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More important than the election, will be the Bretton Woods II financial summit on Nov. 15, 2008.

Behind the scenes, many believe the US is calling this meeting in an attempt to desperately hold on to the illusion that the US is still the dominant financial power in the world.

In reality, it looks like the international bankers have already shifted their allegiance to a new financial world order where the US is looked at as a wounded player, being heavily in debt and beyond it's prime.

The major growth areas for the next 50 years will be in the BRIC countries, (Brazil, Russia, India and China) and the emerging markets. Therefore the international bankers have lost interest in the US and are now consolidating their efforts to exploit the newest areas of global growth.

While they will try to take advantage of the US military (and taxpayers) to be the policemen of the world, in reality the dye has been cast.

The following website has a lot of good commentary on what is really going on behind the scenes.

http://www.nakedcapitalis...

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Yet no protest planned at all

This is where every AMerican who gives a damn ought to protest. This is where the New World Order will be finalized, this is where we need an asteroid to strike.

The main point some of the commentators

are making is that the emerging countries may have a different world order in mind from the US and Europe.

In a nutshell China with its larger population which is largely debt free, is now more desirable that the US.

November 15th....Hedge Fund "D" Day

I don't think the financial summit being held on November 15th is a coincidence. November 15th should be as rough day for Wall St.....from the article below....

"""""Reuters reports that November 15th (45 days before year end) is “D-Day” for the hedge fund industry. Problem is, the more this is reported, the more investors are likely to want to redeem.""""""""

Stigma of redemption gates fading fast
Nov 3rd, 2008 |
Apparently, the stigma associated with closing redemption gates is quickly disappearing. As Thomson reports,

Blocking investors’ exits, even if only briefly, was once a highly unusual move that often signaled a hedge fund was on the verge of collapse, managers and investors acknowledged…That is changing now as ever-more managers and investors engage in a tug of war over who can receive money right now.”

Wealth Bulletin cites 6 hedge fund managers that have suspended redemptions and several that have offered “sweeteners” for investors to stick around. The list of new gates includes: Centaurus Capital, Polygon Investment Partners (old news), Gottex Fund Management, Wermuth Asset Management, Auriel, and Atlantis Investment Management. According to the publication, favorable fee sweeteners have been offered in exchange for locking-in capital at: RAB Capital, Ramius Capital, BlueBay Asset Management and Henderson Global Investors.

The Times reports on an interesting twist. RAB Capital, says the paper, is offering a form of IOU to investors that promises to pay them out as soon as the firm can sell the requisite securities (not, we assume, at some later redemption date).

The ground isn’t the only thing being frozen in Minnesota this fall. Investment News reports that Deephaven, the $1.6 billion multi-strategy fund, froze redemptions when 30% of investors asked for their money back. Apparently the fund was up 16% per year for 10+ years, then hit the skids with a -25% YTD by the end of October.

Meanwhile in Australia, long-only funds have also closed their redemption gates. According to Bloomberg, Perpetual Ltd. has suspended redemptions from its income and mortgage funds while Everest Babcock & Brown has suspended redemptions from its own income fund.

A letter from Pentwater Capital to its investors gives some insight into how redemptions affect fund management. HedgeCo.net reports that the firm recently created two different liquidity/fee classes and told investors: “The entire hedge fund industry is bracing for large redemptions at year-end so as not to become forced sellers in the midst of a severe market crisis…If the Fund were to meet the year-end redemption requests we have received, the Fund would be forced to sell more of its investments into one of the worst markets since the great depression.”

The Wall Street Journal estimates that the recently imposed gates govern around $20 billion, although it’s not clear what it defines as “recently”.

Although the notice period required to redeem from a hedge fund can range from 30 days to 90 days, Reuters reports that November 15th (45 days before year end) is “D-Day” for the hedge fund industry. Problem is, the more this is reported, the more investors are likely to want to redeem. Reuters cites experts who say funds of funds are redeeming 15-20% from their underlying managers just in case.

One manager warns that the rush for the exits creates a self-fulfilling prophecy. David Thompson of Collingham Capital told a conference audience in London recently that:

“One of the problems has been that investors have been getting out too quickly. You don’t want to be in the situation where you invest in something where a lot of people want to get out at the end of this month, the end of this year, or on a daily basis.”

Even regulators are weighing in on the issue of preemptive redemptions. The head of the UK’s Financial Services Authority told the same conference audience about one reason why he thinks hedge fund investors were stampeding to the exits:

“…gate structures that may have been established several years ago may need to be reviewed in order to avoid generating additional redemptions from otherwise satisfied investors taking steps to avoid being ‘at the back of the queue’.”

the dollar is strong because........

of the petrol industry, the World Bank's policies on forcing other countries who want to trade in the "World" or "Free Market" to accept it.
Taxing us doesn't really put value to the currency, it just controls the masses, because there is no true accountability.
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Uhm

Woudn't that make it "Bretton Woods III"?

Expect massive inflation after the USD gets dropped as the world reserve currency... Demand for $ will go down, hence its value plummets.

PS. Not to be a jerk but, "die" is cast =) . Alia iacta est.

WHOA!! a MUST read...ASAP!

and... read the comments section of this article. there is some REALLY good info tucked in there.

thank you for sharing ralph waldo!

GOOD RIDDENS

This would be good news for AMERICAN LIBERTY...
weee

see to your liberty

What ticks me off

is that the strength of the dollar and the return to investment in Treasuries has every appearance of being based on only one thing: the ability of the Government of the United States to hold its' citizens, corporate and otherwise, in thrall with compulsory income taxation.

The dollar's strong because

The dollar's strong because of deflation. Less spending, less new debt, etc.

btw it's "die", not "dye". Seriously...

Whalesurfer

The die is cast. — Gaius Julius Caesar

I love Roman history... learning why the Roman empire fell due to a debasement of the currency/gold standard is what made me think…WOW! That is what is happening to us. After this I got me involved in the RP movement and now the Daily Paul.

Whalesurfer

How can there be "less debt"-??



How can there possibly be "less debt"-??

We have staggering debt now, and our Government has never been in as much debt before in all of U.S. History.




Simple

Our "money" is really just "debt", and credit has been tightening up like Archie Bell and the Drells.

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The Fed looks to be back in charge

"The Fed as a central bank to the world"

"Nicolas Sarkozy may be pushing for a new financial order but Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke and U.S. Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson have beaten him to it."

"While the French President dreams of global economic cooperation ahead of the G20 summit in Washington, the Fed is quietly becoming central bank to the world, backed by the full might of the U.S. Treasury and a teflon-coated greenback."

"The U.S. dollar's status as the main currency of international and central bank business has barely been tarnished by the whole sorry credit crisis. The flight to the perceived safety of U.S. treasuries has been unstinting."

"Europe may push for something grander but Mr. Truman is wary. "If they think they're going to use this to gang up on the United States and get the United States to issue mea culpa after mea culpa and turn the supervision of our financial system over to a college of officials from the rest of G20 for the next five years, they have another thing coming," he said."

"Until the greenback falters, the United States is firmly in the driver's seat"

http://www.financialpost.com/news/story.html?id=927271

END the FED before it ENDS US

I feel like

Whoever is saying this is about to run headfirst into an "emperor has no clothes" moment.

I know what you are saying.

The Fed has been pumping dollars around the globe here lately trying to stop this trend. The question is will the emerging countries like BRIC go along.

The US is heavily in debt and it's consumers are maxed out. By doing business with other emerging markets these new economic powers get in on the early cycle growth and eager consumers who are not as much in debt.