
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liberty yields harmony; tyrany yields chaos
If the Fed prints money
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." Benjamin Franklin
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in the forest during a credit crisis and no one is there to pick it up, does it cause inflation or can it even stop the credit crisis?
Ron Paul said it!!! an
Ron Paul said it!!! an inflationary depression... I think Ron Is right!
"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson
I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain
that's down the road. we're
that's down the road.
we're contracting right now. liquidating.
everything that can be bought and sold, will be bought and sold for less.
some by large amounts, some by tiny amounts. a few things might go up, but most is going down.
it all amounts to a contraction, and it's been happening since late 2007. Even if it all doesn't happen at once, for example the last ditch effort to salvage insane amounts of leveraging ...people jumped to commodities which for several months spike the prices there....
but it's all coming down.
some a little, some a lot.
not sure how long. but at some point we'll bottom and
THEN
when people are ready to start rolling, we'll stay depressed because inflation will be haunting are every move....
SIERRAHPBT : Read Read Read Bob Prechter
SIERRAHPBT, by definition, I repeat, by definition, a depression is a prolonged recession! Dr.Paul knows this but perhaps you do not. Historically, the average US recession lasts 6 month, while the average worldwide recession lasts 16 months.
That said, and depending on when you want to put the official start date of the recession, by definition, we are not in a depression, at least not yet. The Great Depression is often times confused with deflation. Deflation is what we are experiencing at this time. The fact that the price of gasoline has dropped, but food has not, is a function of the futures grain markets. Although grains have dropped in price recently, this has not yet been reflected in consumer prices. Grains must be grown, harvested, sold to the chicken farmer that sell eggs to the consumer before there is a price reflection at the supermarket.
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Bernake and others have
Bernake and others have already PROMISED to not allow deflation. They will keep throwing all the money they can print at the problem because they are convinced that deflation is so much worse.
You can see how much they already threw at it, just wait and see how much more....
oh well if they PROMISED, we should be fine
They always make good on promises. ;}
Don't bank on deflation
Deflation can always be stopped by a central bank with plenary control of fiat currency - they can just drop money from helicopters. So sayeth Bernanke.
It's funny
During my freshman year at UNC I took economics 101 and in my textbook, on a chapter title page, was a drawing of suited men dropping money out of a helicopter under the heading "Chapter X: The Federal Reserve."
How's that working so far?
The fed/government are just players in the market. Big players, yes, but still just players. The market can be manipulated for a short period of time, but the market always wins.
We will see how Mr. Bernanke's experiment to validate his Ph.D thesis goes.
He got an "A" on the paper thesis... and we'll get "F'd" by his
experiment.
yikes!
if my understanding is correct, austrian economics basically says the market is like gravity, it has it's own natural force that MUST be accomodated. keynesian economics states that markets can be manipulated and controlled.
the former is bieng expressed, and the latter is pulling out all the stops. to save it's own hide.
if this is correct....we are in for a wild ride!!!
" the important thing is to never stop questioning, curiousity, has it's own reason for existing..
Albert Einstien
Money is water; Water seeks its own level
They can build dams at great expense, but they can't ignore the law.
IMissLiberty
+1
Very nicely put. :) Physics always wins!
that's a wonderful way to look at it.
thanks for the clear metaphor
cheers
I think that we will see full price deflation eventually,
but we will first experience price biflation, due to a large increase in central bank monetary inflation. When we do get to price deflation, it will be sudden, and total, because the market will have lost all faith in the dollar (i.e. no amount of dollars will be able to buy any amount of goods).
Remember, under our current system, inflation and deflation are monetary, and not price phenomenon, and all other inflation and deflation (price, wage, etc.) stem from central bank monetary policy, not free market actions.
ok. i'm not an economics
ok. i'm not an economics expert. but when i lose confidence in the dollar...I'm going to ask for MORE OF THEM, not less.
so a loss of confidence in the dollar would be INFLATIONARY in my uneducated opinion.
Remember, under our current system, inflation and deflation are monetary, and not price phenomenon
Not sure what you're trying to say...perhaps that natural pricing corrections are totally absent in a manipulated market...which I would disagree with.
you say, biflation for a while, then longer term true deflation.
whatever true deflation means to you.
I say, we are in deflation right now. It may not last long, or perhaps several years. Either way, after that it's insane inflation.
Biflation
Good one.
I saw gas here in Boston for $2.99. But the price of eggs is still twice what it was last year.
Look for deflation in financial assets & real estate. When it ends, we'll have the buying opportunity of a lifetime.
Probably not for several years, maybe even a decade.
the things most in demand
the things most in demand will fall the least, or not at all.
but even their upward price trajectory will have been broken.
you should draw a graph of property, commodity and stock prices over time for the next decade.
show the ups and downs, and tell us why you think it will be so.
I agree with some deflation. But a decade of deflation?
I think we'll be done deflating, in 2 to 3 years top. Then we'll start a slow ramp upward for a two or three years, which will turn into a fast ramp upward for 2 or 3 years. And there will be bubbles in that last part.
We're doing the same things over and over. Why would I expect a different result?
That's 8-9 years to the peak of another over-revved economy and bubbles and all the groovy stuff we just experienced in 06-07-08.
a decade of deflation? don't think so.
I think inflation will *start* to really whip our butts in less then 3 years.
Beware assets that can be readily taxed away.
While real estate is nearly always a good long-term investment, that "nearly" does have several caveats.
The obvious one -- during the later stages of any RE "bubble" -- is clear to everyone right now... but there are other reasons to be cautious and not go "all in" even if/when RE prices are low.
Remember that that "state" eventually holds full title to the land -- you in reality are just a renter/leaser of it. And they can (and do) change the rent whenever they want -- and they can and do apply in in an "arbitrary" and "uneven" fashion (via credits, etc).
I can easily see a day not to far in the distant future where they tax "second homes," plus rental properties, as well as commercial and non-resident agricultural lands at much higher rates. The big corps won't mind, since they will be able to bribe their way to getting various forms of rebates, refunds, credits, deferments, etc. -- the main burden will fall on the least politically influential landowners.
In other words, the land cost and even the mortgage may end up being cheap -- but the taxes will be higher than both, and will be designed to force later divestment or to face hardship or default.
Plus... in a scary era where anything and everything is vulnerable to "nationalisation" -- remember what the guy said who bought the farm right before the 1917 Russian Revolution -- "oh shiiiiiit!"
Excellent points
Thank you, excellent points.
In Communist China, you still can't own land. So far the best you can do is get is a 99 year lease, and the right to use the land. At least they're up front about it.
Here in the good old USA, they are very sneaky. They say you own the land, but if you can't make your tax payments, well - they take the land away. What is the difference?
Oh my God, you're right!
When I first read this post I thought you were off your rocker but then when you put it like this, you're absolutely right. I can't believe I didn't see it before!
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"We will never give up. We will never give in." - Dr. Ron Paul
I Agree
I think we're in for a huge dose of it anyway. How long it will last is anyone's guess, and who knows what the endgame will be? There may be a whole new currency. If not, hyperinflation will occur eventually, imo.
I agree with your biflation prediction as well.
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