montana...our last chance. mainthread
Posted October 11th, 2008 by GalacticWacko
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we need to win montana! rp is on the ballot for gods sake! time is short so we must act fast! let us put our minds together and get a gameplan. post your ideas and what u can do to help here.
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You who are worried about "splitting the vote"
should realize that *IF* Ron Paul won the popular vote in Montana, and *IF* Chuck Baldwin won enough votes elsewhere in the country to come within 3 electoral votes of winning, you can bet your bottom dollar that the electors pledged to Ron Paul in Montana would cast their ballots for Chuck Baldwin, if it came down to that. The electors don't cast their ballot until weeks after the general election.
So, if you can, vote for Ron.
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Is Montana 420 friendly ?
Haven't heard anything on this subject yet !
It should have been the
It should have been the "Free State" in the Free State Project. If so, I'd move there.
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Chuck Baldwin theoretically
Chuck Baldwin theoretically can win. Ron Paul cannot. So we should vote for Baldwin over Paul in Montana and Louisiana, because Baldwin can win?
Wrong! This is the same logic that I hear from my non-third party supporting friends. Why vote for your candidate (McKinney in my case)...they arent going to win. McCain and Obama are the only ones with a chance of winning. You should choose one of those.
Baldwin isnt going to win. He has the access for it, but he is a shitty candidate with very little support. On polls WITH third party candidates like Barr, Nader, and McKinney, Baldwin doesnt even register. If you live in these two states, vote your heart: RON PAUL!
That's the funniest post all day!
"Chuck Baldwin theoretically can win."
Theoretically, anyone can win.
Theoretically, pigs that wear lipstick can fly.
I will say that at this point a vote for Ron Paul equals a vote for Chuck Baldwin. Neither will even be a blip on the election process screen.
Ron Paul threw us under the bus...and most of the money we donated to him is unaccounted for. Now he's all over the MSM and selling his third book this campaign. Just sayin...
Chuck Baldwin IS a Ron Paul Canidate
The others are not, therefore I do not understand your logic. GO AHEAD, VOTE FOR RON PAUL (if it will be counted) VOTE 3RD PARTY, but I am suggesting that perhaps it would be better serving if your vote went to someone that is on enough states Ballots to win the Election who is also a Ron Paul Candidate.
Egos aside, sometimes you need to choose which battles to lose in an effort to win the war.
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If you have the option
If you have the option between a Ron Paul candidate and Ron Paul, isnt the answer obvious?
If I could choose fools gold or real gold, I'm going for the real gold!
No, Chuck Baldwin is a
No, Chuck Baldwin is a candidate that Ron Paul supports. That doesn't entitle him to the more general description, "Ron Paul candidate". Many, many folks who are/were RP supporters were devastated by Paul's endorsement of this anti-Constitution, anti-freedom of choice candidate.
Baldwin has no place at the table, IMO.
I cannot find anything that supports your claim...
I highly doubt Ron Paul would endorse him if that were true. But you are entitled to your opinion and I respect that.
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He isn't using any logic. He
He isn't using any logic. He dislikes Baldwin, because Baldwin is a Christian "theocrat" in his view. So he's just posting his lack of support for Baldwin and stating that he's a "shitty candidate".
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CHEERS!
I remember Ron Paul himself saying that is not a good reason to vote against a candidate when he was referring to Mitt.
If we learned anything from Ron, lets start applying it now while we still have time.
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Theoretically Chuck Balwin "could" win the Election
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because he is on enough state's Ballots or is a WRITE-IN Candidate. Ron Paul is not.
In Massachusetts the Deadline for Write-Ins was Sept 5th--I am not aware of any effort to get Ron Paul recognized as a Write-In.
Therefore I have decided to vote for someone that would be counted, who I know has ALWAYS supported Ron Paul and was later ENDORSED by Ron Paul---CHUCK BALDWIN.
I TRUST RON PAUL'S JUDGMENT; I TRUST CHUCK BALDWIN.
It is a numbers game; CHUCK BALDWIN needs your Vote.
Also, Chuck Baldwin has said many times that he would appoint Ron Paul as his Treasury Secretary, therefore a VOTE for CHUCK is a vote for RON!
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Missing the Point, Neglecting the Constitution?
The chances of Baldwin winning this outright (Electoral Majority) are long against him. By supporting Baldwin or Paul or Barr or McKinney (depending on your jurisdiction) the tactic is not so much to achieve a majority, but to deny McBama a majority. Toward that end, a coordinated state by state strategy is superior to the one size endorsement fits all voters tactic.
If you live in Oklahoma, you have no choice. Write-in Ron Paul.
If you live in Montana or Louisiana, rejoice! You get to vote for Ron Paul!
If you live in New Hampshire, please vote for George Phillies (the other Libertarian).
If you live in Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, Colorado, The Dakotas, Delaware, Florida, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Nebraska, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Ohio, Oregon, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, Wisconsin, or Wyoming, please vote for Chuck Baldwin.
If you live in Arizona, California, The District of Columbia, or Maine, please vote for Cynthia McKinney or Bob Barr.
If you live in Connecticut, Georgia, Indiana, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, or Texas, please vote for Ralph Nader or Bob Barr.
If you can’t abide my recommendations, then, your State permitting, you could write in Ron Paul, your mom, your dog, or even Bob Barr.
But never Never NEVER vote for McBama!
This decision is rather painful for me, as it will be the first Presidential election for me (since 1976) in which I will not be voting for the Libertarian. It looks as though the Barr Campaign has burned that bridge, and it likely won’t be rebuilt until at least 2010. But still I reach out, optimistic sentimental sap that I am, and hope Barr does well in Georgia and Texas.
Then.. after Sidney and Hussein each garner less than 270 Electors while McKinney picks up DC's 3 or Baldwin picks up Idaho's 4 or Paul wins Montana's 3 or Barr sweeps Georgia's 13, Republican Electors will be loathe to let the House give the Election to Barack, and could very well compromise on a Paul/Palin ticket going into the Electoral College.
Compromise: a way for Republicans to save face and for Americans to save their Republic.
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billboards!
We need giant billboards saying Vote Ron Paul on Nov. 4th! Vote for something more! Vote for Freedom and Liberty! We need to put some money together for this!
we can start by
calling montana radio stations and sending letters to the editors of newspapers. post the contacts and info here. lets do this! after all the crap they have thrown at us we can have the last laugh. screw mcbama and the msm! start here www.montanalinks.com radio links are towards the bottom.
thanks
thanks
Can we get a chip=in for the
Can we get a chip=in for the high tide commercial? I bet we could have a "Montana money-bomb" and get great results and buy T.V. airtime to play the high tide video during primetime.
yes we can!
chip ins are easy. mr. nystrom can put one up here. i am thinkin about some full page newspaper ads and radio spots as well. get the chip in up and we can start promoting it now.
I predict,
That we will win Montana.
It may be one of the last strongholds of American freedom.
"The Constitution was written not to regulate you in any way, the purpose of the Constitution is to restrain the government." Ron Paul.
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bumper stickers
I have hundreds of free rp2008 bumperstickers if they can be of any help.
just give me a MT address.
Can you imagine if, say, John McCain lost the election
by THREE ELECTORAL votes, those from Montana?
Wow.
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that would be funny
very funny
Sssswwweeeeeeet!
"Victory for liberty! That is our goal, and nothing less. -- Ron Paul, December 17, 2007"
What would be way cooler
Is if three votes from Montana + a handful of faithless electors kept both McCain AND Obama from amassing 270.
That would be one sweet outcome
I get all giddy thinking about it!
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Yes, then they'd blame it on us Ron Paul people again! LOL
But then, I predict that McCain doesn't need any help losing! heheh
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Bring it. I will wear my tinfoil hat.
"Victory for liberty! That is our goal, and nothing less. -- Ron Paul, December 17, 2007"
And we should happily take credit for it
We could all send John McCain some screws in the mail to get the point across.
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LOL A couple of screws loose eh? PERFECT!!!!
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I was just speaking to some
I was just speaking to some fellow RP'ers who are helping me campaign and we would love to have you folks come up here to help us canvas. We have a whole lot of RP campaign materials to get out but this is a big state to cover. We will make anyone who comes up to help us help Dr Paul win feel very welcome and deeply appreciated. Contact one of our several Ron Paul Meetup groups or the Big Sky Free Press meetup (current events meetup #84) or submit a form on my website and let us know you are here or can come. We could sure accomplish alot if we had enough boots on the ground. Many folks here have landlines, no cell phones and no internet (although those numbers are changing as time goes by). We have a lot of rural areas that are difficult to canvas because of the vast expanse of land here....this is sooo doable! Escpecially if you folks help us out.....
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Montana: "Ron Paul Country"! Libertad
Can you envision that headline on the MSM
Help us advertise, radio, newspapers, flyers, just get out the vote, driving people to the polls or if the missed the Oct. 6th cut off drive them to county court house, (they can register and vote in person)
more people should be opening up to what we are talking about, we need to remind them of what started us in this Liberty/Freedom movement and allow them to catch up.
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Actually I'm all for RP to win Montana
By a Landslide.
Me too Texan!
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Maybe Acorn can get me on the voter registration in Montana!
I'm a little too far away here in Texas to make it up there on the fourth. Maybe they (Acorn/Obama) can do their wizardry and sign me up so I can Vote for the only real candidate. RON PAUL!
Bump for Montana!
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I'm in and I live here in Big Sky Country.
Albeit, not in a major city (there really aren't any big cities around in Montana anyway...). Have to run now, but I'll think about what can be done .
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we need a complete
we need a complete saturation of Ron Paul exposure in Montana. Can you imagine if Ron Paul won Montana?
i'll bump to that!
Would be kinda hard to ignore if RP carried the state or made a big showing.
Ha, ha!
Fox News would just skip over Montana in its state-by-state election results.
I could even see their map showing nothing where Montana should
be. As if it didn't exist.
And most Americans would look at that map and not even notice it was wrong, I bet.
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No offense to Montanans, but what is there REALLY in Montana
anyway?
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Montana has alot
I have been there 4x's by choice
OMG talk about beauty, it is incredible
the smell is unbelievably fresh with a hint of pine
the animals roam free
the people are so friendly--it's like no where else in the states
I have been to 42 states and MONTANA is by FAR my favorite
Montana "ROCKS" the 2008 Election
a victory for RON PAULITES---I can see the headlines already
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Montana has
Montana has everything--beautiful snow-capped mountains, waving fields of grain, cattle ranches, alpine lakes...it does lack large cities. But I consider that a big Plus.
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Yes, I've been to Montana and it has some nice places...though
it's been a number of years since I've been there, perhaps I've forgotten a bit of what it looks like...but I don't think so. You in Montana Kevin?
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BIG SKY!
Actually, that is the appeal of Montana....it hasn't been overrun or degraded and turned into L.A., like other former natural, rural areas (think Oregon, Colorado, and even parts of Alaska....e.g. Los Anchorage).
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Well, I KNOW that! ;-) But what's so appealing about sky??
LOS ANCHORAGE??? You think you live in Calaska?? heheheh
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It's disgusting what
It's disgusting what happened to Colorado. Wave after wave of hippies, yuppie carpetbaggers, and Republicans.
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It is Faux news.
It is Faux "news". Support Bob Bird for u.S. senate- Alaska! www.birdforsenate.com.