Why Are We Being Manipulated Again?
Why have "They" created this financial crisis?
'They" already have the central banking system, that was born out of a financial crisis. What are "They" up to this time?
The following sounds much like what is happening today. But it happened over a hundred years ago.
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On January 6, 1907, the New York Times published an article by Warburg, called "Defects and Needs of Our Banking System," after which he became the leading exponent of monetary reform. That same year, Jacob Schiff told the New York Chamber of Commerce, that "unless we have a Central Bank with adequate control of credit resources, this country is going to undergo the most severe and far reaching money panic in history." When Morgan initiated the economic panic in 1907, by circulating rumors that the Knickerbocker Bank and Trust Co. of America was going broke, there was a run on the banks, creating a financial crisis, which began to solidify support for a central banking system. During this panic, Warburg wrote an essay called "A Plan for a Modified Central Bank" which called for a Central Bank, in which 50% would be owned by the government, and 50% by the nation's banks. In a speech at Columbia University, he quoted Abraham Lincoln, who said in an 1860 Presidential campaign speech: "I believe in a United States Bank."
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I realize that this will
I realize that this will probably not be popular, but as I've said before, while this may have begun as a "controlled disintegration", as all other boom and bust cycles of the Federal Reserve, I am of the firm belief that it got out of hand and has, consequentially morphed into an "uncontrolled disintegration". There are several reasons I believe this, many come from the "chatter" in the CFR, the Trilateral Commission; they are exhibiting real fear. Many of those organizations recent "white papers" and transcripts of member seminars show that they are grasping at any straw they can to find a solution. I think they screwed up and completely lost all control over what they though they had control over.
We must understand that the system that "The Money Masters" created is, from every account that I have read, the very system they intended to implement as far back as the late 1800s. It was planned for decades and it preformed exactly as it was designed. It has created a massive global productive serfdom and that production has been funneled into their hands for decades, both in terms of wealth and power.
We must also realize that since 1913, almost all wealth has been effectively transferred into the hands of the Elite through the fiat monetary system. After all, the dollar you have in your pocket is now little more than a ruse of wealth, an illusion of money that has been depreciated over 96% from the real money prior to 1913. My point is this: They need a continuation of the productive serfdom in order to maintain their power. They have never wanted "slaves" because "slaves" are a heavy burden both economically and socially. The Elite not only desire a system of productive serfdom, but they must have it in order to continue their system. If there is no economy, even one that is relatively planned and controlled, then they will lose everything they have worked for the last 150 years to accomplish.
Once again, I don't see such a plan or program of totally destroying the economic viability of the global markets within any of their writings; their plan all along has been to create a "productive proletariat", even in the writings of Marx you will find the sentiment. However, like Marx and his Communist Manifesto, these Elite Administrators depended on flawed systems, flawed fiat money and a flawed concept of human action.
Again, I see a fiat monetary system reaching the mathematical termination point in its life span. The Debt Standard, upon which the fiat monetary system depends is not sustainable and it will consume the economy in spite and despite all their efforts to stop it. There is nothing they can build upon once that system deteriorates because the massive debt will consume everything they themselves depend upon for their power.
I have been a long-time student of history in the areas of politics, monetary systems and economics; I simply don't see anything that the Elite could do to either combat the degradation and disintegration of their system or anything that they could replace this system with unless they wanted to go back to the Gold Monetary System and they absolutely hate Gold because it deprives them of power, limits their control and intervention.
Interestingly enough, almost a year ago there was a member of the CFR that concluded that it may well be necessary to go back to a Gold monetary system because they must know that the fiat monetary system is dying. They seem to have few choices.
Member of the Council on Foreign Relations, Benn Steil, has proposed the following — a privately created currency that would confer an inflation-proof claim on gold or a basket of commodities. Steil calls his idea “digital gold”, but basically it would be a commodity backed monetary system.
Additionally, Steill stated: "Digitized commodity money may then be in store for us. Gold banks already exist that allow clients to make and receive digital gold payments—a form of electronic money, backed by gold in storage—around the globe. The business has grown significantly in recent years, in tandem with the dollar’s decline."
So, what does this all mean? One thing is certain, they are very fearful of what is happening around the world at the moment and the credit/economy turmoil; fearful enough to consider some type of gold backed currency.
I just have to look at a logical progression of the plans of the Elite, the Fabian Socialists and it simply makes no sense for them to destroy everything their entire history has worked toward for the last 150 years. Besides there is nothing in the writings of those who have been involved with the NWO since the later part of the 1800s that points to anything other than the progressive feudal system they sought to implement.
Additionally, we must look at certain limitations that no political system or ideology can avoid and that is economic and monetary laws that govern and have governed societies since Neolithic times. Even under the most controlled and centrally planned economic systems, such as the former Soviet Union or Maoist Red China, none of them could escape the forces of human action or the monetary and economic principles that naturally arise within a society. They can suppress and oppress society for a while, at times for years, but sooner or later the masses grow weary of tyranny and no matter how powerful the Elite appear to be, they cannot continue to rule when the masses turn against them or when their plans for economic and social domination are thwarted by the very principles that government economics and human actions.
Even some of the most cruel tyrants, such as in the S’ung Dynasty, who tried over several centuries to enforce a fiat monetary system, on pain of death, finally gave up and like all societies who have tried to manipulate monetary and economic laws, they were all forced to return to sound money. Sound money is a difficult system for any government to control, it requires them to relinquish a great deal of power over the people because gold is not only a double asset within a monetary system, but it also becomes private property and tyrants hate the principle of private property and the Rights that those principles instill in the People.
I am not shaken by the plethora of theories that are floating around on the web, I have a hope that is based on my faith in the spirit of Liberty that rests in the hearts of people and in the knowledge of historical events that can teach us a great deal about both the present and the future.
Now, concerning Obama I feel that as Bush and the Neo-Cons fooled a great many people in this country for a time, the same will happen with Obama. Just as much as people finally began to wake up from the illusions that the Bush Administration presented as real, so too will people awaken from the Obama illusions. The pendulum has now swung from the far right to the far left, but I think the next stage will be when people become so disillusioned with both the Republicans and the Democrats that they seek Liberty and Freedom.
Obama was just a natural reaction to the Bush-Ka-Bobs, it won’t be long before the people become extremely disappointed with Obama and his particular brand of hope. There will come a time, as we are already seeing, when the People will once again cry for Constitutional Liberty.
The thing is that if you look at the debt to economic growth ratios from the 60s to present you will notice a very distinctive trend. The more debt accrued, the less economic growth occurs, my estimates are that between 2010 and 2015 the debt will complete siphon off all economic viability. As I have said for years, the fiat monetary system, dependent totally upon debt creation will reach its mathematical termination point, the end of its life span. It now takes almost 10 times as much debt creation to create one dollar of economic growth, so, if the models are correct, as I believe they are, then with all the bailouts, the credit infusions, the expenditures the termination point may be much sooner than I anticipate. The thing that really gets people is when I say that there is absolutely little that can be done at this point to reverse the collapse of the system. People simply don't want to hear such things and I can't blame them, but we must be ready to face a period in history that has not been experienced by anyone living today.
The point is that nothing can stop this slide, especially nothing that Obama or the FED or the other Central Banks of the world are presently doing. In fact, the only thing that would come close to reversing this slide is something that the official channels will not consider, at the moment, and that is a return to a gold monetary system with an extreme cut in all government operations, including military operations.
I realize that there are those who feel that this is all planned however, from my studies I see something slightly different. I see a history of very precise manipulation by the powers behind the scene, but this is something different and no matter what they do they will not be able to prevent a devastation to the society that they have sought so desperately to control. Their kingdom is coming down and we must prepare for what is ahead.
In the next year we will witness some drastic measures being taken by the governments of the world, at the moment they are relatively composed but soon that composure will escape them, they will be forced to tell the People the truth and that will be their undoing.
No matter who "They" are, they cannot defy economic and monetary laws for ever, they cannot control or manipulate human action forever. They kingdoms are coming down...I beleive that will all my heart. That doesn't mean that it will not be some tough goings ahead of us, they will do all they can to hold on to their power and wealth, but to no avail.
Now, have you noticed anything strange over the last two months? I have….Dr. Ron Paul is everywhere! He has actually been on TV more in the last couple of months than we saw during his entire campaign…he has answers and people are beginning to realize that fact. I think we may well be surprised by what happens during this next year, and I think Dr. Paul will be in a position that he would have never been allowed if he actually became President. I think we will see the Revolutionary Ranks grow as never before.
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I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue. Barry Goldwater
Why?
Because that is what they do. There is no such thing as satisfying avarice and lust for power. The pathology is uncontrolled in those possessed of it.
Is this the reason for amnesty? History does repeat itself...
doesn't it. This time it's Hispanics.
So, when will immigration reform be brought up again?
"They" may lose a battle, but "They" never give up until they win the war. Even if it takes decades.
This entire article is a mirror image of what's happening today, not a hundred years ago.
Guess when you have a plan that works, just keep using it.
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The main problem for the Democrats, was the Republican voting edge, and the Democrat's lack of money. After the Illuminati made the decision to support Wilson, money was no problem. Records showed that the biggest contributors to Wilson's campaign were Jacob Schiff, Bernard Baruch, Henry Morgenthau, Sr., Thomas Fortune Ryan (mining magnate), Samuel Untermyer, Cleveland H. Dodge (of the National City Bank), Col. George B. M. Harvey (an associate of J. P. Morgan, and editor of the Morgan-controlled Harper's Weekly, and President of the Harper and Brothers publishing firm), William Laffan (editor of the New York Sun), Adolph Ochs (publisher of the New York Times), and the financiers that owned the New York Times, Charles R. Flint, Gen. Sam Thomas, J. P. Morgan, and August Belmont. All of these men were Illuminati members.
The problem of the voter registration edge was a bit more difficult, but that was a project that the Illuminati had already been working on. The Russian pogroms of 1881 and 1882, in which thousands of Russians were killed; and religious persecution and anti-Semitism in Poland, Romania, and Bulgaria in the early 1890's, began three decades of immigration into the United States by thousands of Jews.
By the turn of the century, a half-million Jews had arrived to the port cities of New York, Baltimore, and Boston. It was the Democrats who initiated a program to get them registered to vote. Humanitarian committees were set up by Schiff and the Rothschilds, such as the Hebrew Immigration Aid Society, and the B'nai B'rith, so when the Jews arrived, they were made naturalized citizens, registered Democrat, then shuffled off to other large cities, such as Chicago, Philadelphia, Detroit and Los Angeles, where they were given financial help to find a place to live, food, and clothing. This is how the Jews became a solid Democratic voting bloc, and it was these votes that would be needed to elect Wilson to the Presidency.
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Change will come
Scary these things are, but I will fight. No camps for me. No chip for me. I'll will fight until they kill me. I won't let them have thier way with me. I would rather die then to live knowing that I didn't even try. Good Luck.
Why??
simple answer: they can manipulate us because we ALLOW them to do so!!!
BINGO
Hannah2 hit the head on the nail. IT IS BECAUSE WE ALLOW IT.
Give Me Freedom
If Tyranny And Oppression Come To This Land, It Will Be In The
Guise Of Fighting A Foreign Enemy. James Madison
Sometime before the January 21 an annoucement will be made
Sometime before the January 21 an annoucement will be made Bush and Obama will approve terms to clear both parties.
"Lead, follow, or get out of the way."
-- Thomas Paine
Because we let them , listen to the voices in the background and
HYDROMAN
you will do their bidding.
History Gives Context To The Manipulations Of Today
Robber Baron Maneuvers
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What Ron Paul and Alex Jones
What Ron Paul and Alex Jones said was "Shortly after Jan 20th, they will announce that the dollar has failed. It has been devalued and demonetized to be replaced with the "safe" world currency complete with financial and natural resource regulation system".
Nobody said anything about chips. They did say that we will lose our sovereignty and our property rights if these bankers get their way.
Where do you draw the line????
After the nov 15th
financial meeting, maybe they'll announce Islamic financing. There is an article at wnd disclosing that it is being "taught" now.
Read else where that Chase, JP as well as others have already bought into this new form of financial system........................................
It's a good system
and I was sure it was the main reason we were about to attack Iran. They don't believe in usury but there is a small interest rate that goes back into the country which produces value instead of debt.
...about this "chipping" business
Chips exist. People have been/ will be chipped- that I can agree with. I dont have any reason to believe it will ever be mandatory that we all be chipped. We just arent that interesting to them. They want our money- thats all. They want us docile and working. If you have your heart set on not taking a chip- then you wont bitch so much when they issue you a real ID- you'll be waiting to say no to the chip. A cashless society could be implemented rather quickly- most sheep dont carry much cash now. Most people have like $6 on them- we use debit for gas, groceries, online bill paying etc etc etc. If anyone gets a chip- itll probably be the handful they catch for refusing the Real ID- those will be the people theyd want to know the whereabouts of I would think. If thats what they intended to do- it could be buttoned down in months- likely they wont be so brazen and allow it to take place within this generation (no rush though- havent they kinda got us where they want us now?). If youre not paranoid- then the last 20 years has just been the logical course of events in a tumultuous society. Just because youre paranoid though, dosnt mean they ARENT out to get you.
"They" want us dead.
"They" want us dead.
No, first "they" want us enslaved...
...and when we're of no further use to "them," THEN "they" want us dead...
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taking the chip
will be voluntary. They'll probably dangle an offer you cannot refuse in front of your face in order to get you to take it - like "take the chip and we'll wipe away your debt".
But in the end, this is not about money - it's about power.
Voluntary????
I read that those not accepting will be beheaded.( for the namesake of christ) It may be voluntary at first ......but so are taxes
careful now...
: )
Yes. More power.
/Mike
Ron stated
yesterday that there would be a meeting Nov. 15 to discuss the change, and that the info may come out about it early. Listen to the interview Ron had with Alex Jones. It is on the Daily Paul home page.
Give Me Freedom
If Tyranny And Oppression Come To This Land, It Will Be In The
Guise Of Fighting A Foreign Enemy. James Madison
Ron Paul didn't mention a timeline but
he said things were moving very quickly now.
Does anyone have a prediction how long it will be before $$$ are replaced with mandatory chips??? Like, 2 years, 5 years, 10 or 20 years?
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Maybe
10-20 years. At least that's what I hope.
After all, we are talking about chipping what two hundred million in this country alone.
But then, if "They" succeed with their plan of reducing the world's population by 90%, it would make chipping those who are left easier and less time.
Population reduction is a whole other scary subject.
Here's an informative
site on a cashless society and subdermal chips. This is what I believe the financial crisis is all about and why Paulson insisted on the power being granted to him along with the $700B.
Once he or his successor are able to manipulate all the financial power to a few big banks. These banks will make all the rules..
I don't think we are headed for a new currency, but no currency at all.
Just chips.
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Could this be why silver and 1/10th gold coinage is no where to
be found? 'They', the bankers bought them all up so we can't have any, especially since Dr.Paul recommended that we replace fiat with coins.
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For me, this book gave the best understanding! Chapter six "Building the New World Order" I urge everyone who hasnt read it yet to read it as soon as possible!
beginning of this chapter:
"The game called bailout reexamined and shown to be far more than merely a means of getting taxpayers to foot the cost of bad loans; the final play revealed as the merger of all nations into world government..."
This book lays out the strategy of the CFR play by play and so far everyone is following script!!
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This book sounds like it was just written but...
It was finished in 1994!
isn't it obvious?
yes. the central banks are making a run on a global currency
Did you listen to the Ron Paul interview
with Alex Jones? I think it's about collapsing the world monetary systems to justify a world currency. They will probably force us into having a chip.
That's what I think.
It's all leading to everyone being chipped. I believe this crisis is about eliminating the small banks and putting the financial power in this country under the contol of the big banks.
Once "They" have control,"They" will make the rules...one of them I believe will be having everyone in this country and maybe the world...CHIPPED/
Then, "They" will have complete control of every aspect of a person's life.
"They" will know how much you make, how much you spend and where you spend it. They will know everything about you...privacy, forget it, There will no longer be any privacy once you are chipped. And forget about owning guns. Without ammo they are useless. If you buy ammo, if it's still available, "They" will know it.
And you will more than likely be receiving a visit to confiscate your gun(s).
Based on your purchases "They" will almost be able to know what you are thinking.
Very scary, isn't it? This is where I think we are headed...not a new currency, but no currency at all, just imbeded chips.
They have also prepared us for this
by spreading a misinterpretation of the bible - to say that this is an inevitable fulfillment of bible prophecy, and don't worry - you're getting raptured soon anyway.
So the church is impotent against these threats, against zionism, against world governmen, etc.
Has anyone considered
that the rapture will be nothing more then a cover to account for all the missing people who wil be gathered up and thrown in FEMA camps never to be seen again?
no
that's ridiculous!
I can hear it now
"We'll wipe away all your debt if you take the chip".
Yes,
it is very scary. And hard to know how to prepare. We have been preparing for a while now for an economic collapse. But how do you prepare for a "new world order"? And the scary thing to me is - what will they do to make us readily go along with all of it? Or is it going to be a complete collapse of the dollar? These are very scary times. Hard to keep focused on the day to day things.
hmmm,
bump