Help! My girls are being brainwashed!

HYDROMAN

I well remember my Dad teaching me how to trust my own opinions and judgement, even when an adult in authority tried to push me into an assumption.

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Trust me, they will be much smarter if you educate them with the proper knowledge of our history and how the nation was founded not by Gov or private school indoctrination with a force fed Big Brother mentality. This country was not made with by the use of socialism nor taxation, which is a form of salvery. They are your kids. You make the call...but remember, oneday, they will be our age, too.

It seems like they train the kids from a young age to believe in the two-party system. It's kinda ridiculous. I would write to the school board if you are concerned.

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My 3rd grader has had the "mock election" going on at her school as well, not too mention all the kids keep asking "who are your parents going to vote for?"

Bless her heart, she had been answering Ron Paul!

Teacher told her that he is no longer running, and assumed that we must now be voting for McCain (*ack*). She knew well enough and said no. Then she said then we must be voting for Obama, and again she said no. My daughter came home slightly confused because her teacher claimed no one else is running...

That night, we showed our daughter the other four major candidates and explained to her their positions and differences and why they are a better choice. So she went in and explained this and our position at home. While the teacher acknowledged that there were other candidates, she told my daughter the typical, your parents are being silly, they cannot win, its a wasted vote.

So, we explained to our daughter about how many people are uninformed and not properly educated regarding politics, freedom, and our constitution. We sent her to school the next day asking her teacher to look up Badnarik's Constitution Class, as well as with the following quote:

Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost. --John Quincy Adams

Didn't hear anything more for about a week, then my daughter came home and said that the teacher had spoken to the principle and had the other four added to the school "mock ballot". That same night my wife received a very nice email from the teacher thanking us for the information and indicated that she had been a big Obama supporter, but now has changed her mind and is considering one of the other four candidates rather than a "lesser-of-two-evils" - she also asked if we had other material that she could be pointed to for reading or viewing.

This is an opportunity to educate the teachers. As a mother of five who both homeschooled and used the state indoctrination system, I found that many teachers are sincere, and are interested in learning. The most important thing, when educating the teacher, is that you are calm and do not attack them. This will only give them cause to be defensive. How receptive would you be to education while under attack? Most teachers like facts.

The second thing is, do not expect the total education of your children to come from the school system. I am very aware that the time that I spend with my children is to teach them. My kids listen to AJ, watch videos, read newspapers, etc. They do know that their teachers are not very well informed.

As several, here, have pointed out to you. Your kids sound pretty cool.

My freedom is more important than your great idea.

get them out of govt school ASAP.

"All men in power should be distrusted.." -James Madison

But if you send your kids to a state school (or even many private schools) the teachers WILL try to indoctrinate your children about politics and history.

Why are you surprised?

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My 3 kids' elementary school here in Virgina held a mock election on Monday. To my pleasant surprise, the mock ballots for 2nd grade and up presented all six candidates! My second grader voted for Chuck Baldwin and my fouth grader voted for Bob Barr! My first grader was dismayed at having only 2 choices, but she voted for McCain. Our children can and do understand about liberty!

As long as the kids are telling you what is up, you have a real opportunity to talk to them, to explain that the teacher oversimplified and to give them a real education. Your little one is leaps and bounds ahead of most already, the older just needs a little extra education, in a fun but serious way, from her parents. Most people are followers. Your children are 50-50, which puts you in pretty good shape. The younger one will be more trouble to raise, the ones who really think for themselves always are, but watching her grow, gently guiding her thought processes, will be a great joy. She will have little appreciation for being treated like a child, especially as she approaches her teen years, and those are the most wonderful children to be around. I envy you on that one!

Pat

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has done an excellent job in teaching the students about the American Revolution. One of the teachers actually "taxed" the students one pencil a day until the class revolted. lol

I had the same issue with our school teaching that there are only two choices for President. I actually like it when this kind of stuff happens. It helps my kids see that they are not always being given all options. I think it is important to explain WHY neither choice is acceptable. My son actually wrote a paper about having to pick between two evils. He got 100% on it.

I very much enjoy our public school. My kids have had a math teacher with a masters degree since 3rd grade. They are way ahead in math. My one son in 6th grade tested at college level for reading and math. My son with dyslexia is scoring in the 96th percentile for reading. I couldn't possibly provide the kind of help he is getting, The high school offers classes that can be used for college credit. There are excellent public schools out there. It can be difficult to find them. The best schools tend to be in areas where the parents have had a high level of education and are demanding a lot from the school. It has nothing to do with spending the most money. Our school is spending an average amount per student. You can always home school your children after school. I use the standard test results to find out where my kids are weak and fill in the gaps.

I went to public school and managed to find Ron Paul. I remember taking a consumer and media class in high school. We learned about marketing, media bias, and subliminal messages. It is probably why I rarely watch TV. I can't even read an article or book now without thinking about what point of view it is coming from.

Homeschooling is not the solution for everyone. How is a parent in the inner city that has difficulty reading and writing supposed to home school their children? I know a private school teacher that pulled her son out of school for a year to home school him. He came back and had to repeat 3rd grade. Many parents have no ability to teach.

-- Chuck Baldwin is closest to RP's message. --

addresses. I bet some of us from the DP would like to help educate them or give them a piece of our mind.

...They are going to inherit a very dangerous world.

Explain to them that we must start to elect candidates who will follow our constitution in all matters, but especially in matters of foreign policy and fighting wars and killing people.

Since we haven't been doing that, we are not too well thought of around the world by people who would leave us alone if we only would leave them alone.

The world is too busy living to spend their time and energy hating us. So when they do, it's only because of how we are treating them. Not because we are a free and prosperous people.

Point out that if we lead by example, instead of with force from the point of a gun, that we could repair a lot of damage done to our reputation.

Then tell them about Ron Paul, and what he did during his campaign and that the world WAS watching his message of peace and how many countries really liked him.

Then they can simply write him in!

Same situation. They give the kids a ballot with two names on it. When I first saw it and let out a howl of outrage, my superior (who considers himself conservative except in matters of health care for his disabled son --- funny how ideals go out the window when somebody wants money) rolled his eyes at me. He said, "Cmoooon. How do you expect kids to know anything else but what they see on TV anyway?"
Well, yea, that is fundamentally connected to the issue.

Furthermore, talking about politics is frowned upon at school. The one thing we definitly SHOULD be talking about (the future of our communities) is censored. Oh but let's vote, cuz we're INFORMED, thanks. This kind of hypocrisy is disgusting it's dangerous.

As long as your children are in Public Education you are a "co-owner" of their mind -- you are not the final say; in fact you have little say in the matter. Really, it's none of your business.

The system spends 8-hours per day raising your kids -- then an hour or two more of homework and test prep for 13 years!!! The Media outlets, Internet, and Video game Manufacturers own them for 3 or 4 hours every evening.

They move out, having spent 12 or 14 hours of every day under the supervision of one of the above and only 15-45mins of quality time with you (the parent). When they graduate they will be worth Minimum Wage!!

Then they go to college for more public education and marry someone who has been raised in a similar manner.

After 40 more years they will be selecting your nursing home!!

Cut back on your lifestyle and Raise Your Own Kids (make intrusions in one or all of the above areas: homeschool 2 or 3 days per week; cut out video games or internet or television and replace it with quality family time).

This is how I raised my daughter: 100% Homeschooling! No television until 12 years of age (then only movies we selected ZERO cable); No internet until she was 14 and it is highly supervised; ZERO video games; and ZERO gagetry until 17 yrs.

She graduatede from the local Junior College at 16 with an A.S degree in mathematics on less than 3hrs of homeschooling per day -- She was earning $20 per hour at 14 and $30 by 16 as an adult and highschool tutoring.

Public Ed is Impratical. If you can't homeschool get into partial homeschooling, if you can't do that get into private school -- if you can't do that do public with private tutoring.

You could probably find an 18 or 19 yr old college student to help you do "partial" homeschooling!!

There are ways to make this work -- GET ENTREPRENEURIAL ABOUT IT!!

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Wisdom is the anticipation of consequences! Tara Mata

"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it." Thomas Paine

..both my kids (10 & 14) are huge RP supporters. My daughter just wore her RP shirt to school and is even doing a project on RP for social studies. My son (10) would come home complaining that his teacher would not put RP's name up on the board during the primaries.

The school didn't steal your kids... you gave them away.

I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...

One of the best things you can teach a child is to is to have a healthy distrust of authority.

Stupid teachers help make that lesson a little easier.

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Read through some reviews for some good factoids and tidbits.

Good luck and thanks for pursuing justice. I can't stand the one size fits all education machine.

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At my high school which I graduated from in June held mock primaries, and I convinced enough of my peers to vote Ron Paul. Ron Paul had the most votes in my school, followed by Obama. I did not attend a conventional high school though...

Children do not have the life experience or general knowledge (and therefore, the capacity) to know the importance of or to unbiasly partake in mock elections. Kids know what they are taught, and their brains at this age are still very well suited for soaking up information with high rates of retention as im sure it pertains to some evolutionary survivalist physiological function of the brain.

The ability for a 4th grader to analytically deduce which candidate is the most appropriate for a specific office would be an amazing feat, while not IMpossible, certainly this is not the norm.

Ontop of complaining about elections being completely partitioned in such a polarized fashion, i would be making the argument that political education is a serious subject that can only be taught objectively, or at least as objective as possible, is through history (of which we all know even written history is filled with bias!) I would slam the schools board for otherwise allowing such a spectacle to partake in my kids school and would personally confront any and every teacher who tried to 'teach' my kid current politics. Hell if i wanted that kindof education id sit them in front of fox news for 3 hours a night. (or MSNBC, take your pick really).

Lastly, i would encourage parents to start treating political education with as high of importance as they would with sexual education. only start a lot earlier. Dont rely on your school to teach your kid , well pretty much anything that youd like to see them learn. be proactive and do some educating yourself. Remember though that without teaching your kids the proper fundamentals you run the risk of being as big of an agent for disinformation as your teachers.

to ask your teacher. "If a person votes for someone who supports and promotes an illegal and undeclared war, are they also guilty of war crimes?"

~ (halloween thing) All the other kids chose dead ones but my Natalie picked McCain! Haha go girl! Here's what she wrote:
"Here lies John McCain. He went insane so they took out his brain."
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My former high school held mock elections and a comparison of the candidates, only included McBama. Thats why I'm creating a students for Liberty club!

My daughter's school is holding mock elections as well --- and will be given two choices only. This afternoon she said that she plans on crossing off the names of Obama and McCain and writing Ron Paul instead. I will be inquiring at the school why, if there are other choices on the real ballots, why these kids are not 'exposed' to them.