Nation of Wimps and Babies Won't Punch Back
We have a constitution. I and many of you have sworn to defend it. It is under attack. What will be our mobilizing call? Will we just let it happen? The masses are sound asleep. If we wait any longer it could be much much harder to get together. I saw a piece on c-span today with a guy talking about al queda training protestors to the Project for a New America. You do realize what this means? Would you rather die defending your stuff or your country? It won't be long until even that option is gone. I know this post may sound militant, but it is time for decisive action not symbolic or ineffectual. But something resounding that will let the masses know we are not going to stand for this anymore.
We need a prayer army in the rear. The people's militia in the middle and our active duty soldiers and trained patriots on the front line. There is no need for any violence. We own this country, we're sick of the direction it's going and we're taking it back.
The revolution was already fought. We have the constitution and it's all we need.
My question is, what needs to happen? Where do we start? I'm ready and I know others are. Everyone's so scared of the system, I don't expect many replies. It's very very sad. I've put posts like this up before. No one e-mailed me or called me. Patriotism is not a spectator sport.





















Run for and win the Sheriff's office
in many many counties.
Start arresting the traitors for violating their oath of office, since the Sheriff's authority trumps fed and state authority in their counties.
Also realize the ties these traitors have to secret societies. Ultimately, we must purge all Masons from public office if good government is to be restored. Anyone who has taken a bloody oath of allegiance to some other group should NEVER be allowed to hold ANY public office what-so-ever. This goes a long way to explain why so many of them do not honor their oath to uphold the Constitution once they get in office and is a big part of the problem we are facing today. They already took a binding oath of allegiance to something else....
I also like the idea of getting people to stop paying taxes, credit cards, school loans, etc. If only we could get enough people to refuse to feed the machine.
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Research the REAL driving force behind the New World Order:
www.dailypaul.com/node/59...
Anti-federal reserve sign bombs?
Getting more people to understand the system, is the way to rid of the system.
Mike
I am with you on this one. I think we would have done something a long time ago if they did not have all the resources to paint us as terrorists. They also have the ability to totally bend the truth about why we are bringing violence. They own the news, they own the money, they own the military, and they own the police. For this to work you would definitely need 10 million Americans ready to die. I would be one of them. I love my son and my wife very much, but I would give my life for the two of them, and for all of you to be free. I also took the oath to defend the Constitution, and to this day, it resides in my heart and all of my being. I am waiting.
Here's a start
www.voterbomb.com
Vote all the incumbents out.
or you could tell everyone you can that there are 3rd party candidates on the ballot. Halloween's around the corner-you could hand out 3rd party ballots to parents.
or you could become a precinct leader at campaignforliberty and really connect with your neighborhood.
Or you could contact all the district attorney's in the united states and ask them to prosecute George Bush and his administration for war crimes.
The most important thing is to get your family prepared. If they shut down food supplies you won't worry about the army-it'll be your neighbor down the street asking for food. www.efoodsdirect.com has some good stuff.
Voting out the incumbents
Voting out the incumbents took place in the "Republican Revolution of 1994"--guess what that gave us? Freshmen on Capitol Hill who became worse than the ones they replaced!
We need a party of our own; otherwise, voting out incumbents is a waste of time.
SUPPORT OUR FOUNDERS' AMERICA
Support the Constitution of the United States
It's a start
And it's also Michael Nystrom's site. If you have any "party" in mind let us know otherwise you're just spinning wheels.
They won't respect you until you vote them out. To find 3rd party candidates in your district go to one of their websites and put that info on the voterbomb website.
I think citizens arrest, it
I think citizens arrest, it would be the next step in excersizing our rights. Make sure its solid, notice the sheriff, when he does nothing go arrest a low profile public official and video tape it and put it on here. hopefully this would spin off a mass action of others doing the same.
I think WE need to go
Door to door asking people to join us in a march on DC, and what ever they need to take with them is ok too. Can you imagine hundreds of thousands descending on these bastards?
I'm ready to buy billboard space all over Tampa Bay!
Founding Father quotes
Ron Paul quotes
Subject matter: Federal Reserve, Civil Liberties, undeclared-unjust war messages...etc.
I don't have the means obviously to do it all myself...it's not cheap.
Anyone with me??
I started a post very similar to this last week...
I've spoken with some of my coworkers, some retired officers, to ask them about our Oath of Enlistment. They all agree that our Oath to protect and defend the Constitution trumps the charge to obey orders.
What now? I keep asking this....what would happen if thousands of active duty military assembled peacefully in dress uniforms in protest?
The Retrocon
Hope for America, Ron Paul for President in 2008!
I think we need a massive...
...gathering of people in our capital. Everyone in their uniforms, work clothes, etc to represent the cross sections of our society that have had enough. This would do what billboards cannot.
The Retrocon
Hope for America, Ron Paul for President in 2008!
I'm with you on this
Don't have the answers but I'm with ya!! Didn't sound like bitching or whining to me, sounds like leadership rants and thats what we need!
It's not inflate or die, it's inflate AND die, for the system that is.
Whining, bitchin' and complaining?
Where did that ever get anyone or any movement?
For a movement to actually move forward in a positive fashion so as to actually accomplish anything there must be 1) a vision (Dr. Paul supplied that), 2) solutions and goal setting and 3) ACTION to implement those solutions and attain those goals. Several on this and other forums have been proposing solutions and attempting to set goals and rally action. How many of you made an effort to SUPPORT any of that? Our movement became a force when people got involved and did things. We look around and how many people are doing things? Our movement has been defocused and split.
Goal setting is a art. Write down 20 things you can do to recover our country from where you are and with what resources you have. Prioritize any way you want. Put three at the top of your list that you feel you have the ability to achieve right away. Begin RIGHT NOW acting on those three.
Get focused and stay focused. You can make it happen.
Remember, we are the ones we have been waiting for.
For further inspiration and how to achieve goals visit:
http://www.tstn.com/
when do we fight back?
Fortune Favors the Bold
when we have a reasonabe chance of winning.
When they steal your last
dollar, you won't have any resources to utilize to fight back.
So, poster is right - WHEN?
We SHOULD HAVE BEEN FIGHTING BACK
The moment that our Congress, Senate, and President signed the first bill into law that violated the Constitution.
Ever since that first bill that violated the Constitution was signed into law, they have become more and more bold with what they take from us under the color of 'law'. And they have been doing it for a very, very, very long time.
Are our fellow citizens more comfortable with lies than truth?
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The most discouraging part of this huge mess is the peaceful acquiescence of the masses as they are being looted and enslaved. Yes, the media is complicit in offering spin instead of truth but history, the internet and old fashioned common sense provide more than enough evidence to understand that this is not merely a financial crisis.
I think the lies have become truth because they are more comfortable for people to believe. For example, I hear many say "I hope they (government and the Fed) know what they are doing" to which I think "yes, they know exactly what they are doing, that is the core problem."
My fear is that when people finally figure things out, it may be too late. This is not to say we shouldn't continue trying to bring the truth as it is our best weapon against tyranny; we have an obligation to resist and to teach.
On a personal level, I constantly try to focus the attention of my friends and family to the rotten core which is simply the federal reserve system. I pass out copies of the Money Masters and provide links to the historical reality. I plan on participating in the 11-22-08 End the Fed move and think we all must contribute to the people who are courageous enough to keep the truth alive via websites, books and political action.
I wish there was a more calculated and concerted move underway as I think our efforts are fragmented. Hopefully, your post will bring new ideas.
Mike
we all feel your frustration. To know something but be unable to set it right is very frustrating. I think that at this point all we can do is continue to point out the lies in the media and continue to point out that we CAN NOT TRUST the government. Until those in the military and law enforcement realize they are tools of CORPORATE AMERICA and not of the REPUBLIC we are in a very bad place. I think our focus must continue to reach out and inform this group. They are being brainwashed to hate us that is why you see the attitude at the Peace Protests where the police want to really hurt people and take such pride in it.
There may be an opportunity
coming up very soon. Many people are coming to the realization that they have been or soon will be robbed of their life savings, pensions, etc. Unfortunately, their "stuff" is what most Americans are closely connected to. They are mostly oblivious to the Constitutional Republic that was gifted to them by the Founders. All of that can change quickly. Even if our numbers are only 5% of the general population, that's more than 10 million people in this country that are ready to say ENOUGH OF THIS! That is a formidable force. I trust that we will know when the opportunity is upon us. The neocon bankster criminals have something planned to spring on us at the height of this engineered finacial crisis. We have to be ready to respond. If we don't respond forcefully, I'm afraid that Russia and China will and we don't want that. This is our mess and we have to clean it up. I'm all in for restoring the Republic. Again, let's TRUST that we will know, on a gut level, when the opportunity is upon us.
I'm with you.
I'm with you.
Doc Holladay
Nashville, TN
http://www.myspace.com/do...
Study the United States Constitution !
Mike people must study and know the Constitution. This letter is from Attorney Peter Mancus with an opening letter from Mr. Angel Shamaya , 37 pages but well worth the time to read it. I have posted this several times on DP to help people understand the very foundation of this country and how ignorant we as a people have become.
http://billstclair.com/li...
"we are heroes"
as I walked in to pay my property taxs at the local courthouse, I could not help but hear some loudmouth going off about something around the corner. as I turned the corner I saw it was a business friend of mine going off about the need for a revolution!!!!!!!!!! and people in the line were talking back to him!
don't underestimate the power of talking about the loss of our constitution and bill of rights, I got NOWHERE trying to discuss 911.
I am among those woke up by Ron Paul. I was also a neocon warmonger.
keep spreading the word, people ARE waking up!
" the important thing is to never stop questioning, curiousity, has it's own reason for existing..
Albert Einstien
Hello HVACTech!
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I think you are the same person I met at the Rally for the Republic in Minnesota (actually we met at Clubhouse Jaeger). You let me use your computer to e-mail some photos I took of Ron Paul and some other speakers at the rally.
One thing we found that we have in common was that we both were involved in the HVAC industry. I think I mentioned that I had invented what I think is a great product (saves energy and allows for easier integration of geothermal heat pumps, fuel cells, solar collectors and other heating-cooling sources).
I'm in the final stage of prototype modeling-simulation and hope to sell the patent in the coming months. I guess I won't really be an inventor until I actually make some money (or so my wife tells me).
Anyways, I hope you are the person I met - let me know - e-mail LL-3@hotmail.com
guilty!
gawd I wish I would have hit up on the chick in the tinfoilhat!!!!!! {bieng as how Michael and Oruval never showed up......]
" the important thing is to never stop questioning, curiousity, has it's own reason for existing..
Albert Einstien
The ballot box is the only
The ballot box is the only thing that will work short-term, meaning before you are old and grey, and have teenage grandchildren. (No offense to people who already fit that description.)
We have to destroy the two-party system. That's the answer. It's the only answer. Nothing else will work. We need a strong third party that is OURS --whether we create one from scratch or take over one of the existing ones--and that is inflexible on constitutional issues. We need money. We need organization. We need a platform. We need to support one strong candidate for the presidency, because the run for the White House is the starting point for building our power base in the system.
We need to deal with these things. We aren't doing that, which means we are failing.
When are we going to stop failing?
SUPPORT OUR FOUNDERS' AMERICA
Support the Constitution of the United States
We need a BOLD LEADER
I LOVE Ron Paul and what he did for us. I LOVE Jesse Ventura and his willingness to tell TRUTH TO POWER. We need the candidate that embodies both of them. Ron Paul never wanted to be president, and so he never really "took the gloves off." And we all followed suit, and we are the nicest, mellowist "revolutionaries" that ever existed. Unfortunately, we will not be SUCCESSFUL revolutionaries unless we FIGHT. Even if it is only with words, we need to FIGHT. Why did Ron Paul never call for impeachment, for instance? Challenge the election fraud? Defend the word "truth" at least, or call for a REAL investigation? He is a great man, but he does not have the "fire in the belly" any longer. Look at old footage of him - we need THAT.
I am NOT faulting Ron Paul, he did what he did and he did it VERY WELL> But he NEVER WANTED TO BE PRESIDENT. So many of us are STILL trying to make him run for an office he does not want! That is why we continue to fail.
Actually it's spelt Al Qaeda
http://www.conspiracyplan.... I guess some folks believe the MSM after all. How sad.
Ahem..... "spelled"
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"Not armies, not nations, have advanced the race; but here and there, in the course of ages, an individual has stood up and cast his shadow over the world."
It's not going to happen
It's not going to happen unless the nutcases in power force it to happen.
Until the martial law chatter becomes reality, and tanks are rolling down Main Street, Americans are not going to fight back and they will take any number of abuses, clinging to their hollow belief that they "still have the ballot box", so they are still "free".
This goes not only for the couch potato masses, but for the chest-thumping, supermacho-in-cyberspace patriot movement with all its stockpiles of semi-automatic weapons that will never be used for anything except shooting paper targets and old milk jugs.
Don't wait for them to rise up, because they aren't going to unless physically pushed hard. Otherwise they will continue to be Uncle Sam's battered housewife, rhetorically speaking.
You say 'there's no need for violence', and I would be inclined to agree if there was any chance of the ballot box working. It doesn't. People are too easily misdirected, even in this movement.
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Support the Constitution of the United States
MSM brainwashing, Apathy, Culture of Pleasure
These are the beasts that we must thwart. Bring them down and the elite globalists fall with them.
NWO for Dummies
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
"There can be only one permanent revolution - a moral one: The regeneration of the inner man."
—Tolstoy
You have a point on that
You have a point on that "culture of pleasure" thing. I don't think I've heard anyone use that here before.
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aka Culture of Death
Pleasure/distraction/contentment seems to wrap up the state we are in. You cannot deny that Americans hold our movies, video games, novels, computers, porn, sex, drugs, music, extravagant and unhealthy food, etc. etc. in the highest regard. These are the things that have consumed our lives and drawn us away from what really matters. I'm not saying they are inherantly evil; I'm saying that they have been abused and other more important matters-at-hand have been neglected as a consequence. Thus many are blind to the truth, hence darkness has surrounded and enveloped them as they embibe themselves in these pursuits of pleasure. The demoralization process began back in the sixties and the fruition, the full blossoming, or product of it is what is happening right now. Religion and morals have been cast aside and pleasure has been embraced to its fullest. We are content, and why should we care about politics?
NWO for Dummies
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
"There can be only one permanent revolution - a moral one: The regeneration of the inner man."
—Tolstoy
As in ancient Rome? Rampant
As in ancient Rome?
Rampant gluttony, orgies, obsession with sex, spectator sports...does that sound at all familiar?
SUPPORT OUR FOUNDERS' AMERICA
Support the Constitution of the United States
2 things you can do
1) Form Committees of Safety
* participate in the conference calls
* educate and form your neighborhood
http://www.committeesofsa...
and
2) use GPG to communicate securely online
http://getfiregpg.org
what is ..GPG's?
and cant the gov... break the code? IU heard they have all public encryption keys... even a microsoft back door so to speak...
First thing we do
Is vote out of office every bastard that voted for the bailout. We need to educate in mass every angry citizen that the free market did not fail, but a socialist market that forced banks to make bad loans is what failed. We need to educate people as to what sub prime really means. Most think it means is lending money to people at low interest rates, but what it really means is lending money to people that have low credit ratings. Lending money to people who do not have a history of paying back their debts. Banks were forced by threat to either give bad loans or face government imposed freezes on activities such as mergers and were forced to allow such groups as ACORN to attend meetings such as annual stockholder meetings. One of the lawyers for Acorn just happened to be Barack Obama. The banks did not protest too much because when the housing market was going up, if they did have to foreclose on a bad debt the underlying value was more then what they had to lend out. ACORN played the race card and the US government and banks fell for it when the market was going up. What were the banks choices? They could either give sub prime loans or face strict regulation. To me that dose not look like a free market. The truth is only about 15% of the sub prime and 5% of the prime loans will default. The vast majority of this country dose pay their bills. We are suffering from a fear based reaction created by our own government. That fear has spread around the world and all markets are crashing. When the strongest bastion of individual liberty and freedom allows their government to embrace a socialist path and is about to elect a president who's only executive decisions were to fund programs to teach little kids to be good little communist, then I think we get what we reap. We all need to take blame fopr the country we have now and then we need to get mad as hell and do something about it!
"Vote out of office every
"Vote out of office every bastard that voted for the bailout."
Sounds great. If it happens, I'll eat my hat. People don't vote incumbents out of office on any basis other than party affiliation, and even then, they only do so halfheartedly.
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Support the Constitution of the United States
not in my state - they will vote him right back in - he's "GOP"
I hope things are better around the country, but here in Idaho even many of th RP people WON'T talk about the economy because it is a "divisive issue" and they just want to be part of the "Grand Old Party" now, screw the Republic.
I believe there was a financial coup in our nation that is now being parleyed into a global coup. I have been told to "stop crying wolf."
Good luck, folks. I can try to sound the alarm, but even Ron Paul keeps promising us big changes NEXT election, and I don't think we will make it to the "next election." There I go again, crying wolf.
And Mike Simpson ignored his constituents and voted "Yes" on the bailout, and he will win his election by a landslide anyway. I am beyond sick of STUPID COWARDS.
David Icke on Alex Jones Tv 10/06/08 "Controlling Your Reality"
here is some insight on the "what do we do?" subject.
www.baldwin08.com - Chuck Baldwin or New World Order!
Compile a list and exterminate them..
swiftly..
like at one of their secret society meetings.
The Battle of Bohemian Grove
Don't assume that everyone understands what you do.
Ron Paul and Chuck Baldwin supporters may be ready for action, but do you think that anyone else is?
http://uk.youtube.com/wat...
http://www.freedom-force....
http://lpuk.blogspot.com/
you need to get some some people aiming crownward
over there. the root of all evil is living in your land.
The wonderful city states...
add to London, the Vatican and DC. They need destroyed.
The Square Mile? Yes indeed.
Unfortunately, everyone here seems to think that Bush/Brown are the problem. Or that the "free market" is the problem *wince*. They don't see the bankers pulling the strings.
So our task is much the same as yours. Educating people. Yesterday, a 20 year old co-worker showed me the "financial collapse" news headlines.
He asked me - in all seriousness - if we would still be able to get cash out of the ATMs on payday.
I answered his questions, but he was still thirsty for knowledge, so I ended up explaining the fractional reserve system, central banking and the history of fiat money.
Amazingly, he listened. When apolitical people start asking you questions about politics and economics, you know there is a seismic shift going on.
http://uk.youtube.com/wat...
http://www.freedom-force....
Zeitgeist part 3: http://www2.b3ta.com/mind...
It surprises me that there has not been a run on the banks yet.
The whole problem is that many of the youth are so passive. They don't think anything is wrong, as long as they get student loans and credit. As long as there is no draft, there will be no major youth movement.
What The Hell Do You Think Caused WAMU To Be Stolen By
JP Morgan??? I guess that was just a bank walk and not really a run...
Revolt For Freedom !!!
Don't Be So Sure...
... that runs on various banks haven't already started. Nowadays, you don't actually need to stand in front of your bank or ATM to withdraw cash.
Moving money out of your account can now be accomplished over the Internet with a few clicks. This is how I emptied all my accounts this year, moving everything to "safer" banks or foreign accounts.
Have you ever heard the story of
The Wild and Free Pigs of the Okefenokee Swamp???????
link to the story: http://www.afn.org/~gover...
Yep ... that story
sizes it all up. Great analogy!!
"The high office of President has been used to foment a plot to destroy the Americans freedom, and before I leave office I must inform the citizen of his plight."
- John Fitzgerald Kennedy