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Must Listen: Ron Paul with Alex Jones 11/5/08

Wow- some very sobering comments from Ron Paul.

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Part 2 below:


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If the republic is EVER restored,RP and AJ are the 2 main reason

VOTE CHUCK BALDWIN

Ayn Rand said

Donahue, "Religion, or the God concept or faith or worship has people thinking of life as a vale of tears through which you will probably not get without falling. You are essentially an evil person who is bent towards evil."

"That's right. Most religions will preach just that."

"You don't believe that?"

"God, no."

Donahue said, "We are here and we should celebrate it, use it, enjoy it, be selfish and there is a virtue in being selfish. We got ourselves in trouble when we started using government to force us to be good, because we had this notion that we had a sort of bad nature."

"Right. And if we have a bad nature, we have no self esteem. If we have no self esteem, any demagogue can have us. He can order us about because we wouldn't consider ourselves valuable enough to be free. You would be anxious to follow anyone because you don't trust yourself."

True, but no one agrees 100%

Ron Paul is religious, but that didn't stop him from reading and supporting the majority of what Ayn Rand wrote. Objectivism is basically a subset of atheist libertarians. You can be a religious libertarian and appreciate what Rand was writing about. Atlas Shrugged says very little about religion but a lot about the abuses of the state.

Objectivists and Libertarians

Bcfast, Vigilance and brotherhood will get us through this.

Thanks for sharing your story. I love to hear peoples stories and how the paradigms shifts accur in each of us. It truly inspires me. Twelve or thirteen years ago I began researching the NWO and the law. I felt a great sense of fear, doom and depression. After a while, I came to terms with the fact this country was in great danger and the enemy was acting in stealth against us and from within our government. Then the day came when my fear became anger which I use to drive me to action in a positive way.

I too had just about lost all hope until I heard Ron Paul introduce himself as the "Champion of the Constitution". My job dropped. As I heard him take the Neo-Cons to task and gave them an education in political discourse I realized I was listening to a great American patriot.

The sleeping lion has woken and rest assured, we will take our country back!

I salute you sir.

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“Liberty without learning is always in peril... and learning without liberty is always in vain”

- John Fitzgerald Kennedy

An article to go w the video

I'm not sure if this is a trusted site but it goes through many of the details in the video http://www.moneymorning.c...

I sent it out on my church's blog with a link to the videos. Alex Jones can give a bad impression but he really says A LOT of truth.

I am on Alex Jones right now. I'm the last caller.. Check it out

http://www.infowars.com/s...

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“Liberty without learning is always in peril... and learning without liberty is always in vain”

- John Fitzgerald Kennedy

Emotions and Words Matter

To expand on what I said below and others have responded to I put together these thoughts.

It is a law of nature that our thoughts and feelings are encouraged and strengthened as we give them utterance. While words express thoughts, it is also true that thoughts follow words.

Emotions are molecules.

From the book “Molecules of Emotion” by Candace Pert, Ph.D. we receive the following insight “Neuropeptides and their receptors join the brain, glands, and immune system in a network of communication between brain and body, probably representing the biochemical substrate of emotion” (Pert). Years of neuropeptides (which are considered molecules of emotion) working on the receptors of the cells in the brain, endocrine glands, and immune system can change their receptiveness. This altered receptivity can damage the cell thus injuring health. Resolving and understanding deep-seated long-held emotions such as anger, grief, insecurity, etc. can release them and bring healing to the receptors and thus, the cell. In order to resolve these emotions there needs to be spiritual and psychological health. So you understand that these two are very powerful and not to be taken for granted.

Pert, C. (1999). Molecules of Emotion. Touchstone Books

Because emotions are molecules they generate some type of energy. The energy can be negative or positive depending upon the emotion. Someone said that you can walk into a room with a negative, unhappy person and know right away their state of emotion. You feel it and the oppressiveness of it. You don’t even have to look at the person to feel it. It is the same way with positive emotions. I love to be around positive, happy people. It generates the same emotions in me.
Bring that to the difference between Ron Paul and Alex Jones. Individually, listening to Alex Jones makes me feel helpless and afraid and downright depressed. This practically immobilizes me. People don’t want to be around me because this is all I can think about. RP, on the other hand, is realistic and speaks the truth. But, he also generates positive energy through his positive thoughts and words. He motivates me to action because he gives me hope. The Rally of the Republic gave us that type of emotion.
So, individually, my emotions and feelings may not change the state of the world; but collectively I think it can make or break us. That’s why I believe negative emotions can immobilize and positive can energize.

Healthnut4freedom

"Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct thy paths." Proverbs 3:5,6

Well said. I believe the same

As a therapist I also asked myself, "What makes one person survive a horrible situation and another not?" It is the person's attitude and feeling of hope- their positive thinking. I have witnessed this with my own eyes. I'm curious to see if we all collectively thought positive about one thing what would occur? Positive energy produce positive results, right? We must remember that there is always hope and try not to tune into the negative. Certain people are also more receptive to other people's energy and have to be careful not to take in the negative.

"For with God nothing shall be impossible"

Financial reports confirming the agenda of the Nov. 15 meeting!

This is not just speculation about the world converting to a global currency. Someone I know takes financial reports from corporations all day long and they are all saying that:

"The strengthening of the dollar and the weakening of all the foreign currencies is unprecedented" and they've never seen this happen before.

Something is definitely going on. Strings are being pulled.

I remember how I felt....

...about a year-and-a-half ago, when I first heard of RP, the NWO, the 9/11 truth movement, etc...I felt so small, defeated, beat-up, insignificant, like a deflated balloon...as though the most awful sci-fi movie of armageddon had come to life....then, with RP's messages of optimism and hope..and discovering Mr. Nystrom's site and all you good people here, I was re-invigorated...with a passion for politics that I'd never felt before!! At almost 50, I even went and registered to vote for the first time!!! Halla-friggin-luia!!!
Now, the "election" has come and gone...the worst-case scenerio has unfolded (I guess it could have been worse..we could have Hitlery as VP, but I digress...)...then I listened to RP's discussion with AJ. I have that exact same cringe in the pit of my stomach again. Something wicked this way comes.

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BC
As for me and my home, we will be buying ammo!

Nov. 15th meeting?

What's this monetary meeting that RP mentioned? Anyone read / seen / heard anything about this, in addition to Dr. Paul's brief mention of it?

Nov. 15th Financial Meeting

I just found out about this meeting scheduled for the 15th to create a New World Currency. If you go to GOOGLE and type in the date and financial meeting, you will come up with a lot of articles.

It's scary!

It's the "world economic summitt" that Bush planned a few weeks

ago. This is something I think we need to make a show at. This is a HUGE meeting, that's why it's just mentioned in passing.

Atlas Shrugged film?

Has anyone heard if the Atlas Shrugged movie is still going ahead? If so and if it does the book any justice at all it would be an eye opener for those who are still blind to what's really going on.

Angelina Jolie

I heard Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt were interested in the two lead starring roles, but that seems so strange considering she was a UN ambassador for a full year. The UN is completely opposite the philosophy of the book.

I also heard

that Angelina had become a CFR member recently, which I found to be odd. I don't know if that's true or not, but it would make taking this role even more strange.
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Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms - should be a convenience store, not a government agency!

yes

she is

Read Atlas Shrugged

Anyone here who hasn't done so yet should give Atlas Shrugged a try, despite socialists objecting that no one should read it. The events depicted in that book are now being played out in our time. Reading the book years ago I noticed things in real life that mirrored the book so precisely, but now the other unimaginable parts seem to be happening.

I HAVE A NEW IDEA...

Ron Paul people wouldn't normally do this BUT...

Here's a NEW ANGLE OF ATTACK we might consider;

There are numerous books and websites devoted to FREE GOVERNMENT MONEY, GIVEAWAYS and PROGRAMS (Such as author Matthew Lesko writes about).

Since American voters gave a ringing endorsement to Socialism on Nov 4th, and since they consider us a bunch of retards, I propose the following action for the RON PAUL REVOLUTION:

Everyone take as much free government money, freebies and low interest loans as Uncle Sam is offering. GET AS MUCH AS WE CAN in an attempt to BREAK THE IMMORAL SYSTEM which ALLOWS such programs to exist.

Then, CONTACT THE MEDIA; (Newspapers, TV, Radio talk shows, Internet, tell your friends etc) all about your free money.

This will ENRAGE THE PUBLIC about these excesses and it will cause more people to do the same until it becomes obvious how WRONG these TAXPAYER FUNDED programs are.

Or maybe we could tell the government that we want to return these freebies to the public treasury for TAX REFUNDS to we the people who were originally ripped off to pay for these things.

In any case, it WILL make a point about IMMORAL government giveaways.

Since I KNOW in our hearts we don't believe in this kind of thing, it falls under heading of "FIGHTING FIRE WITH FIRE."

PawnStorm

Hahaha!! Good idea! Fighting

Hahaha!! Good idea! Fighting fire with fire! I'm sure these morons used the free-markets and all that money they earned to fight us average Joes, it would be something if we turned the tables on them!!

While I sincerely hope that both Jones and Paul are wrong

about what's coming, I think there is a great danger in not carefully considering that they may be right. If I tune out this message, I do so at my own peril since I cannot make contingency plans for what I refuse to think about.

Stunned to hear 50% of Alex's listeners

supported/support Comrade Obama. That is amazing to me. WTF?

With regard to the "think positive", don't be "negative" discussion here, I understand the impact of thought--the Law of Attraction, if you will--that like attracts like, so be careful what you think, etc, etc. My problem with that "law of attraction stuff" is a moral one, i.e., this government created a lie in order to justify its invasion of another country, Afghanistan, and subsequently caused the deaths of our soldiers and the murder of innocent people. So what do I do? Think positively about that and/or pray, but do and say nothing because that would be negative? Where's the balance? I have yet to see or hear in this "law of attraction stuff" any sensible or substantive means of dealing with reality of the fact I cited above and its inherent moral challenge. Any ideas, healthnut4freedom? Seriously.

With regard to Alex, I say "Go, Alex, go!" while you still can! And Ron Paul's comment, "...most Americans are oblivious to what's going on..." sadly sums it up.

fifteen - not fifty

Listen again

Truth hurts -

Doesn't it?

People would rather hear happy, fun, cuddly, sugar-coated stories instead of the truth. "Noodle salad." Reality is no fun --- SUPERSIZE me! (gross)

(Pssst. People like Ron Paul & Alex Jones tell the disgusting, ugly, unhappy truth. Why do you think no one wants to listen? They want to close their eyes & believe in "Change." And do you really think DR. Ron Paul is so uninformed & unintelligent that he does not know whom to CHOOSE to talk to)???

No, detractors of 911

No, detractors of 911 truth--usually GOPers or Bob Barr 'Libertarians'--think they should have the right to tell you what topics to post about in this Forum, and to tell us who is or is not a good promoter of our ideas.

"AJ is bad, mmmmmmkay?"

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Perhaps the utter failure in this election

Might tip you off that your rhetoric is not working, and you might try something else. AJ says that we are on the march, they are on the run - but that's completely wrong. To use your rhetoric, the NWO is kicking major Ass, they now have a candidate that has convinced everyone that he is the new Lincoln, (and he probably is) - but remember, Lincoln has a monument, and a cult.

You should study how to get people out of a cult if you want to convince them about the NWO.

PS I voted for Nader

Alex Jones?

Come on guys. People like Alex Jones is why Paul's message is being laughed at. He needs to distance himself from conspiracy theorists. No one can take him serious if he runs with this crew.

Spoken like someone

who has been on this forum for a total of 5 hours and 16 minutes! Go climb back under your rock patrick, people are waking up and you can't stop it.

Those who laugh

the hardest are one of two kinds...those who don't want YOU to listen and so lead you away from the truth or those who can't listen because it would force them to rethink their own paradigms and include truths that seem unpalatable.
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*What you don't know CAN hurt you.*

No.

He's a valuable source of publicity. He's peripheral to the movement. He doesn't tell us what to believe and we don't have to hitch ourselves to his star.

It is true that he is an alarmist and some of what he says needs to be taken with a grain of salt..but that's true of any talk radio personality. At least he discusses things the MSM won't touch with a ten-foot pole.

I like him.

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I agree with you Kevin, I like him too.

I think this was an awesome interview, and I completely disagree with the below post-er, Alex is not stupid, he is extremely smart. And besides, Dr. Paul said that what he is doing - getting information out to people, is the MOST important thing to do right now.

Yes and No

This clip could be a PR nightmare for Ron Paul. First, look at the crazy picture of RP, Eyes pointing upwards like that. And AJ has been severely discredited for his alarmist nature, and general stupidity, so he may be good for spreading the word to the believers, but it hurts when if you want to spread the message beyond the 3% or so that are already believers.

So if you want to sit around and complain, and then say see I told you, AJ is your man. If you want to change the world, not so much.

On the other hand, I agree with most of what is being said. The problem is, the real situation is much more complex than either RP or AJ are saying. When it is simplified, so they can talk about the big picture, it sounds unbelievable and paranoid - Who is The new world order ? its not really a single group somewhere in a star chamber, its as much an idea as the liberty ,movement is an idea. RP names it, so he can explain what is happening, but someone who is not naturally suspicious of power thinks he means this set of powerful people - like in the "protocoals of the elders of zion", and then thinks RP is crazy.

The best solution would be to rename the "new world order" to something that people already dislike. Change the syntax, without changing the program.

I believe it is......

the fairness act, and it targets political agenda's attacking each other, I don't think it attacks propaganda talk or whatever. They don't want Liberal radio or Conservative Radio, they want equal boring talk.
If Coast to Coast AM gets through, I think we might be alright.
Even though, an act like might be viewed unconstitutional and can be taken to court!

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"The real terrorist's are in this country and they are not planning to blow us up, but rather, take our money, our freedom, and our country."

Just got this by email

Is this true? Anyone know about this?
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"The 2008 election has been decided and one thing is clear: the enemies of talk radio are firmly in control of the White House and Congress. Sen. Chuck Schumer and his fellow Democrats are promising an all-out attack on talk radio.

With a new "Fairness Doctrine" backed by an Obama White House, political talk, as we know it, will end.

If these forces of darkness win, Rush, Imus, Hannity, Savage, Beck, and dozens of other major hosts will be muzzled by using federal regulations to control political talk. "

Alex Jones is depressing

AJ is a total downer. Doesn't he know that you can create your reality by the words you say and the energy you exude? Ron Paul was very serious and sober but he also sees the silver lining. He explains it like it is a very real threat but can be conquered. AJ acts like there is no hope we might as well go home and climb in our bunkers. Do you know how many cult leaders seduce their people with that kind of message? Don't go there.

Think positively and pray. For those who don't pray - think positively. Remember quantum physics and the reality we create. As a Christian I believe thinking positively brings the forces of Heaven down and thinking negatively lets the demons loose. Have your pick who you want. I choose God.

Healthnut4freedom

"Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct thy paths." Proverbs 3:5,6

AJ definitely is 'Debbie Downer'...but..

But he's useful as a whistleblower of the New World Order, which is to say he's an actual journalist...a rarity in our day and age. I'm glad he's around, he's a valuable asset, and I'm glad he's peripheral to the movement.

Everyone has bad days, and all people in talk radio are bombastic. At least Alex is relevant.

And I was just as depressed as he was after the election. I don't blame him.

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I'd rather listen to this ...

http://www.youtube.com/wa...

"We war not against flesh and blood. But, against principalities and powers and the rulers of the darkness of this world!" PAUL

If you don't believe in GOD, now would be a good time to start. I agree about Alex Jones. He's good for some of his info but that is where it ends.

If you are not part of the solution, you're part of the problem. Isn't that the saying?

May ALLAH (GOD) bless ALL people deserving no matter the religion or non religion. When you fear nothing but GOD you have no fear. (<---if you have obeyed his teachings that is)

Sorry but you can think

Sorry but you can think positive all you want however the enemies of freedom don't give a damn about what you think and they are moving ahead boldly with their agenda,

Christians, new agers, and others misunderstand the scriptures and ancient wisdom about thought creating reality. All things begin with thought yes but nothing happens till you take action on that thought.

I can create a house from thought by going to work and building it after conceiving it in my mind. Those that sit around waiting for their thoughts to magically take form are most often disappointed.

But if you really believe that then buy a lottery ticket and repeat the mantra "I will win the lotto" until the drawing. Let us know how that works out if you try it ;-)
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Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. H. L. Mencken

Get Prepared!

Agreed as well ...

This is true as well. You have to act as well ... but you have to manifest good for yourself and others and when you act the results will be greater. Being around someone in a bad mood can easily put you in a bad mood even though they didn't physically do anything to you. I am sure everyone can attest to this.

Trust me if you read the scriptures ... they tell you that you can wait, but remember your enemies wait as well. So if anyone Christians, Muslims, New Age, whoever believe they shouldn't act as well, then they are misunderstanding the point.

Mencken has some great quotes. Definitely a man ahead of his time. Probably be listening to him on the radio if he were alive today.
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"We war not against flesh and blood. But, against principalities and powers and the rulers of the darkness of this world!" PAUL (<--not Ron ... or is it???)

Alex Jones is uplifting

The man has poured his soul into this battle. Give him a break. Thank God for someone who delivers his thoughts with the God-given emotion he feels. I don't need a smiley face to convince me everything is going to turn out ok. Tell me how it really is and how it makes you feel. Climb in our bunkers? Obviously you never listen to the guy. The dude has spent nearly every day for 15 years telling you to get out and do something. The man himself gets right in the face of these tyrants and goes to jail for it.

Thinking negatively (whatever that means) doesn't let demons loose. Not thinking, and doing nothing lets evil take its course.

I'm so tired of ppl crapping on the guy that whom without - Ron Paul would still only be an obscure state representative.

I agree AJ is a negative Nellie

Dharmic religions refer to this thinking and acting positively as good karma. While I would have chosen different words, I couldn't agree more with your message, HealthNut4freedom. AJ is a downer.

Support our republic and the liberty it provides - Todd

AJ is a realist, and right

AJ is a realist, and right now the reality IS negative.

Right on..

couldn't have said it better!!

I was going to write those same words

"There can be only one permanent revolution - a moral one: The regeneration of the inner man."
—Tolstoy

Right on.

I couldn't agree more.

Thanks for the post

I've gotten the info out to as many outlets as I could in a short time.Spread the information,eyes wide open the Revolution's here.

AK's on sale here through Sunday

Perfect timing

At the armory?

At the armory?

"We Will Watch Obama Like a Hawk"

Along similar lines to what Dr. Paul was say. Don't miss this.
Bob Chapman
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