
Bob Barr Campaign Officials: Ron Paul is to Blame!!!!
Submitted by MickeyMouse on Thu, 11/06/2008 - 11:29
Shane Cory & other staffers claim:
"Ron Paul is to Blame for not receiving $30 Million"
Also alleges: "Paul set the liberty movement back a decade by encouraging people to stay in the GOP," Cory says
Also this comment deserves to be in the OP:
jonthebeloved writes:
A quick thinking friend of mine just said "I guess Barr's camp skipped over the 'personal responsibilty' part of the Libertarian Party platform." Ha!
http://reason.com/news/show/129858.html
Quote from the article(btw Reason's David Wiegel also craps on the Good Doctor in the comment section):
As the campaign wound to a close, it was clear that Barr wouldn't get close to the $30 million fundraising goal campaign manager Russ Verney set in May, a disappointment that staffers blame in part on former Republican presidential candidate Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas). "Paul set the liberty movement back a decade by encouraging people to stay in the GOP," Cory says. "Not that the Republicans planned it, but if they did they couldn't have planned it any better."
Also Quote from the comments by Reason's David Weigel who is sore & sad after dissing Ron Paul everyday on his "Hit & Run" column:
"Dave Weigel | November 4, 2008, 3:30pm | #
didn't he call a press conference to tell people to vote third-party?
He did, then he told people to vote for Baldwin, then he directed most of the Campaign for Liberty's efforts at electing Republicans."
Probably Ron Paul is to blame that NeoCon Bob Barr & NeoCon Root recieved approximately 0.4%
Not even beating Ron Paul's 0.47% of 1988
So NeoCons Barr & Root Snub Ron Paul, spit in his face, and then their campaign & Reason Magazine craps all over Ron Paul & blames him for their miserable failure.
Am I missing something here?
What a joke
Im Still waiting for the LP apology to Ron Paul which they still haven't given.
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Who in hell is Barr?
I mean, seriously, Barr is a passing episode; Paul is a milestone in American politics.
Makes me think Ron Paul is on the right track
If they are pissed at him for staying in the Republican Party, maybe they are sh**ing themselves knowing that a Republican takeover is in the works. They would rather have us spinning our wheels and getting nowhere in third party land, but in the Republican Party we have an actual chance to make a definitive difference in 2010 and 2012. That probably scares the crap out of the elites, hence the anger directed at Ron Paul.
Register as Republican and Vote for Ron Paul
Bob
Bob Barr trying to act like the principled one is comical. what a fraud.
bump
Barr is in debt and needs your donations
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How much in debt? Maybe we should hold a Credit Card Bomb!
We can send Bob all of our pre-approved credit card ads we get in the mail, and he can apply for a few to pay off his campaign vendors.
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Bob Barr is a douchebag
'Live for yourself, there's no one else more worth living for,
Begging hands and bleeding hearts
Will only cry out for more...'
'Live for yourself, there's no one else more worth living for,
Begging hands and bleeding hearts
Will only cry out for more...'
No one is listening
to him anyway. Any one who blames Paul for anything is obviously licking their wounds and need to crawl off, go to sleep and shut up before they discredit themselves even more.
Barr was just a backstop
To prevent Paul from running on the Libertarian ticket, nothing more.
Even though he said countless times that he would not go third party, and his word is as good as gold.
They still don't "get" Dr. Paul, do they?
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I never trusted Bob Barr
He was the GOP plant to derail the efforts of Ron Paul.
I couldn't stand this worm from day one
Once you have voted for the patriot act and then later try to back pedal your a worm. A term my mother bless her soul used to describe the lowest of the low.
If you F up admit it and go on, do not turn things around to justify your bad actions.
Bob Barr is a worm, he even looks like some library serial killer. Funny thing is this guy had a snowballs chance in hell of even getting 1%. Weasels only attract weasels and there aren't many weasels voting 3rd party. Mainly because the democrats and republicans have taken most all of the weasels.
They defiantly have the market cornered on Sheeple.Just my 2 cents which today is actualy worth 2.6 cents :) copper content makes a penny worth 1.3 cents. Save your pennies! the melt value alone will bring a handsome return. lol go figure...
you mean pre 1982 pennies
(and some of the 82s as well)
'Live for yourself, there's no one else more worth living for,
Begging hands and bleeding hearts
Will only cry out for more...'
'Live for yourself, there's no one else more worth living for,
Begging hands and bleeding hearts
Will only cry out for more...'
lol loved your mom's term. my condolences
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Bob Barr was put forth to compromise the liberty movement
he and his backers do nothing but bash Ron Paul,... when RP was/is/and always will be the man who sparked the liberty movement. Barr yuo are a nothing, you will be nothing, no one likes you, you are trash, go stick your head up your own ass you shill.
VOTE CHUCK BALDWIN
A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.
I regret rooting for Barr at the Beginning. Barr was a mistake
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barr is irrelevant..I don´t care at all. lol
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Front Fell Off
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Bob Barr
In my opinion, in hindsight, maybe Bob Barr was not the best choice for the Libertarian party.
When he first said he may run, I was in favor of it. I thought he would do rather well.
In his whole campaign, he said all the right things for me, very well I might add.
HOWEVER, his treatment of the Ron Paul campaign is what cost him so much in campaign contributions. (that, and a lot of us were tapped out)
I have never given more then $100 to any Libertarian Candidate, but I gave Ron Paul $600 and would have done more if I didn't go broke.
I still voted for Bob Barr, even though I was not happy with him. Right now I am wishing I voted for Chuck Baldwin.
Ron Paul is right, we must stay involved in the Republican Party if we want to make any differences.
Don't worry about Chuck.
He still has future presidential runs in him.
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My opinion of Barr and Root
Bob Barr and Wayne Allen Root: Of Khazars, Masons and Sociopaths
www.dailypaul.com/node/61639
From the beginning I knew
Bob Barr was a piece of crap spouting words and he's proved that over and over.
Deliberate Infiltrator and plant to deflect votes and support for Ron Paul.
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ya know, this is funnier than i originally thought
dr. paul was marginalized thru out the primary as a joke, kook, lunatic - you name it - who didn't have enough support to make a difference, so he should have given up long, long ago.
yet, suddenly he's become such a powerful force w/in the republican, libertarian, and other independent parties that he alone is to blame for driving support away from other candidates.
make up your mind, idiots.
Thank you ! You read my mind ;)
Libera me, let the truth break, what my fears make--Leslie Phillips
Libera-me,...Let the truth break what my fears make.
Libera-me,.. from this dark dream to the lifestream!
Leslie (AKA Sam) Phillips
Don't blame others for the
Don't blame others for the shortcomings of your campaign!
For The Constitution!
On Barr
Its amazing that without even trying, Rep Paul was able to obtain $35 Million for his campaign, yet Barr can't get more than $1 Million.
Did Barr expect those of us who supported Ron Paul to change sides in mid stream? Or that we would put the same trust in him that we put into Ron Paul.
Ron Paul hasn't lied to us, where as Bob Barr did as a Congressman.
Ron Paul has been happily married for 50+ years, Bob has been divorced twice and did the EXACT same thing I found abhorrent about John McCain, got married less than a month after his divorce was finalized.
On top of it all, he voted for the Patriot Act and while he agrees that it was wrong for him to do so, do we trust someone that only gives a cursory look at the laws for which they are voting?
Barr's problems with running for President were Barr's fault. Blaming it on Ron Paul just indicates the content of Mr. Barr's character.
HAHAHA what a joke.
HAHAHA what a joke. HAHAHAHA.......
Puppets come and puppets go but the world's stage is getting cluttered.
Boy those shills they sent
Boy those shills they sent over here sure won over a lot of hearts and minds! How could we compete with the brilliance of BillyDee? What an ubermensch!
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Ron Paul is Responsible for Barr's poor showing.
Bob Barr is to blame.
Free and Brave
or Cradle to Grave
You can't have both
Free and Brave
or Cradle to Grave
You can't have both
How about the campaign staff of Barr
taking responsibility. Since it felt very much like Barr wanted to run off with Ron Paul's glory they might have not put the effort in needed to gain the support they so badly needed. Sorry Bobby Barr, you just ain't good enough, no charisma and shilling.
People with even a little bit of spine are not casting blame but start looking at where they themselves went wrong.
THE REAL SHAME IS THAT whatever the causes...
...the 3rd parties are split and the votes are all dispersed. Not enough concentrated voting power to make the least bit of difference.
Just what the 2 corrupt major parties ordered. They could not have scripted a better outcome. Divide, conquer and scatter the members to the winds.
Just look at the final numbers to see how bad it was.
I went from a registered Republican to Libertarian but voted for Baldwin in the end. Even though the Libertarian platform is slightly better and in some ways more constitutional than the Constitution party.
Now I'm out in the wilderness wandering around like an idiot.
Pawnstorm
Third Parties can be rebuilt.
But the Libertarian Party is pretty much a dead letter.
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By the way...
I wrote in Chuck Baldwin this year for president. Barr is a shill of a Libertarian, and I never felt that he represented me, nor the Libertarian Party. I did like his running mate Wayne Root though, especially on the issue of gambling.
Actually Root was even worse, if possible
Obnoxious, loud, abrasive, clueless pro-War used car salesman claiming to be "Ron Paul on Steroids". Ugggggh.
He was actually asking people to advise him what Libertarians and Ron Paul supporters would like to hear, and he'd be happy to say it.
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I agree...
...I was simply stating (obviously not very well) that I loved his views on gambling. I voted for Ron Paul in the primaries and Chuck Baldwin in the general election (only because Dr. Paul was not on the ballot in Texas). I never backed Barr/Root and never would. I am philosophically a libertarian though, and will continue to try to get more liberty loving people into my state and local governments. The LP probably thought that just because Barr had a name, albeit not a very good one among the freedom movement, he would be able to pick up a lot of votes from Clinton haters, dissafected Republicans, etc. I am extremely tempted to say the hell with political parties, and just concentrate completely on the Campaign For Liberty.
As a registered Libertarian
I am ashamed at the national party, though I believe much more in my state of Texas Libertarian Party. Ron Paul is the greatest advancer of freedom and liberty in my short lifetime, and I'll be dipped if I let Shane Cory or any Libertarian staff off the hook for this one. A call to all Libertarians: get in touch with these people and educate them on self-responsibility. We don't want to become like the neocon fascist Republicans and Democrats and play the blame game. This movement is not about parties.....it is about ideas. It is about the sovereign American people versus corrupt, globalist big government.
End of the LP
I believe Bob Barr's campaign was a cancer from which the Libertarian Party will never recover.
I have mixed feeling about the end of the LP. I campaigned for Harry Browne on my college campus in 2000, and was excited to be a part of the party. After feeling my first crushing electoral defeat with the party that year, I gave up, and lost my desire to be involved. I never stopped believing in the LPs principals. I just felt the LP was a waste of my time.
On one had, the LP was what first introduced me to the ideas of liberty a decade ago. On the other had, I can't begin to imagine the number of people who's spirit was crushed beyond repair after experiencing their first election as an LP supporter.
It wasn't until a year or two ago that someone pointed out to me that the LP was never meant to win elections, but as a vehicle to educate people. That regained some of my respect and helped put the three decades of electoral thrashings in better perspective. But still, I can't shake the feeling that the LP's inability to succeed at the polls has probably done more harm to the progress of liberty than it has helped, getting in the way of a more politically competent group. Only weirdos and misfits (like me) sit down and read through the planks of third party platforms; "normal' americans apparently get their ideas from people who've actually been elected to something.
While I don't blame the Libertarian Party..
...for anything but well-meaning incompetence, I agree with you--the party is doomed.
The man who is the presidential standard bearer defines the party, because he gets all the publicity exposure. The Libertarian National Committee should have moved IMMEDIATELY to save the party's image and recall Barr/Root BEFORE they appeared on any ballots. It was a terrible mistake that split an already small party and divided it.
I see the party like a routed army, battered and broken and dissolving into the hinterlands. I see no future for the Libertarian Party. They should have broken 1% this year, and if they had run Mary Ruwart, they would have done so.
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couldn't have anything
to do with bob barr talking about bob barr in the third person during the bob barr campaign could it?
"The two weakest arguments for any issue on the House floor are moral and constitutional"
Ron Paul
But!
But Bob Barr's favorite thing to talk about was how Bob Barr would push forth the name of Bob Barr within the little circle of hardcore LP members who already knew that Bob Barr is Bob Barr.
Ron Paul on the other hand, always seemed spectacularly embarrassed at the attention and fame heaped upon him, and always tried to focus our attention--and the nation's--on the message, not the man.
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Remember Norm McDonald's hella funny Bob Dole impersonations
on SNL back in the day? I think Norm could have done a great Bob Barr without changing his schtick much.
Bob Dole was a taller Bob Barr with more charisma.
Not to imply that Bob Dole really has any charisma.
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Sorry to hear Barr's people reacting this way. They were
invited to Dr. Paul's press conference but chose not to come. Dr. Paul can hardly be held responsible for Mr. Barr's voting record in congress. I hope that Mr. Barr issues a public statement disassociating himself from such rubbish as is coming from his staff.
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"An economy built on fiat money is a society on its way to ashes."
Please do not hold your breath
for any such statement from Barr.
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The Libertarian Party as an organization has issues...
I knew things were going downhill when they cancelled project archimedes which I though was a good idea and had it continued today might have put an L on the ticket this year.
Maybe new leadership will take hold and really get it done right. The number of new libertarians in the U.S. warrant and deserve it. Without it....we get what we got.
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i read
it was a failure financially (it was supposed to be self-sustaining) and also failed to achieve the 50000 new members mark...
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And this is why third
And this is why third parties can't get much traction. You all have the potential to be the next leaders of our communities and our country. The republicrats have been bombarding us with negativity for quite a spell and I know it's contagious. Try to resist the temptation. It's over. Let it go. Move forward, educate yourself and others, run for office in your communities, be positive, be true to the goal, and we'll all get there. But not if we keep turning on each other. Peace.
barr crawl back into your hole
asshole you never had 100th of the support the good Dr has get lost and get off our site.
ditto
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Again Barr shows that
he was a plant to dismantle the Ron Paul Revolution !
I bet he has Thanksgiving dinner with former Speaker
of the House Tom Foley ( Mr. Bilderberger ) !
Campaign staffers do what they are told by there
candidate !
" I will take REAL money and YOU
can have the change "
Bob Barr suogates are wrong
I was in the constitution party and seen many independent and third party runs. We cannot get elected we have to stand up like strong men and woman and fight to reclaim or change the republican party.
Yeah sure,
Bob Barr is the centre of the Revolution and Ron Paul barred him from his little glory. It's called the Bobbarr Syndrome.
When you can't compete with the real deal...
BLAME IT!!! Barr, ugghh. What a slimy piece of neocon crap. I saw him coming a mile away. Every time I would hear him speak, I felt like I needed to take a shower. Every time I hear Dr. Paul speak, I feel like I need to drape myself in the American Flag, and the Constitution. If Barr was a real man, he would be praising the good Dr's accomplishments for the freedom movement, not trashing him.