...just look at the topic title and go into attack mode before they read the whole thing.
I'm a die hard Ron Paul supporter and have been since about 2 years before he announced that he'd run for president. I've never said a bad word about Ron Paul in my life and can't foresee ever doing so.
This topic was an attempt to belittle Bob Barr, not Ron Paul, for Christ's sake.
Doesn't matter either way. Did you notice the MSM counts always showed Obama's percent plus McCain's percent equalled one hundred percent? What third parties?
Ron Paul knew from the beginning that 3rd party is not how you win elections. Fine for the old protest but not a viable alternative to making real political change.
Back in 2005 and 2006 if you had put a hundred Republicans in a room, you would MAYBE have 3 or 4 of them stand up against the majority and vehemently defend the notions of small government, civil liberties and present a sharp critique of the Neocon agenda.
I'd wager that if you put a hundred Republicans in a room today, that me or someone like me, I could rally 15 to 16 of us. And we'd show people how to stand up to the majority.
Where it counts most. Ron Paul has achieved.
If we stay active, there's no reason why our message of respect for the constitution and humble foreign and domestic policies could not grab even more Republicans.
As an onlooker and a faithful follower of this election....I'm sorry but I am very skeptical of the count. It is hard to imagine by any stretch that Pelosi regained her seat with a whopping 71%. Imagine. I guess all the MSM pollsters were wrong there too. It is unimagineable that your third party candidates did so badly despite all the unreported press coverage of protests etc. etc. I just don't believe the numbers. !!!!! It doesn't make sense.
Live free or Diebold....that should just about cover it..The sheeple belive whatever number comes out of the media.....they are all grazing right now, and living in oblivion once again...
Has the combined third party vote ever been less than this?
I do not recall such a low total in at least the last 30 something years ... nor do I recall such saturation and biased media coverage by the new consolidated corporate media
Yes it has been lower.1984 - .6% is the lowest in 28 years(1980-2008)
On a positive note.The total vote for third party is up from 2004.
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— Samuel Adams
Of course we never did anything about the machines. Without the machines being banned we'll never know what the real percentages are, and I believe they were quite simply hacked.
The Republicans use Diebold...the Democrats have been using paper ballot fraud, the dead voting, all sorts of nonsense.
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Don't forget illegal aliens voting too(and its safe to say, that illegal aliens are likely to vote for whoever is weakest on illegal immigration and whoever is pro-amnesty, making the illegal immigration problem worse)
Look at it, the Two Party vote has never had more of a majority.
Idiots who voted for McCain, scared their vote would be wasted, which eventually, Yes it was. Your vote was wasted. Everyone who voted for McCain, Yes you wasted your vote.
Yeah the people who voted for those tyrants deserve exactly what they got comin. But I dont and neither do the rest of you.
I wonder if those people who voted for obamas character would be willing to get punched in the face for everytime he screws up. Man thier would be a whole lot less people voting for these ass clowns if that were the case.
Obama has promised the sky to these people - even if he "redistributes the wealth" which is rapidly disappearing, how is he gonna live up to what these folks are now expecting?? If he doesn't, how will they then react? He will try to blame someone else, but that won't be easy to do, as he will be mostly working with a Democrat congress I believe.
Only Ron Paul could unify the third party vote, not Barr, Baldwin or Nader or McKinney could unify them.
The LP and CP should unify by establishing an "Independence Party" on the basis of Minnesota and work with the Minnesota IP, but change their platform a bit.
Well without advertising, there's no point. Third Parties have serious problems because of the laughable rules the GOP and Democrats have set up to make them jump through hoops getting ballot access.
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One of Barr's campaign managers who threw his vote to McCain recently and he is the one who chose Root. What a slap in Barr's face. So that probably reduces Paul's blame to .9%, Dondero maybe .1% at least.
DAMN ron paul he didnt do a single thing to help this movement out! (notes the title of the website) oooh thats right hes the whole reason i 'woke up' in the first place.
Please write some sense!. How could 1,2 or 3% have ensured the election for Barr? Barr's campaign made some severe mistakes, face it. Face it, Baldwin did also work on Paul's campaign and some of his supporters were going to vote for Baldwin in any case, same with Nader, whether Paul would have endorsed Barr or not. Do you understand voluntarism?
BVerney and Cory made big mistakes. Barr simply had to attend Paul's conference, and he would have secured a lot of more money and most of the Paul's support, without Paul's endorsement of anyone specific.
even before RP endorsed him. I identify with the Libertarian Party but after much debate with myself and going over Barr's record in my head and the fact that he was an establishment man I couldn't find the trust in him to vote for him.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Benjamin Franklin
"A free people ought to be armed." George Washington
"but let it not be said that we did nothing" - Ron Paul.
Unfortunately Winston Churchill was right. Americans will do everything wrong before they do it right. They rejected the Repubics but went to the Dumbs. Hopefully when the Dumbs continue the policy, more will see the truth. This is why the campaign for 2010 and 2012 must begin tonight!
As for the third party votes, they get zero national attention or mention. Most people don't know who any of them are. I voted for Barr but the guy was clearly not the quality of Dr. Paul. And sorry but I can't vote for a party that endorses a religion in its document of principle like Constitution does. That's unconstitutional.
You people who are rabidly anti-religion are not rational. If the founding documents on which you base your political philosophy all demand recognition of religion to ensure the moral well-being of the nation, but a liberal SCOTUS decision has said religion is bad, who do you listen to? Even atheists must be more reasonable than that. I really wouldn't care, except that this issue will continue to haunt us and we must come together to take back our country. How many times did RP say that, although he is Christian, his position is to support freedom in everything? Did you ever even listen to Baldwin? He took that same position. The MSM has so villainized religion that some actually believe it is an evil force. Those people who do, have left the company of the founders.
Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.
John Adams
Patriot Act voting, etc., etc. ... looking for a way to pin his failures on a far superior man than he!! BOO HOO!
"The high office of President has been used to foment a plot to destroy the Americans freedom, and before I leave office I must inform the citizen of his plight."
- John Fitzgerald Kennedy
Barr was a GOP plant... prove me wrong?
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-- Thomas Paine
Nope.
Had Paul endorsed Barr, Paul's vote totals in MT and LA would have gone down--by about 1 vote each.
And, yes, I noted it was sarcasm.
So this is what a troll smells like
Kinda like a weasel!! 8]
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SARCASM
Is written plain as day on the OP post! Sheesh!
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Some people...
...just look at the topic title and go into attack mode before they read the whole thing.
I'm a die hard Ron Paul supporter and have been since about 2 years before he announced that he'd run for president. I've never said a bad word about Ron Paul in my life and can't foresee ever doing so.
This topic was an attempt to belittle Bob Barr, not Ron Paul, for Christ's sake.
Ah well... what can ya' do? *shrugs*
Doesn't matter either way.
Doesn't matter either way. Did you notice the MSM counts always showed Obama's percent plus McCain's percent equalled one hundred percent? What third parties?
Pat
BOHICA!!
Ron Paul = smarter than some of his supporters
Ron Paul knew from the beginning that 3rd party is not how you win elections. Fine for the old protest but not a viable alternative to making real political change.
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What real political change
What real political change did the RPR make yesterday using the GOP?
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I really don't know.
We got beaten on all fronts. So now a lot of people are saying "throw the third parties overboard", because the finger-pointing of blame has begun.
Doesn't make any sense to me at all. Voter fraud probably defeated us anyway.
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he won in the only arena that counts
Back in 2005 and 2006 if you had put a hundred Republicans in a room, you would MAYBE have 3 or 4 of them stand up against the majority and vehemently defend the notions of small government, civil liberties and present a sharp critique of the Neocon agenda.
I'd wager that if you put a hundred Republicans in a room today, that me or someone like me, I could rally 15 to 16 of us. And we'd show people how to stand up to the majority.
Where it counts most. Ron Paul has achieved.
If we stay active, there's no reason why our message of respect for the constitution and humble foreign and domestic policies could not grab even more Republicans.
pff
Bob Barr was wrong...on too much for Ron Paul to ever support him
As an onlooker and a
As an onlooker and a faithful follower of this election....I'm sorry but I am very skeptical of the count. It is hard to imagine by any stretch that Pelosi regained her seat with a whopping 71%. Imagine. I guess all the MSM pollsters were wrong there too. It is unimagineable that your third party candidates did so badly despite all the unreported press coverage of protests etc. etc. I just don't believe the numbers. !!!!! It doesn't make sense.
What is that one persons quote..
Live free or Diebold....that should just about cover it..The sheeple belive whatever number comes out of the media.....they are all grazing right now, and living in oblivion once again...
1% is worst total ever ?
Has the combined third party vote ever been less than this?
I do not recall such a low total in at least the last 30 something years ... nor do I recall such saturation and biased media coverage by the new consolidated corporate media
Yes it has been lower.1984 -
Yes it has been lower.1984 - .6% is the lowest in 28 years(1980-2008)
On a positive note.The total vote for third party is up from 2004.
THE FEDERAL RESERVE - Americas OVERLORD
It does not take a majority to prevail ... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.
— Samuel Adams
No, but we were cheated.
Of course we never did anything about the machines. Without the machines being banned we'll never know what the real percentages are, and I believe they were quite simply hacked.
The Republicans use Diebold...the Democrats have been using paper ballot fraud, the dead voting, all sorts of nonsense.
SUPPORT OUR FOUNDERS' AMERICA
Support the Constitution of the United States
Don't forget illegal aliens
Don't forget illegal aliens voting too(and its safe to say, that illegal aliens are likely to vote for whoever is weakest on illegal immigration and whoever is pro-amnesty, making the illegal immigration problem worse)
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I Dont think so ..
I actualy think the count was about right.
The media succeeded in whipping the public up into an absolute frenzy about choosing between mud and mud.
Ron Paul didn't scatter my vote,
how about yours? Nader has consistently pulled more than the LP nominee, both in polling this time and in past elections.
Paul? Hahah
Look at it, the Two Party vote has never had more of a majority.
Idiots who voted for McCain, scared their vote would be wasted, which eventually, Yes it was. Your vote was wasted. Everyone who voted for McCain, Yes you wasted your vote.
not to mention those who voted for obama...
your vote won't be wasted, it will likely be used for the destruction of the United States. :-)
Yeah the people who voted
Yeah the people who voted for those tyrants deserve exactly what they got comin. But I dont and neither do the rest of you.
I wonder if those people who voted for obamas character would be willing to get punched in the face for everytime he screws up. Man thier would be a whole lot less people voting for these ass clowns if that were the case.
That's exactly right
Libera me, let the truth break, what my fears make--Leslie Phillips
Yes, I agree with this too!
Obama has promised the sky to these people - even if he "redistributes the wealth" which is rapidly disappearing, how is he gonna live up to what these folks are now expecting?? If he doesn't, how will they then react? He will try to blame someone else, but that won't be easy to do, as he will be mostly working with a Democrat congress I believe.
Face it
Only Ron Paul could unify the third party vote, not Barr, Baldwin or Nader or McKinney could unify them.
The LP and CP should unify by establishing an "Independence Party" on the basis of Minnesota and work with the Minnesota IP, but change their platform a bit.
1 % !?!
Can't believe 99% of the Americans who care to vote are that stupid.
Sad.
Don't blame the rest of the world.We did vote for Ron Paul!
Here the world may vote third party! (Ron Paul is leading alternate)
Well without advertising,
Well without advertising, there's no point. Third Parties have serious problems because of the laughable rules the GOP and Democrats have set up to make them jump through hoops getting ballot access.
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Support the Constitution of the United States
lol
Love it.
Well, don't forget Dondero
One of Barr's campaign managers who threw his vote to McCain recently and he is the one who chose Root. What a slap in Barr's face. So that probably reduces Paul's blame to .9%, Dondero maybe .1% at least.
yeah
DAMN ron paul he didnt do a single thing to help this movement out! (notes the title of the website) oooh thats right hes the whole reason i 'woke up' in the first place.
2nd
that one IR8
My girlfriend woke me up...
...but Ron Paul was waiting there with a nice big cup of coffee, a cheese danish, and a Constitution.
Ron Paul is my teacher.
How could Paul have cost Barr the election?
Please write some sense!. How could 1,2 or 3% have ensured the election for Barr? Barr's campaign made some severe mistakes, face it. Face it, Baldwin did also work on Paul's campaign and some of his supporters were going to vote for Baldwin in any case, same with Nader, whether Paul would have endorsed Barr or not. Do you understand voluntarism?
BVerney and Cory made big mistakes. Barr simply had to attend Paul's conference, and he would have secured a lot of more money and most of the Paul's support, without Paul's endorsement of anyone specific.
I planned to vote for Baldwin...
even before RP endorsed him. I identify with the Libertarian Party but after much debate with myself and going over Barr's record in my head and the fact that he was an establishment man I couldn't find the trust in him to vote for him.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Benjamin Franklin
"A free people ought to be armed." George Washington
"but let it not be said that we did nothing" - Ron Paul.
Chris
Boggles the mind...
...you REALLY couldn't tell that this was sarcasm?
rofl
wow. What is sarcasm!?
Sarcasm is when...
...thought you got me, didn't ya'?
hahahahaha! Ron Paul did
hahahahaha! Ron Paul did the best of the 3rd party candidates... none of them got over 2% anywhere....
LMFAO RON PAUL GOT WAY MORE
LMFAO RON PAUL GOT WAY MORE THAN BARR IN MONTANA >..! highest percentage
Unfortunately Winston
Unfortunately Winston Churchill was right. Americans will do everything wrong before they do it right. They rejected the Repubics but went to the Dumbs. Hopefully when the Dumbs continue the policy, more will see the truth. This is why the campaign for 2010 and 2012 must begin tonight!
As for the third party votes, they get zero national attention or mention. Most people don't know who any of them are. I voted for Barr but the guy was clearly not the quality of Dr. Paul. And sorry but I can't vote for a party that endorses a religion in its document of principle like Constitution does. That's unconstitutional.
Re-read your last sentence
You people who are rabidly anti-religion are not rational. If the founding documents on which you base your political philosophy all demand recognition of religion to ensure the moral well-being of the nation, but a liberal SCOTUS decision has said religion is bad, who do you listen to? Even atheists must be more reasonable than that. I really wouldn't care, except that this issue will continue to haunt us and we must come together to take back our country. How many times did RP say that, although he is Christian, his position is to support freedom in everything? Did you ever even listen to Baldwin? He took that same position. The MSM has so villainized religion that some actually believe it is an evil force. Those people who do, have left the company of the founders.
Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.
John Adams
Winston Churchill
"The biggest argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter"
That's the truth!
Yeah, sure, coming from an ex-CIA ...
Patriot Act voting, etc., etc. ... looking for a way to pin his failures on a far superior man than he!! BOO HOO!
"The high office of President has been used to foment a plot to destroy the Americans freedom, and before I leave office I must inform the citizen of his plight."
- John Fitzgerald Kennedy
Bob Barr is not right, he was very wrong.
Ron Paul's Convention Speech
I could be wrong, but I
I could be wrong, but I think that was sarcasm in the original post.
Yeah, you're probably wrong.
:P
Ron Paul's Convention Speech
No...
...he's definitely right.
Not even an Obama fan would think 1% of the vote would win it.
Geez
I guess you've never heard of sarcasm.
:P
Ron Paul's Convention Speech