"CONTROLLED DISINTEGRATION" Now Out of Their Control.

Anything built on a foundation of lies and deceit is bound to collapse in upon itself. I am often struck by the weakness shown in Bush Sr.'s voice during his famous NWO speech. I would love to hear the opinion of some highly trained professionals in the field of linguistic analysis about this speech - not only his delivery, but the words themselves. Here's a link to the speech (#11 in the list):

http://www.soundboard.com...

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This is not an engineered collapse, it is the inevitable result of fiat money and credit expansion as predicted by Mises.

The banks are scrambling to save themselves and will certainly preserve much of the wealth they have skimmed off the world economy for decades. Some of them may even find ways to profit. It looks like J.P. Morgan is going to do well. But they are not in control of this. This is the unraveling of the first world fiat currency.

I'm betting that PM-backed currencies are about to make a comeback.

Libera me, let the truth break, what my fears make--Leslie Phillips

Fearmongers in our ranks are some of our biggest enemies. I think the fearmongers are well-meaning, but ignorant--and they aren't doing us any favors.

The New World Order is not orchestrating an economic meltdown three weeks before the presidential elections just to get a world bank (or the Amero) established. To suggest otherwise is to divulge a complete lack of common sense.

The reason the financial system is collapsing is inertia. A house built on a weak foundation cannot stand.

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"The New World Order is falling apart before their eyes."...this is where you are wrong and you, yourself, tap dance slowly toward becoming a disinformation agent...be very careful, republicae!

i, generally, liked your post...however, i would, respectfully, add that if we believe that the nwo/cfr is failing we must attack them now!

imho, the nwo is NOT falling apart before their/our eyes and if you suggest that we, the people do nothing but stand by and watch and let it fail on it's own...this is wrong!

if, as you say, the nwo/cfr scum are weakened we need to STRIKE WHILE THE IRON IS HOT to destroy them completely now!

stand tall, people....attack now! do what you can to further expose and destroy those that would inslave us!

republicae, i would like to see you advise the people to, if you are right and the nwo is dying, smell the blood in the water and be as sharks to completely devour this treasonous nwo!

to stand by, do nothing, and watch is wrong...this "do nothing and read my lengthy post" approach needs to be addressed!

O Captain, My Captain, rise up and hear the bells!

Let's face it, there is a lot a fear mongering out there (eg. Alex Jones). Taking all of the doom and gloom to heart (if allowed) can completely destroy one's spirit and will to live.

Every time Republicae makes a post, I am uplifted with hope. If there is indeed a silver lining to every dark cloud, one can be sure that Republicae will find it and post post it on the DP.

I know that there are rough times coming. The real possibility that the elite will be destroyed and brought to justice by the very system that they created would be worth waiting and suffering through hard times to see.

We love you Republicae… Don't you ever die. The world needs inspiration and hope, and you serve in up on big heaping platters. My humble thanks to you.

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"It does not take a majority to prevail... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men." Samuel Adams

insight but I fear those of us who understand what is happening is still to few.

"There can be only one permanent revolution - a moral one: The regeneration of the inner man."
—Tolstoy

October 12, 2008 (LPAC)--Leading economist and American statesman Lyndon LaRouche issued the following assessment of the global financial breakdown crisis on Oct. 11.

Now you're going to the point that the establishment, so-called, has lost confidence in itself. It no longer believes that it has any possible way of controlling this thing, with its present policy. That's already settled. They have not come out of that, in the sense of trying to approximate some scheme that they'll come up with, which they will now adopt as the "new" solution. But you see the trend in that: The idea of the New Bretton Woods is all over the place, with many versions. That's already settled.

But the New Bretton Woods doesn't solve the problem, and the main problem is, people don't understand what the United States is, especially United States' citizens; because they've been so long in the wilderness, they don't remember what life was like when society was human. But society is human, and that will come forth.

So probably, some time within a week to two weeks or so forth, we'll have a fundamental change in the situation, in which we will essentially be on top of the situation: And that's because, they don't have any solution. I do. And none of the others do. You have people who are more sane or less insane than others, who will respond accordingly. But from what I see, nowhere, including Russia, is there a conception, a real conception of what I'm going to do. And that will take a couple of weeks, before that begins to become clear.

But what we're going to do, is simply, we're going to shut down this whole system. How? Well, through bankruptcy. What do you do in bankruptcy? You shut the system down. You put it into receivership. Now, the game now, is to target derivatives, because until you destroy derivatives, you're not going to be able to do any financial reorganization at all. Because the whole system is mortgaged to derivatives, and you're talking about quadrillions.

Remember what these are: Derivatives are nothing but gambling side-bets. They have no relationship to real value, they're only gambling side-bets.

Now, the problem also, is that these side-bets happen to be the characteristic of the system, through the degeneration from the disease called Milkenism, which became Alan Greenspanism. And Alan Greenspan and his British friends made derivatives the dominant, characteristic feature of the entire monetary system.

And worse than that, if you put out a derivative, and you put a price on it, this price now enters into the general profit-rate calculations, for certain categories of things; each have different profit-rate, discount rate. So the discount rate on a derivative, is then reversed and capitalized, as a capital asset, based on a ratio of yield to total value ratio. This is how you get this quadrillion function. So, in other words, there never was anything actually uttered as a value loaned. What there was, was the lending and borrowing, of a small amount which was the yield! And so you took a yield capital ratio, a multiplier factor, and you created this great mass of so-called nominal assets, which had to be in the form of assets, otherwise, they couldn't command a yield, according to the financial system!

Now, what we're going to have to do: You've got to cancel all the derivatives! We cancel them... they don't exist. "You don't exist, go away, derivative... you don't exist!" "You want derivatives, you don't exist, either! You can apply as a poorhouse applicant."

So, if we get rid of the derivatives, then you now have what you can reduce this to a ratio of bullshit, which is another word for derivatives, to something which has real current value. How do you do that? Well, everything goes into bankruptcy. And you have certain things that must be paid, currently, to keep the economy going, will be paid; and things that are not really necessary to keep the economy going, can be frozen for a while, with no yield on it.

The idea that there's an inherent right to profit is bullshit. Profit is supposed to be what you're supposed to earn somehow. So therefore, we simply take households and other things, essential things that must function which are real, and they will continue to function. And we can subsidize that through the United States sovereignty, under the American system.

But the rest of it--haha! Buddy, don't worry about it! It's either canceled, and that's in the quadrillions category; or it is in limbo, where it will remain until somebody comes to haul it off; or a very small amount of this great financial total, which is actually current turnover. So you reduce the economy to a current turnover basis, plus new capital inputs for developing the economy. And that's what we're going to end up doing.

- We Need the American System -

Now, the way we're going to do it, can not be done without the United States, and it can't be done by the United States alone. What you have to do, is, you have to create a fixed-exchange-rate system. Without the U.S. Constitution, and our Constitutional tradition you couldn't save this planet. It's finished. The U.S. is essential: And the Russians don't understand this. It's been clear. They understand some things, but they don't understand this crucial thing. They don't understand the American System.

Because with the Russians there is a problem: The Russians got bad `Marx' in economics. And therefore, they have a Marxian view of reality, which is bad Marx. And thus, they have the axiomatic assumptions of the British economic system. That's their problem! They see the British as an oppressor, but they don't see the British System as an empire. Idiots. They don't understand economics, because they think in Marxian terms: either the radical type, the extreme liberal type... But now it's really the British System, that they believe in, the liberals. The others tend toward a more conservative system, which is essentially Marxian, or essentially British in its ontological characteristics. So, they don't understand economy. They understand some things about economy. It's like the guy who knows how to put his tie on, but can't pull up his pants, you know? He can do some things right, but the process is not so good.

So, thus, the key thing is, what I'm doing has to be the key to this. Because you've got to have the American System to save the world. Without the American System, you can't save the world. The American System idea has to come from here; it can not come from Asia, Eurasia. They don't have that view of the world: Therefore, they're not capable of managing this process from the top. It has to be managed from the top, from the American System, which means here: which means me, because you know what the state of knowledge is in the United States.

Which means, as some people around the United States, in the woodwork understand, that in a few weeks ahead, I will have to play a decisive role in whether this present system survives or not. Because without that factor, you can not get out of this mess.

What you do, is, you use the U.S. Constitution. Hamilton's a good point of reference. You take that Constitution, and under our Constitution, you can not utter money except by Federal permission: It's the permission of the Congress, and permission of the Executive branch. And the Executive branch then manages this, once the Congress has authorized the utterance of credit. Our system is a credit system, not a money system. There are elements of a monetary system stuck into the present form of the system, under the Federal Reserve Bank and similar things. But the system remains, Constitutionally, a credit system, not a monetary system.

What has to be done, is we have to eliminate the monetary systems of the world, all monetary systems of the world--and go to a credit system! So, we freeze the monetary system, but we determine what part of the monetary aggregate will be converted into a credit-approved part, under the U.s. Constitution.

The way we extend this, is, we take other nations, such as Russia, China, and India, and we take them into the system, through treaty agreements. Because there are only two ways, under the U.S. Constitution, you can create credit: One, is the monetary creation of credit, which is controlled domestically; the second is by treaty agreement, and the Congressional approval of the treaty agreement affecting credit is done in the same way as the domestic generation of credit. So, now, if you have a treaty with Russia, China, and India, you have established what they could otherwise not establish: An international credit system.

Now, it has to be a fixed-exchange-rate credit system, or it won't work. The price of the fixed-exchange-rate system is not what's crucial, it's the existence of it. Not the relative price. And it must be fixed: If it is not fixed, it doesn't work. Because you can not create an international currency--that doesn't work either! You can only have an international credit system, and it won't work unless you tie the credit systems together, by a treaty arrangement; it must be fixed.

Now: From what I've said, it's obvious to you, that I know exactly what to do, and how it can be done. All you need is a feeling of great pain, in the right places, of the right people, and it can be caused to happen.

So, that's what we're going to do!

If we don't succeed, and do it just exactly this way, there's not going to be a civilized planet for a long time to come. And the population of the planet will drop from about 6.5 billion people to less than 1--hmm?--in a fairly short time. So there's no room for rearrangement of this perspective; it's not possible, unless you're crazy. Unfortunately, we have a lot of crazy people out there, including ignorant ones.

But it has to be done exactly this way: And it should be clear to you that the way is there. The key thing, of course, is not money. Money is an evil you have to control....

So, it's physical values that count.... So therefore, we've got to think in these terms. Get away from the idea of money is value. Money does not define value. Value must define money! Ah! Again, American System! The foolish Europeans have no idea what this is, including the Russians. They want to go back to a Marxian Communist conception of the matter--which again, is another sidetrack, a dangerous one.

We have to be absolutely clear on this. And stick to this, and not compromise on this. Don't compromise at all on these principles! No saying, "Well, maybe you're right." Don't say, "maybe you're right," you say, "You are certainly wrong!" "And that can kill you, being wrong! So stop being wrong! Before it kills you!"

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Thank you for the thoughts and the time it took to share them.

Having said that I do wish to add a few counter points ...

You said:

One of the interesting notions that are making its round once again is that during The Great Depression the Federal Reserve was not able to inflate during the crisis because prices were simply deflating much more rapid than the FED could counteract. While that is true to a degree during that period we must remember that there have been some very drastic transformations during the last 40 years in both the institutional and monetary framework of the Central Banking process, perhaps the most striking one is that during the 1930s, the monetary system was still on a gold-backed, partially fiat system, today that is no longer the case. Remember, money back by gold poses a very restrictive and narrow means of operation for any Central Bank, that’s the main reason so many Central Planners hate gold.

I say:

This is exactly right, but remember we are in a global market place now, with nothing to compete with. I am sure you know what Einstein said about relativity. It applies to currency as well. As you so eloquently state in the following paragraphs after this quote, the central banks for all intents and purposes have created one currency. All the currencies of the world act as one through the exchanges and under central banking controls. They furthered this unity through a universal rate cut. This, to me, reeks of deflation, not inflation. Unemployment will sky rocket as the the GO's are forced into massive budget cuts. This, too, reeks of deflation, not inflation. The wealthy are now getting relatively more poor than the poor. This, too, reeks of deflation. You are correct in predicting that Mr. Keynes world is coming to an end. The means will be by either inflation to the extreme or deflation to the extreme. All I am saying is that the signs indicate deflation.

Either way the world as we know it is nearing an end. You think it will end sooner than I do, but we both speak with unity about what is happening.

The goal is to create an environment where there is a possibility that freedom can prevail. Otherwise facism will prevail.

I have an answer. What is yours?

WAHOR!!
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to your well written essay. Here is another site explaining the controlled disintegration 1980s project: http://www.abovetopsecret....

I sincerely hope truth and justice prevail for We, the People!

By the way folks, I am going to Jekyll Island next weekend! I can't wait to see where the Leviathan was born.

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Can someone tell me what TPB stands for?

I hope you are right. The NWO has been so patiently relentless over the years. They are coming across as cocky and sloppy now. If they were still in control it seems they should have been working to curb this derivatives mess a bit sooner.

that make this situation much different from the Great Depression in the US.

1. The Global Economy - With so many more people now in the global economy that could utilize a larger money supply, it's possible the massive injections of dollars could actually work like a global stimulus package.

2. If the countries who are now loaning money to the US would agree, (and they actually have very little choice but to do so), the financing of US debt could be extended in time for both short and long term debt, thus relieving the short term crunch.

The fact is, the US still has two main Aces-in-the-Hole.
A. We are the only military superpower thus no one can challenge us or collect on their debt by seizing property -
B. We are still the largest and most sought after market for foreign trade and they all want to maintain a trading partnership with the US.

Thanks, Republicae.

first 11 paragraphs. At this point, I can only substitute "hope" for "believe" at the beginning of paragraph 12. That the Fed had reached the point where it could little or nothing to prevent the longer term collapse of the dollar, is something that had become increasingly evident during the past year, even to some of the more knee-jerk bulls. For those that have long followed and understood the actions of the Fed, especially in an historical context, the long term fate of the dollar is not a surprize, but those people constitute a relatively small percentage of the population.

The situation does indeed contain the possibility that their crimes may be exposed. (I entirely agree with the use of the word "crime" in your post.) Those crimes have been exposed, to anyone interested in discovering them, for a number of years. The number of people reading about the situation and those gathering an understanding of what was taking place, remained fairly small. If such crimes will therefore be exposed, then the questions I ponder are "exposed by whom?", "exposed to whom?". This is the origin of my use of "hope" in preference to your use of "believe".

When I consider the makeup of the population, to whom these crimes will be exposed, I am left to consider how this exposure will translate into genuine understanding by the populace and, more importantly, the actions that will or won't be ignited.

I suppose I could have said the foregoing more economically with "I hope you're right", eh?

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"An economy built on fiat money is a society on its way to ashes."

Bravo Republicae! Well done and very succinct! I Look foward to the day we are pursuing shall we say some "rodent control".

Folks this is a must read if you want to understand what is going on. I know it's long but please take the time to read it. It really is only the tip of the iceberg to all you could know about it but make the salient points needed for understanding and clarity

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Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. H. L. Mencken

Get Prepared!

Repblicae, Thanks for the post. I always look forward to reading them. Your writing helps to put the many machinations we see daily now in the news in focus. Daily Paul=Paul Revere Ride (They are moving to one world government-the endgame, time to send the alarm. My ancestor is in that history so I'm keen to liken our present day dilemma to it)

You may be interested in this post by Chris Martenson today.

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"For the boom years of 2003-2007, the US was borrowing 80% of the world's entire pool of savings to fund its deficits and excess consumption. We borrowed between $600 billion and $800 billion during those years.

Now, in a world of declining prospects, the US finds itself in need of 200% to 300% more than that. While I recognize that people tend to save more during downturns, there are also fewer profits to save, so we might expect that the "plan" at this point is for the US to assume it can borrow more than 200% of next year's savings. The entire world's savings.

I flat out do not think this is a workable plan.

There is no way to pull this off legitimately. Which leaves us with the illegitimate option - direct money printing by the Fed. I am sorry to say it, but I simply do not see any other mechanism by which the needed amounts can be secured by the US government.

This means that the dollar is at severe risk of decline, and certainly borrowing costs (interest rates) are going to rise, which will only exacerbate the borrowing needs as higher interest rates enforce higher payments. The first signs are appearing that this dynamic is already in play......." "So even as the US is seeking to borrow another $1.5 - $2 trillion this next year, there's another $1.5 - $2 trillion that must be "rolled over" in open market auctions. What this means is that somebody has to willingly buy those bills and bonds when they come due. If not, then we could face the mother of all catastrophes, the failure of a US government debt auction, which also goes by the very unpleasant name of "sovereign default."

This will not happen, though, because the Fed would almost certainly step in and buy those bonds. A US government default would basically light up the "tilt" indicator on the global financial game, so it would be avoided at any cost. The Fed, of course, would use its magic checkbook and create the needed money out of thin air, the most inflationary of all possible actions."

www.chrismartenson.com/bl...

with info about what is happening at the G7, and that High crimes had been discovered and were going to be dealt with. I will hope he will repost or update.
You say, "I firmly believe that this current crisis is their little “controlled disintegration” and that it has gotten totally out of hand and moved into such a dangerous situation because it threatens not only to expose their crimes, but to completely destroy their power."

thank you for this thread. I agree, they have sold out.
And your last sentence is very important too.

Freedom brings People together

"The Russian KGB Chinese secret police and other Asian intelligence agencies have banded together to target the descendants of the founders and chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank or Rothschild banking syndicate proxies for assassinations hits for stealing up to 350 trillion from the United States Treasury not returning the money back to the United States Treasury and interfering with the NESARA law. Russian KGB has already knocked off the United States Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson gunshot point blank in the chest December 28th, 2007. United States Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson dies from his gunshot Wednesday January 2nd, 2008 2:18PM. The Henry Paulson that you see on television today is an impostor."

http://www.poe-news.com/f...

True or false?

This is what I found on the CFR white paper:
http://www.the7thfire.com...

I'll look for the original later.
Thanks for the post.

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