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Should CFL buy TV ADs like Obama

This post is not to look back and do the should of, would of, could of, but to look forward and ask if this is something that could work for the Revolution in the future.

Obama spent 4 million to do his campaign infomercial and reached about 33.6 million people with the half hour spots.
Source: http://www.newsday.com/services/newspaper/printedition/frida...

Ron Paul raised 6 million in one day that could have paid for this type of Mainstream TV time. Even the money left at the end of Ron Paul's campaign, around 5 million, could have paid for a nationwide TV spot.

How much more might have been raised to do more TV after, and keep it building on itself?

This also would give the opportunity to talk about real issues without the filter of some talking head asking questions that have nothing to do with the real issues.

So my question is: How many would contribute to a half hour Nationwide Prime time TV spots for the Campaign for Liberty in the future? Not just for a election campaign, but as a way to inform/educate and build support.

Maybe a half hour about the Federal Reserve and the economy.

I have also posted this at Break the Matrix and Ron Paul Forums for discussion.
http://www.breakthematrix.com/content/Should-CFL-buy-TV-ADs-...
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=165627

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What seperates us is the unlimited bags of money...

Once we get them, RP is a shoe-in!

I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...

I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...

IF you could get a REAL

video guy......it seems like we have been plagued with crap TV ads.

Why not hire a professional

Why not hire a professional broadcaster and a news staff, and start a Web TV network?

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Why not start an Internet

Why not start an Internet newstalk TV network with the five million?

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I think it'd be a good idea

I think it'd be a good idea for the C4L to make ads focused on specific individual issues... explain the basics, and then direct people to the website, etc.

Maybe once a month

a different issue each month 1/2 hour or hour ads. make it a regular thing whether there is a election going on or not. kinda a monthly TV program.

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1/2 hour

Here is the Obama AD. It really kinda sucks IMHO.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtREqAmLsoA

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I'd say that ad is pretty well done, very professional.


But, that's what money buys, a good ad.

However, the content is ignorant, here's a quote from the video:

Time 4:40 - "A few weeks ago, we passed a 'Financial Rescure Plan.' It's a step in the right direction."

- Barack Obama

Ron Paul's Convention Speech

Ron Paul's Convention Speech
"Freedom brings people together." - Ron Paul

TV - great. But what

TV - great. But what networks would air the message of freedom?
If it doesn't pass their litmus test for evil you'll just get buried right?

IMHO The only way as we always come back to, is if someone at the very top of one of the stations was game, or if a Daddy Warbucks started a network for such a purpose.
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Torn, but No.

I would donate for an effort like this. However, it's a mistake to put too much into propaganda when our message of Liberty is involved. I'm actually pleased that Dr. Paul didn't just rush out and spend all of (our) his campaign money. You know campaigns are like mini-governments they are inneficient and they make silly things like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30yxHqSUva8 !!! ("He's catchin' on, I'm tellin' ya!)
Don't get me wrong, I think that commercial is probably as effective as any other silly commercial...and those people--bless their hearts, were all supporters---probably reading this forum!

What I'm focused on is starting Campaign for Liberty (Young Americans for Liberty) activist groups on college campuses. I think now is the time to hunker down and train our supporters about the political process of canvassing and all those boring details. As well as hosting debates and fun things like movie nights and documentaries.

- If you want to start one of those college groups above email me here:
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I think that would be an

I think that would be an excellent idea, a good way to spread the message of liberty the many voters that don't use the computer/ haven't heard our message. There are many voters that fall into this category and can't stand the choices put in front of them,Let's let them know that there are other options!

The masses are waiting to

The masses are waiting to hear our message.

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Liberty cannot be sold to those that don't know they're slaves.

Saying freedom is popular is about as effective as saying Muffy is popular. The American public for the most part is dumbed down and conditioned to fight each other in this false left right paradigm.
It is going to take something much more creative and powerful than a 30 minute "Campaign for Liberty" infomercial.
I gave 2300.00 to see something like this happen,BEFORE the primaries. Sorry but I just can't see the use at this point. Several million people tuned into this Obamamercial because they had been conditioned to by the MsM.
I don't think the results would be as favorable for the CFL or RP. I could be wrong.

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Yes they are conditioned

and programed to respond to certain words and images. Tap into that and you don't need to deprogram them as much as lead them in the right direction. They are sheep waiting to be herded in the direction the message tells them. WE just need to use this fact to our advantage just as the 2 parties do.

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One of the best ideas I heard

was to do a massive money bomb,and send a copy of Freedom to Fascism to every house in America. Send them to the troops as well. I would support something like this.
Figure if there are 300 million people in the USA and 1 million voted for RP.out of those 1 million maybe 100,000 people that are hard core enough to take action. What is that like 3000 people each we'd have to wake up?
We have a lot of work to do.

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I think we need

to start doing something. People need to hear our message over and over, just like they hear about everything else on television these days. Most Americans still get their info from t.v.. They have become brainwashed. So why can't we brainwash them with freedom!

I Agree

We need to use the techniques of the media to "brainwash" people with our message. TV is still the most effective means to get a message out or to sell a product. Our product is the Constitution and our message is Freedom. We do not need to reinvent the wheel.

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If CFL did a donation bomb fund raiser earned 4 million dollars

I believe 4 or 5 million spent on a national billboard campaign for CFL promoting its web site and Ron Paul's message with Ron Paul's picture and name on all billboards would do a lot more good than waste it on TV that the reporters would not give much if any coverage.

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No....

The CFL should do what I suggested to Ron Paul's incompetent presidential campaign almost a year ago, which is provide downloads of pertinent videos and post links (as does DAILY PAUL) to others. Buying mainstream media time feeds the enemy, giving them money and credibility.

not now

SAVE the money for the 2012 election campaign..
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Absolutely! I would support

Absolutely! I would support this 100%!!!!

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I wish Ron Paul would have

I wish Ron Paul would have done this last October! he had the money!

"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson

I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain

"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson

I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain

Yes, I hope they seriously

Yes, I hope they seriously consider this. In addition, hope they have newspaper page for download so that grassroots can continue on their own funding place of these ads in large newspapers. Still need to reach the off the web audience.

http://www.ohiofreedom.com/subd/

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I just put the C4L slimjim

I just put the C4L slimjim in our local paper in color. It cost $307.00, but I did it. It was on the back page. I hope it got read. I might contribute to an ad if I saw the ad, and thought it was worth it..

I think it would be

I think it would be great!

"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson

I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain

"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson

I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain

Yes. That should be just one of the things that CFl should

do in the future. It is a good start.

Your "conscience" is the measure of the honesty of your selfishness. ~Author Unknown

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I would support something

I would support something like that with $$$ and time...

I think the campaign for

I think the campaign for 2012 should start immediately.
In 1824 the people campaigned for Andrew Jackson to be president in 1828.They wanted change and back then you had to commit to it for years.
Discuss it with everyone,vote for,campaign for the candidates that uphold the constitution.When 2012 comes around the president will be a third party candidate.
If and i hope when the cfl announces that this campaign continues,everyone that can,should donate to spread the message to all.

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Agreed - WHO IS OUR NEXT RP???

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A good question. Ron Paul

A good question.
Ron Paul will be 77 by 2012,and Nader will be 78.I wouldn't disqualify these two just because of age alone.It's a matter of how sharp will they be.But a lot of people will be turned off because of age.
Baldwin is a good candidate.Maybe a vice president from another major third party?
I would rather have a president that fears god then one that fears nothing and rules with a iron fist(continued wars with no conscious,a disregard of it's people,the idea that government should mold you.....etc.

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There is only one.

Ron Paul is one of a kind. We don't have another one like him. Not that there aren't good people, rather that Dr. Paul is the only nationally known figure with a proven public record of defending the Constitution against all odds.

That being said, our next best choices are probably Gary Johnson and Jesse Ventura. I'm still hoping that Dr. Paul can be convinced to run again.

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I would contribute

to something like that. A half-hour spot to show people why the Federal Reserve is a fraud (or at least get them started) and point them toward some kind of action.

They could also do one on the income tax, fiat currencies, etc.
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I don't have much, but I

I don't have much, but I would kick in a few bucks if we could get it aired.

Pat

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My question is

How many would contribute to a half hour Nationwide Prime time TV spots for the Campaign for Liberty in the future? Not just for a election campaign.

Maybe a half hour about the Federal Reserve and the economy.

Can anyone answer the question?

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I would contribute.

LivingTheDream

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Even if we had the money...

... MSM would not have aired the spot no matter what. MSM is on the take for the globalist agenda. OpenRevolt said something that caught my eye.

"Perhaps he's waiting for something?"

The answer is in your DP name. It's Open Revolt.

I think money talks.

LivingTheDream

LivingTheDream

I think part of the problem is that Ron Paul has become

Insulated a bit from society. He's been fighting for this Constitutional Government that doesn't exist for so long that he's just happy to stir the pot of poison instead of throwing it over. Perhaps he's waiting for something? One thing for sure is that Ron Paul was a lot more direct and confrontational when he ran for President under the Libertarian Nominee.

Someone like Jesse Ventura or Alex Jones is willing to make it very simple: It's them VS us and they've been planning to wipe us out culturally, spiritually, and economically for their global agenda.

Ron Paul instead makes it about policies... IE, if we could just change some policies... well then everything would be great.

But the idea of fighting a policy only appeals to intellectuals for the most part and not to the base need to survive that most people are driven by.

That's why when many of us were talking to people about the dollar there eyes would just sort of glaze over and they would shrug. It's a pity Ron Paul in all of his years of speaking didn't have a better method for marketing his message.

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One thing we do NOT need in

One thing we do NOT need in a presidential candidate is the vehement reactionism to appeal to the angry mob of sheep ready to run around with pitchforks.

Alex Jones is a good pundit, but not a leader who could command the respect of diverse followers; Jesse Ventura is good at using his reputation to ask questions and get attention doing so, but he wouldn't be trusted as a leader - he's too opaque.

Issues and philosophy are necessary to define any movement, and in the end will be the only things which bring about principled and measured change. Gut reactions sometimes help people to wake up, but give them no direction. There is a place and a need for both in our movement, but the leaders of our movement must offer more than bile.

But what about the question?

But what about the question?

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i agree totally

I was all about Ross Perot and was pushing for the sort of marketing that he did to earn his place centerstage during his campaign- we had the money. I dont claim to know sh*t about how to conduct a successful campain- but I feel im on pretty solid ground stating that Ron Pauls people could have done ALOT better. I put alot of money into the Paul campaign and was not at all happy about how it was spent for the most part.

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We were all saying this like last year

I don't know what's with Ron Paul, really.

A lot of speculation from us, that's for sure.

Then again obama is getting close to a billion dollars spent.

It's absolutely insane to see how much cash they are pushing through just to shove this guy down our throats --- that's another reason I hope he loses.

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