Obama's Civilian Security Force; CFR is the Architect
Obama now calls for a civilian (Homeland Security) force:
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
My response: http://www.youtube.com/wa...
This really hit me in a powerful way. I've actually been waiting for this issue to crop up because I had the lucky chance to hear the architect of this creepy plan speak last April on the campus of IU, Stephen Flynn (who works and writes for the Council on Foreign Relations and is an advisor to the Obama campaign). He is traveling the academic circuit promoting his ideas of modeling Homeland Security on the Federal Reserve, no joke!--because, in his view, "Congress is not capable of making the tough decisions necessary for protecting the homeland."
When will the real conservatives wake up and notice that our Constitution is nearly all the way down the drain? - perhaps already down in the sewer.
NPR includes audio from Stephen Flynn and confirms that Flynn is an unpaid advisor to the Obama campaign: http://www.npr.org/templa...
Here is a direct quote from Obama advisor, Stephen Flynn:
The United States should roughly replicate the Federal Reserve model by creating a Federal Security Reserve System (FSRS) with a national board of governors, 10 regional Homeland Security Districts, and 92 local branches called Metropolitan Anti-Terrorism Committees. The objective of this system would be to develop self-funding mechanisms to more fully engage a broad cross-section of American society to protect the country's critical foundations from the widespread disruption that would arise from a terrorist attack.
http://www.foreignaffairs...
Do I even need to quote the founding fathers to any of you?
The management of foreign relations appears to be the most susceptible of abuse, of all the trusts committed to a Government, because they can be concealed or disclosed, or disclosed in such parts & at such times as will best suit particular views...
Perhaps it is a universal truth that the loss of liberty at home is to be charged to provisions agst. danger real or pretended from abroad.
- James Madison
Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. - Benjamin Franklin atrib.
These quotes from Obama:
"We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."
...don't come out of nowhere.
http://www.cfr.org/bios/3...
This is the wave of the future under McCain or Obama.
The sneaky thing about this Stephen Flynn guy (who I believe is the architect for this semi-privatized Homeland Security plan)
is that he says all of the politically correct things; he is critical
of Bush and the "War on Terror." However, he compartmentalizes everything in the name of "efficiency."
http://newsinfo.iu.edu/ne...
Hold on for the ride.
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This is what's really happening -
Three points -
1. You, IMHO, don't get it
2. I'll explain what they're really up to
3. Its an opportunity to de-construct the doomed Military-industrial complex
Read this on Thomas Barnett:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pentagon's_New_Map
"Barnett was asked by the United States Air Force to give the presentation to every new officer who attained the rank of General."
...
"Key Ideas:
4. To be successful the US military must stop thinking of war in the context of war but war in the context of "everything else", i.e. demographics, energy, investment, security, politics, trade, immigration, etc.
5. In recognition of its dual role, the US military should organize itself according to two functions, the "Leviathan" and the "System Administrator."
Leviathan's purpose is employ overwhelming force to end violence quickly. It will take out governments, defend Core countries, and generally do the deterrence work that the US military has been doing since the end of WWII. The Leviathan force is primarily staffed by young aggressive personnel and is overwhelmingly American.
The SysAdmin's purpose is to wage peace: peacekeeping, nation building, strengthening weak governments, etc. The SysAdmin force is primarily staffed by older, more experienced personnel, though not entirely (he would put the Marines in SysAdmin as the " Mini-me Leviathan"). The sys Admin force would work best as a Core-wide phenomenon."
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Obama's handlers want him to draft his homies into the SysAdmin core. They're not telling them this now. Its a nasty surprise that will be sprung on them after we're at war with Iran or Pakistan.
Our opportunity comes when the war protests start, along with the food and fuel shortages. They think Obamas going to shower them with prosperity, LOL.
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Interesting Stuff Thanks
EEeeek, I just got back from a Sarah Palin Rally in Reno - I went to try to ask her a question---didn't get a chance. But I did get lots of interviews of the people mad about the Bailout. Dean Heller, US NV-2 rep. actually dissed the Bailout from the podium before Sarah walked out. Nobody mentioned that McCain voted for it!
I'm trying to call coast to coast right now to talk about this privatization of homeland security plan. Wish me luck.
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I'm a little disturbed...
by all the talk about creating a more violent future. Are we really that insecure? Come on folks. We are heading towards what reminds me of the Star Trek episodes where humans finally faced with the choice of either wiping eachother out, or obtaining a higher consciousness and transcending all this violence. We should be talking about the issues and repairing our lost integrity around the issues, not creating a "security" force. This will be tough, especially when the media is always using words like "war on terror" to whip us into a frenzied herd of lambs. I don't buy all this warmonger talk within our own country. Let's face it, a bunch of people in the desert in the middle east are no threat to us. The gov't wants to use our fear to create a military state. Don't give in to that fear.
Intentionally Ambiguous
I just listened to the speech. Obama jumps quickly from talking about one group to another: Americorp, veterans, peacecorp, etc. I believe he put out the "civilian peace keeping" comment as a trial balloon that is deliberately ambiguous so it can be denied later if necessary.
Remember, he is a Lawyer / POLITICIAN, not a statesman!
CFR's Stephen Flynn is Obama's Advisor
I see what you folks are saying. Even if I'm wrong or this is "out
of context," Flynn is Obama's advisor - and he wants to privatize
Homeland Security...Mr. Flynn uses the terms that Obama is using.
Even if I'm wrong, again, check into this Stephen Flynn guy - he is the
future of policy...I met him myself. He is amazing and creepy at the same
time.
Let me tell you a story about Flynn. After he spoke I stood around listening
to some of the IU professors talk to him. One of the worshipping professors said, "You, know? Your talk was so dramatic; You should make movies, I'm serious..." And Flynn replied, "It's funny that you should say that, because I was just meeting with some Hollywood directors."
I couldn't believe my ears. You can't write that stuff! This guy is as slick as they come. Watch for him. CFR's Stephen Flynn.
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I doubt anyone's disagreeing
I doubt anyone's disagreeing with you about Flynn and his connections to Obama, but taking issue with the particular bit of the Obama speech you used as lead in. Nevertheless, I agree with you that Flynn is a potential weapon against personal liberty.
Personally, the worst part of the Obama/McCain candidacies are the scum they have as "unpaid campaign advisors." Not only are Obama and McCain repellent politicians, they're both surrounded by dangerous and powerful leeches and pirates who will become cabinet members after inaugeration day. For example, Randy Scheunemann is a poisonous man who would be instrumental in keeping McCain locked in wars all over the world.
Here is the whole speech
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
I shared this with some people not on here and here is the feedback I received from a friend.
"Okay, I just saw the part in the large video. It starts at about 16mins in. He's referring to the Peace Corp. If you listen to the entire quote within context, you can tell he's not talking about a paramilitary type of thing. But if someone with an agenda just snips that quote and plays it, then it sounds that way. There's was nothing shady about what he said when you hear the whole thing."
Do you agree with this reasoning? Did you watch the whole video?
How would you respond to someone who is not on this RP board and had just watched the whole video?
I have my own thoughts on this, but I want to share with all of you.
Obama is not dumb...
I think this speech was very carefully orchestrated. We consider that this portion of the speech was taken out of context, but I contend that it was purposely written and delivered in this fashion. How can the term SECURITY FORCE coupled with JUST AS POWERFUL, JUST AS STRONG and JUST AS WELL FUNDED AS OUR MILITARY be construed as an unarmed group of park cleaners and tree planters? How can a group of "Community Service Volunteers" be termed a "Security Force" and be as powerful as our military without being trained and armed? How can a community service organization be vital to our NATIONAL SECURITY OBJECTIVES?
This portion of the speech was not taken out of context. It was deliberately planted in a speech about community service in order for those of us picking up on it to be dismissed as taking it out of context. In addition, the President can say that the public was made aware of the idea with minimal objection, thereby claiming public support.
This is the way of President Obama and his administration: Watch the left hand so you don't notice what the right hand is doing.
Scenario: Israel is making a statement regarding Iran. In the statement, Israel says, "We want nothing but peace with Iran and will make every effort to do so. In the mean time we are going to create an Iranian Security Force that is just as strong, just as powerful and just as well funded as our current military. If we continue to strive for peace, we are certain that peace can be accomplished."
Would you say the Iranian Security Force comment was taken out of context? Would you think that meant a group of people that were going to go to Iran and plant crops and clean up trash and work on community service projects for Iran?
The bottom line is that Obama supporters are so desperate to believe in him that they are ignoring the facts and signs that indicate what his true intentions for this country are.
I am not a paranoid person, but after years of military service and life's experience, I have learned to trust my instincts. My instincts tell me that this was not taken out of context, and this president is a direct threat to the Constitution and our way of lives. I will trust my GUT over Obamas promises any day of the week.
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I agree that the clip in
I agree that the clip in this video is taken out of context of the speech in order to tie to S. Flynn of the CFR. That said, Obama still keeps community organizing as the centrepiece of his speech.
He wants community activist organs to improve energy, use veterans as go-betweens to other veteran groups, increase diplomatic ties, and international outreach programs, all connected by "technology." Sounds reasonable on the outside, but they could be paramilitary in operation if put into the wrong hands.
His militarized community energy corps could see SA-style "block wardens" patrolling neighborhoods and searching peoples' homes for energy-wasting light-bulbs, appliances, and practices. The old WWII phrase "Turn out that light!" might have grim meaning if these SA men start reporting their neighbours to a flying court for crimes against earth.
Veterans of course must be a part of any of these community groups, since they already have military discipline and experience and can put it to use mobilising the citizenry into cooperate with the SA men.
Diplomatic and international groups are also important insofar as Obama is an internationalist and would like these groups infiltrated with this philosophy.
I have a theory that the WWII "Block Warden" mentality did not go away after VJ Day but continued long into the 1950s with the red scare. I have the feeling that Obama would like to resurrect this mentality for use in mobilizing the communities, but keep it firmly under his control rather than letting it get carried away and then fizzle away like the red scare did.
It would be a fitting tribute to Ayer's concept of the permanent revolution from below.
"Obama didn't mean that!" SS NAZI FORCES
I see what you are saying and yes I did watch the whole clip. I address this in video 2 (below). Even if this is out of context - the phrase "civilian national security force," has been talked about by Stephen Flynn. I met Stephen Flynn and saw him talk in April. Only 2 days ago, I found out that he is an advisor to Obama! In a nutshell:
Stephen Flynn is an advisor to Obama on Homeland Security.
Stephen Flynn wants to model Homeland Security on the Federal
Reserve. Obama has declared, "We've got to have a civilian national
security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."
I attended a lecture by Stephen Flynn (fellow from the CFR) at Indiana University in April.
He stated almost exactly this phrase uttered by Obama above. It was only 2 days ago that
I found out that Stephen Flynn is an unpaid advisor to Sen. Obama.
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/wa...
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/wa...
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Its a little late for an
Its a little late for an Obama SA, which is effectively what this is. Hitler's SA was instrumental as a grassroots "Get out the [nazi] vote" organization. Perhaps Obama will use his SA for the reelection campaign. But seriously, this is scary. AS a historian, I feel like I'm getting a nervous twitch whenever I hear another Obama scheme coming down the pipes. This community organization activist-turned-candidate seems to be taking his cues from repressive regimes of the past, either consciously or otherwise. Power is everything once you have it, and if there's a climate favorable to total power, then we know what happens! And that's the worst part: we can see what's happening, see the future, predict what will come, and still feel powerless to stop it.
My thoughts exactly
This is how fascist dictators get into power and stay in power.
Scary.
HELLO!!!!
and you wouldn't join this "securtiy" force? Why not? Our movement would be in a perfect position to help organize and run this group. We would have resources and training. This would be a good thing. They can make up votes and steal elections. They can't make up real people.
Well, the problem is
brainwashing. You know that old saying about laying down with dogs with fleas. How would you know a good security person from the bad security person, I don't think you could trust any of them because they would turn you in.
The NWO has no "people" resources
It is an illusion. "WE" are real. Our community leaders should get the funds and head the units. They could never stop this. There message is carried by their media and events they create. If we became leaders in this security force, we would have direct contact with "people". If not, they will create their own force and we will have no chance.
Well, you do have a point
my greatest fear is that people would change and start acting gestapo like.
I also made a part 2: OBAMA AND CFR
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
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This is what we need
Stop the paranoid crap and think about it. "We" can become the security force. "We" are probaly the only ones that will jump at the chance to join. "We" will be the regional leaders. ETc, ETC, etc....... America needs a credible militia.
This is Blackwater, isn't it?
Well, Blackwater on steroids, literally.
Can you say
P O L I C E __ S T A T E ?
Poll time!
If the soldiers and tanks come rolling down your street to pick up insurgents (one grandma a day), where would you rather be:
A) Somewhere else.
B) Behind the bushes, 15 + 1 hollow point rounds ready.
C) Behind the MG of the tank, line of soldiers conveniently in front of you.
Just polling. Not suggesting anything.
Our Founder's "Civilian National Secuity Force" vs Obama's.....
"Civilian National Security Force" . Our Founder's believed in a " Civilian State Security Force" structure, from the "bottom up". Obama and his adviser, Stephen Flynn's "Civilian National Security Force" will be structured from the "top down".
All of our Founder's were, or had been part of the Colonial Militia. It had been a way of life in America for about 150 years at the time they wrote the Constitution and "Bill of Rights". They believed it was the most important institution of government and without it we cannot remain a self governing, free people. "A well regulated Militia is necessary for the security of a free State..... The www.CommitteesofSafety.or... are working with State legislators and will be providing statutes in revitalizing the "Militia of the several States" . And yes, it will be structured from the "bottom up", empowering "We the People" in becoming self-governing and free.
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good one
dugg 10
One more thing to say
when people ask me why I think Obama is a marxist and potential dictator figure. This is a great post, thanks for putting it together. I had not seen that clip before.
The Pakistanis got the right idea!
Read the following NY Times article
http://www.nytimes.com/20...
Cliff notes version: The Pakistani civilians are the most effective force in fighting the Taliban in their country --Not their police, who are corrupt, in cahoots with the Taliban, or are not paid enough to fight for the people they are sworn to protect. Not their army, which destroys villages to save them. No, common, everyday civilians motivated to protect their loved ones, their homes, and their businesses. The six bad guys who attacked a police station were offed by the local folk practicing RBKA. Look up the Coffeyville bank raid, and see the parallels. We don't need no stinkin' civilian security force paid by our taxes----We have enough honest and qualified citizens to put a rifle behind every blade of grass!
But of course, that would put too much power in the hands of the people! The government cannot have that!
Conscience does not exist if not exercised
"No matter how cynical you get, it's impossible to keep up!
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Brown shirts or Mao's Red Guard...
Either way it is not right. But nothing the CFR touches is good for this country by design.
robpatozz
www.trueworldhistory.info
www.campaignforliberty.co...
Exactly right -
If this is CFR it will not in any way be benign. CFR is not your friend.
Ah, Hello!!!!
We already have the organization, etc. CFL members could move into these new security positions. This is what America needs. "We" become a credible force that takes responsibility for our communities. I suggested the same thing a year ago. This is the ONLY way America could protect itself. By letting the "people" organize and do it themselves. This is not a bad idea.
Wait wait, turn this around....
Join up!! Can any of you say the Constitutionally Mandated militia?? This might just be a great way to get the militias going RIGHT UNDER THEIR NOSES!!!
this smells more of
the german brown shirts than any sort of grassroots organization.
Get ready for the Obama
Get ready for the Obama Youth and the American Brownshirts
the fed and the irs
are the vehicles that move the cfr.
Obama,
wants the civilian defense force to have the same capabilities as the military.
Talk about a police state, gimme a break.
"The Constitution was written not to regulate you in any way, the purpose of the Constitution is to restrain the government." Ron Paul.
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
So will McCain do the same thing? Or will McCain surprise us?
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is that your youtube
account that this is linked to?
yes
One of them - the one for the job I'm on with the Leadership Institute - conservative think-tank.
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Updated with Video Response
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Please watch and rate/favorite/spread if you think it is worthy.
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thanks for the video
I rated and comment'd
I hope this is the final straw for you DP Obama voters!
Can any of you still vote for Obama after this?
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Do you feel a draft?
My guess is (among other maybe even more sinister reasons), it is about bringing the draft through the backdoor. Young people will be oblidged to to do civilian community services but will get an exemption if the join the armed forces. Talk about this to Obama fans who do only expect candy from president Hussein.
Don't blame the rest of the world.We did vote for Ron Paul!
Here the world may vote third party! (Ron Paul is leading alternate)
Some Obvious Foundin' Fathers
The management of foreign relations appears to be the most susceptible of abuse, of all the trusts committed to a Government, because they can be concealed or disclosed, or disclosed in such parts & at such times as will best suit particular views...
Perhaps it is a universal truth that the loss of liberty at home is to be charged to provisions agst. danger real or pretended from abroad.
- James Madison
Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. - Benjamin Franklin atrib.
(just wanted to add this to the mix)
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Does this mean...
Does this mean more concealed carry, and a let-up on the harsh gun and militia laws in many states?
If so, I might find it difficult to argue against.
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not quite
obama has stated in no uncertain terms that he is totally against concealed carry for everyone but law enforcement. you can look it up online- i'm too tired to cite a link.
this is more reminiscent of hitler's youth/ss than of 'well-regulated militia.'