My Feeling.....the majority of Americans will fold like a house of cards
I am not trying to ruffle feathers here, but I have been talking to many people lately about the economic situation. If my small sampling is any indication of the rest of America, I am finding that a majority of Americans have new clue about the Fed, how money is created, why we are in this mess, that the end of America could be near, and the Constitution.
After the dollar collapses, I am almost certain that there will be chaos, I think most Americans will just want their lifestyle back and could care less about saving the Constitution. They will be more than willing to accept a new currency, laws that violate the Constitution, and mandates from a one world gov't. Some have actually said to me that we would be better off with a world currency and world gov't
It is sad, truly sad. The elite have done a good job of dumbing down the people of this country.
My feeling is that there will only be somewhere between 10-20 million Americans that will stand up for this country, the rest will just accept whatever happens.......
Let the comments fly.......
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Added comment- look, I didn't say I wouldn't fight. I am just expressing what I have experienced and my thoughts based on that experience.
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added 10/12 7:50 PM - I am glad to see the responses. I have tried to talk to people about Ron Paul. Some seem casually interested but don't take him seriously, others think he is a loon, and a few see it the way everyone here does. One of my friends is an Obama supporter. He genuinely thinks RP is a good guy and makes a lot of sense, but would never vote for him. I think this is how many Americans see him, and maybe more are paying attention to him now because of economic issues that are going on, but most think he would have no chance to win.
I have also contemplated running for a house seat one day, but I am not sure is Amerika is going to make it to 2012.
So I ask everyone, what do we do?
I like what someone posted below about starting our own country. I posted the very same thing many months ago.
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In response to the article,
In response to the article, this is why we need to be out there educating people. We need to convince them to buy food, supplies silver and gold, so that they have the power to take up the slack and stimulate local economies. Big government doesn't want us to have that power, they want us to be weak.
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It's not in their blood, so to speak.
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." Benjamin Franklin
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I think that most of them have never directly disagreed with authorities ever since they started a school.
I'm surprised that so many people are so timid about expressing themselves. Even so many Ron Paul supporters are afriaid of putting a Ron Paul bumper sticker.
This is both bad and good. The good is that there are a lot more people who support Ron Paul and his ideas than you realize.
I agree...
Unfortunately, most of the people that I encounter in my small world are only worried about their own small, self-important lives. They will "go along to get along" no matter what, it would seem. If there is a choice between temporary suffering for the ideals of freedom and liberty ("esoteric ideas" as some have described them to me directly) and the "tranquility of servitude", as Samuel Adams so eloquently put it, they will choose servitude.
The heuristics widely in use seem to be based on a relativistic frame-work based upon the "mainstream" and what amounts to an unsaid form of peer-pressure (to be "normal" one must not try to rock the boat) and not on a clear conviction of right and wrong or truth and untruth.
I know that it is a pessimistic view, but I look at it as simply being realistic.
But this only underscores the importance of the three pillars of peaceful revolution as identified by Ron Paul, education, conventional political action and civil disobedience.
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I don't know about you ...
but my life is blessed by the people I meet. Ones who are preparing, getting ready, doing what they can now to educate people. Good people who are aware. The next best people to talk to are the transients.
Most of those I could not convert
to RP think exactly as you speak. I don't doubt what you say. All they want is their life of cush back. They could care less about the constitution.
so think about this
if a new currency is introduced, then frn's would be sold for pennies on the dollar, but your mtg and other loans are denominated in dollars, so wouldn't you be able to get $100,000 or so for say $A10,000 and pay off your mtg? just a thought
I asked this question...
and got some pretty good answers. Basically if you get your property now,and pay it off before hyperinflation sets in you would be able to get out OK. But remember, as I was reminded, that 99.9% of bank loans can be "called in" at any time, which means you either pay or lose your home. Why would theydo this? To shore up their books, it would be better for the banks to have property on their books than a bunch of worthless loans for property in FRN's. Anyway, that is what I got out of my replies when asking this. So either way we're just going to try and get our land paid off ASAP.
Sadly, I agree with you.
Sadly, I agree with you. I think all of us here need to start a new country and bring the Constitution with us (as seeing the majority of Americans have little use for it now anyway). The elite truly rule the sheeple!
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This is what blows my mind every day
...actually, it saddens me when i turn the computer on and see crap like this:
Is this truly where the majority of American brain's are tuned? Or is it just another controlled media trick?
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It is sad how stupid most Americans really are
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I agree.
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." Benjamin Franklin
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Most internet searches revolve around porn, music and games.
So that list is still bogus. Fortunately for leaders, most men do not think. But when people did search for political material they were far more likely to type "Ron Paul" than "Barrack Obama" or "John McCain" in 2008.
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Don't underestimate your fellow Americans the way Ron Paul did.
He has said many times that he never dreamed there would be so many Americans interested in liberty- he was talking about YOU and ME!
When someone else becomes president in January, blame the mainstream media and CFR cronies all you want, for they are culpable, but the FUNDAMENTAL reason Dr. Paul won't be president was his personal belief that he didn't stand a chance of winning.
Let's not make the same mistake. What we think affects what we do.
DON'T ASSUME AMERICANS ARE NOT INTERESTED IN LIBERTY!
Instead, talk to your friends and neighbors about liberty. Just because Ron Paul's campaign for president is over does not mean our work is finished. Put those slim jims to work and wake up a few people.
RP was pleasantly surprised
because he underestimated the number of Americans interested in freedom and liberty. He thought the number might be smaller than it turned out to be, and newbies are waking up every day.
However, my personal experience tells me that you will not be pleasantly surprised if you underestimate the ignorance and stupidity of Americans in general. Life experience tells me that the minds of as many as 80% of Americans have been mismanaged by our education system to the point where they will submit to any notion force-fed to them through the MSM, especially television. These people have the ability to think for themselves but they have been conditioned to allow the "government" to do the thinking for them while they watch their favorite TV programming.
I still believe that a force of 10 million freedom and liberty patriots can turn this thing around. But we might have to conduct an intervention with our fellow Americans to end their addiction to television and get them thinking for themselves again. No, I don't have a plan...yet.
I agree with what you say
but I also think this is a great opportunity to educate people. When things really start heading south a lot of people will start asking questions - and we have to be there to show them the light.
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Do you really think there's at least....
9,999,999 more American patriots willing to fight and die for the same principals our founding fathers did?
I have a better idea. How about getting elected to local or state office? How about filling the ranks of local and state government instead?
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Yes Yes Yes. Each elected office we take multiplies our voices. Water commissioner, sanitation commission board member, city council, school board. Please get elected.
How about getting elected to local or state office? How about filling the ranks of local and state government instead?
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I was thinking yesterday that a good analogy of what perferred American life has become. People want to live in a subdivision with strict covenants, they like giving away their freedom so they can live in a perfect enviroment (so they think). You get a lien on your house if you park all night on the street, no clothes lines (even in the backyard), the board must approve the color of your house. This is crazy to me, but those people dig it. They like being told what to do and don't want to be bothered with personal liberty. Those people just want to watch football and go to the mall.
I live in the "old west". Rural living is true Americana. We compromise, fight and eventually things work their way out. One neighbor is a complete pig, I call his place "the landfill on the left", one neighbor won't speak to us over an irrigation dispute, got a hole shot through an irrigation line last year, called the sheriff, problem solved. But I can paint my house whatever color I want, build a chicken coop and have a rooster. A FREE society isn't "perfect". Freedom isn't free, it comes with a lot of compromise and sacrafice, but it is sure worth it to me.
I agree with what you say
but I also think this is a great opportunity to educate people. When things really start heading south a lot of people will start asking questions - and we have to be there to show them the light.
Ron Paul people need to be
Ron Paul people need to be prepared to step up for public office positions. Even the reluctant ones will have to reconsider because, I believe the country is going to be completely gone without us.
I was thinking the exact
I was thinking the exact same thing...you beat me to it.
I agree 100%
The majority can be sold any bullshit
As long as it doesn't interfere with their TV watching.
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Let the sheep die.
True patriots are prepared and will survive.
"The Constitution was written not to regulate you in any way, the purpose of the Constitution is to restrain the government." Ron Paul.
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Of course they will
If a majority of Americans knew about the Constitution we wouldn't be in this mess in the first place.
It's amazing that not so long ago people were reading Hayek's Road to Serfdom and apparently understanding it. Where the hell are these people now?
Dead or dying...
...and their children are products of the gov't indoctrination gulags. So of course their reading skills leave something to be desired....
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Someone told me
she likes having her head in the sand. Ugh! What can I say, things won't turn around until they realize they are going to be exterminated like bugs.
Didn't many of these Americans
including you and I just lose 10-20% of our home value? Didn't millions of Americans just get 20% of their pensions wiped out of existence? I agree with the poster. If we all just got taken for at least $10,000 a piece, which would be a low estimate, how come we are all just sitting here typing? We all need to do something for liberty every week. They just stole a shitload of our money!!!! My wife's father just lost $30,000 of his pension this month, I say the only rule now, is there are no rules-first for them, and now for us.
till they lose everything
till they lose everything they will not fight.. but when a man has nothing to lose that is when he is dangerous!
"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson
I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain
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comfort...
feels like freedom.
Speak for yourself..
I, personally, intend to fold like a lawn chair which is much studier than a house of cards.
I did think about this... it will be very tough. The lure of the 'good life' we remember will be quite a draw, even if it no longer exists. Family, kids, etc. sure have a way of weighing on your mind when bellies get hungry.
How will you, personally, handle your situation?? Only time will tell.
I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...
Do you know how many of the population ...
fought in the War for Indepenadace?
Around 4%. If 10 million stand up that is more than enough.
I do however agree with your analysis, most so called americans (they only get a lower case "A") will fold and willing become slaves to the NWO.
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Let's face it...
...the majority of "Americans" have ALREADY folded "like a house of cards" on NUMEROUS occasions. For atrocities like the income tax (slavery), property taxes (you don't own "your" property, if you're paying rent on it), fiat money (blatant theft), murderous wars (almost of all which were the result of false flag events), driver's licenses (controlling your ability to travel), SSN's (tracking your every financial move), myriad obvious infringements on 2nd Amendment rights (gov't will tell you if you're "allowed" to defend yourself or not), etc., etc., etc. Of COURSE they'll fold again for the NWO. They've been doing it all along.....
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And the vast majority of laws passed in the last ...century
have been unconstitutional.
It was that way when most of us were born (few living were around before FDR & the 29 crash).
Virtually NO one living remembers using actual Gold coins in commerce.
And the "Greatest Generation" [sic] grew up thinking FDR (the President-for-life) was the "savior" of our nation and his concepts of Federal Government as a "paternalistic" entity were ingrained in their blood while they were young kids, burned into their egos during WWII, and then integrated into their college degrees and paychecks after the war... never to be questioned, never to be corrected.
And they made damned sure to...
...burn it into THEIR kids' brains/egos, too (i.e. baby boomers). And thus, here we find ourselves, on the cusp of total enslavement. Thanks ever so much, "Greatest Generation [sic]"....
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Excellent explanation.
You nailed it.
Keep the faith man..
I know exactly how you feel.
I've had people in a conversation who say "well so what if there was a one world currency and government? We'd probably be better off." And i explain to them that a bigger govt. will cause more interruption in our daily lives than we currently tolerate via taxes, more controlling laws, unjust wars, etc.
But keep the faith...
Just the other day, out of the blue, i got a text message from a friend and an Obama supporter: Ron Paul is alright in my book.
Me:: AWESOME! Why all of a sudden?
Him: I just stumbled on his video on youtube. That man is speaking the truthl I see the light.
(can you believe it? he said "i see the light!")
Me: YES!!!
I later had a conversation while working out and he said that if Ron Paul was still running, he'd change his vote.
CB
he said that if Ron Paul was still running, he'd change his vote.
Chuck Baldwin is running and is Ron Paul endorsed.
The problem is on the day
The problem is on the day each of these "I see the light" experiences occur, thousands of idiots just turned voting age.
marlow
Exactly. The thing these
Exactly.
The thing these people don't get is that Wash. D.C. is a distant entity almost like they're on another planet. Now, if this is the case and most people think like this, what do people think would happen if it became a world govt body? How accessible would it be then?
America's domestic problems are directly related to Wash.D.C. being more concerned about the world instead of here at home. Tell that to any sheep and they'll agree but yet they'll go out and vote for Obama--Mr. Global!!!
It makes me want to SPIT!!!
Sad but true. I stay in
Sad but true.
I stay in touch with my friends & family back home by email--probably 20 people--and only 3 people seem to be on my page but not fully committed like me. The others are completely lost and it drives me crazy. They're all voting for Obama too because he's not an old white guy--pathetic!!!
Honestly, the other day I was so close to sending them all a big F_ _ _ Y_ _ email and telling them to all piss off but I stopped myself. I have a feeling that email might be coming soon though....
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Honestly, the other day I was so close to sending them all a big F_ _ _ Y_ _ email and telling them to all piss off but I stopped myself. I have a feeling that email might be coming soon though....
I know exactly what you mean.
I was always the
one who let them be right. This time I have stood up for my country and spoken out and I get the f---- y-- from friends and family. Go John Mccain
=( Go NWO . They actually say things like "I sleep alot better since they passed the patriot act" I do'nt mind if they spy on me I have nothing to hide" "The Constitution needs to be changed anyway it's stupid" "You just need to deal with it and shut up! Thats the way it is. If you get in trouble going against what the government tells you to do do'nt expect us to bail you out. You get what you deserve." It makes me want to scream! aaaaghhhh!!!!!!! Sometimes it just does'nt seem real. I can do without these people family or not.
I'm already picking them
I'm already picking them out, friends and family that could potentially become my enemy. I no longer see them for what they were. They will call my name and I will not recognize them. This is just sad and pisses me off that they could be so obtuse.
Sounds
very familiar! Arggggh.
I have a feeling that we
I have a feeling that we might just be very surprised, I was at this latest show during the bailout vote. I would have never imagined that so many people would even pick up a phone to make a call to their Congressmen, must less send as many letters, emails and faxes. I think the People are getting absolutely fed up, while it may be a minority, I think it is a much larger minority than we give credit.
As I have always said, people are not naturally inclined toward rebellion or revolution, it must be incited within them due to an ever-increasing harsh circumstance, but there does come a point when they are ripe for revolution and there must be those among them to led the way. All revolutions begin as a planted seed, with the right soil and the right nutrients those seeds sprout and begin to bear fruit.
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Not only will they fold
They'll turn against anyone who stands for the Constitution and the ideals of freedom.
They is Us
Are We folding ??? Are you ???